Subject: RE: KDI References -- Please give me 3-6 citations Resent-Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:06:32 -0400 Resent-From: Geoffrey Fox Resent-To: p_gcf@boss.npac.syr.edu Date: 09 May 99 08:56:42 -0500 From: "David Rose" To: gcf RE: KDI References -- Please give me 3-6 c 5/9/99 I am happy to send references. For the most part I don't see my role to comment on the overall document so far. I do think it would be a good idea, nonetheless, to get a good editor to attack it. Several reviewers noted the high jargon quotient of the preliminary proposal and this draft retains that quality. I suspect, however, that what they mean is that this reads like a document that is more intended to "show off" technical expertise than to communicate clearly. For some readers this style will intimidate them and they will tend to assume you know what you are doing. For other, more confident, readers this style will merely be annoying and they may react harshly. In the same vein, it reads like a document written by experts more in love with the technology than with the client. Somehow the individual with disabilities needs to come more to the front of the proposal - for example, providing a clear description or anecdote of the problem being addressed (not technical but human) and a clear description of the solution (showing, from the view of the individual, what success would look like). I have a couple questions. CAST role: I'm not completely sure of our role, and particularly the overlap with Do-It. We can't do real outcome research for 50k, so I assume that we are mostly providing formative evaluation and providing educational credibility. Is our role any different than Do-IT other than the population addressed? The population addressed: have the PI's discussed a clear definition of the intended subjects for the project? I would like to be responsive to the wishes of the central PI's. We should be careful, however, not to insult individuals with disabilities by being cavalier and inarticulate about the complexities involved. I will send a page or so about how we could conduct some formative evaluation of this - if the population is not better defined I will do my best and you can alter as needed. More later. I'm also mostly on the road and overwhelmed by the crush at the end of the term. Wish I had more time. Looks like a great big idea and very exciting! David Geoffrey Fox wrote: >on KDI activities in your area >I would be grateful if I could get these by midnight tuesday >These are presumably best if to key outside people but 1 or 2 of your gems also >valuable >Thanks > >Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu >Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science >Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > From gcf@boss.npac.syr.edu Sun May 09 07:43:01 1999 > Received: by mail.cast.org from localhost > (router,QMProSrv V2.6); Sun, 09 May 1999 07:43:01 -0400 > Received: by mail.cast.org from boss.npac.syr.edu > (128.230.117.20::mail daemon; unverified,QMProSrv V2.6); Sun, 09 May 1999 >07:43:01 -0400 > Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu >(950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA14141 for ; Sun, 9 >May 1999 07:41:43 -0400 > Message-Id: <199905091141.HAA14141@boss.npac.syr.edu> > X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use >HELO protocol > Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu > To: "David Rose" > Subject: KDI References -- Please give me 3-6 citations > Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 07:41:42 -0400 > From: Geoffrey Fox >