3 major players
biology -- Davis area of excellence
MPS -- Math/ Physical Sciences
Engineering -- CS Mechanical etc.

Center -- all in another department
Department -- average 50% appts
	but could be any fraction
	need for stability

As computational science "name" not good
	can do in existing departments

Undergraduate MPS Computing need
	minor?
	too much courses!
	physics chemistry get together to do
	

Bioinformatics
	exists

Experimental Physicists don't take EE

Support etc negotiable
	"cluster"
Space central

graduate first
	can wait 3 years

technology for large classes

Walters has good looking technology like Tango
	Medical Informatics

statistics math CS CE in core

bruno in charge IT
	Well respected by administration
	Poor Davis to outside world connection
	need to connection to wonderful wire running a mile away

CIPIC Bad name -- change to Center for Data Analysis and Visualization

Computer Science
	worried by current process
	I was first candidate they talked to
	claim lots of section of undergraduate courses but
		make them very hard
		not optimized for MPS students
	they offer CS degree in both Engineering and MPS

1/3 core 2/3 others -- 20 (2 * 50% center load)
	information technology as well as simulation

Engineering paid more than science
	30% difference at start career