Replied: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 21:47:06 -0500 Replied: "John Yin" Replied: "alex ho" Return-Path: johnyin@anabas.com Return-Path: Delivered-To: fox@csit.fsu.edu Received: from janus.hosting4u.net (janus.hosting4u.net [209.15.2.37]) by mailer.csit.fsu.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 6927F23A02 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:58:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 25575 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2000 00:58:14 -0000 Received: from capricornus.hosting4u.net (HELO anabas.com) (209.15.2.36) by mail-gate.hosting4u.net with SMTP; 22 Nov 2000 00:58:14 -0000 Received: from anabas12000 ([216.59.8.147]) by anabas.com ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:58:11 -0600 From: "John Yin" To: , "Alex Ho" Subject: RE: PDF vs SVG Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:02:26 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C053DC.D32A7720" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <3A1B1434.2020102@csit.fsu.edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C053DC.D32A7720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is a good point. I'll see if we have enough time to convert the whiteboard to this backend. There is a practical constraint on what Java version we use. All IE & Netscape 4.0+ comes with a VM that supports JDK 1.1.8 and we can use the Swing 1.1 libraries. This will reduce our minimum download to something like 400K. Unfortunately, neither of these version support Graphics2D. If we decide to use the Java 2 Plugin which does support all Java 2 features, then the user will have to take a 5MB download hit minimum. John Yin VP Engineering Anabas, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Geoffrey Fox [mailto:fox@csit.fsu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 4:33 PM To: Alex Ho Cc: Anabas Subject: Re: PDF vs SVG SVG is an excellent technology for us to use. Our whiteboard should use this to save its results (also our annotation tool?) If we were doing science with Anabas, we should use MathML and Roy Williams XSIL (for scientific data) in 2D there is also Java2D, in 3D there is X3D Java3D and VTK Alex Ho wrote: is the W3C SVG a good candidate for Anabas' vector graphics representation? http://sis.cmis.csiro.au/svg/ The CSIRO SVG Toolkit is a collection of utilities that do various things with Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) files. SVG is a language for describing two-dimensional graphics in XML. It is currently being developed by the World Wide Web Consortium - for more information consult the SVG page at the W3C. About the SVG Toolkit The SVG Toolkit contains an SVG viewer, an implementation of the SVG DOM (conforming to Document Object Model Level 2 ) and a utility for rendering an SVG document into various image formats. It is written in Java and requires Java 1.2 or higher (we develop using 1.3). The toolkit is open-source and therefore freely available. The open-source license that applies to the toolkit is based on the Apache license. Any comments on the licensing are welcome (svg@cmis.csiro.au) ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C053DC.D32A7720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That=20 is a good point.  I'll see if we have enough time to convert the = whiteboard=20 to this backend.
 
There=20 is a practical constraint on what Java version we use.  All IE = &=20 Netscape 4.0+ comes with a VM that supports JDK 1.1.8 and we can use the = Swing=20 1.1 libraries.  This will reduce our minimum download to something = like=20 400K.  Unfortunately, neither of these version support=20 Graphics2D.
 
If we=20 decide to use the Java 2 Plugin which does support all Java 2 features, = then the=20 user will have to take a 5MB download hit minimum.
 

John Yin
VP Engineering
Anabas, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Fox=20 [mailto:fox@csit.fsu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 = 4:33=20 PM
To: Alex Ho
Cc: Anabas
Subject: Re: = PDF vs=20 SVG

SVG  is an excellent technology for us to = use.=20 Our whiteboard should use this to save its results
(also our = annotation=20 tool?)
If we were doing science with Anabas, we should use MathML = and Roy=20 Williams XSIL (for scientific data)

in 2D there is also Java2D, = in 3D=20 there is X3D Java3D and VTK

Alex Ho wrote:

is the W3C SVG a good candidate for Anabas' vector graphics=20 representation?

http://sis.cmis.csiro.au/svg/<= /P>

The CSIRO SVG Toolkit is a collection of utilities that do = various things=20 with Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) files. SVG is a language for = describing=20 two-dimensional graphics in XML. It is=20 currently being developed by the World Wide Web=20 Consortium - for more information consult the SVG page at the W3C. =

About the SVG Toolkit

The SVG Toolkit contains an SVG viewer, an implementation of the = SVG DOM=20 (conforming to Document Object=20 Model Level 2 ) and a utility for rendering an SVG document into = various=20 image formats. It is written in Java and requires Java 1.2 or higher = (we=20 develop using 1.3).

The toolkit is open-source and therefore freely available. The open-source = license that=20 applies to the toolkit is based on the Apache license. Any = comments on=20 the licensing are welcome (svg@cmis.csiro.au)=20


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