Subject: CCPE Portal C546 From: "Mary Thomas" Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:17:58 -0700 To: "Geoffrey Fox" X-UIDL: 9309d861e2190000 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Received: by mailer.csit.fsu.edu (mbox gcfpc) (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.31 1998/05/13) Sun Oct 14 18:03:46 2001) X-From_: fox@mailer.csit.fsu.edu Sun Oct 14 18:03:24 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gcfpc@csit.fsu.edu Received: from dirac.csit.fsu.edu (dirac.csit.fsu.edu [144.174.128.44]) by mailer.csit.fsu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C56723A07 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:03:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by dirac.csit.fsu.edu (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7) id SAA27478; Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-Id: <200110142203.SAA27478@dirac.csit.fsu.edu> Delivered-To: fox@csit.fsu.edu Received: from mask.uits.indiana.edu (mask.uits.indiana.edu [129.79.6.184]) by mailer.csit.fsu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DDFB23A17 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 21:18:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay.sdsc.edu (relay.sdsc.edu [132.249.20.66]) by mask.uits.indiana.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/IUPO) with ESMTP id f8T1FvM08788 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:15:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from mthomastp (dhcp-65-102.sdsc.edu [132.249.65.102]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by relay.sdsc.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1/SDSCmx-6) with ESMTP id f8T1I4213763 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EXP1024-RC4-SHA (56 bits) verified NO) for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:18:06 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: mthomas@sdsc.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-To: Geoffrey Fox Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:03:23 -0400 Resent-From: Geoffrey Fox REFEREE'S REPORT Concurrency and Computation:Practice and Experience ********** C: Paper and Referee Metadata Paper Number C546 Date: 9/28/01 Paper Title: MyPYTHIA: A Recommendation Portal for Scientific Software and Services Author(s):E. Houstis et al Referee: Steve Mock, Mary Thomas Address: mthomas@sdsc.edu 9500 Gilman Drive, MC-0505, La Jolla, Ca 92093-0505 Referee Recommendations. Please indicate overall recommendations here, and details in following sections. reject - publish in a different journal or a data grid edition of this one. D: Referee Comments (For Editor Only) ------------------------------------ This work seems great, but should be submitted to another journal, one about data mining instead of portals or grid portals. The word grid is hardly mentioned in the discussion of this paper. I am not qualified to judge a data mining paper, however. Geoffrey - This paper is a reject. Steve read it, but I have reviewed his reasons and concur. The work is relevant, but to a data mining community, and perhaps the data community. They have not done anything distributed that we could tell. E: Referee Comments (For Author and Editor) ------------------------------ This paper does not speak to the pratical experiences in building the MyPYTHIA web portal or grid computing. It spends far too much of its time describing in detail the background science of the underlying technologies that the portal is supposed to be abstracting. Little mention of Grid technologies other than light reference to some data projects. The authenticaion is only mentioned when it is mentioned that a user needs to get a username and password. This paper does not provide what the journal asked for, so it does not appear to be a Grid project. There is no dicusssion of what resources are used or where the computational work is performed. F: Presentation Changes see below. MORE DETAILED COMMENTS FROM READERS: A.Presentation grade=1 +some nice images of the UI. +language and grammar are good. (only minor errors there) -no examples of the input and the output, I have no grasp of how this portal works at all. It talks in great detail about the science behind the cases covered by the portal, but there's no clear example of user input and output received through this portal. For example, where and on what are the pattern extraction algorithms being run? Are they computationally intensive? Do you execute them on the grid, or are they just run on the webserver? It seems like the separate modules of this system are described well, but no effort was made into explaining how they integrate. -no architechure layout. I think this paper would benefit greatly from an architechture diagram. B.Competence grade=2/5 +portal seems competently put together +science behind the portal seems competent +many pieces of the technology are explained in great detail -the design of the portal is not really covered, and the bits that are covered are scattered throughout the paper. ** Contribution (relevant to special issue) grade=1/5 +seems like a good recommendation system for data +nice to have this in a portal -grid??????? there appears to be no grid anything in this system -it looks like a big database with web page to access it. -no discussion of the practical experieces of setting this. -no discussion of issues involved, barriers overcome, problems still left. -I think this paper would be fine if it were not submitted to this particular journal. ** Originality grade=2/5 -there are web pages which do database lookups. this is not original in terms of the pratical experience of building new technology at all. using php to do database queries just isn't that original. +however, I don't know of any portals which do exactly the science being done here. the software system, PYTHIA, is the original contribution. ** Strengths +sounds like it runs...although this is not stated anywhere in the paper. +the separate components of MyPYTHIA are explained well. +the underlying science apart from the portal is thoroughly described. +good descriptions of the representations required by MyPYTHIA for generating inference data (could really really use a simple example though!) +it has very lengthy discussions on several case studies +it shows in great detail the science behind the MyPYTHIA web system. +has nice snapshots of GUI. .