From nobody@nowhere Mon Jun 18 16:01:01 2007 Replied: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 13:47:10 -0500 Replied: "Curtis, Brie (Contractor)" Return-Path: CurtisB@atsc.army.mil Delivery-Date: Fri Jun 7 12:50:15 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailer.csit.fsu.edu (mailer.csit.fsu.edu [144.174.128.142]) by grids.ucs.indiana.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g57HoEu08772 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:50:15 -0500 (EST) Received: by mailer.csit.fsu.edu (Postfix) id 4EE5023A27; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Delivered-To: fox@csit.fsu.edu Received: from mail.cs.fsu.edu (mail.cs.fsu.edu [128.186.121.245]) by mailer.csit.fsu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12CA423A1B for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atscexchange.atsc.army.mil (emh22.atsc.army.mil [155.217.20.55]) by mail.cs.fsu.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g57HpFf07127 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:51:15 -0400 Received: by atscexchange.atsc.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:34:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Curtis, Brie (Contractor)" To: "'gcf@cs.fsu.edu'" Subject: Question re Portals Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 13:34:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C20E49.9F6D3110" Content-Length: 4541 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20E49.9F6D3110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mr. Fox: I have read several your articles and understand your familiarity with Distance Learning and the SCORM industry standard for interoperability with Learning Management Systems and reuse of learning objects. Distance Learning is usually presented as being playable mostly from the Web. How about the person/active duty military who does not have internet access? Presently, the Army is requiring two versions of every course: one SCORM compliant version to be played from the LMS and a nonSCORM version that will play directly from a CDROM. However, the data usually captured in the LMS is lost when the soldier takes the course using the CDROM version. I am working on a contract with the USArmy analyzing whether it is possible to launch SCORM compliant courseware from a CDROM while capturing data normally transmitted to a Learning Management System and to sync up later with the LMS. This process would allow soldiers who do not have internet access or sufficient infrastructure to take SCORM compliant courses without providing funds for another version to be developed. In other words, the Army wants to utilize the SCORM compliant web based course to be copied to the CDROM along with supporting programs that would enable the course to be played from the CDROM. Will the proposed portals described in your research encompass an interface for launching such courseware? Would you direct me to other resources for more information? Thanks for your time, Brie Curtis Web Programmer Computer Sciences Corporation Contractor for Army Training Support Center Ft. Eustis, VA 757-878-4592 curtisb@atsc.army.mil ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20E49.9F6D3110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Question re Portals

Mr. Fox: I have read several your = articles and understand your familiarity with Distance Learning and the = SCORM industry standard for interoperability with Learning Management = Systems and reuse of learning objects.  Distance Learning is = usually presented as being playable mostly from the Web.  =

How about the person/active duty = military who does not have internet access?  Presently, the Army = is requiring two versions of every course: one SCORM compliant version = to be played from the LMS and a nonSCORM version that will play = directly from a CDROM.  However, the data usually captured in the = LMS is lost when the soldier takes the course using the CDROM = version.

I am working on a contract with the = USArmy analyzing whether it is possible to launch SCORM compliant = courseware from a CDROM while capturing data normally transmitted to a = Learning Management System and to sync up later with the LMS. This = process would allow soldiers who do not have internet access or = sufficient infrastructure to take SCORM compliant courses without = providing funds for another version to be developed. In other words, = the Army wants to utilize the SCORM compliant web based course to be = copied to the CDROM along with supporting programs that would enable = the course to be played from the CDROM.

Will the proposed portals described in = your research encompass an interface for launching such = courseware?  Would you direct me to other resources for more = information?

Thanks for your time,
Brie Curtis
Web Programmer
Computer Sciences Corporation
Contractor for Army Training Support = Center
Ft. Eustis, VA 
757-878-4592
curtisb@atsc.army.mil

------_=_NextPart_001_01C20E49.9F6D3110-- From nobody@nowhere Mon Jun 18 16:01:01 2007 Replied: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:32:09 -0500 Replied: "Curtis, Brie (Contractor)" Return-Path: CurtisB@atsc.army.mil Delivery-Date: Fri Jun 7 14:48:28 2002 Return-Path: Received: from atscexchange.atsc.army.mil (emh22.atsc.army.mil [155.217.20.55]) by grids.ucs.indiana.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g57JmRu10545 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 14:48:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by atscexchange.atsc.army.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:49:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Curtis, Brie (Contractor)" To: "'Geoffrey Fox'" Subject: RE: Question re Portals Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:49:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C20E5C.702ECA90" Content-Length: 5158 This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20E5C.702ECA90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for a quick reply. Here are my thoughts on the possible process: SCORM courses would be on the LMS Server but with no access by students. Delivery could be CDROM or student download copy of course from ftp server. This "supporting program" would read the required Manifest xml file, display the course map and have links to launch pages in the browser. Run time commands sent to the LMS would have to be captured and the data stored locally, hard drive or A drive if capability is needed to transfer the information to another workstation. When the workstation logs onto the Internet, need capability to initiate synchronization process to transfer data to the correct student name and Learning Object in the LMS. Security issues of writing to the local machine are a problem as well as encryption of data and synchronizing with the LMS. The Army wants to know if there is software that already exists or that can be modified. If none exists, then it would have to be developed. The Army wants an immediate solution for the temporary LMS (Click2Learn's Aspen LMS) and long term solution for the yet to be developed final LMS. Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated. Brie Curtis -----Original Message----- From: Geoffrey Fox [mailto:gcf@grids.ucs.indiana.edu] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:47 PM To: Curtis, Brie (Contractor) Subject: Re: Question re Portals I would see many SCORM systems can be launched in way you want. Often I give demos on laptop demos as server side can be instantiated There are of course difficult licensing issues and some systems way require "heavy-weight" servers (like LOtus Notes or Oracle) Tell me issues that concern you Geoffrey Fox gcf@indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 Phones Cell 315-254-6387 Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977 CS 8128553788 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C20E5C.702ECA90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Question re Portals

Thanks for a quick reply.

Here are my thoughts on the possible process:
SCORM courses would be on the LMS Server but with no = access by students.
Delivery could be CDROM or student download copy of = course from ftp server.
This "supporting program" would read the = required Manifest xml file, display the course map and have links to = launch pages in the browser. 

Run time commands sent to the LMS would have to be = captured and the data stored locally, hard drive or A drive if = capability is needed to transfer the information to another = workstation.

When the workstation logs onto the Internet, need = capability to initiate synchronization process to transfer data to the = correct student name and Learning Object in the LMS.

Security issues of writing to the local machine are a = problem as well as encryption of data and synchronizing with the = LMS.

The Army wants to know if there is software that = already exists or that can be modified. If none exists, then it would = have to be developed.  The Army wants an immediate solution for = the temporary LMS (Click2Learn's Aspen LMS) and long term solution for = the yet to be developed final LMS.

Any help you can give me will be greatly = appreciated.
Brie Curtis



-----Original Message-----
From: Geoffrey Fox [mailto:gcf@grids.ucs.indiana.e= du]
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:47 PM
To: Curtis, Brie (Contractor)
Subject: Re: Question re Portals


I would see many SCORM systems can be launched in way = you want.
Often I give demos on laptop demos as server side = can
be instantiated
There are of course difficult licensing issues and = some systems way
require "heavy-weight" servers (like LOtus = Notes or Oracle)
 
Tell me issues that concern you

 Geoffrey Fox  gcf@indiana.edu FAX = 8128567972
 Phones Cell 315-254-6387 Home 8123239196 Lab = 8128567977 CS 8128553788

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