Reply-to: Geoffrey Fox To: Tony Hey Subject: Is this same as Frederica contact? Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:45:06 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox which i just forwarded (I replied to your mail and due to UK Eudora feature I sent it to Miguel Marquina by mistake Hope OK!) Geoffrey Fox gcf@indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 Phones Cell 315-254-6387 Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977 CS 8128553788 ------- Forwarded Message Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 22:45:44 +0100 From: Tony Hey To: "'Miguel Marquina '" cc: Tony Hey , "'gcf@indiana.edu'" Subject: RE: CERN Series on popularising GRID This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C27626.8B94BA10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Miguel I am interested in doing such a course - but would need to discuss the details! Like the series I did with Douglas Ross on Quantum Computing I would probably want to do a double act with someone like Geoffrey Fox (also an ex Particle Physicist) I am also wondering about something more ambitious - a sort of dual track course. 5 elementary lectures in the morning and 5 more detailed lectures in the afternoon. Geoffrey and I could certainly do the 5 elementary ones but I would want to co-opt a couple of other speakers to address a couple of topics in more depth. The elementary course could have an opening lecture by me, setting the scene and scope of the Grid vision. Then Geoffrey Fox with one lecture on realities today, one on Web Services and one on the Open Grid Services Architecture. Finished by me with one lecture wrapping things up and summarizing where we have got to. The advanced strand could look at things such as databases and data federation, metadata and ontologies and perhaps a description of some projects that are using/needing such technology. Just some ideas at the moment - what do you think? Best wishes Tony - -----Original Message----- From: Miguel Marquina To: Tony Hey Sent: 15/10/2002 10:26 Subject: CERN Series on popularising GRID Hello Tony, I am very pleased to have another occasion to talk to you, I wish there were more. A while ago I proposed the CERN Academic Training Committee to run a series of talks on the GRID. Specifically at an educational level aiming to demistify the concept and technology for those knowing nothing/little about it. To me, this is a required step to build "external" synergy around projects of the nature we are addressing nowadays. The success of the GRID is largely a sociological challenge: we do know the basics of the technology, but we are not used to collaborative work at such scale, not even the physicists (the LHC collaborations are showing regular communication "flaws" following the fragmentation of their communities; similar patterns as the increase of regionalistic feelings in EU; interesting). Ops sorry, to the point. So I thought again of you. Following your different press articles/interviews I share your approach to dissemination and raising of awareness to the GRID. I wonder if you could afford to lecture the series yourself (3 to 5 one-hour talks, any time in the first half of 2003). Or if it cannot be, would you propose somebody else known to you for his pedagogical skills (short of having you cloned :-) ) Let me know. Regardless of having this occasion or not I'll be more than pleased to kidnap you for a coffee at your next visit, your agenda allowing. Greetings, Miguel - ------_=_NextPart_001_01C27626.8B94BA10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: CERN Series on popularising GRID

 
Miguel

I am interested in doing such a course - but would = need to discuss the details! Like the series I did with Douglas Ross on = Quantum Computing I would probably want to do a double act with someone = like Geoffrey Fox (also an ex Particle Physicist)

I am also wondering about something more ambitious - = a sort of dual track course. 5 elementary lectures in the morning and 5 = more detailed lectures in the afternoon. Geoffrey and I could certainly = do the 5 elementary ones but I would want to co-opt a couple of other = speakers to address a couple of topics in more depth.

The elementary course could have an opening lecture = by me, setting the scene and scope of the Grid vision. Then Geoffrey = Fox with one lecture on realities today, one on Web Services and one on = the Open Grid Services Architecture. Finished by me with one lecture = wrapping things up and summarizing where we have got to.

The advanced strand could look at things such as = databases and data federation, metadata and ontologies and perhaps a = description of some projects that are using/needing such technology. =

Just some ideas at the moment - what do you = think?

Best wishes

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Marquina
To: Tony Hey
Sent: 15/10/2002 10:26
Subject: CERN Series on popularising GRID

Hello Tony,
I am very pleased to have another occasion to talk = to you, I wish there
were more.
A while ago I proposed the CERN Academic Training = Committee to run a
series
of talks on the GRID. Specifically at an educational = level aiming to
demistify
the concept and technology for those knowing = nothing/little about it.

To me, this is a required step to build = "external" synergy around
projects
of the nature we are addressing nowadays. The = success of the GRID is
largely a sociological challenge: we do know the = basics of the
technology,
but we are not used to collaborative work at such = scale, not even the
physicists (the LHC collaborations are showing = regular communication
"flaws" following the fragmentation of = their communities; similar
patterns
as the increase of regionalistic feelings in EU; = interesting).

Ops sorry, to the point. So I thought again of you. = Following your
different press articles/interviews I share your = approach to
dissemination
and raising of awareness to the GRID.

I wonder if you could afford to lecture the series = yourself (3 to 5
one-hour talks, any time in the first half of 2003). = Or if it cannot be,
would you propose somebody else known to you for his = pedagogical skills
(short of having you cloned :-) )

Let me know. Regardless of having this occasion or = not I'll be more than
pleased to kidnap you for a coffee at your next = visit, your agenda
allowing.
Greetings, Miguel

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