From jopax@juno.com Wed Jan 7 15:58:13 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14017; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:57:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from deep.nfg.nl (major@deep.nfg.nl [194.109.9.209]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA00442; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from major@localhost) by deep.nfg.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00845 for listeeworld-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:38:53 +0100 Received: from m1.boston.juno.com (m1.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.199]) by deep.nfg.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00842 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:38:49 +0100 Received: (from jopax@juno.com) by m1.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RJH02023; Wed, 07 Jan 1998 17:31:52 EST To: TrusteeOne@aol.com Cc: listEEworld@nfg.nl Subject: Re: A Green New Year Message-ID: <19980107.151257.12503.4.jopax@juno.com> References: X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-257 From: jopax@juno.com (John Owen) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 17:31:52 EST Sender: owner-listeeworld@nfg.nl Precedence: bulk X-UIDL: c1eb9beb81f54142d0c985edf73926f8 Status: RO X-Status: JOHN OWEN PO BOX 53521 LOS ANGELES, CA 90053 213 223 2966 jopax@juno.com LA NO NUKES ACTION GROUP Shut Down the Nevada Test Site Save Ward Valley On Fri, 2 Jan 1998 12:35:00 EST TrusteeOne writes: >NEW YEAR OPPORTUNITY > > STATE OF THE EARTH: >January 1, >1998 > > By John >McConnell >The Founder of Earth Day > > * * * * * * >* * * * >* * * * > Crisis >-- >Opportunity > A New Vision >for the >New Year > Where There is Vision, >The >People Prosper > > "Where There is No >Vision, The >People Perish" > > >(The Bible) > "Oh Wretched >Mortals, Open >Your Eyes" > > >(Leonardo de Vinci) > >As we approach a new millennium there is a vital need to consider what >we now >know about the state of people and planet. What are the dangers and >opportunities we face? Is it possible to halt the deterioration of >human >values and the hate, fear, violence and confusion affecting so many >lives -- >and threatening the collapse of civilization? > >Let us begin by looking at what the age of Space has revealed about >our >planet. > >Scientists tell us we have an amazing planet with land, water, >minerals and a >great variety of organic life. With our present technology a >concerted effort >by altruistic people (who are in the majority) could quickly eliminate >poverty, illiteracy, pollution and crime. > >All that is needed is for people of good will to agree on and pursue >the >agenda that will best rejuvenate Earth. > >While hundreds of organizations and individuals are engaged in solving >human >problems, there is one venture that embraces and encourages them all. >That is >Earth Day and its Earth Trustee agenda. > >Here is the agenda that can appeal to the most people and do the most >good. >Also, it can tap the power of faith and love that comes from a >person's >religious faith. > >EARTH TRUSTEE AGENDA > >"LET EVERY PERSON AND EVERY INSTITUTION NOW THINK AND ACT AS A >RESPONSIBLE >TRUSTEE OF EARTH, SEEKING CHOICES IN ECOLOGY, ECONOMICS AND ETHICS >THAT WILL >PROVIDE A SUSTAINABLE FUTURE, ELIMINATE POLLUTION, POVERTY AND >VIOLENCE, >AWAKEN THE WONDER OF LIFE AND FOSTER PEACEFUL PROGRESS IN THE HUMAN >ADVENTURE." > >To headline and feature progress around the world all projects that >fit into >this description should be recognized as Earth Trustee projects or >efforts. >Then they can document their actions and solutions on Earth Trustee >web sites >and message boards. To further this effort through simultaneous >global >attention, plan now to celebrate Earth Day on March 20. All can then >join in >silent prayer and heartfelt dedication when the United Nations Peace >Bell is >rung on Earth Day at the moment Spring begins: Friday, March 20, at >2:55 p.m. >New York time. > >Here is an event that given prime attention could turn the world right >side >up! > >Why has it been ignored? > >People are constantly swayed by the emotions mass media engender. Tap >the >emotions and you sell more papers or TV commercials. The easiest way >to do >this is with violence. Now we are so conditioned to think of news as >"the >latest violence," that newscasters choose the worst violence as the >biggest >story. > >Nothing is in context. Right now the whole human family is faced with >extermination if hate and the use of germ, chemical and atomic weapons >get out >of hand. We must now initiate a Battle to Save Planet Earth. Not by >military >might, but by a vision that generates understanding and actions all >can >support. The enemy is not any people, but the ideas, emotions and >attitudes >that cause conflict. > >Where are the enemies in this battle? They are in the minds of all >those who >blindly put power for profit first. Let's start with the New York >Times. >(The New York Times is just one example of blindness today in places >of >power.) > >Had the New York Times based the importance of news on its relevance >to >achieving Earth Trustee goals -- and winning the Battle for Earth, >headlines >for the wonderful solutions that individuals and groups around the >world are >demonstrating, could have changed the global state of mind from Earth >Kill to >Earth Care. > >Had they headlined the ringing of the United Nations Peace Bell by an >Arab >child and Jewish child in 1994 -- and later by Shimon Perez, plus the >1995 >occasion when Yasir Arafat added his signature to the original Earth >Day >Proclamation and expressed support for the Earth Trustee agenda, there >might >now be peace and prosperity in Palestine. > >Had the New York Times also published "The Earth Magna Charta" with >its Earth >Trustee agenda and supported its thesis -- peaceful progress would now >be >spreading around the world. > >The Earth Magna Charta and its Earth Trustee agenda can bring broad >consensus >and leave room for differences in details -- thereby creating a sense >of >community and awareness of common goals. > >Cyberspace: > >The new information age -- with its amazing Internet access -- now >brings >information from around the world on every conceivable subject. Here >is a new >opportunity for people of modest means to learn and help cure our >global >blindness. The person who wonders "What's life all about?" can learn >about >the great advance of science in its understanding of the Cosmos. On >Internet >we see reports from scientists that in the millions of stars one of >them is >800 times larger than our entire solar system. The knowledge we have >gained >in this past year again raises the eternal question, "Why?" > >Scholars remind us there cannot be an effect without a cause, a >creation >without a creator. But then who created the creator? > >The ultimate questions only lead to mystery. It is interesting to >note that >the scientists and scholars who know the most are the most aware of >how little >they know. > >In addition to the mysteries of the physical world there are the >mysteries of >the mind. Psychic phenomena abounds around the world, but data is >never >concrete enough for scientists or other objective minds to agree on an >explanation. Apparitions, out of body experiences, flying saucers and >communication with "the other side" (people who have died), may be >hallucinations. > >On the other hand in the past year we have seen solid support for the >value of >faith in praying for the sick. There are documented miracles and >evidence >that on the average, people who are prayed for get better sooner than >those >who are not prayed for. > >The one thing most people can now agree on is the benefit of real love >in >their life. Life takes on meaning when you love and are loved. > >Satisfaction also comes from opportunities to be creative. Some >believe God >created human beings in order that they might participate in extending >creation. Probably everyone at some time has a thought or idea that >no one >else ever had. Music, art, theater, architecture, numerous inventions >and >events, provide examples of creation. > >The State of Earth and What to Do About It. > >While there is little agreement about life after death, we can agree >that we >appreciate the practice of ethical values that religious faith often >brings. >Let everyone now prove the value of their creed by Earth Trustee >deeds. >Vigorous, creative actions now can change the destructive systems and >destructive conduct that have plagued human history. Let's do all we >can, by >example and persuasion, to use the Earth Trustee vision and agenda for >our >planet's rejuvenation. > > > >888 > >Earth Magna Charta: > >--------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from this list send \'unsubscribe listeeworld\' >to majordomo@nfg.nl. Ed Elkin >--------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list send \'unsubscribe listeeworld\' to majordomo@nfg.nl. Ed Elkin --------------------------------------------------------- From dave@sparky.med.ecu.edu Wed Jan 7 18:39:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22589 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:32:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from reggae.ncren.net (reggae.ncren.net [128.109.131.3]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA21713 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:32:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparky.med.ecu.edu (sparky.med.ecu.edu [150.216.193.16]) by reggae.ncren.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA06627 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:32:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by sparky.med.ecu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18272; Wed, 7 Jan 98 20:28:52 EST Date: Wed, 7 Jan 98 20:28:52 EST From: dave@sparky.med.ecu.edu (David Balch) Message-Id: <9801080128.AA18272@sparky.med.ecu.edu> To: davew@well.com Subject: da scrip X-UIDL: 4a8e10c227afc0163efd00faa04bb1fe Status: RO X-Status: A You are right. There is clearly an opportunity shaping up. We need a physician practice to turn into cyber docs. After just having a similar discussion with Cedars in LA, I know the CA docs are eager....but definitely have an inflated value of their services. Recent discussions with them as we put them with the aussies re: asian TM consults...their prices were plum outta site! It is conceivable, and I have already been running the simulations, that I could peal off a piece of our prison contract for store and forward consultations to some group of docs. We are backed up seriously in our derm consults. However the going rate is $60/consult. While no one would see this as a lucrative opportunity, it could be a good way to build a new model. 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Free for all trading companies and individuals. http://www.sinotrade.net /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If you wish to be removed from this advertiser's future mailings, please reply with the subject "Remove" and this software will automatically block you from their future mailings. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From pake@sparky.med.ecu.edu Thu Jan 8 08:38:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00645 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from reggae.ncren.net (reggae.ncren.net [128.109.131.3]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA00616 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparky.med.ecu.edu (sparky.med.ecu.edu [150.216.193.16]) by reggae.ncren.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA10209 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:33:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by sparky.med.ecu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19197; Thu, 8 Jan 98 11:30:00 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 11:30:00 EST From: pake@sparky.med.ecu.edu (Patrick Keller) Message-Id: <9801081630.AA19197@sparky.med.ecu.edu> To: davew@well.com Subject: Re: tngs X-UIDL: e7a4e0c2c4b890ed2309073b89843301 Status: RO X-Status: A I don't see anything on ej's page about the welch allen...What is your reference? pk From pake@sparky.med.ecu.edu Thu Jan 8 09:50:17 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02366 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:41:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from reggae.ncren.net (reggae.ncren.net [128.109.131.3]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA03088 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sparky.med.ecu.edu (sparky.med.ecu.edu [150.216.193.16]) by reggae.ncren.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA10237 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:41:18 -0500 (EST) Received: by sparky.med.ecu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19203; Thu, 8 Jan 98 11:37:56 EST Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 11:37:56 EST From: pake@sparky.med.ecu.edu (Patrick Keller) Message-Id: <9801081637.AA19203@sparky.med.ecu.edu> To: davew@well.com Subject: Re: tngs X-UIDL: 0d197dfc01e54a14e596301f64811101 Status: RO X-Status: A I also downloaded the newest neattools and do not see reference to welch allen there.... ???? pk From JulianB@carelinkmgmt.org Thu Jan 8 12:21:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13849 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:27:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.carelinkmgmt.org ([205.245.62.2] (may be forged)) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA19211 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtldfile1.carelinkmgmt.org (mtldfile1.carelinkmgmt.org [172.19.2.2]) by mail.carelinkmgmt.org (8.7.3 Version 1.1 Build 566/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA00144 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 1998 12:28:08 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Received: by mtldfile1.carelinkmgmt.org with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:21:54 -0500 Message-ID: <0195F8913D31D11183A00060974FC4EC0DB394@mtldfile1.carelinkmgmt.org> From: "Bailes, Julian" To: "'davew@well.com'" Cc: "DePew, Doug" Subject: devices Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:21:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-UIDL: 7bdcd4b0bb297682dcb61e8eada24f0e Status: RO X-Status: A Dave-hope you had a good holiday. Things continue to be dynamic here at CareLink, one of the latest being Doug DePew resigning to take a position in Atlanta. I'm still not quite sure of the impact of this. I just received the prelim report from our legal counsel, & if you would contact my sec'ty Kaye ( 407.667.9399x315), I would like her to fax you a copy. Then next week we should set up a conference call between you, Doug, & me to discuss, if you would let Kaye know a good time to sched the call. Thx jb From JulianB@carelinkmgmt.org Thu Jan 8 13:05:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24800 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:11:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.carelinkmgmt.org ([205.245.62.2] (may be forged)) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA03646 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:11:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtldfile1.carelinkmgmt.org (mtldfile1.carelinkmgmt.org [172.19.2.2]) by mail.carelinkmgmt.org (8.7.3 Version 1.1 Build 566/8.7.3) with ESMTP id NAA00016 for ; Thu, 08 Jan 1998 13:12:14 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Received: by mtldfile1.carelinkmgmt.org with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:06:01 -0500 Message-ID: <0195F8913D31D11183A00060974FC4EC0DB395@mtldfile1.carelinkmgmt.org> From: "Bailes, Julian" To: "'Dave Warner'" Subject: RE: devices Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:05:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain X-UIDL: bbbfc3049ef3feef96da91f3ec29fbfb Status: RO X-Status: A ok, good you got the lawyer report. I got your proposal, we will discuss w/ Doug during conf call. jb > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Warner [SMTP:davew@well.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 1998 12:56 PM > To: Bailes, Julian > Subject: Re: devices > > hi julian > > did you recieve the fax i sent before christmas with the proposal??? > > bummer about doug leaving (i think) > i will get the doc from your sec > > this is the nature of the beast and count me in for the long haul > > i really want to work with you on this project.. > keep the faith > > davew > > > On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Bailes, Julian wrote: > > > Dave-hope you had a good holiday. Things continue to be dynamic > here at > > CareLink, one of the latest being Doug DePew resigning to take a > > position in Atlanta. I'm still not quite sure of the impact of > this. I > > just received the prelim report from our legal counsel, & if you > would > > contact my sec'ty Kaye ( 407.667.9399x315), I would like her to fax > you > > a copy. Then next week we should set up a conference call between > you, > > Doug, & me to discuss, if you would let Kaye know a good time to > sched > > the call. Thx jb > > > > From mschmidt@npac.syr.edu Thu Jan 8 15:48:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13767 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:22:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de (sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.13.15]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA07994 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from dial0094.lrz-muenchen.de by sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de; Thu, 8 Jan 98 22:22:43 +0100 Message-ID: <34B53D29.1BCB2C1F@npac.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 21:55:05 +0100 From: Markus Schmidt Reply-To: mschmidt@npac.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: markus -> usa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: d587439444b025313645c2786a1b38c3 Status: RO X-Status: A Hi Dave, How are You doing ? I guess You are getting ready for mmvr 98; I would love to be in SD to check it out. Dave, I intend to visit my lab in Miami for a couple of days in March or April, and I would really like to see You and the rest of the gang. So, if I could help You and work with You for a bit, let me know. And - I just have to go to SD, see Janice,Salomo,Jeff,the zoo... go surfing, stunts with Ashley.... Facts: free time from mid of march til end of aprils to do's: 1 week Miami 2-3 weeks San Diego 2-3 weeks Syracuse and I am ready to work !!!! ( I learned Perl,SQL,UNIX,Java,.... Neurophysics..... hubris!!!) Best wishes hope to see You soon Markus From gilsdav@sc.llu.edu Thu Jan 8 14:55:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07028 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from sc.llu.edu (sc.llu.edu [151.112.2.25]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA07993 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:57:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sc.llu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA06950 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:55:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:55:54 -0800 Received: from unknown(151.112.15.31) by sc.llu.edu via smap (V1.3) id sma006931; Thu Jan 8 14:55:37 1998 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Dave Warner From: Dave Gilsdorf Subject: NeuroCosmology dialogue X-UIDL: acbc4ec4290f5da5b63593d14c9723b2 Status: RO X-Status: A Hey Dave, here is a short dialogue between Patrick Keller and myself regarding my last e-mail message regarging my "jabbering idiocy" at fractal canyons. We disagree on a couple of fronts and need a third party expert opinion. PK:It was a simple matter of the psi transform being out of phase with the phx >and phi transforms. Gils:Whereas I agree with the temporal disruption of the psi-phx mode lock, I do not agree on the part of the phi transform as phi stability within this domain was still maintained; you did not see my sub-atomic through whole organismal levels of complexity being compromised at any point - I did not de-materialize of plasmolize during the course of the event. PK:Incoherence as you put it was a temporary phenomenon >assosciated with recalibration through phx modulated psi-psi communication. Gils:I agree on this observable front. > PK:Jabbering is consistant with previous examples of Spainish Stallion >cultural responce. I do not believe Idiot fits since then the psi >function would lack the intensity to create such intense psi-phx waves. Gils:"Jabbering" could also be termed as glossalalia in which recalibration of the psi-phx modulator would be the closest explanation. Idiocy may be an infinite or mobius loop in the recalibration modulus and so could in fact be an observable phenomena as well. Let's leave out any cultural references as they seem at best a fuzzy explanatory. NeuroCosmo is Kool. gils From shp@bcm.tmc.edu Thu Jan 8 17:28:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15093 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:30:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from watson.bcm.tmc.edu (BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.2.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA18516 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 15:29:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ergo (ERGO.IT.BCM.TMC.EDU [128.249.98.222]) by watson.bcm.tmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA26248 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 17:29:44 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980108172822.00935860@watson.bcm.tmc.edu> X-Sender: shp@watson.bcm.tmc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 17:28:22 -0600 To: davew@well.com From: "Stephen H. Price" Subject: pulsar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: 889fe01f01b29f2ab10ba17346102fb6 Status: RO X-Status: Dave can you please tell me the step you took to setup pulsar.org. In particular the nonprofit corp stuff. Thanks pees, we are thinking of doing drmom.org -- Stephen H. Price "Aprendiz de todo, maestro de web." WebMaster, Senior Systems Engineer Baylor College of Medicine Houston, Texas From dolphinretreats@compuserve.com Fri Jan 9 00:11:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23291 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from hil-img-3.compuserve.com (hil-img-3.compuserve.com [149.174.177.133]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id VAA20647 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by hil-img-3.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.9) id AAA29376 for davew@well.com; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:11:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:11:09 -0500 From: Donna Brewer Subject: Re: IDATRA Board meeting Sender: Donna Brewer To: Dave Warner Message-ID: <199801090011_MC2-2E9D-76C5@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-UIDL: ac48cb482dfc151096b215ccc63914f0 Status: RO X-Status: A Your so funny !! = Too busy for capital Letters !! 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Price" Subject: Re: pulsar In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.3.32.19980108172822.00935860@watson.bcm.tmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: 4cd5680bc78562908892d26371fe6ed6 Status: RO X-Status: A Well that would be cool, but what we need to know are what are the legal/corporate things we need to do, e.g. "get thee down to the local county orifice and fill out form QEWRT-111 (in triplicate of course)..." . I'm ok with i3 doing the net side of this, but I'm sure we need to do something legal in nature to make it real. A better question to ask you might be, where are good resources to find out about creating non profit orgs, and can you share any anecdotal data about your experience with pulsar.org? And now for something completely different. If you or someone special to you is looking for an after holiday gift, I can get a deal on some Texas made business class computers. Compaq deskpro 2000, 200mHz PentiumPro, 2.5GB, 32MB EDO ram, 2MBmaxtor grafix, NT 4.0, mini tower, $865. This is a solid business class machine to base a system on. More details if interested. At 04:05 PM 1/8/98 -0800, you wrote: >hey dude >if it is available...it is i just checked > >we could grab it under i3 if you want >speak the word and we will get it >you can host it anywhere once we get it >davew > > >On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Stephen H. Price wrote: > >> Dave can you please tell me the step you took to setup pulsar.org. >> In particular the nonprofit corp stuff. >> Thanks >> pees, we are thinking of doing drmom.org >> -- >> Stephen H. Price >> "Aprendiz de todo, maestro de web." >> WebMaster, Senior Systems Engineer >> Baylor College of Medicine >> Houston, Texas >> >> >> > > -- Stephen H. Price "Aprendiz de todo, maestro de web." WebMaster, Senior Systems Engineer Baylor College of Medicine Houston, Texas From sdwason@SUMMON.syr.edu Fri Jan 9 11:57:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25347 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:58:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from syr.edu (syr.edu [128.230.1.49]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA05601 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 08:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from SUMMON2.syr.edu (summon2.syr.edu [128.230.171.22]) by syr.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16464; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:56:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from SUMMON2/SpoolDir by SUMMON2.syr.edu (Mercury 1.21); 9 Jan 98 11:57:25 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by SUMMON2 (Mercury 1.21); 9 Jan 98 11:57:11 -0500 From: "SARA D. WASON (DEVELOPMENT)" Organization: Syracuse University To: davew@well.com, davew@npac.syr.edu, edlipson@syr.edu Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:57:02 -0500 Subject: Inside SU CC: "M. Nelson (Development)" Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.53/R1) Message-ID: X-UIDL: b8b33cf16b9705960a7afd02261e97e9 Status: RO X-Status: Dave and Ed- thanks again for agreeing to participate in Inside SU on Feb.7th. There are a few questions I need answered: 1. What are your technology needs? We will be in Rm. 132 in Lyman Hall and it has internet hookups and the whole bit. I need to confirm things with the technology folks. 2. Do you 2 want to attend the game after the event? Do you need tickets? 3. Who will the students be? Will they want tickets as well? 4. When can we do a run-through? Later this month? 5. Dave- do you have a bio? Even if you don't know the answers to all these questions, please give me a call just so I know we're on track. Thanks! Sara Wason Sara D. Wason Director, Corporate/Foundation Relations Syracuse University 820 Comstock Ave. Syracuse, New York 13244 (315) 443-2576 From wavz@wavenet.com Tue Jan 9 13:13:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13436 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:13:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lansupport.com ([207.108.144.3] (may be forged)) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA07759 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:13:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from wavenet.com (cx954246-a.phnx2.az.home.com [24.1.244.14]) by mail.lansupport.com (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-39248U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA177 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 13:13:00 -0700 Message-ID: <30F2BE59.46EEAAD6@wavenet.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 13:13:29 -0600 From: Clay Villanueva Organization: Wavz Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-AtHome0402 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davew@well.com Subject: hey dave... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 35e9061f0669ef0011603a1b89e8c429 Status: RO X-Status: A im in phoenix - got your vmail back on the east...- ill be back in dc by tuesday..13th ish... want to meet up in town - or are you free to come to the farm for a night? - I can take you to the airport of course... be well ken wavz@intr.net / ken@designwired.com From mschmidt@npac.syr.edu Fri Jan 9 20:48:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA26935 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:48:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de (sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.13.15]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA08861 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:48:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from dial062.lrz-muenchen.de by sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de; Sat, 10 Jan 98 02:48:26 +0100 Message-ID: <34B6D31E.BEE32521@npac.syr.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 02:47:10 +0100 From: Markus Schmidt Reply-To: mschmidt@npac.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: markus -> usa References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 294cfbea9dd09dc7a0934bff2599808b Status: RO X-Status: Hi Dave, Thanks for Your email, I am very exited to come back !! It makes me so happy !!!! looking forward Markus ps i will let You know about when I am coming. 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H." To: "Janice and Dave Robertson Warner" Subject: Pulsar You saw this I am sure Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 06:42:23 -0800 Message-ID: <01bd1dd5$f6a9bac0$265360cc@stutz.ncia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD1D92.E8867AC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-UIDL: 8987ce287d204d2d9b8584e91dbd89f0 Status: RO X-Status: A This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD1D92.E8867AC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01BD1D92.E8867AC0" ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01BD1D92.E8867AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just looked at this. Is this your webpage? If not, you might find this = ineresting. Helmut http://www.pulsar.org/ ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01BD1D92.E8867AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just looked at this. = Is this your=20 webpage? If not, you might find this ineresting. = Helmut

http://www.pulsar.org/ ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01BD1D92.E8867AC0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD1D92.E8867AC0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Pulsar.url" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Pulsar.url" [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.pulsar.org/ Modified=4082B477D51DBD019D ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BD1D92.E8867AC0-- From rblade@pcisys.net Sat Jan 10 11:21:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02068 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:48:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA28786 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:48:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id IAA19924; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from jerry.pcisys.net (root@jerry.pcisys.net [207.76.102.251]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with ESMTP id IAA19899 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 08:38:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from frank112.pcisys.net (frank112.pcisys.net [207.76.102.112]) by jerry.pcisys.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) via SMTP id JAA24375 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:38:40 -0700 (MST) env-from (rblade@pcisys.net) Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980110093924.37afa490@pcisys.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:39:24 Reply-To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Sender: owner-vrpsych-l@usc.edu Precedence: bulk From: Richard Blade To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Subject: VR therapy papers wanted! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: rblade@pcisys.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (16) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-UIDL: 6f500219daff076297c2ea3571d3a977 Status: RO X-Status: Greetings everyone- IPI Press is preparing to publish a second volume of Max North, et al, VIRTUAL REALITY THERAPY: An Innovative Paradigm, and wants to include new papers on the subject. I would appreciate any leads to papers anyone thinks ought to be included. Also, keep in mind that THE INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL OF VIRTUAL REALITY (IJVR) is always interested in papers on virtual reality related to ANYTHING of interest to VR researchers, and that, of course, includes anything in the Psychology realm. We are also interested in co-publishing VR conference proceedings, and since we can include multimedia (images, video clips, VRML, etc) on the CD-ROM that comes with each issue, we have an edge over other publishers. I'd like to think that at some point there will be VR in Psych conferences and the IJVR can help co-sponsor them. Author guidelines and other information on the IJVR can be found at http://www.ijvr.com. That also has a link to IPI Press if you want to see more information on the first volume of Max North, et al, VIRTUAL REALITY THERAPY: An Innovative Paradigm. Richard A. 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Sun Jan 11 20:26:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA08500 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA22084 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeffsale.san.rr.com (dt0d0ne9.san.rr.com [204.210.56.233]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with SMTP id UAA16418; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:24:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980111202623.006a12bc@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:26:26 -0800 To: ce97sar@npac.syr.edu, alberkow@syr.edu, amblanar@mailbox.syr.edu, mpcarbon@mailbox.syr.edu, tldowney@syr.edu, mwkoniec@mailbox.syr.edu, rahulp@npac.syr.edu From: Jeff Sale Subject: Brooke, Eyal, and NeatTools Cc: davew@well.com, rikr@npac.syr.edu, yjchang@ace.npac.syr.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: d9c43afc888f6b6a9f88e8065a0d8622 Status: RO X-Status: A Dear Really Neat Researchers, Some of you I've met, others not. I've just been set up with quite a system at home thanks to that swell guy Dave (Pentium II, midi, mindset, joystick, TNG, etc., and I would like to know what experiences you have had using NeatTools with patients, of course in particular with Brooke and Eyal and any others you've had the opportunity to work with at length. I know you're doing much more than just NeatTools, but at the moment I'm working on a NeatTools tutorial. For those interested, the basic framework is a shockwave file at: http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Jeff/neat/index.htm The content should be fleshed out in the next few days but functionally it's at least good enough to show people. It's about 375K, so it's slow for a modem, mostly because I included some .wav files of some midi recordings from NeatTools. I'll remove them if it's intolerably slow for you. Actually, I'm interested in anything you have to share in general. Taresa, I like what you've done with the Brooke web page, and I'm happy to help if I can, at least with the QuickTime movies. That's easy for me to do, if you send me a video(s), and specify what clips you're looking for. I've also been told that Rahul has used NeatTools alot, so I'm guessing there are a number of networks which already exist. If so, it would be great if we could set up a repository. At the least, just attach 'em to an email message for me to check out. I'm working on ways of playing midi to make it sound musical and still be easy, using only 2 or three degrees of freedom. Currently, I have created some networks (.ntl) and put them on my web site at: http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Jeff/neat/ I'm happy to explain what the networks are. I intend to provide descriptions of some of the better ones anybody has created for the tutorial, so I'm hoping for some feedback from you in this regard. What are your patients and you finding useful? Personally, I just get a kick out of playing complex midi that sounds reasonably musical just by moving the mouse. Surely that will wear off, and I'm more interested in what things are more critical for Eyal and Brooke et al? The NeatTools sound management tools are exceptional in general. I prefer them over the basic SoundBlaster stuff. But there's still so much more. Thanks for any feedback. I think you all are doing great things! 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Like Sushi/Sashimi? ---------- From: Dave Warner[SMTP:davew@well.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 1998 1:17 AM To: sjones Subject: Re: your mail am groking but not quite sure what that means... hey man your up late.... i will plan to meet you in your home turf on thursday afternoon davew On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, sjones wrote: > will look for you on the web > > From sjones@darpa.mil Mon Jan 12 01:35:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA25858 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:35:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from snap.org (charm.snap.org [192.5.18.230]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id WAA16412 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:35:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadow.darpa.mil by snap.org (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id BAA03796; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from msx-smtp2.darpa.mil (msx-smtp2.darpa.mil [158.63.2.67]) by shadow.darpa.mil (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id BAA11601 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:33:06 -0500 (EST) Received: by msx-smtp2.darpa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:35:22 -0500 Message-ID: <9109EA1DC959D011A46808002BB9FF96B0B49B@MSX-3> From: sjones To: "'Dave Warner'" Subject: RE: your mail Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 01:35:41 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain X-UIDL: 5c33ce22a8caa2f241d52d4681fddd82 Status: RO X-Status: No fish? 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Hope you call From POPmail Mon Jan 12 11:27:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13459; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:27:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from enterprise.pulver.com (enterprise.pulver.com [204.7.54.2]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA24082; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:27:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by enterprise.pulver.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA25456; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:13:52 -0500 Received: from default (poolx2-047.wwa.com [207.241.64.112]) by enterprise.pulver.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA23373; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:53:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199801121853.NAA23373@enterprise.pulver.com> From: "Ken Rutkowski" To: Subject: TECH TALK's Hot News For Monday January 12nd, 1998 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:51:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal X-UIDL: b76bddf7121c9aebbf5de291bb585c74 Status: RO X-Status: TECH TALK's Hot News For Monday January 12nd, 1998 ******************************************** There are always more News Stories & Breif Overviews at: http://www.ttalk.com/news.asp The Daily World Technology Round Up KEN Report Daily on the HOT Tech Stories http://www.ttalk.com/db_ttalk.ram !* Tech Talk's Show For Jan 10 / 11 *! http://audio.wirelesstcp.net/ttalkra/show011098.ram Fred Anderson - CFO of Apple Computers http://audio.wirelesstcp.net/ttalkra/apple18-1.ram Phil Schiller - Vice Prisident of Product Marketing http://audio.wirelesstcp.net/ttalkra/apple18-2.ram =-=-=-=-= T H E N E W S =-=-=-=-= Cancel that ISDN order http://www.forbes.com/forbes/98/0126/6102088a.htm WorldCom to launch telecom service in Japan http://www.sjmercury.com/breaking/docs/017873.htm The PC as home electronics hub http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,17996,00.html?latest UK Net year brings IT revolution to schools http://news.uk.msn.com/news/881.asp Yahoo! most popular web site in Dec-study http://www.internetnews.com/Reuters/popular.html Sun workstations target rivals, Microsoft's Windows NT http://www.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/info/011298/info6_18202_body.html The Web Goes Hollywood http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/CUTTING/t000003569.html Push Technology And The Enterprise http://www.lantimes.com/lantimes/98/98jan/801a052a.html Mac devotees get eyeful at rumor site http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/ctb917.htm Telstra signs up 13 Web partners http://www.smh.com.au/computers/content/980113/news/news7.html Yahoo!, MCI Launch Online Service http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/1998/01/1201-yahoo.html Gates sees Win CE as key to convergence http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/news/0112/12agates.html Crypto debate on course for collision http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/content/zdnn/0110/270133.html Chip Makers Had a Lackluster Fourth Quarter http://www.yahoo.com/headlines/980112/tech/stories/chips_2.html Reebok Finds Web Lack's TV's Demographics http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/1998/01/1201-reebok.html Siemens, Motorola expect jump in chip yield http://www.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/info/011298/info7_18308_body.html Microsoft Changes PR, But Story Is The Same http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/msftdoj/TWB19980112S0004 Fastest Pentium, Fastest notebooks arrive http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,18000,00.html?dtn.head Australian advance in secure e-commerce http://www.afr.com.au/content/980112/inform/inform3.html Low-cost Sun computers arrive http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,17998,00.html?latest Businesses make '98 the year of e-commerce http://www.amcity.com/atlanta/stories/current/smallb4.html Loebner Prize comes to Sydney http://www.cnet.bigpond.com/briefs/localnews/loebner2.html U S West Gets Help For Telework http://www.zdnet.com/intweek/daily/980112h.html Navy discharges veteran in flap over AOL label http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/wires2/0112/t_rt_0112_16.sml New rules ease software cost burden http://www2.computerworld.com/home/print9497.nsf/All/SL1fasb2177FE MS takes softly-softly approach to piracy http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/ns-3517.html Is a Phone Number Too Much to Ask? http://www.latimes.com/HOME/NEWS/CUTTING/t000003587.html Apple Computer, Inc. Announces Mac OS 8.1 http://www.gameweek.com/news/todays_top/news1.htm House-shopping via cyberspace http://www.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/info/011298/info8_18739.html Clinton Effort to Boost Tech Workforce http://www.yahoo.com/headlines/980112/tech/stories/jobs_1.html Siemens, Motorola expect jump in chip yield http://www.nando.net/newsroom/ntn/info/011298/info7_18308.html Website snags more sales, saves entrepreneur costs http://www.amcity.com/wichita/stories/011298/smallb1.html Yahoo! Local firm carving new Web niche http://www.amcity.com/orlando/stories/011298/story5.html Direct IPOs Via Internet Gaining Steam http://www.techweb.com/investor/story/INV19980112S0002 Online trading prompts changes in brokerages http://www.amcity.com/portland/stories/011298/focus1.html Startup Aims To Link Home Electronics Systems http://nt.excite.com/reuters/980112/10.TECH-HOMES.html Motorola Israel GM: Israeli High-Tech Engineer’s Pay - Similar to US http://www.globes.co.il/cgi-bin/Serve_Arena/pages/English/1.3.1.9 IBM Tops Among U.S. Patent Winners in '97 http://nt.excite.com/reuters/980112/10.TECH-IBM.html Swami Reveals Future of Hardware http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_1637.html Wireless Application Protocol Forum Ltd. established http://defence-data.com/current/page1553.htm Worldata Repurchases CMP Interest in WebConnect http://www.mediacentral.com/Magazines/MediaDaily/Archive/1998011208.html/634 827 Microsoft Faces Federal Contempt Charge http://www.yahoo.com/headlines/980112/tech/stories/antitrust_4.html CIOs are disillusioned with the Internet http://www.nua.ie/surveys/index.cgi?service=view_survey&survey_number=554&re l=yes Playboy puts its new media into new unit http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/wires2/0112/t_rt_0112_15.sml Compaq goes into the modem business http://news.ninemsn.com.au/news/4412.asp News Sponsored: www.consult http://www.consultco.com.au Tell Me If There Is Any Thing I Can Do To Make This Daily News Letter Better mailto:Ken@ttalk.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tech Talk's World Technology Round Up http://www.ttalk.com/wtr.asp Tech Talk's Daily Hot Tech News http://www.ttalk.com/news.asp Tech Talk's Weekly Radio Show http://www.ttalk.com Tech Talk's FirstS http://www.ttalk.com/firsts.asp Tech Talk's Australia & New Zealand News & Tech http://www.ttalk.com/austnz.asp Ken Rutkowski Tech Talk News/Broadcasting 17525 South 71st Court Tinley Park, IL 60477 USA http://www.ttalk.com US: 888-785-3701 Webley Global: 708-614-7302 In Australia (04) 1935 0693 ICQ 106274 ken@ttalk.com From janzoo@yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 12:00:58 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22365 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1a.yahoomail.com (send1a.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.22]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA05551 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:01:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980112200058.4051.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.210.19.95] by send1a; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:00:58 PST Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:00:58 -0800 (PST) From: janzoo Subject: Re: Re travel To: Dave Warner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: 0e09ed30f446a95ea224e9114d022e60 Status: RO X-Status: A i'll get ahold of council travel and see what works best for the guys. They just need to know proper dates/time I'll try and lock up the tickets by tomorrow. I may lean on Mike for being responsible for dates/time of travel for the east coast men. talk to you later me ---Dave Warner wrote: > > hey baby > > thanks for resv's > > it is govt work so rate should apply.. > > please send airline info to cyberelves > > was about 10 degrees here last night..snow looks pretty > > cant wait to ski in tahoe > > me > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From tedybear@sirius.com Mon Jan 12 13:52:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18361 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:47:30 -0800 (PST) From: tedybear@sirius.com Received: from mail2.sirius.com (mail2.sirius.com [205.134.253.132]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA08364 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:47:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from dka (ppp-asx202--080.sirius.net [205.134.247.80]) by mail2.sirius.com (8.8.7/Sirius-8.8.7-97.08.12) with ESMTP id NAA24009 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:47:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801122147.NAA24009@mail2.sirius.com> Reply-To: To: Subject: basic concepts Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:52:26 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 42babfb71ea61940bd8ef185a178d51a Status: RO X-Status: Hi Dave, Iam home. I went to my first computer class today. Iam the only one without any computer knowledge. I guess I will be spending a lot of time studying. I hope everything back in New York is going O.K. Take care, Marti From newsletter@pinanet.net Mon Jan 12 18:13:56 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16169 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:39:38 -0800 (PST) From: newsletter@pinanet.net Received: from cordobas.pinanet.net ([205.164.70.5] (may be forged)) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA13665 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:39:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801122339.PAA13665@smtp.well.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 15:46:37 GMT Sender: newsletter@pinanet.net Reply-to: unsubscribe@pinanet.net Subject: PCSP - K6 233 MHz under $ 200 To: davew@well.com X-UIDL: df1a4ec9f587edc54c6e3032e6a3667c Status: RO X-Status: PC UPGRADE UPDATE by Adam Smith THE EXCLUSIVE NEWSLETTER OF ---PC SHOPPING PLANET--- http://www.shoppingplanet.com 1-800-779-8461 January 10, 1997 <--Expand your screen to make a single line for best viewing--> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx If you no longer want to receive the SP Newsletter, send this email or reply to this address: unsubscribe@shoppingplanet.com Your email address is: davew@well.com xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -------------------------> IN THIS WEEK'S ISSUE: > -------------------------> A NEW SOUND- Changes are coming for Windows sound. 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This paragraph will have taken twenty minutes to type by the time this sentence is done! =============== A NEW SOUND =============== Changes are coming for Windows sound. The Sound Blaster standard is showing its age and needs to be replaced with a more capable standard that is Windows friendly. In addition, the ISA bus is running out of the bandwidth needed for today's high quality audio. THE MOVE TO PCI- With a bandwidth of only 2 to 6 MB/s, the ISA bus is limiting the things that designers can implement. The lower bandwidth also prevents true high fidelity reproduction. In addition, ISA based solutions consume IRQs and DMAs that are in short supply. Also, sound cards and modems are fast becoming the only cards in your PC that use the ISA bus. Availability of PCI based sound cards and modems would allow the elimination of the threadbare ISA bus from computer systems entirely! Unfortunately, the elimination of IRQs and DMAs creates a compatibility problem. Legacy applications expect to find a Sound Blaster compatible card residing at a specific IRQ and DMA line. Since the PCI bus doesn't support these features, a workaround is used to provide support for older programs. USB/Firewire- Supplementing PCI are two new technologies that provide for high-speed external peripherals: USB and Firewire. USB is already being implemented on most new system boards, and will provide a plug and play, hot swappable solution for connecting external peripherals. Firewire is still forthcoming, but will provide even faster connections that will deliver the bandwidth needed for demanding A/V peripherals. USB will allow the audio signal to remain in a digital state until after it leaves the electrically noisy computer case environment. Instead, the digital to analog conversion will occur in circuitry mounted inside the external speaker unit. This will allow for higher fidelity with less distortion and noise. A NEW MODEL- In the past, there were two basic ways of generating musical sounds in a PC sound card: FM and wavetable synthesis. FM synthesis adds multiple sine waves summed together to simulate various sounds. The results are poor renditions of the instruments they are designed to simulate. More realism is achieved by utilizing real instrument samples coded into a wavetable. Physical modeling will use coded algorithms to physically model the instrument inside the computer providing realistic results without the need for large digital samples. In addition, the formulas that create the sound are easily manipulated to provide variations that are more difficult to achieve in a wavetable system. DIRECT X- DOS based sound solutions were very flexible for designers, allowing direct control of the hardware. Under Windows, direct manipulation of the hardware is a no-no. Instead, applications must write to hardware through the Windows Application Programming Interface (API). Windows then uses a device driver to achieve standard results that are hardware independent. While this scheme is desirable from a practical standpoint (freeing programmers from the task of writing special code to support every conceivable peripheral), it is also very limiting. If a function is missing from the API, then the programmer is out of luck! This is why many games are still coded in DOS years after Windows became the standard OS! Microsoft has been addressing these problems with the DirectX extensions to the Windows API. Past versions of DirectX were primarily concerned with providing designers with video functions, critical in any game. DirectX 5.0 adds DirectSound and DirectSound3D to allow device independent control of audio hardware as well. These extensions should, at last, sound the death knell for DOS based application development. DirectX functionality is being added to new sound cards in the form of new drivers. 3D- Modern surround sound uses six speakers to provide more dimensionality to the sound "image" than is possible with only two speakers. Movie theaters and home theater systems have the luxury of placing speakers all around the listener. Unfortunately such an arrangement is not always convenient in a computer installation. To help get around this problem, engineers are using the principals of psycho-acoustics to simulate a 3D sound field using only two speakers. Signals coming from the speakers are given minute changes in timing and pitch to fool your mind into thinking that the sound came from somewhere beyond the two dimensional soundstage usually associated with dual speaker systems. The effect can be quite good if you are properly positioned in the "sweet spot" between the speakers. AUDIO CODEC 97- Audio Codec 97 (AC97) describes a two chip solution for providing higher fidelity PC audio at an affordable price. The standard specifies two chips: one primarily for digital, one primarily for analog. The standard allows the digital portion of the signal to remain in the PC, while the analog portion goes near the final output device, insulating it from the noise generated by digital circuitry. The standard is friendly to PCI, USB, and Firewire bus configurations. CONCLUSIONS- As you can see, PC audio is going to have an exciting year! Some products are already available, and more are on the way. Look for these features when planning your PC audio system. ========== Items- ========== -Microsoft has decided that they would rather fight than switch. They will be going to court over the IE4 issue. According to Microsoft, nothing less than the future of Windows is at stake. They may be correct. When the Justice Department casts itself in the role of determining what features Microsoft can and cannot give consumers in their products, trouble is brewing. The Justice Department is neither qualified nor mandated to become the boss of the computer industry. So far, the only complaints have been from Microsoft's competitors and that self-appointed dufus at large, Ralph Nader. In our business, a single, ubiquitous operating system is both desirable and inevitable. Besides, the difference between having IE4 ship free with Windows, or be available for free downloading is a subtle one. Is DOJ going to prevent Microsoft from giving away Explorer? How does that help the consumer? Maybe they should also look into those free french fries that Burger King is giving away. It could be unfair to McDonald's! -A small landmark on the road to better television occurred this week. The Rose Parade was broadcast in digital high definition by station KTLA Los Angeles. 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Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sdsu.edu (root@mail.sdsu.edu [130.191.25.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA14095 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.191.149.5] (jodi.sdsu.edu [130.191.149.5]) by mail.sdsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA06503; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:23:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:21:49 -0800 To: lhyman@mail.sdsu.edu, davew@well.com From: Jodi Reed Subject: [DEOS] Need Software Developer for Telehealth Home School Program X-UIDL: 213fb8b04635886eab32d7845af73765 Status: RO X-Status: I saw this post on a distance learning mailing list & thought this woman might be a good contact. Jodi >Approved-By: deos@PSU.EDU >X-Sender: drm@popped.cts.com >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 10:41:10 -0800 >Reply-To: DEOS-L - The Distance Education Online Symposium > >Sender: DEOS-L - The Distance Education Online Symposium > >From: "Marlene M. Maheu, Ph.D." >Subject: [DEOS] Need Software Developer for Home School Program >To: DEOS-L@lists.psu.edu > >Dear Listmates, > >As a psychologist developing a Telehealth package for hospitalized children >in San Diego, I need some help finding a reputable and experienced >educational software developer to assist with the integration of >educational components. We need someone who can work with us locally to >meet the needs of the children, hospital, families, and school district. > >Our program is privately funded, and starts next month. Any leads would be >appreciated. >Marlene Maheu >_______________________Marlene Maheu, Ph.D.______ > Self-Help & Psychology Magazine > http://cybertowers.com/selfhelp > >619-277-2772 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >DEOS-L is a service provided to the Distance Education community by >The American Center for the Study of Distance Education, The Pennsylvania >State University. Opinions expressed are those of DEOS-L subscribers, >and do not constitute endorsement of any opinion, product, or service by >ACSDE or Penn State. > __________________________________________________ Jodi Reed Pacific Bell Education First Fellow San Diego State University Department of Educational Technology jreed@mail.sdsu.edu http://edweb.sdsu.edu/edfirst/jreed/jreed.html Online Curriculum & Resources: http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired __________________________________________________ From jreed@mail.sdsu.edu Mon Jan 12 17:24:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10513 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.sdsu.edu (root@mail.sdsu.edu [130.191.25.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA14111 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:24:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.191.149.5] (jodi.sdsu.edu [130.191.149.5]) by mail.sdsu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA06506; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:23:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:24:49 -0800 To: gilsdav@sc.llu.edu, davew@well.com, jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu From: Jodi Reed Subject: biomed site X-UIDL: 3b5f846cdd805d1549db608305157116 Status: RO X-Status: A Innovation - features the latest in ground-breaking biomedical treatments and research, including original articles and neato animations. Learn about the latest advances in treating Parkinson's Disease, stroke, and hip fractures, or take a spin through the Deep Brain Simulator. http://www.wnet.org/innovation/index.html __________________________________________________ Jodi Reed Pacific Bell Education First Fellow San Diego State University Department of Educational Technology jreed@mail.sdsu.edu http://edweb.sdsu.edu/edfirst/jreed/jreed.html Online Curriculum & Resources: http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired __________________________________________________ From janzoo@yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 18:08:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20068 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1a.yahoomail.com (send1a.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.22]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA26658 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:09:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980113020844.4235.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.210.19.95] by send1a; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:08:44 PST Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:08:44 -0800 (PST) From: janzoo Subject: laurie's# To: davew@well.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: d87dc5d8ab373a407af694e7d169fa31 Status: RO X-Status: A Here's her number....909-335-1344 Hope it works out. I'll email the guys. Where did mike and julie go? I'll send them congratultion's. Is julie on line? a little simon sounding hum.... Hotel's are booked 27th-4th also. talk to you soon me _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From janzoo@yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 21:19:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA23512 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:20:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1b.yahoomail.com (send1b.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.23]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA12192 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980113051944.29473.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.210.19.95] by send1b; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:19:44 PST Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:19:44 -0800 (PST) From: janzoo Subject: Re: laurie's# To: Dave Warner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: 876e21549b39703289d4d2565704eb16 Status: RO X-Status: Yep she called, she's planning on coming down. She wants a pic. of him. (just jokeing!) What's his url. rik...no comment progress...you sooooooom ahead. I had a l o n g chat with Dean Saturday. He can get you another refill. He also said you may want to make an appointment with this one Doc in Phonex. Someone who himself has the same type of problem and believes in the use of these kind of meds. Timed release. Apearently it's difficult to find Doc's to prescribe it. Sent with love me _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From martisbears@yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 21:59:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA00165 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:00:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1a.yahoomail.com (send1a.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.22]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA21245 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:00:19 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980113055953.1716.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.134.247.101] by send1a; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:59:53 PST Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:59:53 -0800 (PST) From: Marti Warner Subject: screwed-up E-Mail! To: davew@well.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: 562964d7d7fe1cfbf51216b44b0df22b Status: RO X-Status: Dear David I guess you did not recieve my last message. Maybe, I just don't know what Iam doing. Most likely, the latter. Hope you are doing fine. I will send you this anyway. Iam just trying to learn as much of this shit as I can so you will just have to be patient. Now the whole world will lnow that I said shit! Marti _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Tue Jan 13 00:54:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23526 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA24271 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeffsale.san.rr.com (dt0d0ne9.san.rr.com [204.210.56.233]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with SMTP id AAA02590 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:52:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980113005431.0069c0ec@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:54:33 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: Jeff Sale Subject: Re: Brooke, Eyal, and NeatTools Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: c30ccd1d54e68400385c101920cec1df Status: RO X-Status: A Hey Dave, >hey jeff > >rahul is doing some cool stuff and has infected yet another school with >our tools Cool. > >i will "strongly encourge" him to respond > Cool. >let me know if he flakes and i will crack the whip... > Cool. > >hope your having fun > Cool. >ed is real keen on meeting you and discussing eeg and other >phyziks stuff > Cool. >ej will have a c++ kit for you also > Cool. >wheeee Cool. >davew > Cool. > > From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Tue Jan 13 01:01:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA24410 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA25524 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:59:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeffsale.san.rr.com (dt0d0ne9.san.rr.com [204.210.56.233]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with SMTP id AAA02728; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:59:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980113010136.0069c0ec@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 01:01:37 -0800 To: yjchang@npac.syr.edu, Dave Warner From: Jeff Sale Subject: Re: Brooke, Eyal, and NeatTools Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: fd0a9f847a4db0dc2b3af01c9411214d Status: RO X-Status: A Hi Dave and Yuh-Jye, I see that the Controls Palette has now been eliminated and had its objects added to the I/O and Keyboard Palettes. This was a good move, but it'll take me additional time to change the tutorial. Making changes to individual palettes isn't too tough, the tutorial's designed to handle that and it's to be expected, but changing entire palettes is a bit tricker to adapt the tutorial to. Do you expect to solidify the palettes, or more generally, what do you foresee happening in the near future with the current set of palettes? Whatever you plan is great with me, I just want to be able to plan along with you. Thanks, Jeff From Wmkidwell@aol.com Tue Jan 13 08:57:07 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15622 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 04:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo16.mx.aol.com (imo16.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.172]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id EAA28223 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 04:37:56 -0800 (PST) From: Wmkidwell Message-ID: <7bf0d1d0.34bb5ff7@aol.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:37:11 EST To: DaveW@well.com Subject: Research Inquiry Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-UIDL: 1fad954c0583b8f49c27d5372fe87867 Status: RO X-Status: A Dear Dr. Warner, I was referred to you by Mr. Ken Baechel of the Community Alert Network, Inc.. He told me that you have an organization called the Center for Really Neat Research, in which I have already expressed an interest. When I sent you my initial letter you responded with the webaddress for the CRNR, and I have since reviewed them. I sent you an email message or two to further inquire about possibly working together on some research grant proposals which I am currently writing, but unfortunately I received no replies. I would really like to work with you on the Telemedicine proposal I am writing for Mr. Baechel, and, if possible, also on the wheelchair development proposal I am writing for myself. Some of the ideas which you presented in the abstracts listed on the websites contained information which I was able to apply to my own works effectively, and I would like to continue to follow your thinking. I really hope you'll be interested, but, if you're not, then that is okay, too. I understand that doctors and teachers are busy people, and it may not be the most opportune time for us to work together. Either way, whether you can or cannot help me, please let me know, so I'm not left hanging in limbo here. Thank you for your time and consideration, Sincerely, William F. Kidwell, Jr. Harvard University Post-Bac Premed Program From sjones@darpa.mil Tue Jan 13 10:10:02 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05471 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from snap.org (charm.snap.org [192.5.18.230]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA27001 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadow.darpa.mil by snap.org (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id KAA27970; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:10:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from msx-smtp2.darpa.mil (msx-smtp2.darpa.mil [158.63.2.67]) by shadow.darpa.mil (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA07115 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:07:27 -0500 (EST) Received: by msx-smtp2.darpa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:09:42 -0500 Message-ID: <9109EA1DC959D011A46808002BB9FF96B0B4C1@MSX-3> From: sjones To: "'Dave Warner'" Subject: RE: blonde Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:10:02 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-UIDL: 407c64d1ab58ccc94a8a3dcf5df477da Status: RO X-Status: A Great, Wed the 28th then, let me know specs... Will hope for the extension.. Guess I have to think great thoughts now for NextMed Look for you on the 15th Thanks S ---------- From: Dave Warner[SMTP:davew@well.com] Sent: Monday, January 12, 1998 9:40 PM To: sjones Subject: blonde s i just spoke with my friend she confirmed san diego connection maybe web pm for a fly by and then again on fri pm and sat that is if you too seek an extension... will plan a little get together after my 2hr talk on wed pm should be several of us so not so pressured... told her if she flaked id kill her... not really davew From yjchang@npac.syr.edu Tue Jan 13 10:57:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13549 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from postoffice.npac.syr.edu (postoffice.npac.syr.edu [128.230.7.230]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA08144 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pro200.syr.edu (newton.npac.syr.edu [128.230.162.14]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA00020; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:54:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Yuh-Jye Chang" To: "Dave Warner" , "Jeff Sale" Subject: Re: Brooke, Eyal, and NeatTools Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:57:00 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd203b$e2532120$0100a8c0@Pro200.syr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-UIDL: aeb45830d45e77743499fc2ca7016c4b Status: RO X-Status: Hi! Jeff: I did not make this change on purpose. Actually, it is because the way that NeatTools design change. In before, (Before the DLL design) I have a ..cpp file that include all the module object hedaer files. Initialize each object and put them into the pallette was its job. As you can see, this way, I can put what ever order I want. But I could never have an external module. Because the header file of the external module will not be known beforehand. To solve this situation, I make a big change on how NeatTools preprocess each module. Now, the preprocess become distribute into object itself. That means, module register itself into NeatTools when startup or load by user. Then when NeatTools neet to display the pallette it call a method inside that object and object put itself into the pallette. It could put only one or 4 (like COM put itself 4 objects), or anyway it want. Now comes the problem, the KeyboardObj has some buttons in Control Pallette and Keyboard Pallette. I have to move all of it into Keyboard Pallette. And then Control Pallette only have 5 mouse buttons left which I think is a waste. So I move the mouse button into the IO Pallette. Now, comes another problem, the keyboard pallette could not hold so many buttons without cover the whole screen. So I have to spend time and add Scroller into Pallette. So it will become compact and not occupy so much screen space. This is whole story. Hope you can understand why I made this change. Yuh-Jye -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sale To: yjchang@npac.syr.edu ; Dave Warner Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 3:59 AM Subject: Re: Brooke, Eyal, and NeatTools >Hi Dave and Yuh-Jye, > >I see that the Controls Palette has now been eliminated and had its objects >added to the I/O and Keyboard Palettes. This was a good move, but it'll >take me additional time to change the tutorial. Making changes to >individual palettes isn't too tough, the tutorial's designed to handle that >and it's to be expected, but changing entire palettes is a bit tricker to >adapt the tutorial to. Do you expect to solidify the palettes, or more >generally, what do you foresee happening in the near future with the >current set of palettes? Whatever you plan is great with me, I just want >to be able to plan along with you. > >Thanks, > >Jeff > > From stamm@coos.dartmouth.edu Tue Jan 13 10:59:15 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14137 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from coos.dartmouth.edu (coos.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.50]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA08963 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 07:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from coos.dartmouth.edu (slip166-72-191-251.nh.us.ibm.net [166.72.191.251]) by coos.dartmouth.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20458 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:57:50 -0500 Message-ID: <34BB8F53.D7A68AC2@coos.dartmouth.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:59:15 -0500 From: "B.Hudnall Stamm" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davew@well.com Subject: Dave Warner? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: fde3f6224f65de86a51fe9672958013d Status: RO X-Status: A Hi, This is Beth Stamm. I am trying to locate Dave Warner, with whom I worked at a conference in Hawaii in Sept of 1995. The information that I have indicates that he is co-chair of the Telemedicine Technology committee of ATA. The committee shows a name of David Warren. Is this a typo and are you actually Dave Warner or, if you are Dave Warren, can you help me locate your co-chair, Dave Warner? If that is not confusing enough..... Dave would remember me as being in Alaska. I since left Alaska to work at The VA National Center for PTSD & Dartmouth Medical School but am still active in telemedicine. I would love to be in contact with (you or) Dave again. Best, Beth Stamm -- _______________________________________________________________________________ stamm@coos.dartmouth.edu /\ \./ B. Hudnall Stamm, Ph.D., CTS InterPsych Forum Leader. /V \ ^ Group Treatment of PTSD Rural-Care, Telehealth // ^V\ /\\ VAM National Center for PTSD(116D) Research-Design / \/ \\/\\ Psychiatry, Dartmouth Med School 802_291_6225v 6246fax /_________\_____\__\_White River Junction_VT_05993_USA_ From karen@amainc.com Tue Jan 13 08:31:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21350 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:32:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA18963 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA28800 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:31:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from esc-ca6-37.ix.netcom.com(206.217.112.101) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma028765; Tue Jan 13 10:31:15 1998 X-Sender: morgan@amainc.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:31:04 -0800 To: davew@well.com From: "Karen S. Morgan" Subject: Misc X-UIDL: be89e5a0919ae1d484f5484675713fdd Status: RO X-Status: A Hi Dave: I made arrangements for you at the Hyatt, arrival Wednesday, departure Saturday, three nights. The Hyatt tells me you've made your own reservation and requested the Concierge floor. Tell me what you want to do. I don't have rooms on the Concierge floor, and I said I'd cover your stay during MMVR. Also, do you know any students in our area who might want to earn some $$$ by dropping NextMed brochures around the local biotech companies and posting them and MMVR brochures to various bulletin boards? Karen From wavz@intr.net Tue Jan 13 11:41:57 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24055 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldon.intr.net (sheldon.intr.net [207.32.89.4]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id IAA22650 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from intr.net (178.dua1-1.intr.net [207.32.94.178]) by sheldon.intr.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA27141 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:38:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34BB9955.F9EC47EC@intr.net> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:41:57 -0500 From: wavz research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: adventures in dc References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: ed849bf2422399c1425ddec3d6b1e2ad Status: RO X-Status: A ping - the quantico gig sounds interesting... can you bring an associate along - Id like to scope their tech level cool on resting the lungs... - ! - if theres a desire to hyper cruise.... - perhaps we could get back here to do a late afternoon takeoff to catch the purple and pastels of a nanjemoy sunset... i like to mix some day and night when possible I can pick you up fri am if that works for you - - we can make a day of it, do nanjemoy... - and i will get you to AP by 1 ish... (National?) k Dave Warner wrote: > dude > > wed and thur booked by darpa... > > will be at "quantico" on friday > > marine war fighting lab of all places > > so far fri pm and sat am is open > > a couple of options > i get a car on friday to see the jar heads then come to the farm > > or > you come and get me on fri am ish and we do the jarheads together > then we go to the farm but then you get me to airport by 1ish on sat > > either way we should connect > > maybe we go cosmic fri pm > i have paper but am intrested in any other adventure you might suggest > > am into clean air for lungs for next few weeks so no need of erb > but not tempted so feel free to ... not a problem > > time to alter in new and expanded ways > any suggestions??? > > ping me when you get this > davew From watson@aec.at Tue Jan 13 09:13:26 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00291 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from aec.at (web.aec.at [193.170.192.5]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA01562 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:12:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (watson@localhost) by aec.at (8.8.3/8.7) with SMTP id SAA21497; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:10:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:10:32 +0100 (MET) From: Margaret Watson Reply-To: Margaret Watson To: Susan Bridges , Carol Chen , Dan Davidson , Hiroe Sugimoto , Marita Gootee , Jason Melton , Collier Parker , Andrea Polli , Ryan Rathmann , Dave Warner , Yuliya Shulman Subject: Back Online Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-UIDL: 220cbba13f619af7181a92a426d00f3d Status: RO X-Status: Hi everyone, I am now back online and in Austria working at the Ars Electronica Center. I hope that you are having a good new year so far and had a great break (if you had one). Take care and hope to talk to you soon, Margaret ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Margaret Watson VR Programmer/Artist Future Lab Ars Electronica Center Hauptstrasse 2 A-4040 Linz Austria ++43 732 7272-85 ++43 732 7272-2 FAX watson@aec.at http://www.aec.at/~watson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From yjchang@npac.syr.edu Tue Jan 13 12:49:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08453 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:47:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from postoffice.npac.syr.edu (postoffice.npac.syr.edu [128.230.7.230]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA12236 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pro200.syr.edu (newton.npac.syr.edu [128.230.162.14]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA01874; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:47:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Yuh-Jye Chang" To: "Dave Warner" , "Jeff Sale" Subject: Re: Brooke, Eyal, and NeatTools Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd204b$a437d380$0100a8c0@Pro200.syr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-UIDL: 24d473b0afcf2fce72e5c4180de141ae Status: RO X-Status: Hi! Dave: Yes. The change was cause by DLL and external module design. I expect no change on the setting in the future. Yuh-Jye -----Original Message----- From: Dave Warner To: Jeff Sale Cc: yjchang@npac.syr.edu Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Brooke, Eyal, and NeatTools >i think that we have stablized for now... > >right ej??? >davew > > >On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Jeff Sale wrote: > >> Hi Dave and Yuh-Jye, >> >> I see that the Controls Palette has now been eliminated and had its objects >> added to the I/O and Keyboard Palettes. This was a good move, but it'll >> take me additional time to change the tutorial. Making changes to >> individual palettes isn't too tough, the tutorial's designed to handle that >> and it's to be expected, but changing entire palettes is a bit tricker to >> adapt the tutorial to. Do you expect to solidify the palettes, or more >> generally, what do you foresee happening in the near future with the >> current set of palettes? Whatever you plan is great with me, I just want >> to be able to plan along with you. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeff >> >> >> > From cpi@seas.gwu.edu Tue Jan 13 12:51:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09564; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:52:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ladybug.seas.gwu.edu (ladybug.seas.gwu.edu [128.164.9.8]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA13740; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from seas.gwu.edu (felix.seas.gwu.edu [128.164.9.3]) by ladybug.seas.gwu.edu (v8) with ESMTP id MAA21907; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:52:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from cpi (cpi.seas.gwu.edu [128.164.82.179]) by seas.gwu.edu (8.8.7/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA28329; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:50:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980113125124.0091f8f0@seas.gwu.edu> X-Sender: cpi@seas.gwu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:51:24 -0500 To: cpi@seas.gwu.edu From: CPI Seminars Subject: Cyberspace Policy Institute Seminar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: 3a0407372a20c6e4b43b74db77d39cf8 Status: RO X-Status: ---------------------------------------------------------- 1997-98 'Third Tuesdays' Seminar Series Supported in part by a grant from the National Science Foundation Division of Networking and Communications Research and Infrastructure in cooperation with the George Washington University Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC Tuesday, January 20, 1998 4-6 p.m. Room 405 Marvin Center, 21st & H St. NW, Washington, DC TITLE: Information Systems Terrorism SPEAKER: JERRY POST, Professor of Psychiatry, Political Psychology, and International Affairs When the term cyberterrorism was originally introduced fifteen years ago, the focus was on the danger to information systems from the hacker-cracker community. But youth are the mainstay of terrorist groups, and as computer literate youth are moving into the ranks of terrorist groups, information systems terrorism is becoming mainstream. Many of the terrorist groups have their own web site and use the Internet to communicate. We will discuss the hazards to the critical information infrastructure from the mainstreaming of information systems terrorism. Included in the discussion will be a profile of the hacker, and a discussion of the motivational patterns of the groups who might utilize these techniques. -------------------------------------------------------------- For more information please visit CPI web site http://www.seas.gwu.edu/seas/institutes/cpi/ACTIVITIES/SEMINARS/ or call (202) 994-5CPI ---------------------------------------------------------- From stamm@coos.dartmouth.edu Tue Jan 13 12:54:37 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA09786 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:53:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from coos.dartmouth.edu (coos.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.50]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA14072 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:53:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from coos.dartmouth.edu (slip166-72-191-251.nh.us.ibm.net [166.72.191.251]) by coos.dartmouth.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25980 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:53:12 -0500 Message-ID: <34BBAA5D.429535FC@coos.dartmouth.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:54:37 -0500 From: "B.Hudnall Stamm" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: Dave Warner? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 72f9adb34abe5f00f2c2b4dc1c2c23d6 Status: RO X-Status: Hi, > those evil people at the ata could never get anything right..;-) > no really its me I figured as much, especially when I saw the davew part. > i am working on several telemed projects all arround the world.. Discerned this too. Good for you! > have spent some time in malaysia and europe hm...never been...Holland, that is it. I am working on a project in KwaZulu Natal and one in Canada. Both with indigenous people. > this is a great time unsettling sometimes, but it is great! > have a research center here in syracuse and continue to "live in san diego" > i see home every so often. Ah, that is what I figured. We should try to close the distance between here and Syracues (I am in Hanover, NH, white-male-capital-of-the-world!) > to get a little feel for my "rock-n-roll"style here at syracuse check out > www.pulsar.org cool! Reminds me of my old ski patrol days (ever see the movie Ski Patrol back in the 80s? Some of our patrol were in the Chinese Downhill. We were a little more restrained but not much ;-) > to see what im into currently in telemedicine check out > http://s008.infomall.org/newmed/globalmed.html Impressive. I just copied it off to cite in a paper I am writing for the "establishment" > having lots of fun I can tell. > davew > > fun is good Yes it is. I was not having fun the past couple of years but hope to in the near future. ATP was horrible--not to mention they lost my grant and i did the work anyway. I am better here although the move was very tumultious and Dartmouth is SOOOOOO conservative. But, I found some old hippies to hang with, although they are all liberal arts weenies, we do great music. I am studying voice again and have found that I sing well enough that if telemedicine blows up I can always do opera! Glad you are doing well. Hope to be more in touch. Beth -- _______________________________________________________________________________ stamm@coos.dartmouth.edu /\ \./ B. Hudnall Stamm, Ph.D., CTS InterPsych Forum Leader. /V \ ^ Group Treatment of PTSD Rural-Care, Telehealth // ^V\ /\\ VAM National Center for PTSD(116D) Research-Design / \/ \\/\\ Psychiatry, Dartmouth Med School 802_291_6225v 6246fax /_________\_____\__\_White River Junction_VT_05993_USA_ From stamm@coos.dartmouth.edu Tue Jan 13 12:56:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10158 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:54:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from coos.dartmouth.edu (coos.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.50]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA14550 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:54:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from coos.dartmouth.edu (slip166-72-191-251.nh.us.ibm.net [166.72.191.251]) by coos.dartmouth.edu (8.8.4/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26103 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:54:53 -0500 Message-ID: <34BBAAC2.9484F6BE@coos.dartmouth.edu> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:56:18 -0500 From: "B.Hudnall Stamm" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: Dave Warner? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 76ca145ae8f325362c7f0c963b0544f0 Status: RO X-Status: Hi, > those evil people at the ata could never get anything right..;-) > no really its me I figured as much, especially when I saw the davew part. > i am working on several telemed projects all arround the world.. Discerned this too. Good for you! > have spent some time in malaysia and europe hm...never been...Holland, that is it. I am working on a project in KwaZulu Natal and one in Canada. Both with indigenous people. > this is a great time unsettling sometimes, but it is great! > have a research center here in syracuse and continue to "live in san diego" > i see home every so often. Ah, that is what I figured. We should try to close the distance between here and Syracues (I am in Hanover, NH, white-male-capital-of-the-world!) > to get a little feel for my "rock-n-roll"style here at syracuse check out > www.pulsar.org cool! Reminds me of my old ski patrol days (ever see the movie Ski Patrol back in the 80s? Some of our patrol were in the Chinese Downhill. We were a little more restrained but not much ;-) > to see what im into currently in telemedicine check out > http://s008.infomall.org/newmed/globalmed.html Impressive. I just copied it off to cite in a paper I am writing for the "establishment" > having lots of fun I can tell. > davew > > fun is good Yes it is. I was not having fun the past couple of years but hope to in the near future. ATP was horrible--not to mention they lost my grant and i did the work anyway. I am better here although the move was very tumultious and Dartmouth is SOOOOOO conservative. But, I found some old hippies to hang with, although they are all liberal arts weenies, we do great music. I am studying voice again and have found that I sing well enough that if telemedicine blows up I can always do opera! here is the fun stuff I do--btw, I am still (after 21 years!) happily married and we work together some. http://www.dartmouth.edu/~bhstamm/index.htm http://www.dartmouth.edu/people/h/hestamm/index.htm Glad you are doing well. Hope to be more in touch. Beth -- _______________________________________________________________________________ stamm@coos.dartmouth.edu /\ \./ B. Hudnall Stamm, Ph.D., CTS InterPsych Forum Leader. /V \ ^ Group Treatment of PTSD Rural-Care, Telehealth // ^V\ /\\ VAM National Center for PTSD(116D) Research-Design / \/ \\/\\ Psychiatry, Dartmouth Med School 802_291_6225v 6246fax /_________\_____\__\_White River Junction_VT_05993_USA_ From yjchang@npac.syr.edu Tue Jan 13 13:01:30 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA11145 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from postoffice.npac.syr.edu (postoffice.npac.syr.edu [128.230.7.230]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA15789 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pro200.syr.edu (newton.npac.syr.edu [128.230.162.14]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA02049; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:59:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Yuh-Jye Chang" To: "Dave Warner" , "Jeff Sale" Subject: About CD orders. Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:01:30 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd204d$466a8ac0$0100a8c0@Pro200.syr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-UIDL: 85469a108f1116d250250af270e7c9bf Status: RO X-Status: A Hi! Dave: I order "Microsoft Internet SDK" from microsoft web site. It cost $6.65. Like the Acrobat Reader that could run stand along or inside the IE4.0, I think run NeatTools inside the browser is a good idea also. I will modify NeatTools after other core tech are finished. About the self extract exe, I am still think about it. Maybe I will use the WinExtractor from WinZip. Also I heard that Jeff bought a VC++5.0. I think I will going to need this in the future. Yuh-Jye From jojo@trapezium.com Tue Jan 13 10:24:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17891 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from trapezium.com (dialup3.iswest.com [207.178.132.3]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA24447 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:25:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34BBB17B.99F4B153@trapezium.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:24:59 -0800 From: Joh Johannsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davew@well.com Subject: [Fwd: Other devices.] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7CC18804AA42AFC420E23E64" X-UIDL: af3d6145d4b6848da2fcf4354a6727bc Status: RO X-Status: A This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7CC18804AA42AFC420E23E64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought you might think this was cool.... maybe you should look these guys up next time you are in the Netherlands... -- Joh Johannsen Trapezium Development http://www.trapezium.com --------------7CC18804AA42AFC420E23E64 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28975 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from vrml.org (vrml.org [209.66.78.240]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA05590 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by vrml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) id RAA05638 for www-vrml-outgoing; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:52:19 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: vrml.org: majordom set sender to www-vrml-approval@vrml.org using -f Received: from demonstratie.radical.nl ([194.229.52.202]) by vrml.org (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05633 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:52:16 GMT Received: by demonstratie.radical.nl with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) id ; Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:59:05 +0100 Message-ID: <715247E25E07D111B61F008048FC38F602D06F@demonstratie.radical.nl> From: lex To: smting Cc: www-vrml@vrml.org Subject: RE: Other devices. Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:58:52 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: www-vrml-approval@vrml.org Precedence: list > Does anybody on the list use device other than mouse, keyboard or > standard monitor to built or view VRML model? > Well, last thursday the Technology Museum of Delft opened its new exhibit, 'the Digital Schooltrip', about the use of computers and VR in education. We (Radical VR) made the main attraction: a 'Flying Saucer' installation where 10 to 5 children (from 8 to 80 years old ) can stand on a board in the form of a spaceship, and by distributing their weight on the board they can steer the spaceship through a 3D landscape (VRML / CosmoPlayer) that's projected in front of them. One person is sitting at the controls at the front to control the speed and bearing of the ship. At the same time, fans blow wind in their faces depending on the speed and pitch of their flight. It's really a great experience! (Imagine a bunch of kids on this board going "Left! Left! Left!, no Right! Left! Up! Right! Right!" :-) One of the most interesting aspects of it is that it's not possible to fly the ship alone (not enough weight). You need several people and pretty good coordination to reach the goals in the game (flying through rings in space). The educational aspects of this installation thus are the need to decide on a goal, and the team effort required to attain it Our role in this was the design and production of the software and electronics, the coordination of the project, and the design and production of the game. If this isn't non-standard, I don't know what is :-). But why do you ask? Lex van der Sluijs > Radical - Virtual Reality > Oude Delft 219, PO Box 3275, 2601 DG Delft, the Netherlands > phone: +31 15 2121547, fax: +31 15 2157220 > mailto:lex@radical.nl, http://www.radical.nl > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- for list subscription instructions, send email to www-vrml-request@vrml.org with text "info" --------------7CC18804AA42AFC420E23E64-- From jojo@trapezium.com Tue Jan 13 11:25:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03302 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from trapezium.com (dialup24.iswest.com [207.178.132.24]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA14172 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:26:06 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34BBBFA1.6548A278@trapezium.com> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:25:21 -0800 From: Joh Johannsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: [Fwd: Other devices.] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 33fcca452ac314b370b675f176067629 Status: RO X-Status: A Dave Warner wrote: > hey jojo > > how are things going?? > > ej my hacker and i will be in california for the medvr conference > we have just finished the "external module" part to the neattools project > Yes, I hope to be there. Want to meet Yuh-Jye. > i want to know if your intrested in developing some modules > > i can pay you for some work > Sure, I'm broke (by choice I guess). > would like to have some of the autogesture things that you were working > on for really neat > Yes, I'd really like to get this in there. Think if I meet with Yuh-Jye could speed up fitting it in there. Would this be an "external module"? > would be good to connect > > will be in san diego from 26th to the 4th > hope to see you > let me know > When is good, I could go for 2 days, maybe 3 at most. What days good? > also do you still have a well account??? Yes, trapezium just forwards to well account. > how is your vrml project comming > Very well. The freeware thing kicks butt of all competitors, but is very specialized. Norwegians and Finnish people seem to like it alot (in discussion with Finland about source code licensing)... Product coming out soon, but not soon enough. Very specialized, also. One after that gets into cool area, free one and first product just for establishing some level of respectability, which seems to be going according to plan. -- Joh Johannsen Trapezium Development http://www.trapezium.com From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Tue Jan 13 12:43:23 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21866 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA07777 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:41:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeffsale.san.rr.com (dt0d0ne9.san.rr.com [204.210.56.233]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with SMTP id MAA01760 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:41:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980113124316.006a0240@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:43:23 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: Jeff Sale Subject: Re: Brooke, Eyal, and NeatTools Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: d9ae935a66d54888fe3a2224c649bb05 Status: RO X-Status: perseverating?? You're right about me having run out of... How insightful of you. :-) Piece o' cake... From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Tue Jan 13 12:45:44 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22452 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA08430 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:43:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeffsale.san.rr.com (dt0d0ne9.san.rr.com [204.210.56.233]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with SMTP id MAA01873; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:43:49 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980113124541.006a7c74@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:45:44 -0800 To: Dave Warner , Yuh-Jye Chang From: Jeff Sale Subject: Re: About CD orders. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: 5569c4d71774754ea47d400071928a18 Status: RO X-Status: Dave and Yuh-Jye, I'd be happy to pick up vc++ 5.0 for $99 (no documentation, but still the "professional" version), if you can't get it as cheap. Jeff At 10:49 AM 1/13/98 -0800, Dave Warner wrote: >ej > >go ahead and get vc++ 5.0 >check price maybe jeff can get it for you if you cant get it at the >same discount > >davew > >bring some reciept or some form of paper work to mike and he can get you >the $ back asap > >thanksdavew > > >On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Yuh-Jye Chang wrote: > >> Hi! Dave: >> >> I order "Microsoft Internet SDK" from microsoft web site. It cost $6.65. >> Like the Acrobat Reader that could run stand along or inside the IE4.0, I >> think run NeatTools inside the browser is a good idea also. I will modify >> NeatTools after other core tech are finished. About the self extract exe, I >> am still think about it. Maybe I will use the WinExtractor from WinZip. Also >> I heard that Jeff bought a VC++5.0. I think I will going to need this in the >> future. >> >> Yuh-Jye >> >> >> > > From yjchang@npac.syr.edu Tue Jan 13 16:10:54 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06547 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:39:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from postoffice.npac.syr.edu (postoffice.npac.syr.edu [128.230.7.230]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA26014 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:39:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from Pro200.syr.edu (newton.npac.syr.edu [128.230.162.14]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA06037; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:39:38 -0500 (EST) From: "Yuh-Jye Chang" To: "Dave Warner" , "Jeff Sale" Subject: Re: About CD orders. Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:10:54 -0500 Message-ID: <01bd2067$bc6507e0$0100a8c0@Pro200.syr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-UIDL: e0eba6b5b73f3ad8dc871fc7f79c0c8d Status: RO X-Status: A Hi! Jeff: I will check the bookstore in school. But I suspect I could get it at such a low price. If I could not get it at this price, I will need your help to get me one. Thanks. Yuh-Jye -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sale To: Dave Warner ; Yuh-Jye Chang Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 3:43 PM Subject: Re: About CD orders. >Dave and Yuh-Jye, > >I'd be happy to pick up vc++ 5.0 for $99 (no documentation, but still the >"professional" version), if you can't get it as cheap. > >Jeff > > >At 10:49 AM 1/13/98 -0800, Dave Warner wrote: >>ej >> >>go ahead and get vc++ 5.0 >>check price maybe jeff can get it for you if you cant get it at the >>same discount >> >>davew >> >>bring some reciept or some form of paper work to mike and he can get you >>the $ back asap >> >>thanksdavew >> >> >>On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Yuh-Jye Chang wrote: >> >>> Hi! Dave: >>> >>> I order "Microsoft Internet SDK" from microsoft web site. It cost $6.65. >>> Like the Acrobat Reader that could run stand along or inside the IE4.0, I >>> think run NeatTools inside the browser is a good idea also. I will modify >>> NeatTools after other core tech are finished. About the self extract exe, I >>> am still think about it. Maybe I will use the WinExtractor from WinZip. >Also >>> I heard that Jeff bought a VC++5.0. I think I will going to need this in >the >>> future. >>> >>> Yuh-Jye >>> >>> >>> >> >> > From karen@amainc.com Tue Jan 13 13:52:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09920 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:53:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA00318 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA04907 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:53:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from esc-ca3-05.ix.netcom.com(204.32.159.101) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma004769; Tue Jan 13 15:52:20 1998 X-Sender: morgan@amainc.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 13:52:09 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: "Karen S. Morgan" Subject: Re: Misc X-UIDL: c354d04bdb691cec47d6ce71a76750a9 Status: RO X-Status: >karen > >the extra rooms are for my lab slaves >please just reserve the "regular room" for me > >do you mean distribute nextmed lit to companys in san diego?? YES >i think i might be able to come up with somthing > >have you run an ad in the san diego biotec papers??? YES - all calendars, San Diego, LA, Orange County, Bay Area From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Tue Jan 13 16:10:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14769 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA13733 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:08:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeffsale.san.rr.com (dt0d0ne9.san.rr.com [204.210.56.233]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with SMTP id QAA14236 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:08:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980113161046.006a1ba8@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:10:48 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: Jeff Sale Subject: Tutorial update and fees for services Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: e8d81e2dbaf7874d94c72e73f8fad080 Status: RO X-Status: A Dave, I've nearly finished the Display, Keyboard, and Digital Logic Palettes for the tutorial. The Controls Palette has been eliminated, so that just leaves the Multimedia and I/O Palettes, which should be done by this weekend. I added an explanation of the Main Menu, and I improved the animation showing how to make links, etc. I intend to include overviews of the sample files included in the download, too. I'm kind of burnt, so I thought I'd take a break until tonite. Ooh, jeez, I gotta go get Katie pretty soon. Time flies... It appears our web server is not letting people login, they're doing some major overhauls, so I can't put the latest version online yet, but I will as soon as I can. Maybe I should have an account on pulsar? This has taken longer than I hoped. It's pretty tedious, but I'm enjoying the results. So far, I've put in about 30 hours (15 in the past 3 days) since I did that first stint of getting up to speed for $375. I figure when all is said and done it'll be around 50 hours at $40/hour, which to me kind of seems steep ($2000 total), even tho' anything less than $40/hour seems a bit low. I'm still learning how to gauge this stuff, tho', and I appreciate the chance to do this. Does $2000 seem too high? Will Janice croak? It's only a little more than what you're paying Rick per month, and I'm guessing he couldn't do this for that, but he has his own value with his writing abilities. For that matter, it's what YOU get in a couple of days of consulting, which I still get a kick out of, so I guess it's just a matter of perspective, and the price should be based on what the market (you and Janice) will bear. You'll have an excellent tutorial that may be modified for additional objects quite easily, and I promise I'll continue to do updates as long as we both deem it appropriate. I hope you'll think it's a steal at that price, but it's hard for me to tell, especially because it's still unfinished and I haven't really gotten much feedback from others yet. Are you sure this kind of tutorial is what you want. How can I improve it? I'm expecting people to ask for just a plain web site with similar content but no Shockwave, which I can do quite easily once I get the Director stuff nailed down. This could then be printed out or modified to be a downloadable word processing document. All in good time. I'm anxious to get to the C++ stuff when appropriate, but I thought it best to bring this tutorial to at least near-completion. Waddya think? Jeff From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Tue Jan 13 16:12:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15257 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA14298 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:10:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeffsale.san.rr.com (dt0d0ne9.san.rr.com [204.210.56.233]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with SMTP id QAA14409 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:10:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980113161246.00687fc8@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:12:48 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: Jeff Sale Subject: Re: About CD orders. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: 51ef3f3ec2ab3fb7e79592c5d90b0a8f Status: RO X-Status: A Hi Dave, Sounds great. When are people coming out to San Diego? Jeff At 01:53 PM 1/13/98 -0800, Dave Warner wrote: >fyi >jojo (the neat dos and really neat hacker) will be at mmvr >he has some neural net like gesture recognition modules the he wants to >convert from the really neat version to neattools modules > >sounds like were gonna have a mini "neattools" developers conf in san diego > >this should be fun >davew > > > From phrosen@hotmail.com Tue Jan 13 16:29:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA19282 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:27:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (F12.hotmail.com [207.82.250.23]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA19137 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:27:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7240 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jan 1998 00:26:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19980114002635.7239.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.127.248.43 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:26:35 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.127.248.43] From: "peter rosen" To: nathan@adoption.com Subject: Re: creativity.com, please respond Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:26:35 PST X-UIDL: a4a944fbbd32a44b59b93352a81c90fd Status: RO X-Status: A > >Hello Peter, > >You know, it's kind of fitting that the owner of creativity.com would want >to come up with a "creative" solution to a purchase. We are in the middle >of e-mailing hundreds of the Internet's best family-oriented domain names >and then based on the responses we get, we will purchase about 50 of these >domain names. We have been approached several times about joint venturing, >but at this point we have decided to stay away from that option. > >Anyways, if we buy this site, it will be used as a member of a network of >family-focused resources. > >If you are interested in selling, what would be your asking price? > >Thanks. > >Nathan > $500k plus 35% and freedom to license new accounts using that domain as part of our Creativity Cafe Member Services package. Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From phrosen@hotmail.com Tue Jan 13 16:37:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21697 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:37:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (F57.hotmail.com [207.82.250.143]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA21975 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:37:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29977 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jan 1998 00:36:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19980114003629.29976.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.127.248.43 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:36:28 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.127.248.43] From: "peter rosen" To: jim@red7.com Cc: daveW@well.com, envision@Maui.net, rwilson@slip.net Subject: Re: creativity.com, please respond Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:36:28 PST X-UIDL: 6089c90abc769090f68dfbba48e15c72 Status: RO X-Status: A > >>Greetings, >> >>Thanks for your inquiry. What is your intended purpose for use of the >>domain? Are you interested in co-venturing? >>-Peter- >> >>> >>>Hello, >>> >>>I would like to purchase the domain name "creativity.com". What price >>>would motivate you to sell? >>> >>>Nathan Gwilliam >>>FamilySelect International >>>1-888-962-3678 x7 >>>nathan@adoption.com >>> >> > >Peter-- > >So have you given any thought to the question I raised WRT red7 using >creativity.com or creativity.net for the commercial purpose I described to >you regarding connecting creative people (artists, musicians, etc.) with >jobs? > >I am still thinking that something like $5k for the goodwill of the domain >(you can't actually "sell" a domain name - or at least I don't like the >precedent of selling them) and then an agreement that you can always have a >piece of the site available for your purposes (linked off the homepage, of >course), made sense. > >The open question was that you wanted "participation" in the ongoing >business which uses the creativity.com name, and I asked that you try to >put a dollar amount or a percentage on that participation. I'm ready to >discuss whatever you want to drop in front of me. > >Remember that I want to go ahead with the "connection" aspect of the plan I >described pretty soon (like within a few months). > > >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >Jim Schuyler red 7 communications, inc. >San Francisco, California USA > > > Hi Jim, As you may have noticed in my previous corresondence, I suggesed right off the top of my head $500K +. While that may seem like a lot, I have got 18 years invested in the vision, marketing and activation (now that the technology can support it and the domain fell into my lap), of the iimage storage and retrieval system for which CREATIVITY.COM, I envision as being one economic back bone for CCafe Member marketing and principal royalty paying profit streams. Peter ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From phrosen@hotmail.com Tue Jan 13 17:10:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25171 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (F87.hotmail.com [207.82.250.193]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA26418 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10847 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jan 1998 00:48:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19980114004855.10846.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.127.248.43 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:48:54 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.127.248.43] From: "peter rosen" To: davew@well.com Cc: jim@red7.com, envision@maui.com, rwilson@slip.net Subject: Re: creativity.com, please respond Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:48:54 PST X-UIDL: 41368890a507afe9088f186e7187cc73 Status: RO X-Status: A Hi Dave, You Wrote: >asking for 500k and trying to be seriously taken is a little of a >streeeeaaach TOTALLY! > >you just should have said no!!! it is not for sale > > I had told him that in a previous message and suggested a creative option as well. Becuase he came back to me agin, I figure I might ask for something outrageous, rather than shut doors on possibilities. My intention was to put a value on the business I envision coming through CREATIVITY.COM; to me, 500K is nothing! Just playing at busines. pr ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From phrosen@hotmail.com Tue Jan 13 17:10:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26401 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:54:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (F17.hotmail.com [207.82.250.28]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA27892 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:54:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29308 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jan 1998 00:53:46 -0000 Message-ID: <19980114005346.29307.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.127.248.43 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:53:46 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.127.248.43] From: "peter rosen" To: davew@well.com Cc: envision@maui.net Subject: Re: creativity.com, please respond Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:53:46 PST X-UIDL: 66784aa0eded49c17a26e892b74e2759 Status: RO X-Status: A Dave, I too submitted my SigKids proposal. I suggested Cyberarium's Creativity Cafe offer the KidCast activity within your area? What ever. We can work it out. I need to get the hard copies off to the Sig folks ASAP as I go to Florida just when the last 2 week in February Educators Panel final papers are due (I would like you to be on my panel, will you?)...I will send you my Siggraph draft soon. pr > >peter > >just submitted a sigkids cyberarium to sigkids >i did not mention the kidcast in this proposal > >they have asked if im intrested in participating in the "comunity out reach" > >this is where i think that we should place the kidcast piece > >either way we will have one there > >will start to define our participation options for the earthday event > >davew > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From phrosen@hotmail.com Tue Jan 13 17:10:35 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27617 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:59:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.82.251.22] (may be forged)) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA29065 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:58:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4645 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jan 1998 00:56:42 -0000 Message-ID: <19980114005642.4644.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 206.127.248.43 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:56:41 PST X-Originating-IP: [206.127.248.43] From: "peter rosen" To: davew@well.com Cc: envision@maui.net Subject: Fwd: failure notice Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:56:41 PST X-UIDL: 719960184296e355a6e0266e22680e64 Status: RO X-Status: Dave and Patricia, FYI: from prospective Domain name buyer: >>Hello Peter, >> >>You know, it's kind of fitting that the owner of creativity.com would >want >>to come up with a "creative" solution to a purchase. We are in the >middle >>of e-mailing hundreds of the Internet's best family-oriented domain >names >>and then based on the responses we get, we will purchase about 50 of >these >>domain names. We have been approached several times about joint >venturing, >>but at this point we have decided to stay away from that option. >> >>Anyways, if we buy this site, it will be used as a member of a network >of >>family-focused resources. >> >>If you are interested in selling, what would be your asking price? >> >>Thanks. >> >>Nathan >> >>At 01:00 PM 1/12/98 PST, you wrote: >>>Greetings, >>> >>>Thanks for your inquiry. What is your intended purpose for use of the >>>domain? Are you interested in co-venturing? >>>-Peter- >>> >>>> >>>>Hello, >>>> >>>>I would like to purchase the domain name "creativity.com". What >price >>>>would motivate you to sell? >>>> >>>>Nathan Gwilliam >>>>FamilySelect International >>>>1-888-962-3678 x7 >>>>nathan@adoption.com >>>> >>> >>> >>>______________________________________________________ >>>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >>> >>> >>******************************************************** >>http://Adoption.com -- Where Families Come Together >>* Link to Adoption.com and Win Free Advertising Banners >>http://www.adoption.com/freebanners.html >>* Make Adoption.com your opening page >>http://www.adoption.com/media.shtml >>******************************************************** >> >> > >Richard and Jim, > >What do you think gents, shall we sell it ($500K plus 35%), or develope >it ourselves? I need to do the Internic Registration to point to the >Well as there is not even a home page for creatiivty.com, yet. Jim, Care >to draft one viz a viz our discussions? > >Best, >_peter- >let's uplevel > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From martisbears@yahoo.com Tue Jan 13 19:26:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03241 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1b.yahoomail.com (send1b.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.23]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA16220 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:26:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980114032627.24067.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.134.247.46] by send1b; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:26:27 PST Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:26:27 -0800 (PST) From: Marti Warner Subject: Connection failure To: davew@well.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: 90bb212e54ef05106d5a60345cb22dc9 Status: RO X-Status: A Dear David, I forgot to tell you that I am not connected to Sirius yet. The computer boy has not connected me to that yet. Some sort of problem. He will be here sometime this week to do that. He sure is cute, a young boy 24 years old. I am old enough to be his mother. He works for Comp. U.S.A. He has a degree in communications. He also teaches skiing. Talk to you soon Marti _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? 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Let me know if anything seems out of skew, or if I seem to be doing something you don't want or didn't expect. You know how that goes. We sometimes let things slide, but I want to avoid any problems, because so far I have enjoyed this. It seems to be impacting minimally on my family life. In good ways, of nothing else. Thanks. Jeff P.S.: your suggestion about 2 $1K installments is a good one. I'll space them out over more than just one week. We're not hurting, and it'll probably take me until MMVR to have something I really am proud of anyway. That's at least two weeks away, and I'll send the first bill by then. The second should follow 2 or 3 weeks later. 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References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: ace013a440456523f23bdb4f9c459c75 Status: RO X-Status: A Ultra Sorry brother dave, im gonna jam south either tonight or thurs eve - and wont get back till sunday am earliest... Will miss you - and - I am major bummed - I have some domestic coaching support i have to handle in asheville NC - I was trying to handle online, but it requires some face to face assuming the universe will support me, Ill see you in san diego - clay and i are gonna try to meet in AZ and drive over the 29th... ken Dave Warner wrote: > ken > > will plan on connecting with you on fri am > > i will be staying at the residence inn in besthesda but can take the > metro to the station closest to the quantico gig and you can meet me there > should save lots of driving time > > then we can bolt for the colors > sounds like a good thing > > yes to national > davew From freenet98@yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 16:20:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02973 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:17:26 -0800 (PST) From: freenet98@yahoo.com Received: from apollo.lpg.fi ([194.251.245.34] (may be forged)) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00515 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:17:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from 194.251.245.34 by apollo.lpg.fi via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id TAA03368; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:17:24 +0200 Received: from mailhost.header.net.edu(alt3.header.net.edu (133.55.011.011)) by header.net.edu (8.8.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA02797 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:52:43 -0600 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 10:52:43 EST To: phasl@header.net.edu Subject: Talk Is Cheap.....AND Fun! 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From martisbears@yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 10:24:08 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20421 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1b.yahoomail.com (send1b.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.23]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA23021 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980114182408.23250.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Received: from [205.134.247.73] by send1b; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:08 PST Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:24:08 -0800 (PST) From: Marti Warner Subject: Quincy or bust To: davew@well.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: 7d30b121c35d9628add3d2dac4ba1df4 Status: RO X-Status: A Dear David, I will let you know how I like Quincy. I meet with the guy on friday at 1:00. Hopefully, it won't be to cold up there. He say's its 3500 feet. Well, things are the same here. Todd is suffering on another business trip, what a crock! Dad is pretty snowed. I guess Todd needs all the help he can get. Its not like he is ever going to get his own life. Hope things are going well for you. If Quincy doesn't work out I am going to join the bike club here in town. Lots of single jocks,. Talk to you soon, Marti _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From MDMOVIAR@aol.com Wed Jan 14 16:20:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21755 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:29:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo17.mx.aol.com (imo17.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.174]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA24669 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:29:43 -0800 (PST) From: MDMOVIAR Message-ID: <34f5ac13.34bd039f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:27:41 EST To: mg@ucla.edu, MDMOVIAR@aol.com Cc: RoundT@aol.com, George.Anderson@koopfoundation.org, slocke@mediaone.net, DocPJ@Colorado.net, davew@well.com Subject: Re: Suggested Roundtable invitations Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-UIDL: dd773da6de5889adaa0694baed36069b Status: RO X-Status: In a message dated 1/13/98 6:35:58 PM, mg@ucla.edu wrote: Martin: Here are the addresses for Locke, Perinjaquet, Anderson, and Warner. -DocPJ@Colorado.net (Perinjaquet) -slocke@mediaone.net (Locke) -George.Anderson@koopfoundation.org (Anderson) -davew@WELL.COM (Warner) Mike McDonald <Martin: > >I know all of these folks except Steve McGeady. Stewart's wife's name is >Patty >Ryan Phelan. It looks like it will be a good and full session. > >Some of the people who come to mind as participants would be: > Steve Locke, MD > Doctor/Patient Relationship > Harvard Center for Psychiatric Computing > > Craig Perrinjaquet, MD, MPH > Complementary Medicine > Breckinridge Medical Clinic > > George Anderson, MD, MPH (MajGen-USAF, ret.) > President > Koop Foundation, Inc. > >Helga Rippen, MD, PhD, MPH >Director >Health Information Technology Institute >Mitretek Systems >7525 Colshire Drive >McLean, VA 22102-7400 >(703) 610-2442 >(703) 610-2022 (fax) >http://www.mitretek.org/hiti > > Dave Warner, MD > Center for Really Neat Health Research > Loma Linda Medical School > > ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from relay12.mail.aol.com (relay12.mail.aol.com [172.31.109.12]) by air09.mail.aol.com (v37.8) with SMTP; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:35:58 -0500 Received: from lambda.ben2.ucla.edu (lambda.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.30]) by relay12.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA09675; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:35:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from [164.67.164.85] (cs164-85.anderson.ucla.edu [164.67.164.85]) by lambda.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15754; Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:35:05 -0800 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:35:05 -0800 X-Sender: mg@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7a06d74b.3495c1c2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: MDMOVIAR From: Martin Greenberger Subject: Suggested Roundtable invitations Cc: roundt@AOL.com >> From mg@ucla.edu Wed Jan 14 11:53:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA14956 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambda.ben2.ucla.edu (lambda.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.30]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA24706 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [164.67.164.85] (cs164-85.anderson.ucla.edu [164.67.164.85]) by lambda.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA33072; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:53:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:53:48 -0800 X-Sender: mg@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: davew@well.com From: Martin Greenberger Subject: Dave Warner and the Ninth Roundtable Cc: roundt@aol.com X-UIDL: f2d93b8f1bfb8af86b0524631c58f754 Status: RO X-Status: A Dear Dr. Warner, Mike McDonald has recommended that you be invited to the Ninth Roundtable in Multimedia to be held at the Ritz-Carlton in Marina del Rey, California, Wednesday, April 1, 4:00 p.m. to noon, Friday, April 3. The theme is "Reassessing Value: Back to People." Values are drivers of the outcomes ahead. The panel sessions explore this idea from several perspectives. Session number 9 should have special interest for you. We've been running the Roundtable since 1990 for leaders in digital communications and the new media. This will be our strongest program yet. 1. Opening Remarks (Nicholas Negroponte) Wed. 4 p.m. 2. Value in Technology: The Best and the Brightest (Ray Kurzweil, Walter Mossberg, John Sculley, Rick Smolan, Bill Warner) Wed. 4:15 p.m. 3. Value in Communications: Digital and Distributed (Thomas Kalil, Len Kleinrock, Bob Lucky, Bob Metcalfe, Jonathan Seybold) Wed. 7:45 p.m. 4. Family and Educational Values: At the Eye of the Storm (Bill Gross, Alan Kay, Seymour Papert, Patrick Suppes) Thur. 8:00 a.m. 5. Creativity, Conglomerates, and Core Values (Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Larry Keeley, Martin Nisenholtz, Charles Simonyi, Sherry Turkle) Thur. 10:30 a.m. 6. Value in Communities, Virtual and Real (Candice Carpenter, Mary Furlong, John Hagel, Brenda Laurel, Howard Rheingold) Thur 2:00 p.m. 7. Value in the Network Economy: It's Win-Win, Not Zero-Sum (John Doerr, moderator) Global Electronic Commerce (Ira Magaziner, White House Internet policy) Panel Discussion (Jeff Bezos, Scott Cook, Tony Perkins, David Shaw) Thur. 4:30 p.m. 8. Market Capitalization and Value Creation: What's Boosting Market Prices and Why (Bill Gurley, David Liddle, Bennett Stewart) Thur. 8:00 pm 9. Rise of the Net-Empowered Health Consumer - and the Medical Profession's Response: New Health Values in the 21st Century (Linda Adler, Tom Ferguson, Mike Hawley, Mike McDonald, Steven McGeady, Richard Rockefeller) Fri. 8:00 a.m. 10. Shortened Horizons and Long-Term Values: Making the World Safer for Hurry by Slowing Some Parts Way Down (Stewart Brand, George Dyson, Danny Hillis, Paul Saffo) Fri. 10:00 a.m. Among others participating, are: Paul Brainerd, president of the Brainerd Foundation, who was founder and CEO of the Aldus Corporation before it merged with Adobe Systems; Michael McCoy, CIO for UCLA's comprehensive healthcare delivery system; Paul Torrens, co-director of UCLA's Center for Health Services Management; Dan Lynch, founder and chairman of CyberCash; Charles Conn, cofounder and CEO of CitySearch; Peter Clarke, former dean of the Annenberg School of Communication at USC, who is now heading a national program to bring improved nutrition to the undernourished; Robert Carberry, chairman and CEO of CyberGuard Corporation; Hal Varian, dean of the School of Information Management and Systems at UC Berkeley; Jeff Lawrence, CEO of Trillium Digital Systems; J. B. Holston, CEO of NetSage Corporation; Arthur Sculley, partner at Sculley Brothers LLC; Peter Petre, executive editor of Fortune magazine; Pam Alexander, president and founder of Alexander Communications; Lia Lorenzano, president of IDG; Thomas Steding, CEO of RedCreek Communications; John Funk, founder and chairman of InfoBeat; and we hope, you. The Roundtable is noncommercial and by invitation only. It is financed by the participants themselves. If you would like more details, please let me know, or you can request a registration form from the Roundtable office at roundt@aol.com. Hope you will be joining us. With best wishes, Martin Greenberger, Chairman of the Roundtable From CraigR3@worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 14 13:38:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA12011 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:37:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA28565 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:37:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from [12.64.176.173] by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA27093 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:37:03 +0000 Message-ID: <34BD3021.3C72@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:38:01 -0800 From: "Craig N. Robinson" Reply-To: CraigR3@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: MMVR VI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: e95c1c3de512ca784413591b309d5d47 Status: RO X-Status: A Dave, Two quick questions: I booked a room for the 28th and 29th -- I'll probably head up to Kevin an Michelle's on the 30th. Found that my inadvertent swam dive off the roof hadn't drained the *entire* vacation fund. =) Is there a way to get passes to see the 28th presentation and the event you are moderating on the 30th? Upon reading the program, there are many very cool presentations at this event. Second, the owner/developer of TICOM Engineering who works with adaptive serial port devices on PC's and Macs asked if he could obtain NEAT source code (I've told him about the functionality of THG's and NEAT). I know it is freely downloadable but is it okay if he tries to recompile it? He also expressed an interest in working with a THG device if there is a way to get one to him. Can I put him in touch with someone? Looking forward to MMVR, Craig From phrosen@hotmail.com Wed Jan 14 16:21:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17852 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from well.net (root@well.net [206.15.64.23]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA05879 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com ([207.82.251.39]) by well.net (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA24476 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21189 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jan 1998 21:57:32 -0000 Message-ID: <19980114215732.21188.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.4.33.227 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:57:32 PST X-Originating-IP: [199.4.33.227] From: "peter rosen" To: davew@well.com Cc: peter@creativity.net, envision@maui.net Subject: Re: creativity.com, please respond Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:57:32 PST X-UIDL: 630f2b88452301f4dcbd06f2581727a6 Status: RO X-Status: A Dave, Maybe joan collins (who speaks of me and my projects very lovingly, can pull a few "favors?" Pat Johnson would perhaps also express support if made aware of any "difficulties?" Can you take the lead and involve Joan if necessary? Also, I have invited computer Educator on Maui, Tom Wright, who facilitate our last KidCasts from here, to VIRTUALLY be on my Education Panel. He will look into it. Speaks of Stunt Science, doesn't it? Love and Aloha, p > >peter > >ok by me to include it in my area... if they accept it > >this group is a little stiff...not sure how much they are able to grok >the out reach > >will remain optimistic >davew > > >On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, peter rosen wrote: > >> >> Dave, >> >> I too submitted my SigKids proposal. I suggested Cyberarium's Creativity >> Cafe offer the KidCast activity within your area? >> >> What ever. We can work it out. I need to get the hard copies off to the >> Sig folks ASAP as I go to Florida just when the last 2 week in February >> Educators Panel final papers are due (I would like you to be on my >> panel, will you?)...I will send you my Siggraph draft soon. >> >> pr >> >> > >> >peter >> > >> >just submitted a sigkids cyberarium to sigkids >> >i did not mention the kidcast in this proposal >> > >> >they have asked if im intrested in participating in the "comunity out >> reach" >> > >> >this is where i think that we should place the kidcast piece >> > >> >either way we will have one there >> > >> >will start to define our participation options for the earthday event >> > >> >davew >> > >> > >> >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From phrosen@hotmail.com Wed Jan 14 16:21:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA18889 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (F10.hotmail.com [207.82.250.21]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA06747 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10909 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jan 1998 21:52:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19980114215229.10908.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.4.33.227 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:52:28 PST X-Originating-IP: [199.4.33.227] From: "peter rosen" To: davew@well.com Cc: envision@maui.net, peter@creativity.net Subject: Maui V.A.R.I.O.U.S. Update Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:52:28 PST X-UIDL: 0805701f36328bcee8ad3fbd2048ddaf Status: RO X-Status: A > >got it > >some suits never learn ;-) >davew > Kool dave :-) ! Latest news...Made entree into Real estate developer upgrading tourist shopping area in Kihei (see for yourself!) and owns the block. They are media and internet unaware and I come in with big screen (13 x 14 foot donated by HotSails.Maui ...not bad eh, for under a month on the Island?), projector, i-net savvy, pitching Theater Under theStars. No Place in their plan...but the Restaurant they see on the corner has not been planned. I said, "I want it!" and gave the manager copies of the one page plan for SF suggestion easy modifications for the tourist trade. Next Wednesday, the Owners of will become aware of it. I have invited their agents to attend this coming monday's show under the stars for the second installment of "The Real Life Adventures Of Shiloh Bones" Still haven't lost my touch for producing on a shoe string! Just gimme that budget!!!! :-). HEY, ROSEN...you're supposed to be in recovery mode! Just can't keep that producer guy still, no matter which personality I use. The debute Jan. 12, show under the stars in Kihei went well. Media streaming of the event will soon be avail. I qualified for editing using the community Cable Access station and will cut the tape today for viewing Monday before the Next installment of TAO-SB. More later... Hard copy Siggraph forms go out today. I have been given office space at university of Hawaii in the Tech Park. YES! -pr=>quickly moving forward ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From phrosen@hotmail.com Wed Jan 14 16:21:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23360 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA12687 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (F93.hotmail.com [207.82.250.199]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA22701 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 21584 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jan 1998 22:17:25 -0000 Message-ID: <19980114221725.21583.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 199.4.33.227 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:17:24 PST X-Originating-IP: [199.4.33.227] From: "peter rosen" To: jim@red7.com Cc: davew@well.com, envision@maui.net Subject: Re: creativity.com, please respond Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:17:24 PST X-UIDL: 40a0524c1465304fa39e0deb78d28a31 Status: RO X-Status: jim, Glad you enjoyed my tsk tsk to the gent... >If you want a rational analysis, just ask me later on... > Huh? Rational analysis? Does that mean projections of possible income? > >Hey, did you want us to use your hotmail address as long as you're on Maui? > No... Everything is fowarded. I was just handed an office I am setting up for use while here. I will be doing the same in July with Dave Warner in Syracuse?? next june/july in preparation for Siggraph. >Say "hi" to Haleakala to me - hiking across the crater is one of my >favorite things. Nearly froze my butt once doing it. Colder than the >Sierras in summer! > > > >>Hi Dave, >>You Wrote: >>>asking for 500k and trying to be seriously taken is a little of a >>>streeeeaaach >> >>TOTALLY! >> >>> >>>you just should have said no!!! it is not for sale >>> >>> >> >>I had told him that in a previous message and suggested a creative >>option as well. Becuase he came back to me agin, I figure I might ask >>for something outrageous, rather than shut doors on possibilities. >> >>My intention was to put a value on the business I envision coming >>through CREATIVITY.COM; to me, 500K is nothing! >> >>Just playing at busines. >> >>pr >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >Jim Schuyler red 7 communications, inc. >San Francisco, California USA > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From mg@ucla.edu Wed Jan 14 17:17:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09030 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambda.ben2.ucla.edu (lambda.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.30]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA09402 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [164.67.164.85] (cs164-85.anderson.ucla.edu [164.67.164.85]) by lambda.ben2.ucla.edu (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA44678; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:17:32 -0800 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:17:32 -0800 X-Sender: mg@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Dave Warner From: Martin Greenberger Subject: Re: Dave Warner and the Ninth Roundtable Cc: roundt@aol.com X-UIDL: cbee02e3c7cd0ca44de165bbd9b69160 Status: RO X-Status: A could be a book could be a meeting devoted specifically to technology and the future of healthcare will definitely be a lively, mind-expanding discussion of important issues with a great set of people from many fields for personal networking by the way, what's your phone, fax, and postal address? 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Sincerely, Frank Jordan From janzoo@yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 17:49:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16745 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1b.yahoomail.com (send1b.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.23]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA19065 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:49:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980115014933.13179.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.210.20.158] by send1b; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:49:33 PST Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:49:33 -0800 (PST) From: janzoo Subject: 13 shell doc To: davew@well.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: f94fc8320e0f6d6c7361e8fd3dfdc9e7 Status: RO X-Status: A Hi hon hope your day is going welllll. below is the url for a shell doc. that can be copied as a template for all existing pulsar pages and future ones. (thanks to Simon) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4645/aapulsar.htm three tables table one is banner table two takes text (empty) table three has home button and copyright info This is the url for the banner. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4645/bnpulsar.jpg This is the url for the home button. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4645/0pulsar.jpg this is so you can SAVE AS to the pulsar directory. Just thought you might like to use it as index button to return home or whatever on the home page. I like it when at the bottom of page after I have read everything there is a button that I click and return back to the index page. I can give this to Rick if you're at all interested. The shell Doc. can be used as a standard for all the pages because it adds a banner at the top that links to the index page and also a home button at the bottom. Do you like the blue sky as banner back ground color? (we can change it with the seasons!) Well I suppose you are in the DC area.... I got all the tags for the cars today... Yea!!! talk to you soon... me _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From CraigR3@worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 14 18:20:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23169 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA27380 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:20:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [12.64.176.173] by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA12150 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 02:19:33 +0000 Message-ID: <34BD723F.1FA4@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:20:29 -0800 From: "Craig N. Robinson" Reply-To: CraigR3@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: MMVR VI Schedule References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 38d5587ee5e466e6c3fd20d2f46b5d2d Status: RO X-Status: Dave, Sounds great; will pass along the info to him. Will be in touch before the event. Craig P.S. Wear something warm, it's freezing out here. =) From CraigR3@worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 14 19:50:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12319 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA22786 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [12.64.176.173] by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA11326 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 03:50:23 +0000 Message-ID: <34BD875C.7C86@worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:50:41 -0800 From: "Craig N. Robinson" Reply-To: CraigR3@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: MMVR VI Schedule References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 8c2451d414c7bd6d20b5c9c05aa06569 Status: RO X-Status: Hehe, I know, was kidding. =) Has been on the news all week. Bundle up and hang in there... Craig From janzoo@yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 23:07:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA14773 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1b.yahoomail.com (send1b.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.23]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA07542 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:08:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980115070759.11450.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.210.20.158] by send1b; Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:07:59 PST Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:07:59 -0800 (PST) From: janzoo Subject: travel To: davew@well.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: f8d1dc0bd763d3d75ad21e15fd932e9a Status: RO X-Status: A I called us airlines...the cheapest for the dates 27jan to 4feb. is over $1,000. IF you flew out on sat. and back the next tuesday (three day's later) it would be $300. It's their weenend special. Hope she did'nt screw you up. Or she's got a great connection. Perhaps she booked back to back tickets. That would be $600. Boy oh boy i hope my memory didn't run off again... but I "remembered" you wanting a car at Dullus... so I booked you on Hertz, Fri the 17th at 7:30am 22.68/day Confirmation number...A2421446E88 if not quite right I book you out of national.... Well love you are missed me _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mss@mscc.huji.ac.il Thu Jan 15 08:21:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12623 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA04425 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id HAA08301; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from actcom.co.il (root@actcom.co.il [192.114.47.1]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with ESMTP id HAA08277 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dr.weiss by actcom.co.il with SMTP (8.8.6/actcom-0.2) id RAA26762; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:26:26 +0200 (EET) (rfc931-sender: dial-20-35.slip.huji.ac.il [128.139.3.45]) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980115171506.006d8160@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:15:06 +0200 Reply-To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Sender: owner-vrpsych-l@usc.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessel To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Cc: Paul M Sharkey Subject: request conference info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mss@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-UIDL: bc22646de195724d256b822f421a98f9 Status: RO X-Status: Other than the ECDVRAT '98 conference in Sweden and the conference on Technology and Persons with Disability in California, are there any other conferences I should know about? Thank you, and be well. Adam Jessel ----------------------------------------------------------------- S.Z. Jessel School of Occupational Therapy Faculty of Medicine Hebrew University / Hadassah Hospital P.O. Box 24026, Mount Scopus Jerusalem 91240 Israel mss@pluto.huji.ac.il fax: 972-2-532-4985 From wagoner@amainc.com Thu Jan 15 09:57:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14027 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id KAA16855 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id JAA11367; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:55:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.16]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with ESMTP id JAA11214 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id LAA17300 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:53:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from esc-ca3-21.ix.netcom.com(204.32.159.117) by dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma017226; Thu Jan 15 11:52:39 1998 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:57:27 -0700 Reply-To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Sender: owner-vrpsych-l@usc.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bob Wagoner To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Subject: Re: request conference info In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980115171506.006d8160@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: morgan2@amainc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-UIDL: 0a50b9898f9b14fcb724d9f8f5c75186 Status: RO X-Status: A The most important meetings you need to know about in this arena is the Medicine Meets Virtual Reality:6 and NextMed. Please take a look at the web site http://www.amainc.com and there are links to these meeting pages. Thanks for your interest. Bob Wagoner >Other than the ECDVRAT '98 conference in Sweden and the conference on >Technology and >Persons with Disability in California, are there any other conferences I >should know about? > >Thank you, and be well. > >Adam Jessel > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >S.Z. Jessel >School of Occupational Therapy >Faculty of Medicine >Hebrew University / Hadassah Hospital >P.O. Box 24026, Mount Scopus >Jerusalem 91240 >Israel > >mss@pluto.huji.ac.il >fax: 972-2-532-4985 From janzoo@yahoo.com Thu Jan 15 10:07:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14261 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1a.yahoomail.com (send1a.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.22]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA17187 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:08:16 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980115180742.4807.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Received: from [204.210.20.158] by send1a; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:07:42 PST Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:07:42 -0800 (PST) From: janzoo Subject: travel To: davew@well.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: b0cc29499285fa67f7c0836609eddff4 Status: RO X-Status: A shit. Your new conf. number is A242OE37859 Warner,D at National. Same dates Price $31.08/day I spoke with Wilcox travel. You got in on a screw up of the airlines. I'll contact Mike re: the guys back there. For ej and wife do you know dates? I can go ahead with those two since she does not gave student ID. xxme _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From wavz@wavenet.com Thu Jan 15 12:00:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27577 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.lansupport.com ([207.108.144.3] (may be forged)) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA04522 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from wavenet.com (cx954246-a.phnx2.az.home.com [24.1.244.14]) by mail.lansupport.com (Post.Office MTA Undefined release Undefined ID# 0-39248U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA165 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:00:16 -0700 Message-ID: <34BE4EC9.3A5AF8A3@wavenet.com> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:00:41 -0600 From: Clay Villanueva Organization: Wavz Research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-AtHome0402 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: hey dude... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: a1f63c125017266fbc2bdda1a8535f26 Status: RO X-Status: Hola Hola!! Yes...It was way cool to hook up with you guys. Thanx for a great visit. Those warmth units you loaned us were by the door for you to take when you departed but ..... Do ya want me to mail 'em to SYR or SD? Or I'll bring em if I go to MedVR. Good luck with DarpaVader.... Ken says you'll be over on Friday...enjoy. Stay WARM my brutha... clay :-) Dave Warner wrote: > > hey clay > > was good to see you and your's over the break of xmas > > thanks for hanging out with the family > > hope all is groovy > > will be visiting the darpa folks to try to get $$ setteled > > will try to swing by in the next few months... > > it is cold here.. > snow tomorrow wheeeeee > davew From arizzo@almaak.usc.edu Thu Jan 15 11:11:48 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01859 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA09823 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA02762; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mizar.usc.edu (mizar.usc.edu [128.125.253.135]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with ESMTP id LAA02668 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu.usc.edu (ger238.usc.edu [128.125.27.146]) by mizar.usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA20651 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:11:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199801151911.LAA20651@mizar.usc.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:11:48 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Sender: owner-vrpsych-l@usc.edu Precedence: bulk From: arizzo@almaak.usc.edu To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Subject: Re: request conference info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: arizzo@mizar.usc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-UIDL: e4b6ac3f19ebf52fc09148783c521e27 Status: RO X-Status: Dear Adam, In addition to MMVR6 (which looks to be a great conference this year!). VRAIS in Atlanta is also a good one...I believe some of the folks on this list could elaborate more on this. Technology and Persons with Disabilities is a very good general conference with a wide range of topics...however, this year there are very few VR papers. I was just looking through the program and only found one entitled "Use of VR Techniques to Train Elderly People to step over Obstacles" by David L. Jaffe from the Dept. of Veterans Affairs in Palo Alto. I spoke with Mr. Jaffe and he kindly emailed me a copy of his paper in case anyone has an interest in this work...I can pass it on! Regarding the dearth of VR papers at this conference, I think it is mainly due to it's temporal and spatial proximity to the MMVR6 conference in San Diego... I am actually getting very excited about this year's MMVR6 conference as there are 25 papers!! being presented and many of them are by people who are on this list who I have never met in person! Perhaps we should plan a little post-conference social get together after the papers are presented so we can all gab informally and have some fun talking about our favorite topic ;)! Finally, we are working on a paper right now and I was wondering if anyone on the list had any suggestions on the following questions: 1. can anyone provide a reference for a good recent review on the history and use of simulators and cognitive abilities? 2. perhaps the folks doing VR/phobia apps. might be aware of some type of "imagery ability" questionnaire that can somehow be used to assess this process? 3. are there any rec's on articles that deal with defining or measuring the "immersive" characteristics of various VR environments? Thanks in advance to anyone who can help on these items!!! Best Regards and see you at MMVR6!!!! Skip At 05:15 PM 1/15/98 +0200, you wrote: >Other than the ECDVRAT '98 conference in Sweden and the conference on >Technology and >Persons with Disability in California, are there any other conferences I >should know about? > >Thank you, and be well. > >Adam Jessel > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >S.Z. Jessel >School of Occupational Therapy >Faculty of Medicine >Hebrew University / Hadassah Hospital >P.O. Box 24026, Mount Scopus >Jerusalem 91240 >Israel > >mss@pluto.huji.ac.il >fax: 972-2-532-4985 > > Albert "Skip" Rizzo, Ph.D. Alzheimer's Disease Research Center 3715 McClintock University of Southern California University Park MC-0191 Los Angeles, CA. 90089-0191 email: arizzo@mizar.usc.edu phone: 213-740-9819 fax: 213-740-8241 "Understanding is a three-edged sword." Vorlon Proverb From brothba@emory.edu Thu Jan 15 14:28:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06612 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:37:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA15736 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:37:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA08577; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:28:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from graf.cc.emory.edu (graf.cc.emory.edu [170.140.1.44]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with ESMTP id LAA08537 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from larry.cc.emory.edu (brothba@larry.cc.emory.edu [170.140.1.65]) by graf.cc.emory.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA09720 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:28:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:28:06 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Sender: owner-vrpsych-l@usc.edu Precedence: bulk From: Barbara O Rothbaum To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Subject: Re: request conference info In-Reply-To: <199801151911.LAA20651@mizar.usc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: brothba@larry.cc.emory.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-UIDL: 7c5c0a2e1a7adbc1cb18186a6176c91f Status: RO X-Status: Skip, I might be able to help with one of your questions. you may want to look at the Questionnaire on Mental Imagery (QMI) (Betts et al., 1989). I'm sorry, that's all a reference I have on it. Barbara Rothbaum On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 arizzo@almaak.usc.edu wrote: > Dear Adam, > > In addition to MMVR6 (which looks to be a great conference this year!). > VRAIS in Atlanta is also a good one...I believe some of the folks on this > list could elaborate more on this. > > Technology and Persons with Disabilities is a very good general conference > with a wide range of topics...however, this year there are very few VR > papers. I was just looking through the program and only found one entitled > "Use of VR Techniques to Train Elderly People to step over Obstacles" by > David L. Jaffe from the Dept. of Veterans Affairs in Palo Alto. I spoke with > Mr. Jaffe and he kindly emailed me a copy of his paper in case anyone has an > interest in this work...I can pass it on! Regarding the dearth of VR papers > at this conference, I think it is mainly due to it's temporal and spatial > proximity to the MMVR6 conference in San Diego... I am actually getting very > excited about this year's MMVR6 conference as there are 25 papers!! being > presented and many of them are by people who are on this list who I have > never met in person! Perhaps we should plan a little post-conference social > get together after the papers are presented so we can all gab informally and > have some fun talking about our favorite topic ;)! > > Finally, we are working on a paper right now and I was wondering if anyone > on the list had any suggestions on the following questions: > > 1. can anyone provide a reference for a good recent review on the history > and use of simulators and cognitive abilities? > > 2. perhaps the folks doing VR/phobia apps. might be aware of some type of > "imagery ability" questionnaire that can somehow be used to assess this process? > > 3. are there any rec's on articles that deal with defining or measuring the > "immersive" characteristics of various VR environments? > > Thanks in advance to anyone who can help on these items!!! > > Best Regards and see you at MMVR6!!!! > > Skip > > > At 05:15 PM 1/15/98 +0200, you wrote: > >Other than the ECDVRAT '98 conference in Sweden and the conference on > >Technology and > >Persons with Disability in California, are there any other conferences I > >should know about? > > > >Thank you, and be well. > > > >Adam Jessel > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >S.Z. Jessel > >School of Occupational Therapy > >Faculty of Medicine > >Hebrew University / Hadassah Hospital > >P.O. Box 24026, Mount Scopus > >Jerusalem 91240 > >Israel > > > >mss@pluto.huji.ac.il > >fax: 972-2-532-4985 > > > > > Albert "Skip" Rizzo, Ph.D. > Alzheimer's Disease Research Center > 3715 McClintock > University of Southern California > University Park MC-0191 > Los Angeles, CA. 90089-0191 > > email: arizzo@mizar.usc.edu > phone: 213-740-9819 > fax: 213-740-8241 > > "Understanding is a three-edged sword." > > Vorlon Proverb > From karen@amainc.com Thu Jan 15 11:50:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10572 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:52:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id LAA20887 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id NAA13389 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:51:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from esc-ca2-04.ix.netcom.com(204.32.159.68) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma013340; Thu Jan 15 13:51:02 1998 X-Sender: morgan@amainc.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:50:42 -0800 To: davew@well.com From: "Karen S. Morgan" Subject: Audio/visual X-UIDL: 5885a801cc0a0221c0428d2c2696896f Status: RO X-Status: A Dave: I need your A/V set for "Blue Skies". And no blue skies requests, either. Karen From karen@amainc.com Thu Jan 15 12:03:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14443 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:05:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA25854 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA14855 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:04:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from esc-ca2-04.ix.netcom.com(204.32.159.68) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma014829; Thu Jan 15 14:04:02 1998 X-Sender: morgan@amainc.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:03:53 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: "Karen S. Morgan" Subject: Re: Audio/visual X-UIDL: 20bf48459031778a7067eaca124e86f1 Status: RO X-Status: A >hey karen > >need >1 slide projector >one overhead projector DOES THIS MEAN YOU PLAN TO USE TRANPARENCIES? >one computer/video projector YOU BRING YOUR OWN COMPUTER AND CONNECTIONS >TO LCD PROJECTION - WE PROVIDE NO COMPUTERS > >roving mike ie wireless > From sjones@darpa.mil Thu Jan 15 15:08:55 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA15745 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mom.hooked.net (root@mom.hooked.net [206.80.6.10]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA27407 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from snap.org (charm.snap.org [192.5.18.230]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26845 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadow.darpa.mil by snap.org (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id PAA13379; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:09:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from msx-smtp2.darpa.mil (msx-smtp2.darpa.mil [158.63.2.67]) by shadow.darpa.mil (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA04655 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by msx-smtp2.darpa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:08:32 -0500 Message-ID: <9109EA1DC959D011A46808002BB9FF96B0B507@MSX-3> From: sjones To: "'Dave Warner'" Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:08:55 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain X-UIDL: 099050cf5deca9c3723a3fab2fa4437a Status: RO X-Status: Give me a buzz at 301-654-5110 when you get off line.. S From mschmidt@npac.syr.edu Thu Jan 15 15:48:05 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25252 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de (sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de [129.187.13.15]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA09326 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from dial0094.lrz-muenchen.de by sunsrv5.lrz-muenchen.de; Thu, 15 Jan 98 21:31:27 +0100 Message-ID: <34BE70D7.8B32FB75@npac.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:25:59 +0100 From: Markus Schmidt Reply-To: mschmidt@npac.syr.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: markus->SYR: 3/15 - 3/28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 7dfae4c7584373f81776eb6359f80ff9 Status: RO X-Status: A Hi Dave, Ashley's homepage is pretty cool, I read Your comment Still, I could add some more gimmicks the next time I visit her... I am organizing my flight - is it ok, if I come to Syracuse 3/15 til 3/28 and to San Diego 3/28 til 4/24 ? Looking forward to see You peace Markus From CraigR3@worldnet.att.net Thu Jan 15 13:28:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05454 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id NAA22224 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:28:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from [12.64.176.167] ([12.64.176.191]) by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA4406; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:27:45 +0000 Message-ID: <34BE7F75.1FF4@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 13:28:45 -0800 From: "Craig N. Robinson" Reply-To: CraigR3@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner CC: craigr3@smtp.well.com Subject: Re: MMVR VI & NEATTools References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 1e66949eb06cdb6ba5155462384af6d6 Status: RO X-Status: A Dave, Is there a manual for NEATTools? Neat seemed fairly straightforward but RNeat doesn't work on my PC or my Mac (correctly sees problem with sound card on my PC and no idea why it doesn't work under VirtualPC), and I've yet to completely understand the power of NeatTools. Do hope you know that I was poking fun at SoCal weather last night and not that of Northeast. People have commented on the cold/odd weather here when it looks brutal just to the north of you. Is the cross-country skiing okay? Craig From timothy@curve.net Thu Jan 15 14:43:22 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27951; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:51:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.com (majordom@xanadu.cyborganic.net [205.167.117.20]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id OAA20759; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.com (8.8.7/8.7.7) id OAA25962 for verge-events-outgoing; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from smudge (sfo-ca7-13.ix.netcom.com [204.30.64.45]) by xanadu.cyborganic.com (8.8.7/8.7.7) with SMTP id OAA25957 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:46:46 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980115144322.015d4984@cyborganic.net> X-Sender: timothy@cyborganic.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:43:22 -0800 To: verge-events@verge.org From: Timothy Childs Subject: Flexible Commercial Space IMMEDIATELY Available Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-verge-events@curve.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Timothy Childs X-UIDL: 2f384c15f399d951fefab19de620d988 Status: RO X-Status: A Feel free to pass this on. Thanks, --timothy --------------- Flexible Commercial Space IMMEDIATELY Available Total of 2,000 square feet of commercial space is left available (one floor). High ceilings. Brick walls. Recently structurally reinforced to prevent earthquake damage. Air conditioning. Centrex phone lines already installed. Ethernet / phone lines everywhere. Will subdivide as low as 200 square feet offices. Rent from $1 to $1.25 per square foot depending on size. Prime multimedia gulch location. Parking available. Please call Timothy at 415.882.9288. From sjones@darpa.mil Thu Jan 15 19:07:52 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA18462 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:07:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from snap.org (charm.snap.org [192.5.18.230]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA16904 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:07:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadow.darpa.mil by snap.org (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id TAA20566; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:08:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from msx-smtp2.darpa.mil (msx-smtp2.darpa.mil [158.63.2.67]) by shadow.darpa.mil (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA13435 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:05:17 -0500 (EST) Received: by msx-smtp2.darpa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:07:30 -0500 Message-ID: <9109EA1DC959D011A46808002BB9FF96B0B50B@MSX-3> From: sjones To: "'Dave Warner'" Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:07:52 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain X-UIDL: b1d655789bdbd1f4004efac886c64217 Status: RO X-Status: Thanks From hodges@cc.gatech.edu Thu Jan 15 19:05:45 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20372 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:16:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA18920 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:15:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id QAA17136; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from burdell.cc.gatech.edu (root@burdell.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.3.207]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with ESMTP id QAA17094 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:06:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gvu1.cc.gatech.edu (hodges@gvu1.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.119.241]) by burdell.cc.gatech.edu (8.8.4/8.6.9) with ESMTP id TAA28031 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:05:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hodges@localhost) by gvu1.cc.gatech.edu (8.8.4/8.6.9) id TAA02079 for vrpsych-l@usc.edu; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:05:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199801160005.TAA02079@gvu1.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:05:45 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Sender: owner-vrpsych-l@usc.edu Precedence: bulk From: hodges@cc.gatech.edu (hodges) To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Subject: Re: request conference info In-Reply-To: <199801151911.LAA20651@mizar.usc.edu> from "arizzo@almaak.usc.edu" at Jan 15, 98 11:11:48 am Content-Type: text X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-UIDL: 256ffb6cc1db934e1d8c24b8a241c719 Status: RO X-Status: The web site, with program and registration info for VRAIS is: http://www.eece.unm.edu/eece/conf/vrais/ >Dear Adam, > >In addition to MMVR6 (which looks to be a great conference this year!). >VRAIS in Atlanta is also a good one...I believe some of the folks on this >list could elaborate more on this. > > -- Larry F. Hodges, Ph.D. hodges@cc.gatech.edu Associate Professor, College of Computing office: (404) 894-8787 Associate Director for Industrial Relations secr: (404) 894-7865 Graphics, Visualization and Usability Center fax: (404) 894-2970 801 Atlantic Drive GVU: (404) 894-4488 Georgia Institute of Technology (Georgia Tech) Atlanta, GA 30332-0280 http://www.cc.gatech.edu/gvu/virtual/ From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Thu Jan 15 16:20:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21756 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:20:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA20986 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [130.191.235.227] (dyn-235-227.sdsu.edu [130.191.235.227]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with ESMTP id QAA20284 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:20:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:20:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.32.19980113194637.0069e39c@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Dave Warner From: Jeff Sale Subject: Re: Tutorial update and fees for services X-UIDL: 13f47549c59cfa5603d757a5a6f32e60 Status: RO X-Status: A >hey man dont worry i will let you know if i think that your heading out >of bounds on the deliverable Thanks, dude. >ill make sure that the money you get is pure and clean...ie not darpa's >evil corupting money....;-) Not only this, but the darpa people aren't allowed to use my tutorial, either! Heh, heh, just kidding. >should be a great time arround mmvr and webscience2000 > >i think that a ej-jeff-jojo combination for a little get together will be >very fruitful I agree, and I'm looking forward to it. >also ed lipson will want to discuss chaos stuff.. >he said that it will be good to talk to another real physics person in >this project.... Chaos?? What's that??!! >keep up the good work ... i will try to find even more$$$ to throw at >this project Cool! >future looks good .... as long as i dont open my eyes Hey, ignorance is bliss!! See ya soon, Jeff jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Jeff/ ph: 619-594-4881 From karen@amainc.com Thu Jan 15 17:59:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14723 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA22095 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA25422 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:59:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from esc-ca2-24.ix.netcom.com(204.32.159.88) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma025398; Thu Jan 15 19:59:23 1998 X-Sender: morgan@amainc.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:59:14 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: "Karen S. Morgan" Subject: Re: Audio/visual X-UIDL: 8ca2464542898178d27b197b73e3232b Status: RO X-Status: A >will have a few transparencies These are not allowed. Transparencies are for geeks. You are a nerd. Nerds use LCD. Hey - we've been invited to co-locate MMVR:7 in San Jose next year, with the huge Photonics West (SPIE) show. Whaddya think? From Jselkind@aol.com Thu Jan 15 20:29:31 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA28343 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA10975 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:06:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from usc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id TAA04908; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:01:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.175]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with ESMTP id TAA04796 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:01:31 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:48:35 EST Reply-To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Sender: owner-vrpsych-l@usc.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jselkind To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu Subject: Re: request conference info Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Inet_Mail_Out (IMOv11) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-UIDL: e9e8b724fc5ddf2a6c415fd3788e9515 Status: RO X-Status: Hi Skip, I am looking forward to the MMVR: 6. To respond generally to your questions: There is a massive litereature data base called Uncover. I believe you may find it on the Internet through a search engine, such as Lycos. It also may be listed under Carl Systems. If you can't, the phone number either is 1-800-787-7979 or 1-800-627-627-3278. If these fail call uncover at 1-303-7758-3030. Essentially "Uncover" is a massive library. They have a service called "Reveal." By registering on Reveal (there is no fee) you can list two, perhaps more, specific areas of interest. As journal articles appear that approximate your areas of interest, you will be e-mailed their source, title, author, issue, etc. Faithfully, at least once per week, I've been getting notices. My only suggestion is don't limit yourself by identifying too narrow a topic. When something has appeared to be interesting I've followed up by locating the article at the Boston College Library. It's been a great resource. If any of this is unclear or you can't reach them, let me know. See you in San Diego; And, if you have some time I'd like to discuss something with you. Best regards and happy new year. Jim From ticom@earthlink.net Thu Jan 15 22:53:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07273 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from denmark.it.earthlink.net (denmark-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.22]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA23166 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from 154.11.115.199 (ip228.ottawa2.dialup.canada.psi.net [154.11.115.228]) by denmark.it.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA09118; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 19:50:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <34BED99C.5617@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:53:00 -0500 From: Timon LeDain Reply-To: ticom@earthlink.net Organization: TICOM Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: davew@well.com CC: CraigR3@worldnet.att.net Subject: Re: EKG serial device on a Mac References: <3497F453.649A@worldnet.att.net> <34990A8B.4149@earthlink.net> <3499806F.3DC8@worldnet.att.net> <34B7E2E8.7E29@earthlink.net> <34BA926B.367A@worldnet.att.net> <34BB7640.B10@earthlink.net> <34BB96AF.7705@worldnet.att.net> <34BBB85A.4EDF@earthlink.net> <34BDA2F9.435C@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: 65b7c178f6b8f0f87ead5e45d80f2b47 Status: RO X-Status: A Hi Dave, I have been in e-mail contact with Craig and have offered to look at helping him get NEAT tools working on his Macintosh. He told me that I might be able to get hold of a THG device from you for trying the setup here in Ottawa. Are you also the person to contact regarding porting source code over to the Mac platform? We have been working with EyeCan here in Ottawa, makers of the VisionKey system, which is a revolutionary input device controlled through eye movement alone. This portable device allows users to control their computer and compose letters, e-mails, etc. by simply looking at the characters they want to send. TICOM has provided them with the AccessMac solution which allows Macintosh users to seamlessly interface the VisionKey to their computers and use it with all of their favourite applications. Looking forward to your reply, Sincerely, Timon LeDain President TICOM Inc. From janzoo@yahoo.com Thu Jan 15 20:07:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10755 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from send1b.yahoomail.com (send1b.yahoomail.com [205.180.60.23]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA28076 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:08:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980116040747.15715.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> Received: from [209.68.195.31] by send1b; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:07:47 PST Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:07:47 -0800 (PST) From: janzoo Subject: hotels To: davew@well.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-UIDL: ca7acd03d8a937d48ece830afe53f566 Status: RO X-Status: Here is a list of hotels.... I cannot speak on price nor quailty. Omni 800-843-6664 Embassy Suites 619-239-2400 two room suites... 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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From karen@amainc.com Thu Jan 15 20:18:01 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12875 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA01162 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA10299 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 22:18:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from esc-ca3-24.ix.netcom.com(204.32.159.120) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma010275; Thu Jan 15 22:18:10 1998 X-Sender: morgan@amainc.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:18:01 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: "Karen S. Morgan" Subject: Re: Audio/visual X-UIDL: 956d7b75e13e548e59a8ffa0a613ab68 Status: RO X-Status: > >i know some one who is comming to mmvr right after the spie conf this >year...can get insight >davew Make sure I get to talk to him/her. OK? Thanks From CraigR3@worldnet.att.net Thu Jan 15 20:50:53 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18494 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA08886 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [12.64.176.34] by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA26849 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:50:14 +0000 Message-ID: <34BEE72C.6AA9@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:50:53 -0800 From: "Craig N. Robinson" Reply-To: CraigR3@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: MMVR VI & NEATTools References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: fd2020873dc8413f973ea9b9d763ff83 Status: RO X-Status: A Looking forward to it. Am running NEATTools on my PC under '95 and it is working well (rNEAT won't work because of the sound card). Potential of NEATTools seems enormous, but I can't get it to recognize THG as I have done with NEAT .14 and .22. Ready to learn. =) Craig P.S. You're an interface wizard, what ever turned you off about Macs? From CraigR3@worldnet.att.net Thu Jan 15 20:55:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19102 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA09670 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:55:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [12.64.176.34] by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA2577 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:55:08 +0000 Message-ID: <34BEE852.608E@worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:55:47 -0800 From: "Craig N. Robinson" Reply-To: CraigR3@worldnet.att.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: EKG serial device on a Mac References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: e9f0ce54830889b954fe4483be0639d1 Status: RO X-Status: Hey Dave, just got the carbon copy, thanks for responding to Timon. Will look forward to his reply. Cheers, Craig From wavz@intr.net Fri Jan 16 01:59:51 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA06990 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from sheldon.intr.net (sheldon.intr.net [207.32.89.4]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id XAA04901 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from intr.net (164.dua1-1.intr.net [207.32.94.164]) by sheldon.intr.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA06272 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:55:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34BF0567.15842DD6@intr.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:59:51 -0500 From: wavz research X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dave Warner Subject: Re: adventures References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-UIDL: d9df15ab5746a5874490500b47c76c65 Status: RO X-Status: A not just bummer, major bummer to me ;-) only my mother could interfere with my chance to spend time with you dave !! im serious, i was so psyched.... but... small price since she brought me here.. gin couldnt get off early today, so we're jammin in the am... (in a few hours.. thank god shes driving...) sooner than later... k Dave Warner wrote: > bummer on bolting south > no problem > > had productive day at darpa > davew From CraigR3@worldnet.att.net Fri Jan 16 07:58:34 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA08590 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:58:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.33]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id HAA08143 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:58:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [12.64.176.188] by mtigwc04.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA14378 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:57:55 +0000 Message-ID: <34BF83AA.1308@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 07:58:34 -0800 From: "Craig N. 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From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Sat Jan 17 00:02:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA29758 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id AAA06000 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeffsale.san.rr.com (dt0d0ne9.san.rr.com [204.210.56.233]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with SMTP id AAA19914 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:00:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980117000200.006ab610@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:02:12 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: Jeff Sale Subject: Re: Tutorial update and fees for services Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: 45f37f41e2504c674019de897ca29324 Status: RO X-Status: A At 06:23 PM 1/15/98 -0800, Dave Warner wrote: >hey dude > >had a very productive meeting with the evil ones...here in dc > >got confirmation on $'s for bot-masters > >money by july.....lots of money...evil dark money.... >feeling my soul slipping.... > >sudden urge to kill small helpless creatures.....(evil laugh) > >no really > >project to develop better way to detect landmines is "nobel" as in prize > Dearest Dave, >project to develop better way to detect landmines is "nobel" as in prize We can dream, but I'm afraid the land mine issue has already received the sole Nobel Prize it's likely to. I also have my doubts that anyone working for or with Darpa stands much of a chance of a peace prize regardless of the nobility of the endeavor. Sorry to be a fuddy dud as usual, but you sounded a bit too dreamy, like you really are believing such things. I'm probably wrong, but just in case. I agree that it's a good thing to find land mines, but motives vary, and Darpa's is likely much different than those of that Mom who was co-winner. The US was one of only two countries in the world to not support the global ban a couple of months ago. Keep your perspective on what you're doing, bud. 'Tis better to not lay them in the first place than to spend millions trying to find them. I know you hate it when I do this, but it's part of my job. I'm sorry, I've had a rough day, and I'm still straight, and it's all your fault. :-) I had a hard time with Katie tonight, too. Your message was really funny, so I'm sure you're just kidding. Forget I said anything (but just in case, I'll keep this message intact). jeff Jeff From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Sat Jan 17 16:20:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16587 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from sunstroke.sdsu.edu (root@sunstroke.sdsu.edu [130.191.226.1]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA22826 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:18:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from jeffsale.san.rr.com (dt0d0ne9.san.rr.com [204.210.56.233]) by sunstroke.sdsu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SCEC-8.8.8-S4) with SMTP id QAA06620 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:18:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980117162025.006a64e4@sunstroke.sdsu.edu> X-Sender: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:20:27 -0800 To: Dave Warner From: Jeff Sale Subject: Life marches on... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: 30949b6d82d289b98baf672b85f18ec8 Status: RO X-Status: A >take your meds Can I bum some? >of course i was kidding >sorry about having a rough day... >and in spite of you paranoid view of all that i do >i will continue to believe that i can do more good thea they can do evil I believe you can too. I strongly support what you're doing, because I know that you have smart people like me keeping an eye on you. You're still my hero. >like turnig grokbox money into neattools and helping the disabled kids >in the local schools ...which is actually happening right on, dude! >dave 1 >darpa 0 >im not content to just whine about things that i dont like... >(cheep shot) You're still sounding like you don't get my point. My fingers are numb from doing the work that I'm doing (well, one of them at least), and I'm not just working for you, either. You know very little about what I'm doing for the Sarvodaya Shramadana Movement (do a search) because I get the impression you're not that interested in peaceful movements of service and volunteerism anymore (or at least it's tough to get a word in edgewise when we're together). I'm not just whining. I musta hit a nerve to cause you to take a cheap shot. >kinda of surprised that you only focused on the bad things and did not >reenforce anything positive... I reinforce the positive when given the chance, but that message was just asking for a more "rational", if somewhat negative, perspective. Anyway, I still blame it mostly on a bad day. Let's get on with the fun stuff. Today's a better day, and I'm rootin' for ya. Dave infinity Darpa 0 See ya bud. Oh yeah, take a look at the latest rev: http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Jeff/neat/ From sjones@darpa.mil Sat Jan 17 20:52:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27700 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:52:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from snap.org (charm.snap.org [192.5.18.230]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id RAA10097 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:52:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadow.darpa.mil by snap.org (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id UAA10586; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:53:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from msx-smtp2.darpa.mil (msx-smtp2.darpa.mil [158.63.2.67]) by shadow.darpa.mil (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA16103 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:49:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by msx-smtp2.darpa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:51:46 -0500 Message-ID: <9109EA1DC959D011A46808002BB9FF96B320C8@MSX-3> From: sjones To: "'Dave Warner'" Subject: FW: Everest-Yale Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:52:10 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-UIDL: caa5c42ee57513e9cc9168bf2c7d47b0 Status: RO X-Status: A Thought you might know someone.... ---------- From: Richard Satava, MD[SMTP:richard.satava@yale.edu] Sent: Friday, January 16, 1998 3:07 PM To: sjones Subject: Everest-Yale Shaun Here is the flyer on the expedition. Truly extraordinary. We are inviting sponsors, unfortunately have a short leash (need to know something in next 1-2 weeks) Rick ********************************** Yale University - NASA Commercial Space Center for Medical Informatics and Technology Applications and MIT Media Lab Everest Extreme Expedition (E3) In May, 1996 eight climbers died during the assault of Mount Everest summit. The MIT Media Lab and Yale University - NASA Commercial Space Center for Medical Informatics and Technology Applications (CSC/MITA) is conducting an Everest Extreme Expedition to put in place a telemedicine support on Mount Everest for the climbing season of 1998. The purpose is both humanitarian (medical support of climbers from the Base Camp) and scientific validation of the latest advanced medical technologies which are being developed through the Media Lab and the CSC/MITA in conjunction with NASA and DARPA. These technologies include the following: 1) Personnel Status Monitors or PSM (vital signs and GPS monitors worn by each climber) and miniature head camera. These will be used to send to the base camp the view of the climbers, as well as a continuous update of the climber's health, vital signs and position. 2) Life Support for Trauma and Transport (LSTAT), an entire intensive care unit (ICU) which has been miniaturized and embedded into a stretcher to provide emergency care at the Base Camp and 3) Portable 3-D tele-ultrasound system to have images of any injuries that would occur and transmit them back to a physician at Yale University. It is through the use of these high technology capabilities that we hope to reduce the risk to the climbers and prevent any casualties during this season's assault. This expedition is collaborating with the 1998 American Mount Everest Expedition of Brad Washburn, with expeditionary leader Wally Berg and one of the most experienced group of Everest climbers. At the standard Base Camp at 18,000 ft, the telemedicine center will be established, connected to Yale University School of Medicine for consultation. While the climbers are on Mount Everest, they will be wearing the PSM and head camera - the view which they are seeing will be overlaid with their continuous position and vital signs and this will be transmitted to the Base Camp, with relay to Yale University. Scientific data on climber performance and endurance, physiologic status, effects of extreme exertion, hypoxia and cold for climbers, Sherpas and expeditionary members will be collected, analyzed and used to further our knowledge base of human performance in extreme environments. The expedition has the support of the American Alpine Club, flag status from the Explorer's Club, and is receiving consideration by National Geographic. In addition, at the TEDMED2 Conference in Charleston, SC during the May 13-16, 1998 timeframe, the following will be coordinated. The researchers who developed the above advanced medical devices will present their revolutionary technologies. These remarkable devices and systems will be exhibited for attendees to see, feel and demonstrate. Then, in real time from Mount Everest, live broadcast of the climbers, what they are seeing, their continuous vital signs and their exact position will be transmitted to the audience. In addition the Base Camp physician will conduct a full tour of the Base Camp, showing these technologies as they are being used. Moderating this extraordinary session will be Nightline commentator Forrest Sawyer. From sjones@darpa.mil Sat Jan 17 21:20:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147]) by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01006 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from snap.org (charm.snap.org [192.5.18.230]) by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP id SAA15130 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:20:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from shadow.darpa.mil by snap.org (8.8.5/SMI-4.1) id VAA11112; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:21:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from msx-smtp2.darpa.mil (msx-smtp2.darpa.mil [158.63.2.67]) by shadow.darpa.mil (8.7.6/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA16720 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:17:53 -0500 (EST) Received: by msx-smtp2.darpa.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:20:04 -0500 Message-ID: <9109EA1DC959D011A46808002BB9FF96B320D7@MSX-3> From: sjones To: "'Dave Warner'" Subject: FW: Abgenix Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 21:20:29 -0500 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-UIDL: 9b3d8ca076f8dba2c561e27bffa3bc15 Status: RO X-Status: A In addition to the stuff we talked about, I will need to be able to either post or spam to all with access or diesgnated related offers of help for the PIs to devour...below is an example. It would also be useful to post article of interest to the PIs and of course they to each other or moi, as well as updates to me only on the progress of their projects. Just before the PI meeting I could open up certain compartments to specified attendees and hopefully this would facilitate more abrupt presentations, better questions, deeper discussions etc. Thanks S ---------- From: Davis, Geoffrey[SMTP:davis_g@abgenix.com] Sent: Friday, October 17, 1997 2:39 PM To: sjones Subject: Abgenix Commander Jones: I was referred to you by Lt. Col. Jerry Jennings at USAMRIID. In talking with your assistant (who was extremely helpful) a little while ago on the phone, I suspect I may still not have come to the end of my quest, but perhaps you can help me. What we have to offer is a transgenic mouse, XenoMouse, that is the result of seven years of research at a cost of $40M. This mouse has had the endogenous immunoglobulin genes knocked out and the human immunoglobulin genes introduced as transgenes. As a result, when these mice are immunized they make fully human antibodies rather than mouse antibodies. We now have about 1.5 years of experience with these mice and are very satisfied with their performance. We have made many high affinity antibodies to a number of antigens, including both normal human proteins and infectious disease targets. Where am I going with this? It seems to me that there must be many opportunities at DOD for antibodies that could be administered to people on an as needed, post-exposure basis and that would be safe and not rejected as foreign. Our mice provide a readily available, robust, and unique source for just such antibodies. Antigens that come to mind include biological warfare agents as well as exotic infectious organisms. In fact, we are already embarking on a DOD-sponsored collaboration with Dr. Jim Marks at the University of California San Francisco to make antibodies to botulinum toxin as well as a collaboration with Dr. Kevin Anderson at Fort Detrick centered on Ebola virus. What I would like to explore is the possibility of a more expansive program with DOD, perhaps combining the XenoMouse technology with Jim Marks' expertise in phage display. I had understood from Jim Marks that DOD recently awarded a $100M contract for the purpose of developing new vaccines and that there might be subcontract opportunities available. Is that something you have heard anything about? I am sending you an information packet on our company which included an article we published in Nature Genetics last February. I would be grateful for any guidance you can provide and would welcome the opportunity to talk with you at some point. 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Subject: Your presentation times
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Here it is,  an incredible, wonderful schedule that represents a year's
worth of being pelasantly surprised by the promptness of some senders, then
cajoling,  begging and pleading to get otherss' titles, abstracts,
workshops, descriptions, and contact info in, so we can put together a
respectable proceedings.. (Joel and Judith Lubar were the first to get in
their abstracts.) As you'll see, there are still OPEN slots in the schedule
because I expect very last minute additions to come in. Overall, it looks
like the workshop schedule is totally full, this year, with six
simultaneous tracks.

This schedule  is carved in titanium, with a kryptonite sealant.  I say
this because, while I value every speaker, it is really impossible to
change the schedule without so many reverberations that it would make a
monk meditating in a cave hysterical.

I will wait until Monday to send out the final schedule to the meeting
registrants. If you need a different time, please try to make a trade with
someone. That would be acceptable, since it won't produce a domino effect.
Otherwise, unless you were promised a time not reflected in the schedule,
the schedule in FINAL.

Let me know of any time swaps or corrections ASAP.

Also, please check your lecture, and if you are giving a workshop, also
check it for title accuracy and length.
I will also send you the meeting abstracts that I currently have for you to
check through. I hope you take the time to print them out and read them, so
you will be better prepared with questions and dialogues for your
colleagues. This will also prepare you to mention other's presentations in
your own.

Please note that it is a strict meeting policy that no commercial offerings
are to be made in any presentation. While it is appropriate to discuss
products from a conceptual point of view, in light of your topic, it is
never appropriate or acceptable to offer anything for sale, or to discuss
pricing for products you in any way sell or represent.

There will be a reception at 10:00 PM THursday for all speakers and
registrants, including a sing-along. Please try to join us to start the
warmth of the meeting flowing with a bang, in multiple octaves

Here's the schedule. The abstracts will be coming through shortly.

Warm, appreciative Regards and looking forward to seeing all of you soon,

Rob Kall

Thinking about indulging yourself in Palm Springs?
Actually, if you=92re in or considering getting into Neurofeedback, this is
the ESSENTIAL meeting to invest in attending-- to hear the leaders, learn
the basics and advanced techniques. This year=92s meeting promises to be the
biggest and best ever, with more speakers, presentations, workshops and
exhibitors than ever before. We have some fascinating new speaker,  topics
and Pre-conference events and optional multi-tack workshops which will make
you pull your hair out trying to decide which to attend.
If you Never Experienced a Winter Brain Conference: Past attendees have
repeatedly said that what makes the meeting =93wonderful=94 is the very
friendly, warm, laid-back temporary community which forms,  where old
friends re-connect and new friendships are made. The openness and sharing,
free from hostility and competition seems to get better each year. A shorts
& tee shirts dress code and an egalitarian attitude toward titles also
help. Then there=92s the power networking and extended time spent test
driving the newest technology in the exhibit hall-- with the biggest
assembly of EEG and mind machines manufacters ever assembled in one place.

If You Are a Repeat attendee: This year=92s meeting will have more panel
discussions and more speakers as well as more exhibitors. We=92ve added some
great pre-conference events you won=92t want to miss.
           The 1993 Key West  Original Meeting Vision was to create a place
where leaders and experienced practitioners could get together and share
the new ideas, techniques and findings that were giving them the biggest
buzz. That=92s still the guiding principle used to help speakers decide what
to present on.
Then There=92s Warm Weather and FUN! We always hold the meeting in a fun
tropical place, with a pool and big jacuzzi which says open late. Palm
Springs certainly fits the bill, just a hop away from LA, Las Vegas, San
Diego, Tucson and the rest of California. Make sure you get to the
gorgeousOasis just minutes from the hotel.Pre-Conference Activities
=46eb 4-5
Tools for Explanation:
The Sterman Topometric QEEG for Neurofeedback

Optimal Functioning Meeting: An Optimal Functioning Paradigm of Biofeedback

=46eb 5
Valdeane Brown, Dennis Campbell,  Dan Chartier, Adam Crane,  Frank Deits,
Tom Hawes,  Anna Wise + Michael Hutchison,  Rob Kall, Joel Lubar,  Linda
Mason,  Vietta Sue Wilson,
Neurofeedback Foundations Course Feb 5
8:30-12:00, 1:30-5:15, 6:45-10
Understanding the EEG, Its Origins, Characteristics & its Application for
NF. Joel Lubar
Alpha Theta Training for Substance Abuse & PTSD Nancy White
model & Protocols Siegfried Othmer
Period Three model of NF V. Brown

6-9 PM: Advanced Meeting Sign-up for pre-registered and on site
registrations
WS4: Jay Gunkelman  QEEG, an intro to the technique.
9:30-11:00 Free Reception and Sing-Along for all registrants of the
Advanced meeting and Pre-conferences Vegetable crudite, cheese, cash bar
available for your pleasure.


=46riday, February 6th
7:00 Rob Kall Meeting Brief Opening Remarks
7:05 Brenda K. Wiederhold Real-Time Physiological Monitoring In Virtual
Therapy
7:20  Mark D. Wiederhold Neural Networks as Diagnostic Decision Support
Tools in Medicine
7:35  Tom Collura Dynamical Considerations Underlying EEG Modification
Training
7:50 Robert Fisher Dynamical Considerations Underlying EEG Modification
Training.  Part II
8:05 Len Ochs A new look At  the worlds of Neurofeedback
8:45 Break (visit exhibits)
9:05 Rob Kall Formal Meeting Opening: Orientation (all speakers please
attend)
9:20  Joel Lubar An Evaluation of the Short-term & Long-Term Effects of AVS
(Sound & Light) on QEEG. Surprising Findings.
10:00 Gary Schwartz The Challenge of
    Medicine: Theories of health and Eight =93World Hypotheses.=94
10:40 Frank Deits Neurofeedback;The
           Ramblings of an Engineer
10:55 Exhibit Hall Break
11:20 J. Peter Rosenfeld Mind-reading with brain waves: lie
detection,malingering detection, taxonomies of deception, & false memories.
11:50 Hershel Toomim Brain Blood Flow
12:20 Barry Sterman  Issues in Topographic
          Mapping for Neurofeedback Providers
1:00 Lunch Break
2:00 Optional Workshops Begin
7:00 PM  Jon Cowan
7:15 Sam Caldwell Developing Windows Based Biofeedback Applications
7:30  Anand Akerkar Biofeedback & the FDA
8:00 Donald Bars, et. al.  Combining QEEG and Evoked Potentials for the
Classification of Various Psychiatric Behaviors: Toward Improved
Differential Diagnosis
8:15 Jay Gunkelman  Reading tasks & Lambda EEG activity
8:30 Jay GunkelmanHjorth Referencing in qEEG
8:45 Break
9:00 Grand Rounds: Paul Swingle Chair
10:40 Close evening session; consider Jacuzzi
*********************************************
WS4: Judith Lubar  Patterns of EEG Changes in Patients with ADD/HD &
Co-morbidities, including Anxiety, Depression, Passive Behavior, Chemical
Dependency & Learning.
WS4: J. Peter Rosen feld Fundamentals of neurobiology in partial
preparation for the BCIA-EEG Certification Exam.
WS4: Anna Wise The Awakened Mind - a practical & experiential workshop, 16
limit
WS2 Sue Othmer Advanced Neurocybernetics Instrumentation User Practicum
WS2 Sue Othmer Case conference & clinical decision making for Beta/SMR trng
(sugg. pre-requisite EEG Spectrum training course)
WS2 Gary Schwartz Energy Medicine &  NF
WS2: Tom Budzynski Optimizing EEG Signatures in The Elderly
WS2: Adam Crane The Processtm performance / life enhancement training
WS2: Hershel Toomim  Brain Blood Flow trng
Saturday Feb 7
7:00 Frank Ramos ADD
7:15 Michael Linden How to Select ADD Candidates for NF
7:45 Linda Mason That Brain is Attached to a Body: Treating the whole
person, not just the ADD
8:15 Michael & Lynda Thompson Interventions for ADD; Finger in the Dyke or
=46ix the Leak
8:55 Exhibit Break
9:10 Les Fehmi  A Proposed Paradigm Of Observed Relationships Between
Styles, Brain Activity, Arousal, Performance & Personal Experience.
9:50 Thom Hartman Healing ADD with NLP
10:30 Exhibit Break
10:50 Corydon Hammond The Theta State & Hypnosis
11:05 -Theta Waves Panel (Larsen, Hammond, Wall, Lubar, Wise, Brown,  &
more)
12:30 John S. Anderson Five years of NF in a Public Charter School -
Building a Base & Expanding into the Community.
12:45 Linda Vergara Brain Wave Traiing As An Educational Tool in A Public
School Setting.
1:00 Lunch Break
2:00 Optional WorkshopsBegin
        See workshop schedule below
7:00 PM Judith Lubar Examining the Multigenerational Genetic Distribution
of Dopamine Receptor Alleles in Families with a History of ADD/HD &
Addiction.
7:40 Mary Jo Sabo Neurofeedback in a Public School
8:20 Break
8:30 Surprise Entertainment
9:30 Visionaries panel-
*********************************************
S4 Joel F. Lubar Choosing the Optimal EEG Patterns for the Enhancement of
Attention &  Peak Academic Performance: Assessment, Treatment Protocols, &
Demonstrations.
WS4 Stephen Larsen  Mythic Imagination
WS4: Michael Hutchison The Megabrain Zone experience
WS2: Dan Maust Feedback Made Easy - Reduction of amplitude of the total
band in initial treatment.
WS:2 Carla Berg Nelson Hyperactive Hearts &  Minds: A Box Top for the
Puzzle of Attention Difficulties
WS2: Janet Z. Giler, Ph.D.  Dealing With The Problem Child:  When EEG
Training  Isn't Enough
WS2 Alfonso Bermea Applying NF to Criminal Offenders
WS2 Linda Mason  A Comprehensive Neurofeedback Program for Optimal
Performance
WS2 Cliff Corman





Sunday Feb 8
7:00 Julian  Isaacs What to Do When  Neurofeedback Doesn=92t Work: "EFT" -  =
A
New Tool To Boost Response to Neurofeedback
7:30 Tom Brownback  Demons, Personalities and Beta4.
7:45 Adam Crane Is There a Neurofeedback Tsunami?;  Synchrony Training
8:00 15 Stephen Larsen Neuroscience in the Eighteenth Century: A note on
the Historical Contribution of Emanuel Swedenborg
8:15 Thomas Hawes Using Technology to Access =93The Zone=94
8:45 Terry Patten The Neuroscientific Investigation of Higher Consciousness
9:00 Exhibit Break
9:20 Linda Mason Enhancing Therapeutic Neurotherapy with Optimal
Performance
9:50 Rob Kall Politics of Self Awareness/ discipline & Consciousness
10:20 Anna Wise EEG & Spirituality
11:00 Exhibit Break
11:10 Steve Wall Deep EEG Training & the Evolution of Human Consciousness
11:50 Michael Hutchison Being in the SourcePoint: Psychobiological Keys to
Exceptional Performance
12:30 Vietta Sue Wilson Elite Athlete qEEG Hot Spots & Assessment in
Performance Enhancement
1:00 Lunch Break
2:00 Optional Workshops Start
7:00 PM Liana Matulich Bob Whitehouse
7:30 Dennis Campbell A Comprehensive Performance Enhancement Strategy
8:00  Dan Chartier NF and Enhancing Golf Performance
8:15 James V. Hardt The Ultimate Peak Performers: Alpha Feedback Training
for US Army Green Berets
8:30 Open_____________
8:45 Stretch Break
9:00 Optimal Functioning Panel
*********************************************
WS4 Lynda & Michael Thompson Effective Interventions For ADD
WS4 Steve Wall
WS2: Anna Wise Theoretical Aspects of The Awakened Mind - from protocol to
matrix.
WS2: Jan Garret Finding your Own Voice
WS2: Les Fehmi & Susan Shorr
WS2 Mary Jo Sabo Neurofeedback in Public School
WS2 Dave Siever The Development of Brainwave Entrainment Technology
WS2 Franklin Ramos Neurofeedback Treatment of Chronic Pain
WS2 Corydon Hammond Integrating Hypnosis, NF and Light/ Sound Stimulation






Mon.,  Feb 9,
7:00
7:40 Alfonso Bermea NF With Court Ordered Criminal Offenders In & Out of
Jail,
8:20 "Seb" Striefel Are Different Ethical Principles or Practice Standards
Needed for Those Providing EEG BF?
8:50  Break
9:10 Siegfried Othmer & Susan  Othmer The Grand Unified Theory of EEG BF--
Implications for Protocol Development
10:30 Tom Brownback Utilizing Multiple Placement Montages & Phase,
Coherence, Synchrony & Linear Channel Combination Training  Paradigms with
the Brownback- Mason Protocol for the  Treatment of Dissociation/Addiction
11:00 David Cole & David Warner Interventional Informatics: Applied
psychophysiological Telemedicine
11:25 Break
11:45 Practice Managment & Economics Panel
1:00 Lunch
2:00 Optional workshops (see below list)
7:00 Tom Budzynski QEEG & Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
7:40 open
7:55 Carol Schneider Considerations of Right frontal lobe damage & the
Phineas Gage phenomenon
8:35 Break
8:45 Barbara A. Linde Applications of  NF for Domestic Violence
9:00 Bob Crago Complex Closed Head injury
9:15 Ellen Saxby A Comparison of 3 models of Relapse Prevention in
Alcoholism:
9:30 David Kaiser & William Scott NF  training for chemical dependency in
the context of theMinnesota Model
10:00 Elsa Baehr Treating Depression with the Asymmetry Protocol: Progress
& Problems
*********************************************
WS4: Len Ochs An empirical approach to EEG Neurofeedback
WS4 Sterman A New Approach to NF; Event Related EEG Responses
WS2 Bill Scott Using alpha theta with addictions.
WS2:Thomas S. Brownback Brownback- Mason Protocol Utilizing Neuro- therapy
with Dissociation/Addiction
WS2 Thom Hartmann (2:00 Mon) NLP Techniques for the Practitioner
WS2: Frank &  Mary  Deits Natural Learning: An Alternative to the Operant
Conditioning Model (Mon)
WS2:Sue Wilson Hot Dots
Training for Performance Under Stress
WS2 George Von Hilsheimer
WS2:Victoria Ibric NF for Chronic Pain
ws2 Mike Linden:The Complete ADD  Testing & Treatment Workshop








poster Uwe Gerlach Some milestones in the healing process & a higher
functioning of the brain"








































Tuesday Feb 10
7:00 Open
7:30 Victoria Ibric Procedures in Assessment & Treatment of  Chronic Pain;
Brief Clinical Sketches
8:00 Bob Crago A Case of Pseudo-dementia with pre-post QEEG
8:15 Paul Swingle Supplemental treatments to Neurofeedback
8:45 Lynda Kirk
A curious Case of Bell's Palsy:
9:15 break
9:00-12:00 BCIA EEG Certification Exam
     the exam takes a max of 3 hours many
        finish in less time.
9:15  Valdeane Brown Period 3
9:55 Sue Dermit Period Three, part II,
10:25 Break
10:40 Stu Donaldson Pain & Figbromyalgia; Integrating EEG & EMG
11:20 Dave Siever The Effectiveness of Brainwave Entrainment As a Treatment
Modality For Chronic Pain
11:35 Susan Shor-Fehmi  Open Focus & Neurofeedback Assisted Psychotherapy
11:50 Sheila Steele Retardation & Autism Case Studies;  Fast Response to
Since Hertz Neurofeedback
12:30 Open
1:00 Advanced Meeting Lecture Sessions End
1:00 Lunch
2:00 Optional Afternoon Workshops
*********************************************
WS4: Susan Dermit & Valdeane W. Brown Period 3 Approach to Neurofeedback:
All You Need To Know To Be Successful With Whomever (And Whatever!) Walks
In The Door WS4: Stu Donaldson Pain Fibromyalgia & NF/EMG
WS4 Julian Isaacs EFT
WS4: Jay Gunkelman Neuropysiology and qEEG. Generators and patterns of
activity; Implications for NF
WS2: Ellen Saxby Using Alpha Theta to reformat the Developmental
Process-reintegration of the Seven original tones of self structure
WS2:Thomas Hawes: How To Use Technology To Accecss  =93The Zone=94  in=
 Sports &
Health.
WS2: John Anderson Five years of NF in a Public Charter School - Building a
Base & Expanding into the Community





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good global for now

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Sent: 	Sunday, January 18, 1998 11:52 AM
To: 	sjones
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s

working on bio-tek-collab system

to confirm

assumptions

access over the internet
needs to support multiple multimedia type exchange.
needs to be able to filter access ie who gets what

one to all
one to some

some to one
some to all

all to all


need to be able to track who does what

needs hardware-software-physical location security

needs to challange user intermitently..re security


assume that we can connect to several persons in real time for "chat"

you need all access...a shaun's eye view



what else am i missing

davew



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Conference has a few items of interest....
Would like to come up with a biocontrol project that integrates you and
Tom and Karl for my program...and ETO and ITO....after you talk to Tom
let's revisit...
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s
this is schedule for neuronal feedback conf in palm springs
it follows mmvr by a few dazes

i am there 8th and 9th

just wanted you to see the integrative potontial of brain research

davew


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 11:59:42 -0500
From: Rob Kall 
To: davew@well.com
Subject: Your presentation times

Here it is,  an incredible, wonderful schedule that represents a year's
worth of being pelasantly surprised by the promptness of some senders,
then
cajoling,  begging and pleading to get otherss' titles, abstracts,
workshops, descriptions, and contact info in, so we can put together a
respectable proceedings.. (Joel and Judith Lubar were the first to get
in
their abstracts.) As you'll see, there are still OPEN slots in the
schedule
because I expect very last minute additions to come in. Overall, it
looks
like the workshop schedule is totally full, this year, with six
simultaneous tracks.

This schedule  is carved in titanium, with a kryptonite sealant.  I say
this because, while I value every speaker, it is really impossible to
change the schedule without so many reverberations that it would make a
monk meditating in a cave hysterical.

I will wait until Monday to send out the final schedule to the meeting
registrants. If you need a different time, please try to make a trade
with
someone. That would be acceptable, since it won't produce a domino
effect.
Otherwise, unless you were promised a time not reflected in the
schedule,
the schedule in FINAL.

Let me know of any time swaps or corrections ASAP.

Also, please check your lecture, and if you are giving a workshop, also
check it for title accuracy and length.
I will also send you the meeting abstracts that I currently have for you
to
check through. I hope you take the time to print them out and read them,
so
you will be better prepared with questions and dialogues for your
colleagues. This will also prepare you to mention other's presentations
in
your own.

Please note that it is a strict meeting policy that no commercial
offerings
are to be made in any presentation. While it is appropriate to discuss
products from a conceptual point of view, in light of your topic, it is
never appropriate or acceptable to offer anything for sale, or to
discuss
pricing for products you in any way sell or represent.

There will be a reception at 10:00 PM THursday for all speakers and
registrants, including a sing-along. Please try to join us to start the
warmth of the meeting flowing with a bang, in multiple octaves

Here's the schedule. The abstracts will be coming through shortly.

Warm, appreciative Regards and looking forward to seeing all of you
soon,

Rob Kall

Thinking about indulging yourself in Palm Springs?
Actually, if you're in or considering getting into Neurofeedback, this
is
the ESSENTIAL meeting to invest in attending-- to hear the leaders,
learn
the basics and advanced techniques. This year's meeting promises to be
the
biggest and best ever, with more speakers, presentations, workshops and
exhibitors than ever before. We have some fascinating new speaker,
topics
and Pre-conference events and optional multi-tack workshops which will
make
you pull your hair out trying to decide which to attend.
If you Never Experienced a Winter Brain Conference: Past attendees have
repeatedly said that what makes the meeting "wonderful" is the very
friendly, warm, laid-back temporary community which forms,  where old
friends re-connect and new friendships are made. The openness and
sharing,
free from hostility and competition seems to get better each year. A
shorts
& tee shirts dress code and an egalitarian attitude toward titles also
help. Then there's the power networking and extended time spent test
driving the newest technology in the exhibit hall-- with the biggest
assembly of EEG and mind machines manufacters ever assembled in one
place.

If You Are a Repeat attendee: This year's meeting will have more panel
discussions and more speakers as well as more exhibitors. We've added
some
great pre-conference events you won't want to miss.
           The 1993 Key West  Original Meeting Vision was to create a
place
where leaders and experienced practitioners could get together and share
the new ideas, techniques and findings that were giving them the biggest
buzz. That's still the guiding principle used to help speakers decide
what
to present on.
Then There's Warm Weather and FUN! We always hold the meeting in a fun
tropical place, with a pool and big jacuzzi which says open late. Palm
Springs certainly fits the bill, just a hop away from LA, Las Vegas, San
Diego, Tucson and the rest of California. Make sure you get to the
gorgeousOasis just minutes from the hotel.Pre-Conference Activities
Feb 4-5
Tools for Explanation:
The Sterman Topometric QEEG for Neurofeedback

Optimal Functioning Meeting: An Optimal Functioning Paradigm of
Biofeedback

Feb 5
Valdeane Brown, Dennis Campbell,  Dan Chartier, Adam Crane,  Frank
Deits,
Tom Hawes,  Anna Wise + Michael Hutchison,  Rob Kall, Joel Lubar,  Linda
Mason,  Vietta Sue Wilson,
Neurofeedback Foundations Course Feb 5
8:30-12:00, 1:30-5:15, 6:45-10
Understanding the EEG, Its Origins, Characteristics & its Application
for
NF. Joel Lubar
Alpha Theta Training for Substance Abuse & PTSD Nancy White
model & Protocols Siegfried Othmer
Period Three model of NF V. Brown

6-9 PM: Advanced Meeting Sign-up for pre-registered and on site
registrations
WS4: Jay Gunkelman  QEEG, an intro to the technique.
9:30-11:00 Free Reception and Sing-Along for all registrants of the
Advanced meeting and Pre-conferences Vegetable crudite, cheese, cash bar
available for your pleasure.


Friday, February 6th
7:00 Rob Kall Meeting Brief Opening Remarks
7:05 Brenda K. Wiederhold Real-Time Physiological Monitoring In Virtual
Therapy
7:20  Mark D. Wiederhold Neural Networks as Diagnostic Decision Support
Tools in Medicine
7:35  Tom Collura Dynamical Considerations Underlying EEG Modification
Training
7:50 Robert Fisher Dynamical Considerations Underlying EEG Modification
Training.  Part II
8:05 Len Ochs A new look At  the worlds of Neurofeedback
8:45 Break (visit exhibits)
9:05 Rob Kall Formal Meeting Opening: Orientation (all speakers please
attend)
9:20  Joel Lubar An Evaluation of the Short-term & Long-Term Effects of
AVS
(Sound & Light) on QEEG. Surprising Findings.
10:00 Gary Schwartz The Challenge of
    Medicine: Theories of health and Eight "World Hypotheses."
10:40 Frank Deits Neurofeedback;The
           Ramblings of an Engineer
10:55 Exhibit Hall Break
11:20 J. Peter Rosenfeld Mind-reading with brain waves: lie
detection,malingering detection, taxonomies of deception, & false
memories.
11:50 Hershel Toomim Brain Blood Flow
12:20 Barry Sterman  Issues in Topographic
          Mapping for Neurofeedback Providers
1:00 Lunch Break
2:00 Optional Workshops Begin
7:00 PM  Jon Cowan
7:15 Sam Caldwell Developing Windows Based Biofeedback Applications
7:30  Anand Akerkar Biofeedback & the FDA
8:00 Donald Bars, et. al.  Combining QEEG and Evoked Potentials for the
Classification of Various Psychiatric Behaviors: Toward Improved
Differential Diagnosis
8:15 Jay Gunkelman  Reading tasks & Lambda EEG activity
8:30 Jay GunkelmanHjorth Referencing in qEEG
8:45 Break
9:00 Grand Rounds: Paul Swingle Chair
10:40 Close evening session; consider Jacuzzi
*********************************************
WS4: Judith Lubar  Patterns of EEG Changes in Patients with ADD/HD &
Co-morbidities, including Anxiety, Depression, Passive Behavior,
Chemical
Dependency & Learning.
WS4: J. Peter Rosen feld Fundamentals of neurobiology in partial
preparation for the BCIA-EEG Certification Exam.
WS4: Anna Wise The Awakened Mind - a practical & experiential workshop,
16
limit
WS2 Sue Othmer Advanced Neurocybernetics Instrumentation User Practicum
WS2 Sue Othmer Case conference & clinical decision making for Beta/SMR
trng
(sugg. pre-requisite EEG Spectrum training course)
WS2 Gary Schwartz Energy Medicine &  NF
WS2: Tom Budzynski Optimizing EEG Signatures in The Elderly
WS2: Adam Crane The Processtm performance / life enhancement training
WS2: Hershel Toomim  Brain Blood Flow trng
Saturday Feb 7
7:00 Frank Ramos ADD
7:15 Michael Linden How to Select ADD Candidates for NF
7:45 Linda Mason That Brain is Attached to a Body: Treating the whole
person, not just the ADD
8:15 Michael & Lynda Thompson Interventions for ADD; Finger in the Dyke
or
Fix the Leak
8:55 Exhibit Break
9:10 Les Fehmi  A Proposed Paradigm Of Observed Relationships Between
Styles, Brain Activity, Arousal, Performance & Personal Experience.
9:50 Thom Hartman Healing ADD with NLP
10:30 Exhibit Break
10:50 Corydon Hammond The Theta State & Hypnosis
11:05 -Theta Waves Panel (Larsen, Hammond, Wall, Lubar, Wise, Brown,  &
more)
12:30 John S. Anderson Five years of NF in a Public Charter School -
Building a Base & Expanding into the Community.
12:45 Linda Vergara Brain Wave Traiing As An Educational Tool in A
Public
School Setting.
1:00 Lunch Break
2:00 Optional WorkshopsBegin
        See workshop schedule below
7:00 PM Judith Lubar Examining the Multigenerational Genetic
Distribution
of Dopamine Receptor Alleles in Families with a History of ADD/HD &
Addiction.
7:40 Mary Jo Sabo Neurofeedback in a Public School
8:20 Break
8:30 Surprise Entertainment
9:30 Visionaries panel-
*********************************************
S4 Joel F. Lubar Choosing the Optimal EEG Patterns for the Enhancement
of
Attention &  Peak Academic Performance: Assessment, Treatment Protocols,
&
Demonstrations.
WS4 Stephen Larsen  Mythic Imagination
WS4: Michael Hutchison The Megabrain Zone experience
WS2: Dan Maust Feedback Made Easy - Reduction of amplitude of the total
band in initial treatment.
WS:2 Carla Berg Nelson Hyperactive Hearts &  Minds: A Box Top for the
Puzzle of Attention Difficulties
WS2: Janet Z. Giler, Ph.D.  Dealing With The Problem Child:  When EEG
Training  Isn't Enough
WS2 Alfonso Bermea Applying NF to Criminal Offenders
WS2 Linda Mason  A Comprehensive Neurofeedback Program for Optimal
Performance
WS2 Cliff Corman





Sunday Feb 8
7:00 Julian  Isaacs What to Do When  Neurofeedback Doesn't Work: "EFT" -
A
New Tool To Boost Response to Neurofeedback
7:30 Tom Brownback  Demons, Personalities and Beta4.
7:45 Adam Crane Is There a Neurofeedback Tsunami?;  Synchrony Training
8:00 15 Stephen Larsen Neuroscience in the Eighteenth Century: A note on
the Historical Contribution of Emanuel Swedenborg
8:15 Thomas Hawes Using Technology to Access "The Zone"
8:45 Terry Patten The Neuroscientific Investigation of Higher
Consciousness
9:00 Exhibit Break
9:20 Linda Mason Enhancing Therapeutic Neurotherapy with Optimal
Performance
9:50 Rob Kall Politics of Self Awareness/ discipline & Consciousness
10:20 Anna Wise EEG & Spirituality
11:00 Exhibit Break
11:10 Steve Wall Deep EEG Training & the Evolution of Human
Consciousness
11:50 Michael Hutchison Being in the SourcePoint: Psychobiological Keys
to
Exceptional Performance
12:30 Vietta Sue Wilson Elite Athlete qEEG Hot Spots & Assessment in
Performance Enhancement
1:00 Lunch Break
2:00 Optional Workshops Start
7:00 PM Liana Matulich Bob Whitehouse
7:30 Dennis Campbell A Comprehensive Performance Enhancement Strategy
8:00  Dan Chartier NF and Enhancing Golf Performance
8:15 James V. Hardt The Ultimate Peak Performers: Alpha Feedback
Training
for US Army Green Berets
8:30 Open_____________
8:45 Stretch Break
9:00 Optimal Functioning Panel
*********************************************
WS4 Lynda & Michael Thompson Effective Interventions For ADD
WS4 Steve Wall
WS2: Anna Wise Theoretical Aspects of The Awakened Mind - from protocol
to
matrix.
WS2: Jan Garret Finding your Own Voice
WS2: Les Fehmi & Susan Shorr
WS2 Mary Jo Sabo Neurofeedback in Public School
WS2 Dave Siever The Development of Brainwave Entrainment Technology
WS2 Franklin Ramos Neurofeedback Treatment of Chronic Pain
WS2 Corydon Hammond Integrating Hypnosis, NF and Light/ Sound
Stimulation






Mon.,  Feb 9,
7:00
7:40 Alfonso Bermea NF With Court Ordered Criminal Offenders In & Out of
Jail,
8:20 "Seb" Striefel Are Different Ethical Principles or Practice
Standards
Needed for Those Providing EEG BF?
8:50  Break
9:10 Siegfried Othmer & Susan  Othmer The Grand Unified Theory of EEG
BF--
Implications for Protocol Development
10:30 Tom Brownback Utilizing Multiple Placement Montages & Phase,
Coherence, Synchrony & Linear Channel Combination Training  Paradigms
with
the Brownback- Mason Protocol for the  Treatment of
Dissociation/Addiction
11:00 David Cole & David Warner Interventional Informatics: Applied
psychophysiological Telemedicine
11:25 Break
11:45 Practice Managment & Economics Panel
1:00 Lunch
2:00 Optional workshops (see below list)
7:00 Tom Budzynski QEEG & Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
7:40 open
7:55 Carol Schneider Considerations of Right frontal lobe damage & the
Phineas Gage phenomenon
8:35 Break
8:45 Barbara A. Linde Applications of  NF for Domestic Violence
9:00 Bob Crago Complex Closed Head injury
9:15 Ellen Saxby A Comparison of 3 models of Relapse Prevention in
Alcoholism:
9:30 David Kaiser & William Scott NF  training for chemical dependency
in
the context of theMinnesota Model
10:00 Elsa Baehr Treating Depression with the Asymmetry Protocol:
Progress
& Problems
*********************************************
WS4: Len Ochs An empirical approach to EEG Neurofeedback
WS4 Sterman A New Approach to NF; Event Related EEG Responses
WS2 Bill Scott Using alpha theta with addictions.
WS2:Thomas S. Brownback Brownback- Mason Protocol Utilizing Neuro-
therapy
with Dissociation/Addiction
WS2 Thom Hartmann (2:00 Mon) NLP Techniques for the Practitioner
WS2: Frank &  Mary  Deits Natural Learning: An Alternative to the
Operant
Conditioning Model (Mon)
WS2:Sue Wilson Hot Dots
Training for Performance Under Stress
WS2 George Von Hilsheimer
WS2:Victoria Ibric NF for Chronic Pain
ws2 Mike Linden:The Complete ADD  Testing & Treatment Workshop








poster Uwe Gerlach Some milestones in the healing process & a higher
functioning of the brain"








































Tuesday Feb 10
7:00 Open
7:30 Victoria Ibric Procedures in Assessment & Treatment of  Chronic
Pain;
Brief Clinical Sketches
8:00 Bob Crago A Case of Pseudo-dementia with pre-post QEEG
8:15 Paul Swingle Supplemental treatments to Neurofeedback
8:45 Lynda Kirk
A curious Case of Bell's Palsy:
9:15 break
9:00-12:00 BCIA EEG Certification Exam
     the exam takes a max of 3 hours many
        finish in less time.
9:15  Valdeane Brown Period 3
9:55 Sue Dermit Period Three, part II,
10:25 Break
10:40 Stu Donaldson Pain & Figbromyalgia; Integrating EEG & EMG
11:20 Dave Siever The Effectiveness of Brainwave Entrainment As a
Treatment
Modality For Chronic Pain
11:35 Susan Shor-Fehmi  Open Focus & Neurofeedback Assisted
Psychotherapy
11:50 Sheila Steele Retardation & Autism Case Studies;  Fast Response to
Since Hertz Neurofeedback
12:30 Open
1:00 Advanced Meeting Lecture Sessions End
1:00 Lunch
2:00 Optional Afternoon Workshops
*********************************************
WS4: Susan Dermit & Valdeane W. Brown Period 3 Approach to
Neurofeedback:
All You Need To Know To Be Successful With Whomever (And Whatever!)
Walks
In The Door WS4: Stu Donaldson Pain Fibromyalgia & NF/EMG
WS4 Julian Isaacs EFT
WS4: Jay Gunkelman Neuropysiology and qEEG. Generators and patterns of
activity; Implications for NF
WS2: Ellen Saxby Using Alpha Theta to reformat the Developmental
Process-reintegration of the Seven original tones of self structure
WS2:Thomas Hawes: How To Use Technology To Accecss  "The Zone"  in
Sports &
Health.
WS2: John Anderson Five years of NF in a Public Charter School -
Building a
Base & Expanding into the Community







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Drop synch....Tom Ferrell/ORNL..
Sorry

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Tom Hawes ???
davew



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Any players?
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From: 	Niall Griffith[SMTP:niall.griffith@UL.IE]
Sent: 	Saturday, January 17, 1998 10:42 AM
To: 	Multiple recipients of list AUDITORY
Subject: 	Limerick Workshop

Please pass this on to anyone who you thing might be
interested. Thanks.

I hope this of interest to some members of the list -
apologies to those who aren't...

Niall Griffith
Paschall De Paor

--------------------------------------------
Computer Support for the Compositional Process

9th and 10th of March 1998

2 day workshop to be held at:

Centre for Computational Musicology and Computer Music,
Dept. of Computer Science and Information Systems,
University of Limerick, Ireland

http://www.csis.ul.ie/ccmcm


Invited Speakers
----------------
Guy Brown:        Modelling the perceptual organisation of music.
Antonio Camurri:  Interactive systems and composition.
Richard Orton:    TBA
Peter Todd:       Putting Psychology into Models of Composition.
Trevor Wishart:   Electronic Composition.


The Centre for Computational Musicology in the University of Limerick is
running a two day workshop on computer support for the compositional
process. The aim of the workshop is look at the relationship between
computer technology and computational models of musical
processes. Traditional musics are deeply meshed with structural
conventions and the use of sound. Instruments are the result of
evolutions
of preference and value. But 'physical' instruments are limited in that
not all music cannot be played on them all. The advent of electronic
technologies - sound synthesis and computers has up-ended this
relationship. Composers can realise concepts with no reference to
instrument makers. The range of sounds and the many ways of organizing
them raises new challenges for the musician and composer.

1) The range of sounds that can be produced makes the process of finding
and manipulating particular sounds potentially more time consuming and
difficult.

2) Sound production is separated from the gestural interactions involved
in playing traditional musical instruments. This means that composers
can
produce sounds uninhibited by gestural feedback - however, this means
that
production is also potentially separated from very deep cognitive
structuring.

The aim of this workshop is to present and discuss state of the art
developments in sound synthesis and computer support of composition and
their relationship to our conception of musical process and cognition.


Organisers:
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Niall Griffith   niall.griffith@ul.ie  00 353 (0)61 202785
Paschall De Paor paschall.depaor@ul.ie 00 353 (0)61 202782
Donncha O'Maidin donncha.omaidin@ul.ie 00 353 (0)61 202705

Local Organisation:
-------------------
Gemma Ryan:  gemma.ryan@ul.ie  Tel: 00 353 (0)61 202730
                               Fax: 00 353 (0)61 330876


There will be a nominal workshop registration fee of 10 Irish Punts,(5
IRP
for registered students).



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Tom not at NM....email or phone....you will enjoy.
f44@cosmail1.ctd.ornl.gov
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go it

when will meet tom f?

will meet karl at nextmed  is tom there also
dont have list with me

davew


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> Drop synch....Tom Ferrell/ORNL..
> Sorry
> 
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> Tom Hawes ???
> davew
> 
> 
> 



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Sorry D....what did we talk about that you need contacts for?
Oh, your buffer purged too..
MIPR may work...Yong working now..
Did you try the hotsauce?

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will ping him this week

you said to remind you to give me names and contact info re our 
conversation last week...

context buffer was purged...

also re the mipr info i forwarded to you...re contract in place
does that look like a channel???
davew



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Did he try the Insanity or the Ass in Space or both..


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will attempt to reconstruct through associative mem...dont think that it

is mission critical at this point...more a future synergy issue

relivent concepts were bio tek, sonny maynard, collaborative network..


on the hot sauce..
my lab slave tried it   few drops on hand then tounge...
said that it was "good" that it had a good flavor...also said was not
for 
the "white guys"...he is from india...think that he is altered by 
repeated trauma to receptors....will try on white guy...
davew



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Another dinner seminar series I am sponsoring....comments please.

1.  Quantum computing and the quantum brain.  Quantum computing proposes
to use the rotation of atomic particles to act as the gate arrays for
advanced digital computing.  Information comes in discrete chunks, as do
atomic energy levels in quantum mechanics.  The possibility of
harnessing quantum mechanics for computing offers the tantalizing
possibility of infinitesimally small and incredibly powerful computing.
At the same time, applying this quantum computing concept to neural
networks begins to offer the possibility of understanding and applying
the brain's features as a quantum learning machine.  Will quantum
computing give us new insights into the working of the human mind?  Do
these developments portend a merging of mechanical computation and human
mental abilities? 

2.  Quantum computing, DNA, and encryption.  Theorists of quantum
computing suggest that atomic-level computing offers the possibility of
perfect encryption.  Linking this to human DNA as the 'on-off' switch
for quantum-level computation could have implications for the control
and flow of information, and for the autonomy of human genetic
information. 

3.  Bioregulators, behavior, and conflict.  Bioregulators are being
researched that have the potential of altering mood and possibly
affecting behavior.  While this may offer the possibility of reducing
socially undesirable traits, it may also be used as an agent of warfare
or terrorism to instill panic or reduce fear.  What are the potentials
for applications in this area of biological science? 

4.  Cell rejuvenation (telomerase) and 'the fountain of youth.'  Recent
developments in biology point to the possibility that science will learn
to control cell differentiation and cell aging.  Applied broadly to
human cells, over the long-term one could imagine extending human life
for significant periods of time as a person's organs are rejuvenated on
a periodic basis.  There are clear implications here for population
destabilization as well as questions of who should have access to this
kind of capacity.  This session will  consider the social consequences
of increasing longevity, particularly, intergenerational conflict as
parents and children find themselves competing for the same positions or
status ranks in social hierarchies; a shift in the sex ratio in favor of
women; greater reluctance to sustain casualties in military conflicts
because of small family sizes; and shifts in voter preferences as median
ages rise. 

5.  Biosensors and the human brain.  Recent success in growing human
brain cells on a silicon base suggest the possibility of the development
of semiconducting devices that could be implanted in the human brain.  A
biosensor or computer chip of this type could offer enhanced mental
capacity in humans, and may begin to blur the distinction between the
human mind and the computer.  What is the potential for this technology?
How could it be used to increase or perhaps reduce national-level
conflict? 

6.  Networking, sensors, and global surveillance.  The integration of
sensors-perhaps even sensors built into the human body-and universal
networking may provide immensely enhanced capabilities to surveille
terrorists, arms traders, and the average citizen alike.  Consider the
possibility that drainpipes could contain sensors that pick up changes
in a person's health which are then radioed to alert a central health
center that you might be getting sick.  Combined with advances in
software that enable pattern identification across massive data sets,
the potential for widespread surveillance appears very real.  What
organizations or legal structures exist that might ensure that abuses do
not take place? 

7.  Smart materials, xenotransplantation, and a human-machine chimera.
Smart materials that are biocompatible could be created that would
replace human tissue.  Advances in the growth of human organs from adult
DNA offer the possibility of replacing damaged organs, or, eventually,
using human organs to make machines work better.  A human-machine
'cyborg' has often been represented in fictional literature.  Are these
developments on the horizon, and what do they implicate for the
development of the perfect fighting machine? 

8.  'Third brain' behavior, sociobiology, and social order.
Developments in the field of sociobiology, combined with enhanced
knowledge of bioregulators or genetic manipulation, could point us to
the ability to affect human traits that are considered detrimental to
society-aggression, sexual deviance, even shyness or prevarication.
So-called 'designer personalities' could emerge, with implications for
the organization of social grouping.  Alternatively, these capabilities
could be used to design the perfect infantry or an elite society. 

9.  Imaging, visualization, and health care.  Advances in imaging
promise to allow us to view the workings of the human cell in both
healthy and pathological conditions.  Monitoring of human cells could
potentially catch disease at an early stage, increasing the chances of
successfully treating the disease.  This brings up many questions of how
one would be monitored, how often, and who would have access to this
information?  Is it desirable to society to essentially wipe out
disease?  Does disease have an evolutionary function that may be impeded
by such imaging, monitoring, and treatment? 

We would still end the study group with the two sessions that ask
broader social and political questions.  These are replicated from the
original proposal: 

* Implications of a bio-network for global order and conflict.
Protection of individual political rights on an international basis will
surely be challenged by developments discussed in the study group
meetings to this point.  Surveillance, detection, invasion of privacy,
and personal and national vulnerability scenarios can be spun from the
impact of the science and technology we have been discussing.  In the
wake of a major terrorist act one or two orders of magnitude more deadly
that those that have taken place up till now, questions of the
boundaries of personal privacy and national networking systems will
surely come to the fore.  What are the implications of a bio-networked
system for global order, conflict, and individual political and personal
rights?  

* Social structure, community, and conflict.  Along with the potential
ability to monitor and network data on the biological, social, and
physical world comes the question of control of behavior of individuals
and groups.  Biologists have been working toward uncovering the roots of
human aggression, cooperation, and competition at both a behavioral and
molecular level over the past couple of generations.  Many of these
findings, some of which were discussed in the 1997 "New Sciences" study
group, question widely-held assumptions that social behavior has
exclusively social causes.  Increased understanding of the biological
roots of aggression and violence have important implications for how we
view the boundaries of acceptable behavior or the autonomy of the
individual actor.  As socio-biology and complexity theories reveal new
understandings of the roots of urban unrest or national and
international-level aggression, will we see, and do we want, the ability
to intervene at an early stage to unravel aggressive or destructive
behavior?  The study group can examine the way in which leading social
science paradigms underlying theories of war, international politics,
and economic behavior might have to be modified, and social action
challenged, in light of advances in these sciences


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You are clearly interested...it is a series of dinner meetings I am
sponsoring for RAND...their words not mine, with a few inputs of
course..they are mostly policy folks so steering was more than
usual..wanted to converge if not intersect biology and
information...invitees are not formalized yet....an agenda, ME?.
Yes.


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My computer froze on a 3,846 Kb Power Point file from the Air Force last week. Didn't
have all the necessary e-mail addresses in
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Dear XII Knights on White Horses --

The National Institute for Urban Search and Rescue (NI/USR) has been actively
pursuing a quantum improvement in emergency response communications at all levels of
government. This has lead to the Xtreme Information infrastructure (XII) project.
With your help, resources, and time we have now reached a point where we can
confidently prove the XII concept through a Proof of Concept demonstration at Hanscom

AFB in may 1998.

There is a great deal that must be accomplished over the next three months to ensure
your part of the project is properly integrated into the total architecture of the
demonstration. With this in mind, a technical integration meeting has been scheduled
for January 28-29 at the Warner Brothers Studios, Burbank, CA. The meeting will
consist of the following sessions:

Day One, Wednesday, January 28, 1998
7:30 am - 430 pm
Session A  Where Are We?
Session B  Where Are We Going?
Session C  Where Are We Going? (Demo Scenarios)
Open Discussion Where Are The Holes?

Day Two, Thursday, January 29, 1998
8:00 am - 3:30 pm
Session A  How We Fit Together
Session B  Where Are The Holes?
Adjourn  3:30 pm

Our staff will send you today, a copy of the XII System Architecture Application
document along with an XII White Paper. Please review these documents and be prepared

to give a 20 minute presentation during Session D of your part in the demonstration.
The presentation should consist of three sections.
Section 1. (4 minutes) What is your portion of the  demonstration?
Section 2 (12 minutes) How will you integrate to the
 XII Architecture System?
Section 3 (4 minutes) Areas of concern

The areas of concern will be systematically addressed during Session D to insure we
have a viable Proof of Concept demonstration that satisfies everyone's needs.

The results of this meeting will be placed in a Project Charter document that will
capture what was decided and what commitments were made.

These are exciting times and a great opportunity to do something of major value for
the United States. We hope you will join us at this historic meeting.
(Agenda follows on next message)

Lois Clark McCoy, President, NIUSR
Keith Lough, NEMA, XII Project Manager

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AGENDA, XII WORKING GROUP
FOCUS: INTEGRATED TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP
Warner Bros. Studio
January 28 & 29, 1998

XII ARCHITECTURE FOR MAY '98 DEMONSTRATION--PROOF OF CONCEPT  &
SCENARIOS

Hosted by the National Institute for Urban Search and Rescue, NIUSR
National Emergency Management Association (NEMA)
WARNER BROTHERS STUDIOS

Wednesday, January 28, 1998
7:30 am - 8:00 am Registration
 Warner Bros. Studios, 4200 Warner Blvd. Bldg 30

8:00 am - 8:30 am Welcome and Introductions
* Mr. Marion Guerra, Chief of Preparedness,
 Warner Bros. Studios
* Col. Keith Lough, NEMA, XII Project Manager

8:30 am - 9:15 am What's Going On?
* VADM Jerry O. Tuttle (Ret.) (invited)
 NIUSR XII Oversight Panel
* Lois Clark McCoy, President, NIUSR

BREAK

9:30 am - 10:00 am  Here's What We're Going To Do
* Col. Keith Lough, NEMA, XII Project Manager

10:00 am - 11:00 am
SESSION A WHERE ARE WE?  (15 minute ea.)
* Col. Keith Lough, Overall Project Status
* Shepperd Chao, Chief Architect, XII System  Development
* Ivar Ylvisaker, Senior Systems Integrator, DISA  Integration
* Dr. Geoffrey Fox, Director, Northern Parallel  Architecture Center, Tango
Integration

11:00 am - 12:00 noon  (15 minutes each)
SESSION B WHERE ARE WE GOING?
* Shepperd Chao, Target Architecture
* Woodrew Chao, Development Plan
* Jon Wunderlich - Network Architecture
* Keith Lough - Demonstration Scenarios

Noon to 1:30 pm  LUNCH
 In Studio Cafeteria (short walk on Studio Lot)

1:30 pm - 3:30 pm  (30 minutes each)
SESSION C WHERE ARE WE GOING?
DEMONSTRATION SCENARIOS
* Java Express Keith Lough, Shepperd Chao
* Dragon's Bridge  Col. Schenkel, USMC CWL,   Tom McVittie, JPL
* Eagles' Web  Col. Russell Peter, USAF, Force  Protection, Hanscom AFB
* Cell 13 Keith Lough, Woodrew Chao, Jay Ong

BREAK
3:30 pm - 4:30 pm  Open Discussion
WHERE ARE THE HOLES?
So we efficiently use tomorrow's time, we will use this period to consolidate any
concerns (as much as possible) and put them on overheads for the following day. We
suspect many of you will have the same concerns.


Thursday, January 29, 1998
 8:00 am Registration & Introductions
 Warner Bros. Studios, 4200 Warner Blvd. Bldg 30

8:30 am to 3:30 pm
SESSION D HOW WE FIT TOGETHER
(20 minute each as outlined in cover letter)

XII Architecture - Shepperd Chao, Optimus
DII COE - Ivar Ylivisaker, DISA
Sequent Server - Joe Nelson, Sequent Technologies
Intelligent Data Fusion Engine - Shepperd Chao
ShareNet - Dr. Tom McVittie - NASA/JPL
EIS/GEM InfoBook - Dr. James Morentz, Essential  Technologies
DISA Intranet Framework - Ivar Ylivisaker, DISA
Distributed Collaborative Planning - Dr. Geoffrey Fox,  NPAC
Data Architecture - Dr. Jen "Ed" Louie, Nautilus  Systems
Alert and Warning Systems - Ken Baechel, Community  Alert Network (CAN
Integrated Dissentination Engine & Domestic Intranet  Framework - Woodrew Chao,
Optimus
Network Architecture - Jon Wunderlich
IVIEW and JDISS - Peter Buckley, BTG
Lotus Notes - Brent Woodworth, IBM
Capt. Jeff Ribel, USMC CWL, Hunter Warrior
Major Joe Wotton, USAF, CUBE, Hanscom AFB
David Carlson, CBIRF Reach Back System, Logicom
Capt. Tim McCarthy, USMC CWL, CIBRF Scenario
Edison Lewark, Chief, Tactical Systems Branch, USCG HQ

LUNCH - Studio Cafeteria

Open Discussion Upon Completion of Presentations

3:30 pm. Adjourn



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Just an updated inquiry.

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> open file... the of button
> 
> click on sega.ntl
> 
> should see tng
> 
> if not then tng not functioning
> davew
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Hi Dave,

Appreciate the help. THG1 still works well with Neat .14 and .22 but I
can't seem to find the same calibration/recognition inside neattools --
my fault I'm sure as I have tried most of the .ntl files but still see
no THG activity. I'm looking forward to seeing it demoed first hand.

Will the exhibit be set up to meet everyone on the 28th before the
seminar?

Just curious on this one because I've loved every computer I've owned --
from the Timex Sinclair ZX81 through Vic 20, PCJr and whole range of
Macs and PCs. What is the "evil Mac arch" you referred to? Architecture?
That one would probably be Apple's fault directly as Motorola's CHRP
design did have a serial port and was much more open in it's
architecture. I have yet to make the switch from Mac OS 7.6.1 but OS 8.1
claims to be multi-threaded -- not true?

Looks like the rains may have cleared the way for sun on your arrival.

Craig


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Great, many thanks for the quick reply. I did move THG1 to Com1 the last
time I tried it but still couldn't get activity. Will follow the
directions right now. Appreciate it.

Craig


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Dear Yuh-Jye,

I definitely understand the change.  I'm guessing then that for the near
term (2-4 months) the only subsequent changes to palettes will be simply
the addition of new or modified objects.  Is this right?  I really like
everything you've done.  I still feel I've only scratched the surface.

As I've been going thru the palettes, there are some objects I don't
understand.  I know you're very busy, so whatever you can do to help
clarify these briefly would be helpful.  I've checked your NeatTools page
for some details already.  Here are the items:

Display Palette:

1. The Button and Pushbutton objects appear functionally identical.  Is
this correct?

2. I don't understand the function of the Focus Button.  It rejects any
changes I try to make to its value, and once it's depressed, it doesn't
release.  I know there must be a good reason for it, tho'.

Digital Logic Palette:

1. I can't figure out how to use the Pulse Object.  It appears to take one
input but just shows zero for any input I've been able to link to it.

I have more questions, but I'm getting sleepy.

Thanks,

Jeff

3.At 10:57 AM 1/13/98 -0500, Yuh-Jye Chang wrote:
>Hi! Jeff:
>
>  I did not make this change on purpose. Actually, it is because the way
>that NeatTools design change. In before, (Before the DLL design) I have a
>.cpp file that include all the module object hedaer files. Initialize each
>object and put them into the pallette was its job. As you can see, this way,
>I can put what ever order I want. But I could never have an external module.
>Because the header file of the external module will not be known beforehand.
>To solve this situation, I make a big change on how NeatTools preprocess
>each module. Now, the preprocess become distribute into object itself. That
>means, module register itself into NeatTools when startup or load by user.
>Then when NeatTools neet to display the pallette it call a method inside
>that object and object put itself into the pallette. It could put only one
>or 4 (like COM put itself 4 objects), or anyway it want. Now comes the
>problem, the KeyboardObj has some buttons in Control Pallette and Keyboard
>Pallette. I have to move all of it into Keyboard Pallette. And then Control
>Pallette only have 5 mouse buttons left which I think is a waste. So I move
>the mouse button into the IO Pallette. Now, comes another problem, the
>keyboard pallette could not hold so many buttons without cover the whole
>screen. So I have to spend time and add Scroller into Pallette. So it will
>become compact and not occupy so much screen space.
>
>  This is whole story. Hope you can understand why I made this change.
>
>Yuh-Jye



From grant@liske.com Mon Jan 19 12:02:31 1998
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> Dear Dave,

The name should be registered and saved.  It can't be used yet until I
get the following:1. primary & secondary server names and addresses.
2. technical contact & address.

when you get me this I can get the name transfered to you and you can
start using it.

grant

>
>
> Authorization
> 0a. (N)ew (M)odify (D)elete.........: New Registration
> 0b. Auth Scheme.....................:
> 0c. Auth Info.......................:
>
> 1.  Purpose/Description.............: support & service
>
> 2.  Complete Domain Name............: drmom.org
>
> Organization Using Domain Name
> 3a. Organization Name (Registrant)..: Janice Robertson
> 3b. Street Address..................: 10860 Pinot Noir Cir
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> 3d. State...........................: ca
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> Administrative Contact/Agent
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> 4j. Phone Number....................:
> 4k. Fax Number......................:
> 4l. E-Mailbox.......................:
>
> Technical Contact
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> 5c. Name............................:
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>
> Billing Contact
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> 6c. Name............................:
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>
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>
> Secondary Name Server(s)
> 8a. Secondary Server Hostname.......: ns.mediacity.com
> 8b. Secondary Server Netaddress.....: 205.216.172.10
>
> END OF AGREEMENT






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Dear Dave:

Two things I would like to check on in preparation for your participation in the NextMed conference next week.

1)	We have had to rearrange the schedule.  We have accordingly rescheduled your presentation for 2:00 pm on Wednesday, January 28.  PLEASE confirm whether this new time is acceptable to you.

2)	Please also confirm to me your Audio-Visual equipment needs, if any.  With this information, we can be properly prepared and assure the smoothest presentation.

If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know.  We look forward to your presentation and want you to be pleased with your participation.

If at all possible, please respond by e-mail to me within the next day or two.

Thanks very much for your help.

Jim Westwood
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At 10:56 AM 1/19/98 -0800, Dave Warner wrote:
>what do you mean your getting sleepy
>
>it is  only 10 am....or were you up all night

I drafted that several days ago and found it in my outbox unsent.  I
figured I'd just send it as is before I fell asleep again.  :-)




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Well, since your up and about, here's some cyberfood for thought, in reply
to your message of a couple of days ago.

>surfed
> Sarvodaya Shramadana Movement
>sites
>
>would be interesting to set up a web based collaboratory for them
>
>we could host it here

I agree.  I've been thinking at length about how to introduce the movement
to pulsar.  I noticed on one of the SSM-related pages a link to Approtech:

http://www.pchrd.dost.gov.ph/aptec/aafullme.html

Approtech is the Asian Alliance for Appropriate Technologies, a global
consortium of similar organizations, one of which is the Institut
Masyarakat Berhad in Malaysia, at:

http://www.pchrd.dost.gov.ph/aptec/aaimb.html

You're way better at identifying cool ways for groups like these to find
common ground.  Take a peek at these sites, do some searches, and lemme
know what you think.  I posted my idea to the sarvodaya listserv I moderate
about equipping villages with portable computing technology with
audio/video capture and a wireless internet link, photovoltaic recharging,
etc. in the interests of establishing a global cybervillage communications
and support system in the interests of sharing experiences and alerting the
world when massacres like the Chiappas or Algeria ones are occuring in
realtime, and they didn't think it was too whacky.  Consider this if you
like.  Our group has always been good about seeing the future, where things
are likely to be in a few years. 

Jeff




>would be good to see if there is a time evolution of rethortic and real 
>projects...
>
>looks like lots of good first efforts also looks like they will have 
>problems keeping n optimal map of needs/efforts/resources up to date
>
>
>
>good work on the neattools tutorial
>
>davew
>
>
>


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Hi! Jeff:

  Glad to receive your mail. These days, I am making the sample and loading
automation of the external object. Also, I have to finish my thesis proposal
in one or two weeks.

>I definitely understand the change.  I'm guessing then that for the near
>term (2-4 months) the only subsequent changes to palettes will be simply
>the addition of new or modified objects.  Is this right?  I really like
>everything you've done.  I still feel I've only scratched the surface.


Yes, you are right. I will not add any new palettes controls from now. Only
add new module or external module to the external palettes control.

>
>As I've been going thru the palettes, there are some objects I don't
>understand.  I know you're very busy, so whatever you can do to help
>clarify these briefly would be helpful.  I've checked your NeatTools page
>for some details already.  Here are the items:
>
>Display Palette:
>
>1. The Button and Pushbutton objects appear functionally identical.  Is
>this correct?
In the old version of NeatTools, module's connection ports is limited and
also do not have property modify support. So the old module would become not
so versitile. The Button will respond to user click with only one event. But
the Pushbutton will repond with repeated events when user keep it depressed.

>
>2. I don't understand the function of the Focus Button.  It rejects any
>changes I try to make to its value, and once it's depressed, it doesn't
>release.  I know there must be a good reason for it, tho'.
The Focus Button will depressed when NeatTools is on focus. This module is
useful when you want to disable or enable some design according NeatTools'
focus state.

>
>Digital Logic Palette:
>
>1. I can't figure out how to use the Pulse Object.  It appears to take one
>input but just shows zero for any input I've been able to link to it.
When the input change from false to true, it will generate a pulse output
(True event follow a false event). It is useful when user want to create a
composite keyboard event (ctrl-p, alt-ctrl-a, ... etc). by connecting the
output to the top of Ctrl and P module, you can generate a ctrl-p event when
NeatTools is NOT on focus. This way we will not worry about Ctrl key been
hold and never released.

>
>I have more questions, but I'm getting sleepy.

I am happy to answer your questions.

Yuh-Jye




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Well, jed...black gold, Texas tea.....
This is one of the projects I mentioned that was "too much" for me
according to the office bosses...
If of interest, go for it....I would prefer we wire something together
with Tom F, Karl P and maybe Sonny M and Dick U....
Best/S


Due to the possibility of transcription errors, the official CBD
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=================================================
CONTROLLED BIOLOGICAL SYSTEMS (CBS) SOL BAA98-07 DUE 020498 POC DR.
Alan  Rudolph,  DARPA/DSO, FAX (703) 696-3999 CONTROLLED BIOLOGICAL
SYSTEMS
(CBS) SOL BAA#98-07, SUBMISSION DEADLINE February 4, 1998; POC: Dr. Alan
S.
Rudolph, DARPA/DSO; FAX: 703-696-3999; URL:
http://www.sainc.com/darpa/cbs/
index.htm/.  BACKGROUND:  The  Defense  Advanced  Research  Projects
Agency
(DARPA)  is  soliciting  proposals  in  the  area  of Controlled
Biological
Systems   (CBS).   Biological  systems  have  adapted  unique  sensing
and
locomotion  schemes  in  order to distribute into environments in search
of
food  and  reproduction and to avoid predators. The ability to
discriminate
specific  signals in a complex background in a wide variety of
environments
and  to  use  these  signals to effect distribution into those
environments
currently exceeds any defense capability. The ability to passively
monitor,
influence,  or  control  in  real  time  the  distribution of individual
or
populations  of biological systems could result in a number of
applications
of  interest to DoD. The success of this effort will require the ability
to
understand  and  utilize  the sensory signalsemployed by biological
systems
and  employ the neural circuitry and other hardware used for foraging,
mate
identification,  and predator avoidance. Understanding and utilizing
signal
discrimination  methods and sensory fusion in a complex environment and
how
biological  systems  navigate  in this environment will also be required
in
order to control or influence distribution. For higher level organisms,
the
ability  to  influence  the signals through the integration of
neurobiology
and behavior in training programs such as associative learning could
result
in the ability to train a biological system to seek out signals of
interest
to  DoD.  New  methods  to  monitor  signals in the passive distribution
of
biological  systems  or  in  those  that  have  been  engineered to
respond
(through engineered receptors or other neuronal control schemes) to
signals
of   interest  will  be  required  to  build  effective  one-  and
two-way
communications  with controlled and distributed biological systems.
PROGRAM
OBJECTIVES  /  DESCRIPTION:  The  principalobjective  of  the program is
to
control,   influence,   and   monitor   distributed   biological
systems.
Applications of interest include controlling the distribution of
biological
systems for real-time monitoring of individuals or populations of
organisms
(e.g., swarms, hives, dens, schools) to seek out and collect information
in
the  environment  (air,  land,  or  water)  about  agents of harm
including
chemical  or  biological  weapons and unexploded ordnance. The program
will
explore  the  control  of  biological  systems as first warning systems
for
these  agents that will be predictive for human health risk. Application
of
controlled biological systems could include mapping agent concentration
and
distribution   in  potentially  contaminated  air,  land,  and  water,
and
countermeasure delivery or intelligence information gathering in hostile
or
inaccessible  environments.  All  aspects  of the program are for
defensive
purposes   only.   Other   applications   might   involve  controlling
the
distribution  of  pest  organisms  to  improve operational environments
for
troops.  In  order  to  accomplish this objective, the program will seek
to
monitor  and  utilize the sensory signals (e.g., chemical, visual,
thermal,
acoustic,  other)  employed by biological organisms to forage and
reproduce
in  their  environment.  We  also  seek to develop revolutionary methods
to
interface  with  individuals  or  populations of biological systems as
they
distribute  in  the  environment  that will result in the real-time,
remote
collection  of  information  about  the  environment.  The DARPA
Controlled
Biological  Systems  (CBS) Program seeks major technology innovation in
new
concepts  for  "plugging into" the signals used by biological organisms
and
utilizing  them  for  the  directed  distribution of biological systems
and
collection  of environmental information. These concepts could focus on
the
development  of  materials  or  electronics  to  effect neuronal control
of
locomotion  and  distribution, genetic engineering of biological systems
in
order  to  alter  the  signals  used  by  biological  systems  to forage
or
reproduce,  and new methods of effecting learned behavior in individuals
or
distributive  populations.  Proposals should demonstrate these new
concepts
and  potential  for  defense  applications.  Demonstrations  should
include
figures  of  merit  using controlled biological systems such as
sensitivity
(to  agent  of  interest), time of response, retention of learned
behavior,
monitoring and navigational control in simple and complex plume
structures,
fidelity  of control, and operational duty cycle of distributed
individuals
or populations. It is anticipated that the breadth of expertise required
to
achieve  these  goals may require the formation of interdisciplinary
teams.
To  assist  the process of team formation, an interactive web site has
been
established  at  URL:  http://www.sainc.com/darpa/cbs/index.htm/  to
enable
individual   researchers   and   organizations  with  specific,
applicable
expertise  or  capabilities to provide a one- to two-page
(non-proprietary)
description  of their capabilities and interests. This web site will
remain
active  from  the date of issuance of this BAA until the proposal
deadline.
Specific  informationcontent, communications, networking and team
formation
are   the  sole  responsibilities  of  the  participants.  DARPA  will
not
participate in these activities other than to provide the web site forum
to
enable  other  to  initiate  communications.  PROPOSAL
PROCESS/PREPARATION:
Interested  offerors  are  encouraged to submit full proposals to be due
no
later  than 1600 ET on February 4, 1998. All responsible sources capable
of
satisfying  the  Government's  needs  may  submit  a proposal that shall
be
considered   by   DARPA.  Proposers  shall  obtain  the  pamphlet
entitled
"BAA#98-07  Proposer  Information  Pamphlet  (PIP)"  by mailing, faxing,
or
e-mailing  a  written  request  (with  name,  address, and phone number)
to
DARPA/DSO,  Attn:  BAA#98-07/Rudolph,  3701  N.  Fairfax  Drive,
Arlington,
Virginia   22203-1714;   faxed  requests:  703-696-3999,  Attn:
DARPA/DSO,
BAA#98-07/Rudolph, email requests: baa98-07@darpa.mil. The PIP will be
sent
via first-class mail to each requester. The PIP provides the required
cover
sheets  and  forms as well as detailed information on the required
proposal
format.  PROPOSAL  EVALUATION: Proposals will be evaluated according to
the
following  evaluation  criteria  in  descending  order  of  importance:
(1)
scientific  and  technological merit of the proposed program; (2)
offeror's
capabilities,  past  performance,  and recent related experience,
including
personnel,  facilities,  equipment  and  data; (3) impact of the
successful
development on defense systems; and, (4) reasonableness of cost.
Additional
information  on  proposal  evaluation  may  be  found  in  the  PIP.
Early
submission  of proposals is strongly encouraged. Selections for awards
will
be  made  at  any time during the evaluation process. Proposals will not
be
returned,  but  will  be  destroyed.  Restrictive  notices
notwithstanding,
proposals  may  be  handled, for administrative purposes only, by
Strategic
Analysis,   Inc.,  a  support  contractor.  This  contractor  is  bound
by
appropriate  non-disclosure requirements. All proposals will be reviewed
by
Government  officials only. Input on technical aspects of the proposals
may
be solicited by DARPA from non-Government consultants/experts who are
bound
by   appropriate   non-disclosure  requirements.  Non-Government
technical
consultants  will  not  have  access  to  proposals that are labeled by
the
offerors  as  "GOVERNMENT  ONLY."  BROAD AGENCY ANNOUNCEMENT: This
Commerce
Business  Daily  (CBD)  notice,  in  conjunction  with  the  BAA#98-07
PIP,
constitutes  a  BAA  as  contemplated  by  FAR  6.102(d)(2).  No
additional
information  is  available  nor will a formal Request for Proposal (RFP)
or
other solicitation regarding this announcement be issued. Requests for
same
will  be disregarded. The Government reserves the right to select for
award
all,  some,  or  none  of  the  proposals  received  in  response  to
this
announcement.  Proposals identified for funding may result in a
procurement
contract, grant, cooperative agreement, or other transaction depending
upon
the nature of the work proposed, the required degree of interaction
between
parties,  and other factors. The offeror must submit a separate list of
all
technical  data  or  computer  software  that  will  be  furnished  to
the
Government  with  other  than  unlimited  rights  (see  DFARS Part 227).
No
portion  of  the BAA will be set aside for HBCU and MI participation due
to
the  impracticality  of  reserving a discrete or severable area of
research
for   exclusive  competition  among  those  entities.  HBCUs  and  MIs
are
encouraged to apply and/or teams with other proposers. One (1) original
and
twelve  (12)  paper  copies of each proposal and one (1) electronic
version
(using  the  software  package as stated above) shall be sent to
DARPA/DSO,
ATTN: BAA#98-07/Rudolph, 3701 N. Fairfax Drive, Arlington, VA 22203-1714
by
1600 ET on February 4, 1998. (0339)
SPONSOR:  Defense  Advanced  Research  Projects  Agency  (DARPA),
Contracts
           Management  Office  (CMO),  3701  N.  Fairfax Dr., Arlington,
VA
          22203-1714
SUBFILE: PSE  (U.S. GOVERNMENT PROCUREMENTS, SERVICES)
SECTION HEADING: A  Research and Development
PUBLICATION DATE: DECEMBER 9, 1997
ISSUE: PSA-1988
 

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301-654-5110 at 1830 EST...
What are you not in control of and that which is a major stressor
The announcement I sent is just another source of funding and I think we
could compete and win against the existing BAA folks with the team I
mentioned...
S


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From: "Yuh-Jye Chang" 
To: "Dave Warner" 
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Hi! Dave:

  Sure. But I am still working some important concept expressions. I will
keep you posted on this. BTW, Dr. Fox want a technical paragraph on
NeatTools urgently, So I have to let him reference this URL also.

Yuh-Jye

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From: Dave Warner 
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Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: NeatTools changes


>can i show this to some people to get some feed back????
>
>re thesis
>davew
>
>



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uh, when you sent me the joke on the worthless
value of women, in the subject area you wrote
Re:laurie's #.  I thought the connection was a bit
off...but sent you her phone number anyway.

hugs
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Hi again, 
 
Feb. 07,1998 
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so do i.
i like it all.


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Dr. Albert ("Al") P. Pisano
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Dear Core Technical Working Group and Friends

Please save this information and driving instructions for our meeting on Jan 28 & 29
at Warner Bros. Studios in Burbank, CA. In Building 30. Our host is Mr. Mario Guerra,
the Chief of Emergency Services at Warner Bros.

Parking is in the Franklin Parking Structure (Gate 3) at the corner of Franklin and
Olive Streets. Directly across the stress is a building marked "Security". Park you
car (if driving) and enter the building. You will immediately see the first door on
your right marked Security. Enter and identify yourself.
REMEMBER, IF YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED ME YOUR NAME AS ATTENDING, BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS
THIS FRIDAY, JANUARY 23RD, YOU WILL NOT BE ADMITTED. ABSOLUTELY!  e-mail
niusr@ix.netcom.com  or  805-569-5066

We will register and have coffee at 7:30 am, starting the session at 8:00 am. This
sounds early but many of you will be still functioning on East Coast time, so it will
already be 10:30 in the morning. For us West Coast folks, we will suffer!

We will have lunch on the studio lot both days, which is a bit of a walk. There is a
cafeteria section, and a sit down restaurant with menus, etc. Your individual choice.
We will have an hour and a half for lunch.

You have received your agendas. There will also be a tour of about 1 1/2 hrs. on the
second day--the Warner Bros. Museum, the emergency preparedness cache, and about 1/2
hour just walking from place to place. (No cars inside the studio lot). We will take
sign-ups for the tour during the first day's meeting.

There is a "roll call" for emergency personnel each day at 2:30 - 3:00 pm. We will
take a break at that time so as not to interfere with the studio routine as our
meeting room is the location of their roll call.

If Flying -- fly into the Burbank Airport. Take a cab to Gate 3 at Franklin and Olive
(about 5 miles south of the airport on Hollywood Blvd. ---Which changes to Hollywood
Way.)  or if renting a car--Hollywood Way going South crosses the Ventura Freeway and
dead ends at Olive. Turn right on Olive and Franklin is about two blocks down. Then
see Parking Instructions above. Most airports have printed driving instructions these
days. Ask for the Warner Bros. Studios. These are important guys in Burbank.

If Driving --

Via Interstate 5 to Alameda exit. Take Alameda to Olive. Take Olive south to
Franklin. You are there. Get a map in advance. Parking instruction above.

Via Interstate 405 - Go East on Ventura Blvd. to Olive exit. Take Olive south to
Franklin. You are there. Get a map in advance. Parking instructions above.

Accommodations: There is a Marriott, a Sheraton, and either a Raddison or a Ramada
near Burbank. Get your travel agent to check. Or look for something less expensive.
There is a Motel 6 in Hollywood (you'll need a car or a little more money for a cab).
Probably also a Day's Inn nearby. I'm staying at the Burbank Inn & Suites for $67.00
single.

Telephone contact - Emergency Only - 818-954-2903
This should be enough info to get you there. We can't wait to see your smilin' faces!
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From jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu Mon Jan 19 21:24:35 1998
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Thanks, Yuh-Jye, for the clarifications.

Next question:

I show a MIDI object for each midi driver I have.  If I only had one midi
driver installed, would the Multimedia palette show only one MIDI object?
If so, this is cool, but I'm not sure how detailed to make the tutorial
with respect to the many different midi drivers there potentially are.
That's my problem, so I'm more just curious about how your palettes adjust,
if they adjust at all.  (I know I could check this myself by disabling a
driver, but I'm a bit paranoid about changing anything with things working
so well currently.)

Thanks, and good luck on your thesis proposal.  Of course, they're nuts
(your committee) if they don't just give you your Ph.D. right now (don't
tell them I said that,  :-)  ), but rules are rules, I guess.

Jeff



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Dave, thank you, I do appreciate the individual attention. I spent well
over an hour before realizing that THG was also not working with Neat
..14 or .22 -- which I've demoed for others for over a year. The serial
ports were reversed and the mouse was not on the com 2 port as it was
configured to be. That and THG seems to require some sort of set up
before it works properly and then it works fine afterwards. After
getting THG back and ports switched, crg1.ntl worked perfectly. =)

It's exciting to see the new software. Really looking forward to power
demonstrations. I did buy another sound card today and it too didn't
work so maybe Creative Labs was right and I do need another m/b. Strange
that the other cards work in the same ISA slots but the sound cards do
not. Either way, it will be great to work with NeatTools tomorrow.

Thanks again,
Craig


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Hi again, Yuh-Jye,

I downloaded the latest version of NeatTools tonite just to be sure I'm
current.  I noticed that the Multimedia Palette no longer has a Record
Input Select object, and yet the MIXER.NTL file still contains such an
object.  I can't seem to find it in any of the palettes.  Am I missing
something?

I also noticed that when I exit NeatTools, changes I had made to a file are
automatically saved even if I don't select Save File or Save As.  I'm
guessing this has probably always been the case because it happens with the
older versions I still have on my machine, but I never noticed it until
now, and it could cause some serious problems if the user is not aware of
it.  It doesn't happen if I Open File or choose New File, probably because
you always ask the user if they want to save changes in those situations.
No other program I use saves changes automatically when exiting, so this
could come as an unexpected surprise, as it did for me.  Is this intentional?

Jeff



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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 07:47:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Rusovick 
To: Dave Warner 
Subject: Re: all the fun your missing
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Hey Man

Looks Good!  I am actually starting to have some fun doing this web page,
so I'm glad to not be writing some dry proposal noone will ever read much
less understand!

I took up a very different strategy for myself today (even though it is
something Jeff told me to do from the very beginning and is pretty
standard practice): surfing around, finding cool pages I like and then
taking either the whole or parts of the code and using it as a template to
begin with.  Wow, what a revelation this has been.  It seemed to really
address the rut I have been in.  Furthermore, it is really bringing me up
to speed with the most current w3w html standards.  The Macromedia web
editor, Dreamweaver, is really cool and if I just have patience it does
disclose itself.  Finally, the biggest lesson is to just start throwing up
virtually random code that roughly has what you want and then start
sculpting.  Turns out it is really the same as writing.  I am looking
forward to what I'll come up with tomorrow. 

Anyway, here is the first hit [http://s008.infomall.org/myweb/].  It is a
modest start, but I think you will be able to see that indeed I am trying
to change.  Please comment thoughtfully and fully so *you* end up with
what you need. 

Look forward to more.

peace
rik

ps I think I am getting a really good start on my screenplay as well. 

 On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Dave
Warner wrote:

> 
> this could have been you
> 
> http://www.npac.syr.edu/users/gcf/working/UUC.htm
> 
> wheeeee
> davew
> 
> 



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Hi! Jeff:

>Next question:
>
>I show a MIDI object for each midi driver I have.  If I only had one midi
>driver installed, would the Multimedia palette show only one MIDI object?
>If so, this is cool, but I'm not sure how detailed to make the tutorial
>with respect to the many different midi drivers there potentially are.
>That's my problem, so I'm more just curious about how your palettes adjust,
>if they adjust at all.  (I know I could check this myself by disabling a
>driver, but I'm a bit paranoid about changing anything with things working
>so well currently.)

Yes, the MIDI Object will show a button in multimedia palette for each
installed driver.
Some machine does not install a sound card. In that case, you will only see
a few buttons
left (like WaveFile, MIDIFile, ... etc. those module do not require a
device).
My machine has one sound card and one video capture card (with partial sound
function and mixer),
so NeatTools will display two sets of Mixer objects. The multimedia palette
become crowded.
When the device is not exist and NTL reference that device, the module in
NTL will be gray.

>I downloaded the latest version of NeatTools tonite just to be sure I'm
>current.  I noticed that the Multimedia Palette no longer has a Record
>Input Select object, and yet the MIXER.NTL file still contains such an
>object.  I can't seem to find it in any of the palettes.  Am I missing
>something?

Sorry about that, when I rebuild this portion, I miss a line. Thanks for
reminding me.
I will put it back on in next version.

>
>I also noticed that when I exit NeatTools, changes I had made to a file are
>automatically saved even if I don't select Save File or Save As.  I'm
>guessing this has probably always been the case because it happens with the
>older versions I still have on my machine, but I never noticed it until
>now, and it could cause some serious problems if the user is not aware of
>it.  It doesn't happen if I Open File or choose New File, probably because
>you always ask the user if they want to save changes in those situations.
>No other program I use saves changes automatically when exiting, so this
>could come as an unexpected surprise, as it did for me.  Is this
intentional?

There is a technical problem on NeatTools' UNIX portion, that it will crash
when I add this dialog box
in the middle of destroy windows.  Anyway, I will add this dialog box in
Windows portion and try to fixed the UNIX portion later.

Yuh-Jye





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off to get the mirror fixxxxxxxxed!
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I have all the guys and one lady booked
on US air.
Departing  Syracuse Feb. 27th 
arriving San Diego 7:10pm

Departing San Diego  Feb. 5th  at 1:00.

will that work/



 
 

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At 02:28 PM 1/15/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Skip,
>
>I might be able to help with one of your questions. you may want to look
>at the Questionnaire on Mental Imagery (QMI) (Betts et al., 1989). I'm
>sorry, that's all a reference I have on it.
>
>Barbara Rothbaum


Barbara,

Thanks for the reference!!

Skip
Albert "Skip" Rizzo, Ph.D.
Alzheimer's Disease Research Center
3715 McClintock
University of Southern California
University Park MC-0191
Los Angeles, CA. 90089-0191

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Dear Jim,

Thanks for this useful info...I'm having some difficulty getting the
"Reveal" section set up...are you sure there is no fee??

Talk to you soon,

Skip

At 09:48 PM 1/15/98 EST, you wrote:
>Hi Skip,
>
>I am looking forward to the MMVR: 6.  To respond generally to your questions:
>There is a massive litereature data base called Uncover.  I believe you may
>find it on the Internet through a search engine, such as Lycos.  It also may
>be listed under Carl Systems.  If you can't, the phone number either is
>1-800-787-7979 or 1-800-627-627-3278.  If these fail call uncover at
>1-303-7758-3030.
>
>Essentially "Uncover" is a massive library.  They have a service called
>"Reveal."  By registering on Reveal (there is no fee) you can list two,
>perhaps more, specific areas of interest.  As journal articles appear that
>approximate your areas of interest, you will be e-mailed their source, title,
>author, issue, etc.  Faithfully, at least once per week, I've been getting
>notices.  My only suggestion is don't limit yourself by identifying too narrow
>a topic.  When something has appeared to be interesting I've followed up by
>locating the article at the Boston College Library.
>It's been a great resource.
>
>If any of this is unclear or you can't reach them, let me know.  
>
>See you in San Diego; And, if you have some time I'd like to discuss something
>with you.
>
>Best regards and happy new year.
>
>Jim
>
>
Albert "Skip" Rizzo, Ph.D.
Alzheimer's Disease Research Center
3715 McClintock
University of Southern California
University Park MC-0191
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Sorry Dave

You got to give me alot more than this, please.  Remember, we need to
solve the problem you came back from orlando raging about: Can the suits
in TV land help us by seeing this front page?  I can't imagine that I am
there yet.  You had said that you were going to figure a lot of this stuff
out for this next web page.  the more user friendly these pages get, the
more time they take so I would like to to not go off on my own intuitions
and have them still not be hitting the mark.  If we can spend some time
consciously and diliberately taking responsibility for how people are
responding to our web presence, our work load and stress levels becuase of
futility will be cut way back.  Don't you think?

rik

On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Dave Warner wrote:

> checked it out
> 
> good structure
> 
> backgroung color - vomit-bile???
> 
> will wait to see more before i comment on that kind of stuff
> 
> test on many machines
> davew
> 
> good work
> 
> 
> 



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Hi hon
just got back from dealor.
They said I need whole mirror.
about $300.
Clip broken inside.
Well need to drop off.
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Hi folks,

I have a short question ? How fast can I read sensors-data with neattools
? Is it possible to get 120 times in a second a reading ?

Christian

PS: Everything is going fine, I try to connect to a "real" virtual
application and will see, if my chair works.


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Ace/Chris:  Thursday, 2/5 starting at 10:30 a.m. Alaska Daylight =
Savings
Time (2:30 p.m. Eastern) the concurrent session "Telemedicine in =
Alaska"
with the presentation from Dr. Ace Allen will discuss the recently
released, long awaited FCC Universal Service Report leveling the =
playing
field for rural hospitals-as long as they are nonprofit.  Ace's
presentation is scheduled for the first 45 minutes of this 1 =BD hour
session. =20

David Warner and Chris Budig, can we do a test sometime this next week,
Mon. Jan. 26 or Tuesday Jan. 27 at 3 p.m. Eastern Time?  We have dial =
in
tel #(700)733-1844 for Ace Allen and (700)733-1845 for David Warner
reserved.  Ace or Chris, you mentioned you have a Picture Tel system,
can you operate at 384 Kbps?  We have VTEL systems and have a MCU II
bridge that can accommodate your connection and David Warner's at the
same time.

David Warner:  What type of system will you be using and can you also
operate at 384 Kbps?  Your presentation will be scheduled the last 45
mins. of the session and should start at 11:15 am ADT (3:15 pm EDT).
Susan Favro advises there is also a second session schedules for the
same day from 1:30 pm - 3:00 pm ADT (5:30 pm - 7 pm EDT).  We will use
the same dial in #(700)733-1845.

Please confirm and let me know when we can test.

Best Regards,
Lori Eussen
AT&T Alascom =20




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Aloha from San Diego!

Way to go Peter -- office space under the University of Hawaii barely used
offices!
I begin the semester teaching Feb. 23, but as a part-time faculty in the
University of Hawaii, prefer to work at home instead of drive to Kihei.  My
class will love the "Kids Cast for Peace" project and I can assure you 1-2
interns to help assist in making the April 21st event fly.

Good -- you have Community Access access.  I was their FIRST instructor on
Maui (production) and after Marin's fancy studios, plus late nights in S.F.
for two years, it was like starting over.  They key, however, and many
congrats, is access to equipment.  HEY Rosen -- you're making hot tracks.

Had my first interview in the Hollywood Spielberg studios of the Shoah
Project/Moll-Beallor Productions.  Imagine my entertainment attorney
manifesting at the right time too!  His father was a historian of science and
so my book "Lise Meitner and the Dawn of the Nuclear Age", published by such a
straight Boston-based academic press, was convincing to him and he's
representing me gratis! We arrived in his Mercedes as a good team and the
Dreamworks studios is amazing.  I will be in L.A. for two days and fly home
Jan. 25 to Maui.

Sorry to miss you Dave -- keep in touch and let me know if you have grant
projects to write up.  Cash is so tight this year that I'm back to hourly work
and interviewed today  at a firm "EDcom, Inc." who design interactive systems
for K-12 educational institutions, districts, etc as their grant writer
(contractual basis).  Again, let me know Dave if you have ideas/proposals.

See you soon Peter and we can finish up that Adobe proposal.  I found the
cover page the day you left!

Love, Patricia Rife
envision@maui.net


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Skip,

When I set it up several months ago there was no fee.  If it seems to be
asking for a fee, I'd call the uncover number(s) I gave you and see what's up.
I think it's worth the effort.

All  the best,

Jim


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Here is some more

http://s008.infomall.org/myweb/

from here you should be able to click on the Cyberarium title on the left
of the page.

Also, I need to get a version of power point from jeff or somebody to deal
with putting the slides you referred on line; there is no version on this
computer anymore.

rik



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An update to our customers and friends on happenings at 
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BLUE SQUIRREL (ForeFront)  -  Turning Data Into Information
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Contents:
I.	Nut'n But News
II.	Special Offers
III.	Hot Tip
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From MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com Wed Jan 21 16:41:07 1998
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look at what there gonna do
http://www.darpa.mil/baa/BAA98-07

those evil bastards,,,,
davew


From jreed@mail.sdsu.edu Wed Jan 21 16:08:02 1998
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Hi Dave -

this might be a good match for your work.

Jodi

>Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:58:15 -0500
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>     RECENT "NOTICES INVITING APPLICATIONS" (grant opportunities)
>     from the U.S. Department of Education (published in the
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>       *  Improve services & results for children with disabilities
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>
>       *  FIPSE: Special focus, controlling costs of
>          postsecondary -- CFDA# 84.116R
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>       *  Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) model systems projects --
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>  Research & Innovation to Improve Services & Results for Children
>  With Disabilities (Federal Register: Jan 15, 1998 [CFDA# 84.324])
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>Purpose of Program: To produce, & advance the use of, knowledge to:
>(1) Improve services provided under IDEA, including the practices
>of professionals & others involved in providing those services to
>children with disabilities; & (2) improve educational & early
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>disabilities.
>    Eligible Applicants: State & local educational agencies;
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>nonprofit organizations; outlying areas; freely associated States;
>& Indian tribes or tribal organizations.
>    Absolute Priority -- Model Demonstration Projects for Children
>With Disabilities (84.324M)
>    This priority supports model demonstration projects that
>develop, implement, evaluate, & disseminate new or improved
>approaches for providing early intervention, special education &
>related services to infants, toddlers, & children with
>disabilities, ages birth through 21....  An applicant that chooses
>to address one or more of the [8] focus areas listed below should
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>on the cover sheet of their application.
>    Focus Area 1: Early Intervention & Early Childhood
>    Focus Area 2: Instructional Models to Improve Early Reading
>Results for Children with Learning Disabilities
>    Focus Area 3: Appropriate Services for Children with Deaf-
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>Disabilities
>    Focus Area 6: Two-Year Postsecondary Institutions
>    Focus Area 7: Local or State Child Find
>    Focus Area 8: Inclusive Schooling Practices in Urban & Rural
>School Districts
>
>    Applications Available: January 23, 1998.
>    Deadline for Transmittal of Applications: March 13, 1998.
>    Estimated Number of Awards: 36.
>    Maximum Award: The Secretary rejects & does not consider an
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>any matching funds) for any single budget period of 12 months.
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>  Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education (FIPSE)--
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>  Education (Federal Register: January 20, 1998 [CFDA# 84.116R])
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>Purpose of Program: To provide grants or enter into cooperative
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>focusing on problem areas or improvement approaches in
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>    Eligible Applicants: Institutions of higher education, other
>public & private nonprofit educational institutions & agencies, or
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>    Deadline for Transmittal of Applications: March 20, 1998.
>    Applications Available: January 20, 1998.
>    Available Funds: $1,300,000.
>    Estimated Range of Awards: $70,000-$200,000.
>    Estimated Average Size of Awards: $100,000.
>    Estimated Number of Awards: 5-15.
>    Additional Information: Information including priorities,
>selection criteria, & a contact individual is available in the
>Federal Register notice.
>
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>  New Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI) Model Systems Projects Under the
>  Disability & Rehabilitation Research Projects & Centers Program
>  (Federal Register: January 21, 1998 [CFDA# 84.133A])
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>maximize the full inclusion & integration into society, employment,
>independent living, family support, & economic & social self-
>sufficiency of individuals with disabilities, especially
>individuals with the most severe disabilities.
>    Deadline for Transmittal of Applications: March 23, 1998.
>    Application Available: January 20, 1998.
>    Maximum Award Amount per Year: $345,000.
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>this program are States, public or private agencies, including for-
>profit agencies, public or private organizations, including for-
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>tribes & tribal organizations.
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__________________________________________________
      Jodi Reed
      Pacific Bell Education First Fellow
      San Diego State University Department of Educational Technology
      jreed@mail.sdsu.edu
      http://edweb.sdsu.edu/edfirst/jreed/jreed.html
     Online Curriculum & Resources:  http://www.kn.pacbell.com/wired
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Dear Avrum,

Very impressive background, that is very much a missing link that might
help secure funding for our very successful KidCast project. 

Glad that you have connected with me and V.A.R.I.O.U.S. Projects. Please
explore our KidCast FOr PEace project. We would like to get Israel
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From dolphinretreats@compuserve.com Wed Jan 21 20:00:02 1998
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:00:02 -0500
From: Donna Brewer 
Subject: Re: IDATRA Board meeting
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Hi Dave,
        I was thinking that you were on the board -- but Dave C. says no?=
 I
wouldn't have been troubling you =

otherwise. Not that I wouldn't like to see your smiling face! The meeting=

did go well -- very productive. We are planning the Third Symposium to be=

held in the Florida Keys, at Hawks Cay Resort on Sept. 11-13th,1998.
        We also have taken on a new volunteer attorney for an
administrative position --- to handle much of the legal and other paperwo=
rk
to make us an official organization. If you get a chance to stop by Miami=

-- there's always room for you here. =


with hugs,
Donna


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I'm still here -- I was hammered with getting Jeff's "HeartSounds" program
ported to Windows95.  I spent the whole day making changes to preferences
and some of the Lingo on the director files in order for it to run on the
MicroSquash platform.  My security software on the Pentiums posed as a
confounder to the installation but as of 6:40pm I successfully have
"HeartSounds" operational on 10 Pentiums and 6 PowerMacs, this being an
edict by Dr. Werner so please forgive not responding to all e-mail.  Thanks
Dave for the URL's et al.  I will dedicate time tomorrow to view, gape, and
critique.

gils




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here's what i have reserved...

Jan. 27-Feb 4th

Hyatt   3 Parlor rooms  $139/night
        1 king room $195.00/night

Hyatt   1 king room paid for by med VR
         
J street Inn      
        2 rooms with two beds 
        in each room $145/week

Eric would like one of the Parlor rooms.


soooo i think the rooms are covered.
Do you want another J street?

mes



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From CraigR3@worldnet.att.net Wed Jan 21 18:56:25 1998
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Dave, your software is *excellent*. My THG was just a little sensitive
in switching com ports and the serial mouse was a real com 1 hog. I do
appreciate the special module for THG calibration as it was just what
the doctor ordered! Until I saw that THG1 was being registered, I was
lost. Now it's a bit like Riven; much more to explore in this code.

Looking forward to all the THG/NEAT enhancements demoed. When I first
saw THG/NEAT at Loma Linda, I knew I was seeing an entirely new
human-computer interface emerging. Both are evolving nicely and I'm very
excited by the future they offer.

Where do I find you all next Wednesday?

Craig


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We should be able to recycle some of NSF and other boilerplate for this. 
We can include some nice color figs. too. 
Sounds like a plan. 
BTW, any discussion with Corrie about SBIRs? 
Ed

At 04:44 PM 1/21/98 -0800, you wrote:
>hummm
>this could be good place to plug in smartdesk and brooke and eyal stuff
>davew
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Dave,
You're probably already aware of this but I wanted to pass it on. I did
try to register for a couple of domain names today. We'll see if they go
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From: Keven Ellison 
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To all:

Thought you all would like to know that the web is opening up 7 new
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What does this mean to you. If you would like to preserve your name for
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Greetings all...

I was curious if anyone on this list either has a copy of, or knows where 
to get a copy of G. Harry Stine's "The Silicon Gods" published by Dell 
Publishing in 1984.  

Amazon.com seems to be having great trouble finding it, and it is out of 
print.

Thanks in advance.  Just a note: it's about Flanagan's Neurophone.

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DO YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY A FAVOR AND PRINT
THIS OUT BEFORE YOU DELETE IT FROM YOUR MAILBOX!!

My name is Carl Simmon.  In October 1992, I received this bulletin in 
the mail.  Naturally, I was skeptical, but I decided to try it because I was 
heavily in debt at the time.  I had nothing to loose and everything to gain.
Even if this system worked only a fraction of what the example showed, 
I would be a success.  

Well I'm adding this note to tell you, IT DOES WORK! I will never forget
how it happened.  I followed the instructions exactly.  The total cost was
about $46.00 including postage.  I dropped the 100 envelopes off at the
post office on my way to work one day in late October hoping to earn a few 
dollars to buy Christmas presents.  The recipe I ordered from the person in
the #1 position came in about a week.  I did not think much about it after
that untill a few weeks later when my boss told me my wife had called and I
was needed at home immediately due to some emergency.  I raced home in
a panic, threw the apartment door open, what a sight I saw!  My wife was
standing over a pile of envelopes that the mailman had dumped on the
living room floor from two big canvas bags.
We spent the rest of the day and most of the night opening and counting
3,245 envelopes, each containing $2.00 each and a self-addressed stamped
envelope.  The next day we received 4,274 more.  By the time the orders
stopped coming in, about two weeks later, I had received $92,428 in cash! 
( I wonder what the printer thought when I had him print over 46,000 copies
of the recipes within a week! )  Nedless to say, I immediately Quit my job,
paid off all my debts in full, and started another mailing.  To date my
revenues are approaching $1,000,000 in cold hard cash.  Believe me, you
can do the same thing!  You can make your dreams come true.

                         PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS UP!!!!!

IF I TOLD YOU HOW TO MAKE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN
JUST 60 DAYS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SELL RECIPES
THROUGH THE MAIL FOR $2.00 EACH IN YOUR OWN MAIL
ORDER BUSINESS?

IT'S AS EASY AS FOLLOWING THESE SIX STEPS!
1.  Send $2.00 cash and a self-addressed stamped envelope to each of the
     advertisers listed below.  Send to # 1 through # 5 for the recipes offered.
     Be sure to ASK FOR THE RECIPE BY NAME.  You will need all five
     recipes to fill your orders.
2.  Order at least 100 OPPORTUNITY SEEKERS names and addresses
     on labels for your envelopes.
3.  Remove the name at the #1 position and move the other four up one
     position. Place your name and address in the #5 position.  You can make
     a new  list of advertisers and tape it over the current list or retype the
     page(s). Move the names and addresses only.
     DO NOT MOVE THE RECIPES!
4.  Make 100 or more copies of this bulletin at a print shop or copy
     machine.
5.  Fold and place bulletins in envelopes, seal and stamp.
6.  When your labels arrive, place one on each envelope and mail them.

The hardest part was finding a good company to privide a quality list of
names for me.  The ones I used are listed below.  They had millions of
names each month.  Give them a call or write to them asking for the names
of OPPORTUNITY SEEKERS!!

>Data Line
  P.O. Box 7348
  Omaha, NB 68107
  ( 800 ) 497-2912

>Avon Distributors
  P.O. Box B-11
  Shelly, ID 83274
  ( 800 ) 992-3866

>Accudata Business
  1326 Cape Coral Parkway
  Cape Coral, FL 33904
  ( 800 ) 732-1111

TELL THEM YOU ARE DOING THE RECIPE MLM



E-MAIL OPTION!!!!!
Follow all instructions exactly, except the mailing method and numbers.

1.  Using a reputable bulk E-mailing company, send out 100,000 or more
     E-mails of this bulletin.  I sent out 200,000 E-mails for under $180 using
     a bulk e-mail company.  While $180 is a bit more than the $46 example
     above, if you consider the cost per name, the value is very high.
2.  There are very good reasons to use a bulk E-mailing company.  One is
     that they have tens of millions of fresh responsive buyers in their files
      which are updated every  week. Another is that you don't have a mass
     E-mail program, don't want to spend the $350 to $400 for a state-of-the-
     art mass e-mail program and if you did, your server would not let you
     send that many at once.  Also if you send E-mails to people who want
     be removed from your list, this could represent many more hours of
     work for you. Finally, there are people out there who will flame your
     mailbox and could cause your server to cancel your service, an ugly
     possibility to me.
Many bulk e-mail companies can be found using your browsers search
function or any search engine. by using the words, E-mail lists or Bulk
E-mail. I encourage you to search this out and shop around for the best
service and priceing.

I can now offer this service to my downline associates for the very
reasonable price of $70,00 per 100,000 addresses. Large mailing discounts
are also available starting at 500,000 addresses and more.  I can take your
check by fax or mail.  If you have an interest in this service, you can
contact me at:

E. W. Enterprises
10 Crescent Lane
Novato, CA 94947
(415) 898-0638
budw97@earthlink.net

Now, Here comes the best part -- the money you can make
>     You send out at least 100 with your name inposition #5
>     10 people send at least 100 with your name in position #4
>     100 people send at least 100 with your name in position #3
>     1000 people send at least 100 with your name in position #2
>     10,000 People send at least 100 with your name in position #1

111,110 people send you $2.00 each = $222,220 in about 60-90 days!

Now just think about the possibilities if you send more than 100 by mail,
or even beter, 100,000 200,000 or 1,000,000 E-mails. You dont even need
a computer to cash in on the value of E-mail, using a bulk E-mail company.
Of course you are not limited to just one way or one mailing.  I did both the
100 by snail mail and 200,000 E-mails.

This is like a WEALTH SUPERCHARGER! ( Note: When you have
received 1,000 requests for recipe #3, you can sit back and relax. )
This is a perfectly legal multi-level mail order marketing plan.  Refer to
Title 18 - section 1202 and 1341 of the U.S. Postal and Lotery Laws: " A
product or service must be exchanged for the money recieved."  It also
takes honest hard work, but the rewards can be tremendous.  Keep a
careful account of all the money you receive and spend for income tax
purposes.

There you have it...  the secret to making thousands of dollars in just 60
days.  Read through the rest of this bulletin, then reread it again.  Think
about it -- do the math -- consider the wealth potential this holds for you.
Then send $2.00 cash and a self-addressed stamped envelope TODAY to
the advertisers listed below for the recipes offered, and complete steps
2 through 6.  Or you can spend the rest of your days wondering how close
to wealth and financial security you could have come.

Multi-Level Marketing ( MLM ) has finally gained respectability.  It is
being taught in Harvard Business School.  Both Stanford Research and
The Wall Street Journal have reported that between 50-60% of all goods
and services will be sold by multi-level methods in the 1990's.  This is a
multi-billion dollar industry!  And of the 500,000 millionaires in the U.S.,
20% have made their fortunes in the last seven years in MLM.  So please
read carefuly.  With a little work on your part, this will work for you too!!!

                                         ADVERTISERS:

( 1 )  PINEAPPLE BAVARIAN PUDDING
        Jon Williams
        5617 7th Ave.
        Birmingham, AL 35212

( 2 )  CHEESE GARLIC BISCUITS
         Errol Wilkinson
         10 Crescent Lane
         Novato, CA 94947

( 3 )  MAGIC COOKIE BARS
        Carol Weidner
        9272 Gerald Drive
        Streetsboro, OH 44241

( 4 )  FRIED APPLE PIES
       Konni Rodan
       714 Pacific Ave.
       N. Cape May, NJ 08204

( 5 )  CHOCOLATE WALNUT COOKIES
        S.P. Marcolini
        5949 Logus Lane
        Doylestown, PA 18901


YOU CAN EARN THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN 60 DAYS!!!!
This bulletin has a rare power...  It can make money for you.  Please take
a minute to read the experiences others have had with it.  Then take your
first step down the road to riches...  You will be glad you did!

In February of 1993, I received this bulletin from a total stranger.  I
ignored it.  I ignored them too.  Of course, I was tempted to follow the
instructions and see if it realy worked, but I was convinced it was a hoax.
I was wrong!  In early March, I decided to go ahead and give it a try.  I
didn't expect much because I figured if other people were as skeptical as I,
they would not be too quick to respond.  Two weeks went by and I didn't
receive any money.  Three weeks went by and the same thing - no money.
The fourth week ( early April ) I couldn't believe what happened.  I can't
say I received $200,000 like I was told.  It was closer to $100,000.  For the
first time in years I was out of debt.  It was great.  Before too long I had
gone through my earnings, so I am using this excelent money-making
opportunity once again. FOLLOW ALL OF THE INSTRUCTIONS
EXACTLY and get ready to enjoy.  Please send a copy of this letter along
with the bulletin, so together we can convince people who are skeptical
about it that it realy works.  
Jim Gibson
Philadelphia, PA

I am a skeptical person by nature.  I had received letters similar to this one
in my life. However, there was something about this particular letter I liked.
The initial investment was a great deal less than any of the others and I
also liked the fact that all five participants received, not just the person in
the top position.  Anyway I sent out 100 of these letters and hoped for the
best.  Everyday I checked my mail for a response.  Nothing happened for
the first eleven days.  But on day twelve, I received $136.00 in the mail.
On day 13 I received more and have received a total of $131,878 in the
mail.  Now that the letter I sent out seems to have run dry, I am going to
try again.  I think I will send out 1,000 this time.  I hope I don't sound too
greedy, but now that I have all this extra time. Why not?  I want more, not
just for myself but for my family.  Be good to yourself and give this a
chance to work for you too.
Mrs. Richard Allen
Washington, DC

I tried a similar program in which the cost was $5.00.  In that one, the
response was about 3%.  The first time I sent Letters with this approach,
I got my first response in just one week!  I just sent out 200 letters to see if
I could surpass the $141,236 of the last time. Good luck to all of you. THIS
REALLY WORKS!
Sally Freisch
Dallas, TX


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 Accept Our Appoligies For The Intrusion. This Is A One Time Mailing
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Dave,

I have been having problems with my account -- it won't let me mail or
save messages... keeps on saying my device is full, but i have ample room
on it... please help.

-rahul

______________________________________________

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Ackk, * (splat) foooooo
yes we go it. I'm looking into sites for virtual hosting. What are the
implications/consequences of you guys vhosting drmom.org?

At 07:15 AM 1/22/98 -0800, you wrote:
>hey.....ya'all 
>
>howdy
>
>dude (ranch)
>
>drmom.org is gotten for ya
>pleases acknowledge
>davew
>
>
>
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Dude!!  That should really help me.

>hey man the developers kit is now on line
>
>closer and closer....
>
>http://s008.infomall.org/ej/work.html
>davew



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>That call from Joe last Sunday - when you were over, apparently he went
>hiking into a deep green forest - He never calls me unless he went into a
>deeeeep greeeeen one.
>
>who luvs ya babe?


DAAAAAVVVEEEE, lead us not into temptation, because we can find our own
damn way!!  First, does Anna know about your recent scare in the parking
lot?  If so, then I don't think I can succumb to the temptation because I
value her feelings and I think she would be furious if she knew you paid a
visit again.  Even if she doesn't know, what are your feelings?  (My guess
is you're supportive.  Hooray!!).

To be very honest, I've been less than half as productive and less than
1/10 as motivated since i stopped reading (or hiking, as it were, if you
will).  I'm actually very concerned that I'm going to "fail" in this
endeavor for Dave unless I be weak again.  My reason for doing it in the
first place was because I was worried about failing if I didn't, and then
I'd have to blame my weakness.  Well I've accomplished less in the past
week without hiking than I did in a day and a half with hiking.  All else
has been pretty much the same.  I've been very happy most of the time,
grouchy occasionally, responsible always, rarely a good for nothing lazy
bum, except for two nights ago when I watched "Men In Black" instead of
working.

Am I making sense here?

As it is, I'm very proud for going as long as I have without hiking, and I
think perhaps that if I hike at least until I finish alot of Dave's stuff,
I will strongly consider not hiking again.  I REALLY want to lucid dream
again.

Dave Warner, would you still respect me if I hiked?

Eddie J.


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Dave Warner wrote:

> jojo
>
> we have a new mod develop kit for neattools
> check it out
> http://s008.infomall.org/ej/work.html
>
> this is the part ive been waiting for
> now others can build and test modules in the privacy of their own home
>

Cool, downloading it now...

JJ



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>what do you mean "still" respect you ???????

You're such a weisenheimer!!  Why you I oughta ...

That's what I get for asking!

Actually, thanks for the support.

>hey count me in

Consider yourself counted.

OK, Gils-o-roonie, can we try to work something out tomorrow during the
day?  I'd like 2 C-Notes worth, and Dave can add to that if he so chooses.
I'm not in any hurry or anything (I'm lying).

At least I went more than a week, which still amazes me.  I would have gone
much longer if it weren't for the thoughtful and supportive friends I have.

I guess I'll be working hard trying to justify this for a while.  Ah well,
that's just my lot in life ...

Thanks guys,

Ed


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hi Dave,

Settling in here on Maui. 
It's night and day compared to SF. Deep friendship hear are giving me 
the nurturing that weaving webs can never touch!

You had mentioned possibly of sustaining the KidCast office if SF 
economically speaking (about $400 month with utilities), and throwing 
some writing gigs my way.  Reality Check please? I leave here for SF Feb 
12 and rent is paid till end of Feb. I am hoping you can offer some 
subsidy as you mentioned. I will be in FLA for 2 weeks before returning 
to Maui to host the Earthday KidCast From Here. This is what the 
Kamali'i School put together for the KidCast archieves:
http://www.kamalii.k12.hi.us/KidCast_For_Peace_Project.html

I am planning to come your way (middle to end of June/beginning of July 
as you may suggest)to work closely with you in developing the KC 
environs at SigKids and Assist in whatever way you need for the 
Cyberarium/Creativity Cafe environment. i figure touching base in SF for 
May/June then heading East after that.  I am still not able to easily 
work the web as the burn out of keeping the CCafe site current still 
persists and I haven't updated anything since leaving SF. With the 
creation of the Kamilii KC pages I will need to call attention to them 
and update the KC pages on CCafe site. I figure next week I can get back 
to the Web weaving.

For now, Peace and Aloha to you my friend. Everyone is excited about 
Aprils event. I told them you would be letting everyone know what this 
Get Well Card for Mother Earth is all about when the time is ripe?

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this looks cool
davew

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Subject: Dave Warner and the Ninth Roundtable

Dear Dr. Warner,

Mike McDonald has recommended that you be invited to the Ninth Roundtable
in Multimedia to be held at the Ritz-Carlton in Marina del Rey, California,
Wednesday, April 1, 4:00 p.m. to noon, Friday, April 3.  The theme is
"Reassessing Value: Back to People."

Values are drivers of the outcomes ahead.  The panel sessions explore this
idea from several perspectives.  Session number 9 should have special
interest for you.

We've been running the Roundtable since 1990 for leaders in digital
communications and the new media.  This will be our strongest program yet.

1.  Opening Remarks  (Nicholas Negroponte)  Wed. 4 p.m.

2.  Value in Technology: The Best and the Brightest  (Ray Kurzweil, Walter
Mossberg, John Sculley, Rick Smolan, Bill Warner)  Wed. 4:15 p.m.

3.  Value in Communications:  Digital and Distributed  (Thomas Kalil, Len
Kleinrock, Bob Lucky, Bob Metcalfe, Jonathan Seybold)  Wed. 7:45 p.m.

4.  Family and Educational Values:  At the Eye of the Storm  (Bill Gross,
Alan Kay, Seymour Papert, Patrick Suppes)  Thur. 8:00 a.m.

5.  Creativity, Conglomerates, and Core Values  (Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi,
Larry Keeley, Martin Nisenholtz, Charles Simonyi, Sherry Turkle)  Thur.
10:30 a.m.

6.  Value in Communities, Virtual and Real  (Candice Carpenter, Mary
Furlong, John Hagel, Brenda Laurel, Howard Rheingold)  Thur 2:00 p.m.

7.  Value in the Network Economy:  It's Win-Win, Not Zero-Sum
 (John Doerr, moderator)
Global Electronic Commerce (Ira Magaziner, White House Internet policy)
Panel Discussion (Jeff Bezos, Scott Cook, Tony Perkins, David Shaw)  Thur.
4:30 p.m.

8.  Market Capitalization and Value Creation:  What's Boosting Market
Prices and Why  (Bill Gurley, David Liddle, Bennett Stewart)  Thur. 8:00 pm

9.  Rise of the Net-Empowered Health Consumer - and the Medical
Profession's Response:  New Health Values in the 21st Century  (Linda
Adler, Tom Ferguson, Mike Hawley, Mike McDonald,  Steven McGeady, Richard
Rockefeller)  Fri. 8:00 a.m.

10. Shortened Horizons and Long-Term Values:  Making the World Safer for
Hurry by Slowing Some Parts Way Down (Stewart Brand, George Dyson, Danny
Hillis, Paul Saffo)  Fri. 10:00 a.m.

Among others participating, are:  Paul Brainerd, president of the Brainerd
Foundation, who was founder and CEO of the Aldus Corporation before it
merged with Adobe Systems; Michael McCoy, CIO for UCLA's comprehensive
healthcare delivery system; Paul Torrens, co-director of UCLA's Center for
Health Services Management; Dan Lynch, founder and chairman of CyberCash;
Charles Conn, cofounder and CEO of CitySearch; Peter Clarke, former dean of
the Annenberg School of Communication at USC, who is now heading a national
program to bring improved nutrition to the undernourished; Robert Carberry,
chairman and CEO of CyberGuard Corporation; Hal Varian, dean of the School
of Information Management and Systems at UC Berkeley; Jeff Lawrence, CEO of
Trillium Digital Systems; J. B. Holston, CEO of NetSage Corporation; Arthur
Sculley, partner at Sculley Brothers LLC; Peter Petre, executive editor of
Fortune magazine; Pam Alexander, president and founder of Alexander
Communications; Lia Lorenzano, president of IDG; Thomas Steding, CEO of
RedCreek Communications; John Funk, founder and chairman of InfoBeat; and
we hope, you.

The Roundtable is noncommercial and by invitation only.  It is financed by
the participants themselves.  If you would like more details, please let me
know, or you can request a registration form from the Roundtable office at
roundt@aol.com.

Hope you will be joining us.

With best wishes,

Martin Greenberger, Chairman of the Roundtable





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Great, thanks.
You may get to like DARPAing..sfter the initial pain of hazing of
course....
Looking forward to the website for the PIs..
S


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Who needs lights...
I should be getting laid....
Just late night keyboard sex...
Things going ok with Yong?

	----------
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	Sent:  Friday, January 23, 1998 12:13 AM
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	hey commander 

	light's out at 2300

	davew


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uhhh, what stuff?

I'm still looking at it.  Will print out tonight and look it over the
weekend.  I would log in at home but I no longer have an ISP.  I just
received the notice for three free months with PacBell.net.  Gonna give it
a try.  I think I have a pentium  133 for home.  If I secure it and come
through with the rainforest lit, how 'bout we talk regarding a roadrunner
or CoxCableModem set up at my place 'ol buddy 'ol pal.

gils

>sure youll email me with intelligent responses to all the stuff i emailed
>you about.....i believe...ibelive....
>
>beliver
>davew





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I took a break with my favorite program....
publisher...and here was the result...

xx
me
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Dave, oh Dave, oh Dave.  We are definitely going to have to do Torrey Pines
before this one!!  Uh, you're going, aren't you?  Or do you have a hair
appointment that day!!??  :-)

At 08:57 PM 1/22/98 -0800, Dave Warner wrote:
>
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:43:12 -0800 (PST)
>From: Dave Warner 
>To: jsale@sunstroke.susu.edu
>Cc: gilsdav@sc.llu.edu
>Subject: Dave Warner and the Ninth Roundtable (fwd)
>
>this looks cool
>davew
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:53:48 -0800
>From: Martin Greenberger 
>To: davew@well.com
>Cc: roundt@aol.com
>Subject: Dave Warner and the Ninth Roundtable
>
>Dear Dr. Warner,
>
>Mike McDonald has recommended that you be invited to the Ninth Roundtable
>in Multimedia to be held at the Ritz-Carlton in Marina del Rey, California,
>Wednesday, April 1, 4:00 p.m. to noon, Friday, April 3.  The theme is
>"Reassessing Value: Back to People."
>
>Values are drivers of the outcomes ahead.  The panel sessions explore this
>idea from several perspectives.  Session number 9 should have special
>interest for you.
>
>We've been running the Roundtable since 1990 for leaders in digital
>communications and the new media.  This will be our strongest program yet.
>
>1.  Opening Remarks  (Nicholas Negroponte)  Wed. 4 p.m.
>
>2.  Value in Technology: The Best and the Brightest  (Ray Kurzweil, Walter
>Mossberg, John Sculley, Rick Smolan, Bill Warner)  Wed. 4:15 p.m.
>
>3.  Value in Communications:  Digital and Distributed  (Thomas Kalil, Len
>Kleinrock, Bob Lucky, Bob Metcalfe, Jonathan Seybold)  Wed. 7:45 p.m.
>
>4.  Family and Educational Values:  At the Eye of the Storm  (Bill Gross,
>Alan Kay, Seymour Papert, Patrick Suppes)  Thur. 8:00 a.m.
>
>5.  Creativity, Conglomerates, and Core Values  (Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi,
>Larry Keeley, Martin Nisenholtz, Charles Simonyi, Sherry Turkle)  Thur.
>10:30 a.m.
>
>6.  Value in Communities, Virtual and Real  (Candice Carpenter, Mary
>Furlong, John Hagel, Brenda Laurel, Howard Rheingold)  Thur 2:00 p.m.
>
>7.  Value in the Network Economy:  It's Win-Win, Not Zero-Sum
> (John Doerr, moderator)
>Global Electronic Commerce (Ira Magaziner, White House Internet policy)
>Panel Discussion (Jeff Bezos, Scott Cook, Tony Perkins, David Shaw)  Thur.
>4:30 p.m.
>
>8.  Market Capitalization and Value Creation:  What's Boosting Market
>Prices and Why  (Bill Gurley, David Liddle, Bennett Stewart)  Thur. 8:00 pm
>
>9.  Rise of the Net-Empowered Health Consumer - and the Medical
>Profession's Response:  New Health Values in the 21st Century  (Linda
>Adler, Tom Ferguson, Mike Hawley, Mike McDonald,  Steven McGeady, Richard
>Rockefeller)  Fri. 8:00 a.m.
>
>10. Shortened Horizons and Long-Term Values:  Making the World Safer for
>Hurry by Slowing Some Parts Way Down (Stewart Brand, George Dyson, Danny
>Hillis, Paul Saffo)  Fri. 10:00 a.m.
>
>Among others participating, are:  Paul Brainerd, president of the Brainerd
>Foundation, who was founder and CEO of the Aldus Corporation before it
>merged with Adobe Systems; Michael McCoy, CIO for UCLA's comprehensive
>healthcare delivery system; Paul Torrens, co-director of UCLA's Center for
>Health Services Management; Dan Lynch, founder and chairman of CyberCash;
>Charles Conn, cofounder and CEO of CitySearch; Peter Clarke, former dean of
>the Annenberg School of Communication at USC, who is now heading a national
>program to bring improved nutrition to the undernourished; Robert Carberry,
>chairman and CEO of CyberGuard Corporation; Hal Varian, dean of the School
>of Information Management and Systems at UC Berkeley; Jeff Lawrence, CEO of
>Trillium Digital Systems; J. B. Holston, CEO of NetSage Corporation; Arthur
>Sculley, partner at Sculley Brothers LLC; Peter Petre, executive editor of
>Fortune magazine; Pam Alexander, president and founder of Alexander
>Communications; Lia Lorenzano, president of IDG; Thomas Steding, CEO of
>RedCreek Communications; John Funk, founder and chairman of InfoBeat; and
>we hope, you.
>
>The Roundtable is noncommercial and by invitation only.  It is financed by
>the participants themselves.  If you would like more details, please let me
>know, or you can request a registration form from the Roundtable office at
>roundt@aol.com.
>
>Hope you will be joining us.
>
>With best wishes,
>
>Martin Greenberger, Chairman of the Roundtable
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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I'm glad you like it.
I delibertly did it in 
black and white.
I have another style in
color which is pretty cool.

A picture speaks a thousand words...
or so they say.

I was going to put "...someday" under
the I3 heading... and when you clicked
on it, it would take you
to you to the "real" house.

Does that castle look familiar?

XXX
me

ps
did you click on the pictures?







 

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bingo!



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how 'bout lots of sex and lots of hugs...




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Hi,

Yes, I am checking my  mail. Quincy is out. Its
to cold for me and my ankle just can't take it!!
I am going to go to Monterey this weekend.
Uncle Bob, knows a LLU guy up there and
I just happen to  mention that in  my cover letter
I am going to drop off at his office. He may not be
looking, but I am going to let him know that
I am available for employment if he is.
I will write again soon.
Marti





 

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never again;-{




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ouch!!



---Dave Warner  wrote:
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> oh no 
> am i in the dog house..
> hummm ....hey wait a minute
> that might not be that bad
> at least ill have room and maid service
> ....
> ;-)
> 
> 

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NO!!
well...........................................mabey.
.....but not like you!  I'd love to spoil you.........





---Dave Warner  wrote:
>
> hey baby
> just kidding.....they dont really have room service  (do they)?
> 
> 
> 
> 

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We'll i'm off to bed
....alone :(

xoXOx0
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MESSAGES FROM ARCHANGEL MICHAEL * LM-149   January 22, 1998
MERGING  SPIRIT WITH MATTER
Beloved masters, I bring you greetings and glad tidings from the higher
realms to assist you in these stressful times of transition and change.
Make no mistake, we are very aware of what each of you is experiencing and
the uncertainty you feel as your reality shifts and changes.  Many of you
are wondering why there is no new forthcoming information, why everything I
transmit, as well as other Beings of Light, seems to be a review of what
has already been given. The reason is this, you are not ready, beloveds.
It is imperative that you  make use of and integrate what has been given
until it becomes a natural part of your reality.  There is much knowledge
and new awareness floating in the ethers, but you must grasp it and claim
it as your own before you can move to the next level.  You must live it and
personify it.
 You, as well as humanity-at-large, and the Earth are on the verge of
making a leap into the next level of evolution, or initiation. You have
integrated and incorporated much energy of a higher frequency and knowledge
into your mental, emotional and etheric bodies, and for many of you the
status quo no longer exists.  We have told you that your year 1998 will be
a bridge to the New Age and this is true.  But for the time being you are
in what might be termed a holding pattern; a null zone of Spirit, or a time
for inward focus and assimilation rather than outward momentum and radical
change.  Each of you is at a different stage along the path, and so if you
look around you will see others to emulate, or those who can give you
insight as to what is taking place.  The expansion of consciousness is
different for each soul, as each has their own divine blueprint and
mission, or integral part of the master plan to accomplish.  You may feel
joyous and in the flow and all seems to be in order today, and yet your
perception changes radically tomorrow for your consciousness is ever
expanding into higher awareness.
Just as you, individually, move forward to the next level when your spirit
self makes the determination that you are ready, so it is on a mass level.
You are in the midst of an intense merger of Light with the darkness on
Earth, and of Spirit with matter.  Please do not put a negative label on
the term darkness, for it does not mean evil, it only means those portions
of the Earth and the souls that are existing without the Light and love of
Spirit.  Darkness cannot survive in the Light and humanity cannot survive
or move forward without accepting the gift of love that is being offered.
Perfection is not the issue or even the goal at this time, beloved ones.
You have the mistaken idea that duality and polarity on the material plane
are something evil, or to be denied and overcome.  It is not polarity or
duality that is holding you back, it is imbalance.  You accepted the
assignment and where given the opportunity to experience duality.
Polarity, or opposite forces, is a part of that process.  You came into
bodily form balanced and harmonious in your masculine and feminine natures
and in the mental and emotional bodies.  It was a beautiful melding of
Spirit with matter,  which is the state you are seeking to recapture and
reclaim.

We tell you over and over again, that you are here on Earth to enjoy being
in the physical form and to enjoy the abundance and wonder of Creation.
But it is to be in balance and harmony in all facets of expression.  That
is why the ascension process is called the narrow path, or the middle path.
You cannot ignore any of the components, or any facet of physical
expression.  You ignore or abuse your body and it begins to break down and
atrophy.  If you ignore your mind,  you remain ignorant, or begin to
stagnate and lose interest in life.  If  you ignore your emotional needs,
you begin to feel unloved and lonely.  Connecting with your Higher Self and
Spirit allows you to tap into the divine flow of primal cosmic life
substance.  This is the energy you used to build your first Spirit/
physical form and it is the energy which will help you transform and
reclaim that harmony of Self.  	Many of you are feeling an irresistible
urge to step out into the public arena, to begin to flex your spiritual
muscles, and yet feel you are being held back.  Your Higher Self knows the
proper and appropriate time for you to take that giant step out into the
unknown.  It may be that you have not laid enough ground work, or gained
the level of knowledge or expertise that you will need to be effective or
successful.  Possibly ( and this is often the case), the path is being
prepared by your guides, teachers and angelic helpers.  They will smooth
the way or, "prepare a place for you."    After you establish your vision
and make your commitment and claim victory, it is important that you allow
Spirit to take over and bring your dreams to fruition at the proper and
appropriate time.  Waiting is not easy in the physical, and especially if
the ego is in control.  Ego thrives on drama, whether positive or negative.
You are all feeling the uncertainty that comes with a dimensional shift.
You are learning to exist in shifting energy patterns, in time-compression,
or a feeling that time is speeding up and out of control.  Ask for and take
advantage of time-expansion.  This will give you a sense of slowing down
and moving gently and gracefully through your days and nights. Staying in
the "event of the now" will assist you in that endeavor, for you will be
focused on the moment.  Your mind will not be racing forward or spending
needless time going over the past. Your energy will be used to create your
desires of the moment and you will be much more effective.  Maintain an
inner focus of serenity and self-control, rather than an outward focus of
being controlled by events and the emotions of others.
In the past, we have suggested that you relinquish all the material
possessions which are hindering your spiritual growth, which possess you by
way of time spent,  maintenance or expense. Now, it is time to relinquish
the needless activities in your life that are keeping you from coming into
harmony with Spirit. What you call television is one of the greatest
robbers of time ever invented.  It is habit-forming  and insidious as a
tool of mind control.  It takes away, or dulls your senses so that you have
no desire or cannot hear that small inner voice of Spirit that is
attempting to make contact.  The word "RECREATION" - examine it closely -
re-creation of what?  How do you spend your leisure time? In needless games
that numb the mind and senses, and rob the body of physical activity. Or in
reading material that reinforces your negative, fear-based picture of
reality, or in activities which bring you only frustration instead of
satisfaction?
It is time to take a spiritual inventory of how you are spending the gift
of life on Earth.  You have an allotted time on Earth (determined by your
Higher Self), and a specific mission to accomplish.  You were blessed and
privileged  to be allowed to incarnate on Earth during this most important
time.  Each soul who abdicates their mission adds to the burden of those
Light workers who are bravely anchoring the Light.  Those who are blazing
forward on the path, smoothing the way for others to follow.
 Oh, you will not fail, my friends, you will eventually listen and come
into harmony with Spirit, that is your ultimate destination.  But, when,
and after how much suffering?  That is your choice under the laws of free
will.  It is said that "time waits for no one," and we add, the evolution
of humankind and the Earth will wait for no one.  Are you being left
behind?

It is important that you understand that all is sifting and changing
rapidly, at every level of creation.  You are being asked to stay fluid and
flexible, even to hold off in making major changes until you receive strong
signals both within and without as to what is appropriate.  In other words,
you may get an internal nudging or message and it may feel appropriate
within your heart center.  But during this time of acceleration, before you
take action, I suggest that you ask for physical validation as to the
appropriateness of the action you are contemplating.  Clear signals will be
given, but even these, at times, will be subject to change.  We know this
is confusing and frustrating for you, but please be aware that you are
taking leaps in years and decades, rather than minutes and days.
 This all has to do with the shifting dimensional changes and the fluidity
of time.  Even from our vantage point, a particular action or event
time-line may seem appropriate, only to be nullified by unanticipated
events. From our prospective, we view and gauge events by the probable
future  that has the greatest potential or carries the strongest energy
force field,  but now, changes are occurring too rapidly for this to be
accurate.  That is why it is impossible to predict the future, and why we
tell you to place no credence on those who make predictions.  We are
partners in this great adventure, and we are all forging ahead into
uncharted territory.  We are at a co-creative expansion level never before
attempted or attained, my brave ones, and you are right in the middle of
it.  It can be an exciting, exhilarating time of great joy and wondrous
accomplishment if you will just "stay tuned" to your inner guidance and
focused on the moment.  Allow your reality to shift and grow, to expand and
change direction when needed, thereby taking advantage of every opportunity
that Spirit brings your way.
We also ask you to become more attuned and aware of the cycles of the
seasons, the Equinoxes, Solstices  and the phases of the Moon. We have
asked you to meditate and radiate energy down through and around the Earth
during the time of the Full Moon.  We now ask you to join together at these
powerful times, to unify in a common purpose, that of  lifting the
consciousness of the Earth and humanity.  These times are chosen to
increase the influx of cosmic energy upon the Earth and all its
inhabitants.  As more of you allow yourselves to become the receptors and
transformers for this refined energy with pure love and unselfish intent,
the dynamic power of this energy will grow exponentially.   Envision
thousands, no millions, from every country, race, creed and color coming
together at these designated times with a common purpose in mind and heart:
Healing the Earth and reclaiming the divine birthright for all who reside
on her.
Become aware of the power of numbers, as well.  With the invention of your
digital clocks, it is now possible for your guides and teachers to use this
as a method of validating or signaling you that they are with you, or to
let you know that you are moving in harmony with Spirit. Also watch what
you call your car license plates, as this will also amaze and amuse you as
a certain series of numbers is brought into your awareness in a way that is
beyond coincidence.  I have nudged this messenger to make this information
available to you.  We will use any means available to let you know that we
are with you, helping you to move forward in the right direction.

It is critical, there is an urgency and of the utmost importance during
this phase that is being initiated, that the knowledge you all take for
granted is circulated to the masses, from the lowest to the highest.  It is
time for the next phase of awakening to begin and on a grand scale.  Not
the long, slow awakening process that most of you have experienced over the
last twenty or twenty-five years.  It must, and will be, a dynamic,
jolting, attention-getting sensation, designed to jar humanity out of its
lethargy.  To make as many as possible stop and reevaluate their old
parameters, old ways of thinking and being, and know that something is
afoot.  Something unprecedented is happening and it is time to listen,
learn and take action.  Your loving, soothing, comforting presence and
wisdom will be needed and sought as never before.
More facets of your project Starseed Earth Mission group will be made known
to you.  More parts of the puzzle will begin to fall into place as you
begin to build a dynamic, powerful, energetic work force with all the
knowledge and experience needed to fulfill the Earth's and your divine
destiny.  You have sent out the call on the waves of loving vibrational
energy and you are about to be reconnected with those parts of yourself
that you feared were lost to you forever.  This is just the beginning of
the "Welcome Home" process, dear ones, there is much more to come.
Know that we are as close to you as your heartbeat, and as real as the air
you breathe.  We salute you for your courage and commend you for your
steadfastness.  I, Lord Michael, surround you in love and protection,
always.

Channeled by Ronna Herman *STAR*QUEST* 6005 Clear Creek Drive, Reno, Nv. 89502
Phone/Fax: 702 856-3654 * Email: ronnastar@earthlink.net or: ronnastar@aol.com
Subscriptions to Archangel Michael's monthly messages: $24 per year, U.S.,
$28 Canada, or $36 Overseas, U.S. Funds only.
My schedule for 1998 is as follows: Los Angeles, Ca. Feb. 15th * Call:
Selancia * 310-450-9389
San Francisco Bay Area * March 21st Center of Attention * Call: Barbara
Bane * 916-922-5494
Toronto, Canada *April 11th * Call: Diane Matthews * 905 294-2466
Miami * May tentatively * (My facilitator had to withdraw) * This is one of
those times that I have had to stay flexible.  If Spirit wants me to hold
this event, I must have a facilitator within the next two weeks.
Boston, June 20-21 - 2 Day Intensive * Chandara & Ronna * Earth Link
Mission * Call: 978-768-9900
Nevada City, Ca. July 20 * New Frontiers & July 25th 1 Day intensive *
Katherine Stovall 530-266-3406
Chicago/Evanston, Il. Aug. 1st or 2nd * Call: Linda Parks * 847-328-4556
September - Open
October/Nov.  Tentatively * Three weeks in Australia.  Details to be arranged.
To receive a flyer, further information or to sign up, please contact the
above facilitators, not Ronna.

Hello, Dear Friends: Archangel Michael told me last November to stay
flexible and expect changes in '98, especially the first six months.  And
it is certainly happening in my life.  The seminar I planned to do in
London in June just wouldn't come together and I got the clear message that
the time was not right.  And then, Mary Ann Gibbs (who was in Maui with us)
and was planning to facilitate the Miami event, adopted a three year old
girl whose mother had been murdered and so had to change her plans.
Facilitating a seminar takes a lot of time and work and so we both agreed
that it would be too much for her at this time.  So now, the Miami event,
"Return to Atlantis", is on hold.  I feel it is important to help clear and
activate that part of our country, but if the time is not right it will
have to wait until I get a clear "go ahead."  I am learning to "go with the
flow" and know that a clear path will be opened.  I am sharing this with
you so you will know that , in some way, we are all in this together.  So
if it seems as if you are on hold, or your life is a roller coaster (taking
a sharp turn every once in a while), welcome to the crowd.  It's exciting,
sometimes frustrating, but I know it is all perfect and we'll see the
picture more clearly down the road.
Love, Light, Blessings and hugs to you all until we meet again,
RONNA

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STARGATE ESSENCES & CRYSTALS

The Stargate Essences for Machu Pichu will be ready in February. Shipping
from the USA takes two weeks after the essences are completed, so please
have your orders in EARLY so the essences can be shipped to you as soon as
possible after they are received in Europe and Australia. Please send your
order to the following people, they will send you payments instruction. All
orders must be pre-paid prior to shipment:
Selected Quartz crystal point charged with the GIZA and Australia Stargate
energies are available in Europe, Australia and the USA..  Due to the
limited number of crystals, shipments will be made on a first come, first
served basis.

In the USA & Canada, South America, Essence orders to: David Dalton, Delta
Gardens, 2 Willow Street, Newburyport, MA  or e-mail to delta@seacoast.com
(Delta Gardens). Crystal orders to: Donations for crystals of  $15.00
should be in US or International Postal money orders payable in US funds to
Earth Link Mission, PO Box 105, Prides Crossing, MA 01965
In Europe, to Cornelis at Center Shola Maoba, Basel Switzerland, e-mail to
Europe@earthlinkmission.org
In Australia to Earth Link Mission Australia, PO BOX 283, Marden, SA, 5070
or e-mail to Allan Kelly monad@microphonic.com.au or phone Grace at
08-8365-5845

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WESAC  NYC May 9-10, 1998 New York City, NY

Clarion Call goes out to al People. Come and celebrate WESAK on the holiest
days of the year, May 9-10, 1998. In New York City, home of the United
Nations and the Statue of Liberty, join us to unite East and West and bring
together with humanity all of the Divine Beings, Masters and Angels from al
over the Universe.
Participate in a Sacred Gathering of all Races, Religions in Unity
Consciousness. Christ will stand with Buddha, Muhammed and Moses along with
the Masters and Initiates.

WE ARE RETURNING TO SHAMBALLAH. These multidimensional events of Light,
Sound and Magnetics will resound throughout the Heavens and Earth. We will
participate in Meditations, Toning and Channels: receive the latest
information and guidance from the Ascended Realms. Sacred sounds will fine
tune your soul to the highest vibrational energies. Come and honor the
Festival of the Unity Consciousness and Goodwill.

Join Lee Carroll  - Kryon, Jan Tober ( toning), Chandara (Galactic Council
& Twelfth High Council Ancient of Days), David Miler (Arcturians, Sananda,
Metatron), Hannah Beaconsfield (whales & Dolphins) Mysterious Tremendum (
Sacred Sound) and representative of Sai Baba, Tibetan Monks, Sufi order and
others of the physical and etheric.

For more information please contact Z.Boccia  PO Box 334 New York, NY 10023
or e-mail return.to.shambala@juno.com.

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Quest for Mastery  June 20-21  & Tibet Stargate June 21 -  Boston Area

Join Ronna Herman and Archangel Michael, Chandara and the Twelfth High
Council Ancient of Days for a weekend of etheric delight!  At the
invitation of Archangel Michael, Ronna will fascilitate the activation of
the First Ray of Divine Power. We will clear and energize our bodies for
accepting this great gift from Archangel Michael.

With Chandara and the Galactic Councils, we will reactivate and link the
Atlantean Vortex encompasing the energies of the Tibet Stargate, and
connecting the Crystalline grids and Core of the Earth with the First
Divine Ray of Power thus integrating the energies of the Sixth Dimension
into the physical.  This personal and planetary leap of ascension energies
will make this special weekend a fast-track acceleration for all
participants.
For more information contact Earth Link Mission at
offfice@earthlinkmission.org.
Early registration $244., after June 1, $277

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CALENDAR - coming soon on  a web page at www.earthlinkmission.org

UPCOMING STARGATES: 1998
February     	CLB Workshops in Berlin, Germany
		Weekly meditation both online, and globally centered from
ELM Center in Essex, MA
 8 PM (EST - GMT+5) every Monday evening
March  		Machu Pichu STARGATE
April 	       	Australian Tour
May 	       	WESAC Return to Shambala Conference in NYC
		Earth Link Mission Global Gathering & Crystalline Light
Body Workshop
June 	        	Tibet/ Nepal Stargate from BOSTON
		"Quest for Mastery" workshop  & Stargate Activation with
Ronna Herman & Archangel Michael,
                                                 and Chandara & the
Galactic Councils
July 	        	USA workshops
August	         	open for creation
September   	Mt. Shasta Stargate Alignment
October        	Australia
November 	Europe
December	Jerusalem Stargate

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EARTH LINK MISSION TM NEWSLETTER
JANUARY 1998  VOL. 2 NO. 4

CONTENTS:
New Year Message  by Chandara
Message of Changes by Chandara
Weekly Global Planetary Meditations & Alignments
WHALE SLAUGHTER..CALL FOR HELP.
WORLD-WIDE MEDITATION: Activation of the Planetary Soul! JAN.30
YOU ARE COSMIC ARCHITECTS :Message from Archangel Michael by Ronna Herman
MERGING  SPIRIT WITH MATTER: Message from Archangel Michael by Ronna Herman
Jan.
Stargate Essences & Crystals
UPCOMING EVENTS
WESAC NYC
Quest For Mastery & Stargate opening with Ronna Herman & Chandara

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New Year Message by Chandara

Greetings and Welcome!
During the last month since the Stargate, much realignment of personal and
planetary energies has been taking place. We have watched the ELM chat
lists as people have discussed in detail the things in their lives which
are shifting and perhaps no longer working for them. This time of
discernment is one where the energies are shaking down and realigning. As
your personal vibrational patterns are accelerating, you may find that the
things in your life which made you comfortable are no longer serving you.
This may include friends, relationships, jobs, locations of homes...and
many other things. These things are realigning you for the LEAP which you
have taken in conscious awareness by participating in this last Stargate,
and preparing you for the NEW gates of 1998 and 1999. The way in which you
choose to participate in these shifts is entirely up to you. You may feel
that you are being pushed to the edge, to change. That is your choice. The
time of TRUST and FAITH and Belief in yourself and in the Source of One,
that you are doing exactly what you should be doing at this time. For in
truth, everything is perfect. All that is happening is happening for  a
reason, although it many not seem that way some times. We are being
prepared to take our places in the New Millennia. We are being asked to
take the leap of FAITH that what we know in our hearts to be true, we are
willing and able to commit to in the physical world. That we are able to
walk our talk, with Truth, Trust, Integrity, Honor, Commitment and
Unconditional Love. We are being asked to release the old patterns of
judgement, criticism, hatred, and deceipt to BALANCE our light into the
light of Acceptance, Harmony, Peace, Light and Love.  WE are being asked to
take our place as a component of the Group Consciousness in Unity and
Harmony. We are being asked to STAND TALL, Hold our Light, Align, Center,
and Balance. We are being asked to RELEASE the NEGATIVITY and thoughts
which hold us back from our true manifest magnificense.  We are being asked
to Walk in our Truth, Be who we ARE, and Stand in the Light of Love.

Yes, These are times of great changes. WE are being asked to re-claim our
personal power. To let go of EGO, judegment, jealousy, contempt and anger.
We are being asked to release our FEARS, for they are manifestations of the
thoughts of possible probabilites of the future, they are what we may
expect may happen, and what what we think of and what we intend, is what we
ask to manifest in our daily lives.  We are being asked to live in
CONSCIOUS AWARENESS of our thoughts, our actions, our intensions...our
feelings, our emotions, our honor, our integrity, our humility. WE are
being asked on a daily basis in every moment to recognise the Power of the
One in all things, and to realize that we ARE all One consciousness,
completely and totally aware of all things. We are asked to participate in
those things which we came here to do. To raise the planetary vibrations of
the Earth and of all life forms contained on this planet and in this
Universe. We are asked to bring forth the New Creation of Mankind, the new
Golden Age of Reality, and to be One with ourselves, and with All. For now
and into the New Millenium.

As this new year has come forth, may you all bring forth your internal
power of remembrance, your Truth, Integrity, Light, Unconditional Love and
Personal Power for the Good of All and Harm of None with ease and grace in
harmony and balance and live your life as the Light that you are in
Perfection. And so it is.

I AM Chandara
Adonai.

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Messages of Changes By Chandara

During the month of December and continuing into January, the Internet has
been filled with messags of predictions of Earth Changes. One can hardly
turn on the news or weather channel, or look outside and not see that there
are obvious Earth changes happening.  The scientists call much of this El
NINO. The prophets recite predictions of long ago. And everywhere people
are polarizing thoughts and judging the events that are occurring.

All events are harbingers of lessons. The lessons which are at this time
presenting themselves are of discernment and trust. And in this discernment
the Truth of what to believe and what not to believe will come to each and
every one who seeks this. In areas of weather pattern unrest, individuals
will decide each unto themselves if they should prepare for some potential
shift of the planetary patterns. At this time, the probabilities are very
good that these shifts will continue for some time yet. They will continue
until the humanity recognises that it has the power to change the reality
of what is occurring. These changes will continue to lessen as more and
more people return to their spiritual paths, and recognise their personal
truth, let go of their fears, and begin to live in the light and love which
this planet was meant to be.

The following was a response which was given to a "prediction" of
changes... Each of you must decide for yourselves whether the predictions
ring true for you or not. You must decide if you will live in FEAR or in
TRUST. You must decide if you BELIEVE you can make a difference, or not. MY
choice is that together we make an incredible difference. And in that
difference, we combine our power of thought and intention to bring balance,
peace and harmony to ourselves and our planet. And I believe we can make a
difference in healing our world. The choice, in the FREE WILL Planet, is
entirely YOURS.

"These "predcitions" are great opportunites for the combined consciousness
to take appropriate action, and with permission, ask for harmony and
balance to these events. WE have the current power to CHANGE the picture,
by realigning the earth's energy structures, clearing the old paradigm of
reality, and bringing the new higher vibrations into play. The old
paradigms and predictions cannot sustain at the higher vibration levels,
and are not recognised into the current reality.

We have the ability to effect these changes, if the group consciousness so
chooses and asks for this to manifest. Those who no longer a purpose for
the learning the lessons of consciousness in the way in which has listed
below,
are invited to join me and the Earth Link Mission volunteers in realigning
the higher energies, and then allowing Source to determine what the outcome
will be.

Earth Link Mission will be calling for several global meditations between
now and March, to provide an opportunity for the global consciousness to
come together with common intention and clarity, to provide the
consciousness level which is necessary for this type of work.  I invite you
all to join us, and allow Spirit to pave the way for the release of these
old paradigms and beliefs. "

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Weekly Global Planetary Meditations & Alignments
Beginning February 2, 1998, a weekly meditation for healing, the Earth and
other topics will be conducted on-site at the Earth Link Mission Center in
Essex, MA. From 7-9 PM.  Those Earth Link Mission members who wish to join
us etherically are welcome to join us. The main alignment and healing will
be at 8 PM each Monday evening. Chandara will lead the second Monday of
each month. Other times, guest facilitators will assist us.

Personal & Planetary Ascension Workshops
The Earth Link Mission Center presents a complete diverse workshop schedule
surrounding personal and planetary ascension. Chandara will present new
information on the Crystalline Light Body, Earth Energetics, Manifesting
Magnificence and others both at the Center and Globally. An informational
web page is coming in February. For a complete calendar listing please
e-mail to office@earthlinkmission.org.
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WHALE SLAUGHTER..CALL FOR HELP.
Earth Link Mission received this on Wed Jan 21,1998. We would ask you to
participate if you are drawn to do so. Thank You all, Chandara

 Dear Friends,
 I am hoping that you will be so kind as to let your mailing list know
about  a real crisis facing whales. The only thing stopping the US
government from allowing a native American  Indian tribe to go whaling off
the coast of Washington state is a lawsuit, initiated by an Australian
grass roots group and filed late last year.

 With massive media cover-ups going on, people around the world are not
being told that the Californian gray whale, an animal which can be so
friendly it will come up to a rowing boat, allowing people to touch it, is
about to be slaughtered.   The tribe, the Makah have not whaled for 70
years and most of their elders are opposed to any attempt to harm the whale.

 Australians for Animals, the Byron Bay grass roots group who mounted the
lawsuit has set up a web page with comprehensive information on the issue.
The address is: http://www.mullum.com.au/afa. Please circulate this
 information to anyone, groups, lists who may be interested.
 With grateful thanks,
 Sue Arnold, Australians for Animals NSW Inc.
PO Box 673, Byron Bay NSw 2481
 Australia. Ph: 61 66 843769 Fax: 61 66 843768 email:arnolds@om.com.au

WORLD-WIDE MEDITATION: Activation of the Planetary Soul!
January 30, 1998 at 8pm Greenwich Mean Time (or 3pm EST - New York, 12pm
PCT - California)

 We are writing to you with exciting news about a unique opportunity to
make a real difference for our world.  There will be an unprecedented
event on January 30, 1998.  It is a World Wide Meditation: Preparation  of
the Planetary Soul! It will be held across the planet at 8pm  Greenwich
Mean Time.  That means 3pm for New York and 12 pm for  California.  You can
figure the appropriate time for your location based  on that information.

 According to ARCHANGEL GABRIEL, we are in a time of unprecedented change
and opportunity on our planet.  It is a time that has been prophecied for
thousands of years.  It is a time of planetary and personal Ascension.
What does that mean?  It means that the consciousness and resonance of the
planet is raising unlike anything in the history of our planet.  How will
that affect all of us?  It will raise our awareness to a level of soul
awareness, transcending the fear and separation of the ego.  This event
will happen one way or another, whether we are conscious of it or not.  And
we will all be affected.  It is an unprecedented opportunity to heal and
balance our lives, letting go of living our lives out of avoidance of our
feelings, letting go of simply surviving our lives.  We are opening to the
greatness of who we really are - remembering our divinity.  We are moving
into Unity and Oneness.
   This process began on January 23, 1997.  This was the first initiation,
The Birth.  It was marked in the heavens with a six-pointed star formed by
six planets, for the first time in over 2000 years.  It marked the birth of
the Christ/Buddhic Consciousness on our planet.  It was the official
beginning of the Aquarian Age.  It began a process that will enhance and
change life as we know it.

 Rather than going into all of the details in this letter, we will just
give a few brief comments.  More detailed information is available at our
web site.  But for now let us say that we are now moving into the fourth
planetary initiation, The Renunciation. It is a time to prepare the soul
body for receiving the energies of Spirit directly.  The  energies will be
pouring into the second chakra (energy center) of the  planet in Egypt -
the Great Pyramid.  These energies will begin a process of clearing out all
of the chakras of the blocked energies held there.  They will then be
balanced, preparing the body to receive these powerful energies - opening
us to our divine awareness.
Details about all of these events are available at our web site:
http://childrenoflight.com

 We thank you in advance for your help in making a real difference for the
planet and each one of us.  Gabriel says that "those who participate  are
being of true service to your planet and to her future."  If any of you are
interested in joining us on this journey, there are a few spaces left.
However the deadline is rapidly approaching, so act quickly if you are
being led in this direction.  So let's join together, get the word out
there immediately and build a  resonance of anticipation as we move towards
this unique opportunity.
  Blessings to you all,

 Ron Baker and Robert Baker     Email: childlt@childrenoflight.com      Web
site: http://www.childrenoflight.com

*************************************************************
Messages from Archangel Michael   December 19, 1997 Channeled by Ronna Herman
YOU ARE COSMIC ARCHITECTS
Roman	Beloved masters, let us begin anew as you move into the final phase
of this century which could be called the bridge to the New Age, the era of
enlightenment.
	Not only has the countdown for the end of this century begun, but
the countdown for humanities' coming of age, for assuming responsibility as
co-creative partners in this journey along the cosmic highway to the stars.
A journey which will take you back home to a glorious reunion with your
true family.
	Because of the gift of will, the divine plan for the evolution of
the Earth and humanity has always been subject to change and reevaluation.
It has been allowed to take its own course down through the many ages, but
that time is quickly coming to a close. The concept of non-intervention has
run its course as far as the Earth and humanity are concerned. In the past,
humankind seemed to be a pawn in a great game of chance, controlled by
outside forces. The greater hierarchy is now taking an active role, has
laid down new rules, and new protective barriers have been placed around
your solar system and particularly, your earth. You are being given a
golden opportunity, beloveds. An opportunity to take control, to be the
divine architects and directors of the Earth's restructuring and
refurbishing. With the help of the co-creative council from the higher
realms, you have been given access to unlimited resources, and the
expertise of master builders is available for the asking.
	We ask you to step out boldly, to take control of your own destiny.
To unite with your brothers and sisters, your soul family, in bringing to
fruition the wondrous gifts that are being offered you: the beautification
and healing of your Earth, and the reclaiming of your birthright.
	Let us review some of the concepts that have been given to you over
the past year, so they will be fresh in your mind. The Earth and humanity
are in the midst of a great transformation process. You are retracing the
path on which you descended, as you took on dense physical form. In order
to do this, you must release the negative energy patterns within your
physical structure to make way for the lighter, higher frequencies. The
initiation and ascension process is a gradual progression of accessing the
new information: gaining new spiritual insight, and then allowing the
wisdom and truth of that knowledge to replace old, outmoded concepts and
beliefs. This, in turn changes your frequency patterns, which then
gradually changes your world, or picture of reality.
	As you already know, this is called building the Light Body, which
results in your multiple bodies being infused with balancing energies in
order to bring you to the maximum level of health, vitality and fitness. It
also helps you to tap into latent creative abilities and knowledge stored
within your brain structure. We have told you that you have light packets,
keys and codes within your brain that can only be accessed by attuning to
the higher frequencies. This is happening on a grand scale at this time, as
more of the mass population begins to feel the nudging of Spirit. The veil
of forgetfulness is dissolving so that as you bring your emotional and
mental bodies into harmony, you also gain the ability to tap into your
higher mind and reunite with the many facets of yourself.
	We have asked you to go through the process of breaking all
agreements, past, present and future which no longer serve you. This
involves forgiving everyone and anyone, past, present and future in which
you have had a karmic interaction, or in which there were dramas and
lessons to be learned. Gracefully forgiving and forgetting, in other words,
wiping the slate clean as if the event never happened, is very important
for only then is the energy completely transmuted within your auric field.
It does not matter if the other party involved forgives you or not, or is
even aware that you have forgiven them. However, if you are still in a
close relationship, they will certainly be aware something has changed
between you, because they will sense a difference as you radiate love, and
nonjudgement, rather than anger or resentment.
	We have also stressed the importance of tapping into the wisdom of
your body and elemental body. As you become attuned to the signals your
physical body transmits, it will result in you gaining an awareness of what
needs to be changed, or added, in order to maintain or regain health. You
will practice preventive health maintenance rather than wait until your
body moves into great distress. No longer placing the responsibility for
your good health in the hands of a doctor or health practitioner, you go to
them for the wisdom and knowledge they can provide. Using their services
when needed, but with the awareness that you are the caretaker and ultimate
healer of your precious physical vessel.
	Remember to breathe deeply and practice the sacred breath, each and
every day until it becomes natural, dear ones. Deep, rhythmic breathing, or
bringing in the golden or white prana of life is one greatest gifts you can
give yourself. The golden prana is the energy from the Sun or the fire
element, while white prana is derived from the element of air. There is
also prana which is derived from the Earth, or the earth element, and yes,
even prana from the element of water. These are the vital energies
necessary for you to exist and function efficiently in the physical body.
That is why it is sometimes called the sacred breath, for it helps
transmute and release negative energies within the body. It will also
balance and enhance the chakra system, and cleanse and expand the auric
field. Concentrate on your breathing techniques until it is natural for you
to breathe from  the abdomen instead of breathing shallowly from the chest
or diaphragm.
	If you will consciously practice deep rhythmic breathing, it will
help you to move easily into an altered or meditative state; it also
relieves stress and clears the mind as it energizes the body. Deep
breathing, with or without affirmations, is on of the best ways to balance
and harmonize your energy fields. It is the magic elixir of life.
	Your lives have changed dramatically over the past few years, no
one is excluded. Those of you who have stepped on the path of discipleship
have experienced many changes and released many things which no longer
serve you: possessions, relationships, beliefs, and habits. It has not been
easy, but as you take on a more expanded view,, you begin to see the
pattern and perfection of what is occurring. It is becoming easier to allow
changes to take place, for you realize that if you maintain the focus of
love, and constantly attune with your Higher Self, all is in divine order
and the outcome will be for your highest good--ALWAYS.
	You have learned and are, hopefully, practicing the universal laws
of manifestation and are aware that words and thoughts have energy.
Thoughts, feelings, words and action are the components needed to manifest
what you desire in the physical world. Therefore, as  you become more
proficient in using and accessing the universal cosmic substance from
whence all things are formed, be careful to monitor your thoughts, control
your emotions and be deliberate in your words and actions.
	Many of you have been told, are dreaming, or getting the idea that
you are healers, and many of you deny that this is possible. Believe us,
beloved bearers of Light, it is true. There are many ways to heal and you
do not have to have an educational degree, a certificate, permission or
credentials of any kind to spread or transmit healing energy. It is as
simple as allowing the pure crystalline Light substance of the Creator to
flow through you and out your heart center to others. It will expand,
magnify and enhance your auric field so that others are blessed as you move
among them. Ask for, and then feel the diamond crystalline pyramids of
energy become active in the palms of your hands. They may pulse or become
warm, but even if you feel no sensation at all, know that if you desire to
use this powerful energy to help humanity, it will magnify and grow. By a
kind word, a smile, a gentle touch, or by sharing and passing on your
wisdom and knowledge, you will be doing a great service.
	Also, you will find that the way will be opened for you to expand
your sphere of influence, and more opportunities will be presented to you
as you gain confidence and experience. As you overcome the obstacles and
perfect the gifts offered you, you will find your path will become clear
and you will know, without a doubt, that you are being helped, guided and
supported.
	Within the next few years, channeling as you now know it will
become an ordinary part of everyday life. It will no longer be unusual,
freakish, or a gift for only the few, for everyone who has attained a
fourth-dimensional frequency level will be able to tap into and communicate
with their higher self, their guides, angelic helpers, and yes, even the
Ascended Masters.
	Allow me to clarify, at this time, some confusing information or
misconcepts regarding the Ascended Masters and angelic beings. Know that
there are more human beings than ever before in physical embodiments who
are aspects of, or who carry the energies of the Cosmic Beings of the
higher realms. Some carry a greater or lesser degree of the energy of a
particular Being, but that is all they are, an aspect, or a facet of that
great Being. With the exception of the great Avatars, and you all know who
they are, no one in the physical expression of the third/fourth dimensions
could contain or carry the vastness or entirety of an archangel, or any
other cosmic being. Also, the Ascended Masters are overlighting and
infusing the auric fields of many of their beloved followers but, except
for very short appearances when deemed necessary, they will not incarnate
again in the physical body on Planet Earth.
	When the Earth has moved into amore refined frequency, there will
come a time when we will, once again, be visible to you, as we were in the
past. Just as we are reconnecting via feelings, energy impulses and
channeled messages, we will become even more real to you as you develop
clear seeing --- or the ability to see multi-dimensionally. This is already
happening more often than you realize. You are seeing an expanded
light-spectrum of colors, there are great signs in the sky via light
patterns, cloud formations, and unexplainable sightings. Some of you see
more clearly than others, just as some of you hear more sharply. These are
gifts that you brought with you when you came into the physical. They have
atrophied, or been forgotten, and it is now time to reclaim them. Believing
is the first step, or faith in your own abilities and the possibility that
what we say is true. I ask you to prove it for yourselves, one level at a
time, and watch as new vistas and new abilities open before you.
	Even as we say these gifts are yours to claim, do not get caught up
in the glamour of psychic manifestation. Psychic gifts are not necessarily
a sign of higher spirituality, especially if used to control, influence or
dominate others. Originally, these abilities were a natural part of your
physical makeup, and will be again in the future. But during these times of
transition, your physical structure and your mission will determine which
abilities you will develop and how quickly they will be made available to
you. These gifts have been grossly misused in the past and that will not be
allowed to happen again. In the past, it took many years, even lifetimes,
for an initiate to develop even the basic psychic abilities. And so, be
patient, dear ones, you are being given more help and greater opportunities
than ever before, you are making great strides and wondrous gifts await
you.
	I wish to speak now of your young people. Those who have incarnated
in the physical over the last twenty-five years or so are wise and advanced
beings. Many are the forerunners of the next race of humanity which will
populate the Earth as it moves into harmony and peace. They are more
attuned to Spirit and have abilities available to them that you are
striving to reclaim. It may not seem that this is so when you see what is
happening around the world; the senseless violence, the anger and
frustration, the addictions and excesses in which these young ones are
caught up and trapped. Understand that it is not easy for them to live and
function in the negativity that they have been exposed to from birth and
which surrounds them. They cannot understand, and so they try to drown
their pain and sensitive natures in physical sensations of various sorts.
They lash out insenseless violence when the pain becomes unbearable. Their
senses are not deadened and dulled like those of the older generations.
Their mental and emotional natures cannot tolerate the violence and the
hate and fear they are exposed to on a daily basis.
	Do not blame the young ones, they are only magnifying what is
presented to them by the adults around them. If they are to learn respect,
they must be respected; to learn unconditional love and to value life, they
must be taught that they are worthy, loved and that life is a wondrous
gift. If they are to be taught responsibility, others around them must be
accountable and responsible for their thoughts, actions and deeds. They are
magnifying and dramatically playing out the attitudes, concepts and beliefs
of their parents, teachers and role-models. They are powerful, wonderful
souls, but will continue to be self-destructive, or harm others until they
are awakened to their divine nature and allowed to connect with their
soul/higher self. Then, you will see, they will transform before your eyes,
and assume leadership roles as they take over and complete the tasks that
you began.
	Beloved warriors of Light, we consider you our partners in this
magnificent cosmic event. You are the actors and directors, we only supply
the resources, you might say. But the drama is quickly moving to the next
stage, where we will combine our forces even more dramatically. You, with
full knowledge, that you are our emissaries and beloved representatives,
and that we are your loving protectors and mentors. We honor and love you
most profoundly. I AM Archangel Michael.
Channeled by Ronna Herman *STAR * Quest * 6005 Clear Creek Dr., Reno NV
89502. Phone/Fax: (702) 856-3654 * My Dear and Precious Friends: How truly
blessed and privileged we are to be, what I call, major players in this
time of awakening. I feel your love and presence radiate across the miles
to me, and your sweet notes and letters mean more than I can ever tell you
(although I do not always have time to answer each one). It has been a year
of challenges (which get easier) a busy, hectic schedule (which I love).
Daily, I ask our beloved Lord Michael to give me good health and the
strength to continue the pace as long as I am needed. The time is now, my
friends, for us to become more visible. It is amazing how the general
populace is beginning to awaken and ask questions -- I find it so,
everywhere I go. So, step out there, I dare you, and I believe you will be
amazed at how much you have to share; how open and receptive people are.
Take the simple truths that Lord Michael has given us over the years and
pass them on in whatever way is appropriate -- it is as simple as that. My
heart is so full of love and gratitude -- give yourself a big hug from me.
I WISH YOU LOVE, LIGHT, LAUGHTER, JOY AND ALL GOD'S BLESSINGS,
ALWAYS, RONNA
**************************************************************

(Continued In Part 2 of Newsletter...)




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At 10:07 PM 1/22/98 -0800, Dave Warner wrote:
>i dont see why i sould waste my time with such drivel.....

Thought so ...

>what are you kidding of course im going...

What, are you kidding, of course I'm kidding...

Time for bed (for some of us, at least).  See ya manana

jeff



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Jodi looked over my shoulder and noted "hmmm, looks like she has a better
design sense than ... (others whose names shall remain unspoken).  She's
right, it's very nice.  She should offer her help to ... (others whose
names shall remain unspoken).  

BTW, we've got our mac connected to Roadrunner as of tonite.  Jeff the tech
support guru punched through some challenging bugs which seemed hopeless to
the wife.  I get major kudos, so she can't have a problem with me falling
off the wagon now.  She worships me (at least for a day or two, which is
long enough for a visit to Joe's).  Life is very good ...  :-)

At 10:02 PM 1/22/98 -0800, Dave Warner wrote:
>dudes
>
>we have a new commer in the web development arena
>check out janice's first effort....couple of hours and stuff she
>got from the web
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4645/i3.html
>
>davew
>
>
>


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Dave:

I know that you have tried to get me by voice, sorry... just now having
time to compose email. We do need to move forward on Future Health
planning. One pressing issue:

>I need an abstract from you and your co-presenter ASAP, please.
>Best
>
>Rob Kall

If you can give me some bullet items, I'll add mine any copy you back.
We'll give Rob a rough idea of our topic.

I'll be in Orlando this weekend, where are you???


Dave




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Dr.Warner,
	Thank you for accepting our invitation.  My name is Marc Tobak, and I am an
officer in the Jamesville-Dewitt High School Science and Engineering
Association (SEA).  SEA is a student-run organization at Jamesville-DeWitt
High School.   SEA is the largest and most active extracurricular
group at our high school; we have over 50 members and organized over 20 events
last year.  Two seniors, Mark Abraham and Jason Stockmann founded the club,
and are the co-presidents.  I have seen your presentation at Temple Adath, and
found it very interesting and informative.  Possible dates include: 3/3, 3/10,
3/17, 3/24, 3/31 and 4/7.  If you need two sessions, you may come two
consecutive Tuesdays, or one Tuesday and the following Friday.  
	I would appreciate if you could give me the date, or set of possible dates,
when you can attend, so we can plan our schedule.  
	Again, thank you very much, and I am looking forward to hearing from you.  I
can be reached at M6158@AOL.COM or 446-9320.

Sincerely 

Marc Tobak


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Tav Hawkins once referred me to Jason Stockmann. I think I contacted him,
but am not certain. 
I might have invited him to one of our Nerdfests. 
FYI, in case this is to involve me, I might be away 3/31. 
We should perhaps organize/coordinate the high school contigents (students
and supervising teachers) from Nottingham, FM, and JD.  
Ed 


At 10:11 AM 1/23/98 -0800, you wrote:
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>Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:46:25 EST
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>Cc: ABRAHAMJ@mailbox.hscsyr.edu
>Subject: SEA Presentation
>
>Dr.Warner,
>	Thank you for accepting our invitation.  My name is Marc Tobak, and I am an
>officer in the Jamesville-Dewitt High School Science and Engineering
>Association (SEA).  SEA is a student-run organization at Jamesville-DeWitt
>High School.   SEA is the largest and most active extracurricular
>group at our high school; we have over 50 members and organized over 20
events
>last year.  Two seniors, Mark Abraham and Jason Stockmann founded the club,
>and are the co-presidents.  I have seen your presentation at Temple Adath,
and
>found it very interesting and informative.  Possible dates include: 3/3,
3/10,
>3/17, 3/24, 3/31 and 4/7.  If you need two sessions, you may come two
>consecutive Tuesdays, or one Tuesday and the following Friday.  
>	I would appreciate if you could give me the date, or set of possible dates,
>when you can attend, so we can plan our schedule.  
>	Again, thank you very much, and I am looking forward to hearing from you.  I
>can be reached at M6158@AOL.COM or 446-9320.
>
>Sincerely 
>
>Marc Tobak
>
>
>


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Dave, I'll be coming in on Wednesday. Is it possible to see your
presentation that night? Setting everything up on Wed or Tues? Looking
forward to it....

Craig


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That was quite a bunch of big names at that Roundtable.  There's got to be
a way to turn namedropping into cold hard cash!!


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>Hi, my name is Michael Terminello,
>   I'm in the military & I work in a Medical Clinic.  I've been reading a lot
>about telemedicine and I was wondering what I would have to do to major in
>this feild.  I'm new to San Diego & I wouldn't know the first place to look.
>I don't know if you could help me out, but if you can I would really
>appreciate it.

I don't know of any degree programs in telemedicine.  ECU has training -
see http://www.telemed.med.ecu.edu/reach.htm.  You might contact Dave
Warner .  He's working on telemedicine projects & lives in
San DIego sometimes.

Jodi


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check out 
http://s008.infomall.org/newmed/globalmed.html

davew


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All is going well...crazy, of course.  Gotta love it.

Numbers for dialup

ISDN#1:  	B1:  619.233.43250101
		B2:  619.233.48820101

ISDN#2:		B1:  619.233.53090101
		B2:  619.233.83620101

Hope this is what you need.

Booth setup is Wed. afternoon.  Officially 1:00 PM, but as soon as GES is
set they will let you start.  Besides, when did official mean anything to
you, anyhow.  I have ordered you two tables and electricity, no chairs
because none of your people ever sit anyhow.

We will accept support from any entity, including whaleworld.

Bob

>hey bob
>
>hope all is going good
>
>enen if it isnt ...pretend
>
>do we know the isdn phone numbers for dial up
>
>annie sobel in anartica is lonely and wants to have a chat...
>no really am trying to coordinate telemed thing with the penguins
>
>
>hey maybe sea world would sponser the link....just a thought
>
>
>when can we get in to set up booths
>davew





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>thanks jodi
>ill contact the guy
>davew
>
>any ideas on the kidcast for peace on earth day???
>davew

Global schoolnet does cuseeme & has done peace projects in the past.
see  http://www.gsn.org/
http://www.gsn.org/cu/index.html



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Please widely distribute .


--------
The Virtual Reality Education Foundation (Affectionately known as VeRGe)
and Curve, Inc. proudly present The VRML 98 DemoSIG Night.  

The event will take place Wednesday, 18 February 1998 at the Doubletree
Hotel - Monterey, California.  

Similar to last year's hit event, The VRML98 DemoSIG presents the highest
quality VRML demos in a exciting, fast-paced environment.  Lively and
interesting, The VRML98 DemoSIG, will have even more "interactive audience
feedback devices" that many of you know and love. These devices prove
invaluable in keeping the event on schedule.

The event will be sponsored by Sony, Microsoft and others.

All submitted demos are judged for inclusion in the evening's program. Most
demos will be between 3-5 minutes long--depending on content of demo. 

DEADLINE for entering is Monday, 26 January 1998.  Demos judged later that
week.  The selected demo-ees will be contacted with detailed follow-up
information by Monday, 9 February 1998. 

While we will provide computers to use, we strongly suggest you run your
demo from a lap-top. 

We've learned tons from the last couple of events and have much more time
for set up.  This means more efficient demo setup and better advance
notification of winning demos.  We will also have much greater access to
the demo machines than at SIGGRAPH.

Sign up at http://www.verge.org/projects/vrml98/signup.html

Specific questions comments and/or feedback should be sent to the event's
Master of Ceremonies, Timothy Childs at timothy@curve.net

VRML '98 is Sponsored by ACM SIGGRAPH and ACM SIGCOMM, in cooperation with
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hi hon

I have you wait listed... Did Heather redo
my booking...they had different seats then
the exit ones I had gotten for you...Also
they did not have you as a vegaterian.
(which i had requested)

Tomorrow I will go check on the computer:)
I will try and get grant to go with me.
Probley after church...

I have made arrangements to get a sprint pcs
phone, maybe by tomorrow. Or Monday.

I'm sooo glad the airtickets went through.
All you need is a 3day advance for the 
student fares.  Not bad.

I got an e-mail from Marti also. 
I wish she'd check out San Diego.

Todd...sounds like he's busting butt,...with
a backwards grin. He's pretty funny.  

Laure called, she's not sure she can make 
it Wed. night, but is for sure Fri. night. 
I think she may be spending the weekend.

Well it's already 1:30 your time...
I shall close my door and sleep
by 11:00.....well, mabey 12:00.
well,maybe....

sleep tight love,
me




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I'm dogpeddling (surfing)on the black compaq.
We've had trouble with the big one.
It's been going into safe mode the last
few days.  Not sure why.  
Probley all the porn surfing.
It's now putting on a rubber.

tyring to catch up.
skipping church.

xxx
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Hi hon
did you by any chance take the connectix software
back east.  We are having to clean up the hard drive
and reinstall programs.

slowly pushing threw the fog
me


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