These exist from both a computer science and user point of view
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Grande applications are very complex but field is small (1% or so of total computing world)
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It is a much larger fraction of academic computation
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The field needs Java as it provides a wonderful distributed computing software infrastructure on which to build applications and tools
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e.g. RMI JINI etc can enable metacomputing?
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Users can enjoy Java program development environment
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Not clear that Java needs the field and so Grande field needs to be humble and persuasive in its requests
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Currently the Grande field is intrigued but skeptical due to poor Java performance
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Java community doing battle in commercially critical areas
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Need to bring communities together
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