From davew@well.com Fri Oct  1 07:31:50 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:31:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Lois Clark McCoy <niusr@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Need Your short bio please
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hi lois

when is the board meeting

davew




From davew@well.com Fri Oct  1 09:04:23 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:04:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: martiom <martisbears@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: From martiom To david: Sad Day On Sesame Street :(
In-Reply-To: <199910011425.KAA22848@127.0.0.1>
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hey marti

thanks for the humor

hope all is going well

davew


On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, martiom wrote:

> I'm sorry to have to share this with you, david.
> 
> It's a VERY sad day on Sesame Street :(
> 
> Go to the website below.
> 
> http://www.smartbot.net/sesame/
> 
> or <a href="http://www.smartbot.net/sesame/">CLICK HERE</a>
> 
> Please let me know if you are OK after going there.
> 
> martiom
> 
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct  1 16:57:02 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:56:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Pam Contag <prcontag@xenogen.com>
Subject: RE: Hi -Everything is possible!  
In-Reply-To: <C3BC00266F5DD2119FC900A0C99ABADB02EC86@XEN-1>
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great....

my west coast reality is
oct 13-15

nov 1-3

nov 12-15

nov 19-22

any of these work for you

also
need reality therapy on

what can we do
how fast can we do it

re.. bugs in dishes,,, 

.. other cells in dishes

..what should i know before i come there as to background info
experimental designs....

... also if there are any sensitivities --psycho-social...corp
culture...corp structure that i should be aware of

..."guest behavior expectation matrix"...


will this first visit cost me??/
if so how much...

im new at this bio-tech-stunt science thing,,,,so i dont have a feel for
protocol.....

...id like to buy a clue....


from the future
davew


From davew@well.com Fri Oct  1 19:01:14 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:01:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: davidbalch@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: northcarolina- medical intelligence on demand (fwd)
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dave this is from an other from the xii group
i want to get you to their board meeting in nov 18th  in la

mindtel can cover expenses...

this fall were gonna rock this field....

the force is with us....

dont get cocky.....


from the future
davew

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From: Kevinmccoy@aol.com
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Subject: Re: northcarolina- medical intelligence on demand

great site.  Kevin



From davew@well.com Fri Oct  1 20:35:23 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:35:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: RasmussenE@website.tamc.amedd.army.mil
Subject: Re: ping....
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2 things...

my ecu friend will be there in flordia...
lots of time to secure the future....

also  i need to connect you with doug will md

who is working on a program which can fuse and integrate "
"Complex conceptual interrelationships necessary to support real-time
clinical workflow based on the real-time interaction between abstract
representations of patient state, practitioner state, and clinical
knowledge base state.  "


,,,,he really groks the problem and you need to see what he has done in
the past...

 
have fun in the other world,,, c u in florida

davew



From davew@well.com Fri Oct  1 22:11:46 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:11:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: jacksons ticket
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hey baby

how much and how long do you think it will take to
get jacksons ticket...

would like to get closure on this soon...

he actually is ready to go any time.....
so some time soon ... at a resonable price whould be great...

is the ticket he came out on any good???  ie for the return  or did he
have a one way...

just checking... i chatted with him tonight,,,

thanks
1243


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To: usar-exec@sfu.ca, usar-alex@sfu.ca
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Dear Eagles: for your week-end light reading. Press On! Lois

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Having gone to both Turkey and Taiwan (my first two missions), it was
certainly an interesting contrast in many ways. As a comm guy I don't get to
spend too much time on the working sites - but it was nice to travel across
Taiwan in the daylight hours as opposed to coming and going in the night in
Turkey.  Real difference in the layout of the towns... and in the number of
tall apartment complexes in Taiwan that didn't appear to suffer any
noticeable damage. From a comm perspective both BoOs were surrounded by a
fair number of tall structures - some looking more stable than others.
Since both were close to the initial work sites, we used our 10 meter
aluminum tower  for the GM300 repeater and several GRA-4 mast sections for
the base station antenna.  The tower is very light and we strapped it to the
bleacher frame in Turkey and the chain-link fence frame surrounding the
tennis courts in Tou-Liu. Checked out several promising rooftops in Tou-Liu,
but ended up leaving it on the tower since we weren't sure if we were going
to redeploy the BoO. Taiwan power was 115 VAC with polarized 2-blade
outlets. Will bring three prong/two prong adapters next time so we don't
have to cut up any 3-wire extension cords! I was in the hallway on the 10th
(top) floor of the airport hotel when the 6.8 aftershock went through on
Monday... talk about rocking and rolling! While "riding it down" may have
been a sensible option, it sure didn't seem like it at the time! When we
redeployed on Monday to Nantou again, we ended up in an Army compound with a
proposed chopper mission to a village some 10-15 miles away. The repeater
was hustled up to the roof of a 10 story old folks home that stood on a high
ridge (after it had been OK'd by the structural guy). From the roof it was a
straight shot down and across the valley.  A Taiwanese telecomm crew was
installing a GSM cell site in the penthouse, and with broken English and
lots of gestures they rigged up a mast for us and even bolted a bracket into
the concrete parapet wall to secure it. We had the repeater up in something
like 50 minutes... too bad they then scratched the mission and we had to
take it all down an hour later! Whoops - getting late and I've got to get up
early tomorrow to try and catch up on a few chores. More another time
perhaps.

Bryan Cloyed, Communications Specialist, VA-TF1
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>Welcome home VA and FL task force members. Once again you folks have
>done a great job. Let us in on some of the interesting happenings when
>you get a chance.
>
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From davew@well.com Sat Oct  2 10:36:19 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:36:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Kathy Becker <kbecker@npac.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: out of space 
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could you create a link to my other project directories also??
thanks


On Mon, 27 Sep 1999, Kathy Becker wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> 
> You are now the owner of  the new project directory:
> 
> /project/davewarch1 at 500MB.  To access this directory:
> 
> 1) login to vega as davew.
> 
> 2) cd /project/davewarch1
> 
> Also, I created a link in your home directory to this project directory.
> If you are logged in to vega as davew:
> 
> vega:/npac/home/davew% ls -l | grep davewarch1
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 davew    res           19 Sep 27 14:48 davewarch1 ->
> /project/davewarch1
> 
> So, you can also get to your project directory by:
> 
> vega:/npac/home/davew% cd davewarch1
> vega:/npac/home/davew/davewarch1%
> 
> To move a file from your home dir to your project dir:
> 
> vega:/npac/home/davew% mv myfile davewarch1
> 
> 		or
> 
> vega:/npac/home/davew% mv myfile /project/davewarch1
> 
> As you said, you're from the Windows world and I'm from Unix.
> My explanation above may not be as user-friendly as I think.
> Let me know if you have any questions.  
> 
> We've had some major DNS problems here, so I haven't been able to
> get to the pulsar issue.  It's on the top of my list for tomorrow.
> 
> Regards,
> Kathy
> 
> In message <Pine.GSO.4.10.9909270753410.2989-100000@well.com>Dave Warner writes
> >kathy
> >
> >i realize your busy....  thanks for all the help...
> >
> >the directories you suggested sound great
> >
> >i will work with you this week to get me on track... 
> >
> >thanks for the reality track....
> >
> >davew
> >
> >
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Sat Oct  2 13:23:09 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 13:23:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: sjones <sjones@darpa.mil>
Subject: Re: FW: Berger's Latest
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way cool

davew



From davew@well.com Sat Oct  2 17:40:08 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 17:39:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Johannes Nicholas Johannsen <jojo@well.com>
Subject: new viz tool
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hey jojo

i downloaded the new wtuff

installed it

vizwiz works

loaded the trans viz .... and presto  it works!!!

...what is on tap for the next rev....

also just fyi  our major sponsor is having a vip demo nov 7th -9th in dc

lots of generals and state dept people....it is a landmine detection demo
by darpa....
we are supposed to have a "future" of landmine visualization demo
booth....
so i will need several features this next month

i think it is things that we have discussed before

ability to ramp the color ...

need to zoom

the ability to have multiple plane's  
ie now we have one plane  of x-y

we need to send different signal data to different planes..

ie what you have is x-y plane at z=0
which shows signal strenth

i need to be able to pick things like...
z=n and have a parallel plane above the one i have which may have the
velocity of the tracker head at that position

or some other wierd but interesting parameter

also would like to have an array of planes

i will try to sketch somthing out to show what i mean...

the marines complained that it was hard to see the 3d front to back...
i need to be able to adjust the colors on the fly to please them

can we make the plane a grid....with a variable mesh size...

ie the difference between screen doors and chain link fence

how far off is transparency???



..
btw this is way cool and i am looking forward to developing all sort of
interesting visual effects

...


let me know how much of this is doable...


thanks
davew


 


From davew@well.com Sun Oct  3 05:39:50 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 05:39:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
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From: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
To: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
Subject: Re: new viz tool



Dave Warner wrote:

> hey jojo
>
> i downloaded the new wtuff
>
> installed it
>
> vizwiz works
>
> loaded the trans viz .... and presto  it works!!!
>

cool, I realized after I mailed it that only the jtrans.ntl works, but
probably not jviz (which I hadn't redone since the new jviz module...)

By the way, if you haven't done it, change your "v.bat" file to use "bh.wrl",
or look at documentation (which uses screen shots based on this) -- the
moving ball you can control in alot of different ways -- I just have controls
attached to X axis and color.  See JTrans module properties for the
soon-to-be expanded list of controls...

>
> ...what is on tap for the next rev....
>

- full screen
- viz on linux
- color ramp up
- multiple planes
- transparency controls from neattools JTrans module into viz

some of neattools specific things -- modem and sound control have to make
Win98 specific -- that OK?  NT hardware/software just not there.  Wouldn't be
surprised if Linux were better than NT for this sort of thing...

>
> also just fyi  our major sponsor is having a vip demo nov 7th -9th in dc
>
> lots of generals and state dept people....it is a landmine detection demo
> by darpa....
> we are supposed to have a "future" of landmine visualization demo
> booth....
> so i will need several features this next month
>
> i think it is things that we have discussed before
>
> ability to ramp the color ...
>

Yes, can do this... how many colors do you want to be able to set.  Right now
you only have 2 colors -- the "bottom" and the "top" color -- so how many
would you like it to be?

Also, could make the color come from neattools (i.e. have neattools send
color along with signal, JViz module having a color input) -- this would make
sense if you have way to ramp up colors in neattools, or would like to put
that 'color ramp up' in the JViz module properties.

will be able to get in N colors, each associated with certain percent signal
level, then ramp between them.

was 'texture' OK on the existing colors?  That was the kind of checker board
effect on the mountains -- made it easier to see height (for me) -- but
colors might make this less necessary -- can also do sfumato effect -- this
is probably nicer -- it is color fading at distance -- so colors in back are
faded compared to colors at front.

>
> need to zoom
>

on the list -- assuming you mean zoom signal comes from neattools into viz.

>
> the ability to have multiple plane's
> ie now we have one plane  of x-y
>

can do that now, model is loadable, change your "v.bat" file to use "bh.wrl"
if you haven't already... it has two planes (not parallel though -- and only
uses one for showing signal info)

>
> we need to send different signal data to different planes..
>

OK, I'll add more signal inputs into JViz module.

>
> ie what you have is x-y plane at z=0
> which shows signal strenth
>
> i need to be able to pick things like...
> z=n and have a parallel plane above the one i have which may have the
> velocity of the tracker head at that position
>

and how is it visualized.  x-y plane at z=0 uses height and brushwidth to
visualize signal strength.

you want different visualization options for different planes?

First pass I'll make it same with transparency controls so you can fade
in/out different planes, so you get planes with mountains (like now)

>
> or some other wierd but interesting parameter
>
> also would like to have an array of planes
>

as many as the computer can handle

>
> i will try to sketch somthing out to show what i mean...
>
> the marines complained that it was hard to see the 3d front to back...
> i need to be able to adjust the colors on the fly to please them
>

more color adjustments coming next rev

>
> can we make the plane a grid....with a variable mesh size...
>

do you want to be able to control the mesh size on the fly?

option #1: -- i make different mesh files, you load them
option #2: -- i generate different mesh files that get reloaded -- which
means when you change mesh size on fly you lose (maybe) all the signal info
that has accumulated -- like the "reset" button
option #3: -- you adjust mesh on the fly for different planes, everything
else stays the same

can definitely get "option #1/2" very quickly.  option #3 you can get if you
want it, just takes more time (i.e. probably will take a few days to do it)

>
> ie the difference between screen doors and chain link fence
>
> how far off is transparency???
>

transparency is handled on viz side pretty well -- will add "transparency"
attribute control to JTrans neattools module.

> ..
> btw this is way cool and i am looking forward to developing all sort of
> interesting visual effects
>
> ...
>
> let me know how much of this is doable...
>

all doable -- hardest thing (but maybe most useful) -- is changing geometry
on fly.  like changing mesh grid on fly.
Not impossible, just haven't done this before.

Have down changing existing geometry properties on the fly, so adding things
like transparency and whatever other kinds of controls make sense is not a
big deal.

JJ





From davew@well.com Sun Oct  3 07:35:18 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 07:35:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: wavz <wavz@intr.net>
Subject: Rewhere are you
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hey man

i be comming to dc now!!!

you there or in amster???

leave to spain on tuesday


wanna play???...that is if your arround

davew



From davew@well.com Sun Oct  3 14:14:27 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:14:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: madrid
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thanks baby...
me
1243



From davew@well.com Sun Oct  3 14:18:50 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:18:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: wavz <wavz@intr.net>
Subject: Re: where i am
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got the thing from james...
i will print it and sign it and turn it in

you be out of the loop

thanks for helping me out on this....


going to spain tue pm

back in dc sat pm till tue pm.. then on to san diego...then to flordia
than to dc  then to syracuse then to san diego
...then to dc...
big landmine thing in early nov---7-10

c u some time

davew


From davew@well.com Sun Oct  3 18:02:29 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: rdugan@darpa.mil
Subject: connect re next planet and uxo demos.
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r
missed my window to call your offfice on friday

i am open from 11-5+ tomorrow...your my top priority

i have samples of the material ...

your gonna like it...


i will call in the am

c u davew


From davew@well.com Sun Oct  3 18:14:33 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:14:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: David Balch <davidbalch@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: northcarolina- medical intelligence on demand (fwd)
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hey man

am in dc

doing the darpa and beam of life gig's

kinda of  "hurt them and heal them"   thing

off to spain tue pm till sat pm  then here in dc...then off to san diego..

did you get the check yet,,sent 2k late last week



hopw all is well look forward to hanging in flordia...


will calltomorrow or tue am

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct  4 08:57:12 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:57:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Rita <rita@telemed.ru>
Subject: Re: Agreements
In-Reply-To: <37F8D6AA.427CB442@telemed.ru>
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rita

the papers are being sent already

you should have them in 3 days

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct  4 10:45:57 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Denis Roark <dk.roark@starpower.net>
Subject: Re: Real Estate Opportunity
In-Reply-To: <000901bf0e87$205e7ba0$10cb7ad1@hpcustomer>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910041045060.14283-100000@well.com>
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denis

sounds interesting...

and in my price range.....

i am in dc today and tomorrow till about 3ish

davew

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Denis Roark wrote:

> I ran across the proporty.  It is located on Route 7 inside the beltway,
> about 2 miles from Tysons Corner shopping center and .25 miles from I-66 and
> the metro.
> 
> It is 10,500 square feet.  3k in front is commercial space with a large
> glass window running the length of the space.  The rest of the space is
> warehouse.
> 
> He is asking $10k per month.  I would like to offer $3.5k in cash per month,
> $6k in tax deductions per month and get $30k for buildout for office space
> in the back.  You could share the space with the fencing school (that also
> has chiropractor and massage).  what do you think?
> 
> Denis
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct  4 15:25:49 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:25:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Denis Roark <dk.roark@starpower.net>
Subject: Re: Address
In-Reply-To: <000a01bf0e92$7f0c7480$388ba4d8@hpcustomer>
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thanks i will stop by later tonight..  and email you  later tonight or
early am tomorrow

davew

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Denis Roark wrote:

> If you have time to stop by....it is located at 1001 West Broad Street,
> Falls Church, VA.  It used to be a carpet store.
> 
> Denis
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct  4 16:26:53 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:26:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: mindtel@yahoo.com
Subject: HELP (fwd)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:34:19 -0300
From: Wayne Bell <wbell@telehealth.ca>
To: Aasgaraly@al-ghannam.com, Alan G. Law <aglaw@math.uwaterloo.ca>,
     Amy-Lynn Bell <amy@digital-fx.ca>, andre.lacroix@UMontreal.ca,
     apilon@tandbergvision.com, aclyde@tandbergvision.com,
     pollard@me.queensu.ca, Ara Pehlivanian <arap@iname.com>,
     nshfx@ns.sympatico.ca, bmccaffrey@attcanada.com, csafran@harvard.edu,
     cifra@riq.qc.ca, cbaker@attcanada.com, cflint@cev.ca,
     Constantine_Tikhonov@hc-sc.gc.ca, shepherd@cs.dal.ca, david.zitner@dal.ca,
     vrlab@digital-fx.ca, dave@sparky.med.ecu.edu, clemis@dsi-51.ic.gc.ca,
     dcgough@ibm.net, "David Kaufman, UMESA" <David.Kaufman@dal.ca>,
     davew@well.com, david.zitner@dal.ca,
     Digital Image FX Inc. <vrlab@digital-fx.ca>, amy@digital-fx.ca,
     gerry@digital-fx.ca, steve@digital-fx.ca,
     DONALD FERGUSON <Don_Ferguson_@hc-sc.gc.ca>, dds <dds@inforamp.ca>,
     eric.tsang@crc.ca, Erin Keough <ekeough@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>,
     fpearce@telemedicine.alaska.edu, gburt@cev.ca,
     "Ronsick, Gene" <Gene.Ronsick@alliedsignal.com>,
     Geoff Smith <smithg@cybersurf.net>, gerry@digital-fx.ca,
     slusag@health.gov.ab.ca, Glenn MacDonald <glenn.macdonald@chn.ca>,
     Dr Gordon Atherley <atherley@lexicar.com>, virtual@globalserve.net,
     "Ferguson, Helen: HFX" <Ferguson.Helen@ic.gc.ca>,
     stds-vi1392@majordomo.ieee.org, atlanticrim@mediaone.net,
     dbeauregard@mail-gw.opt.uh.edu, defrancescot@pictel.com,
     Karl.Stroetmann@empirica.com, jvachon@ciframedical.com,
     connorsj@cgocable.net, fpearce@telemedicine.alaska.edu,
     atherley@lexicar.com, infotel@istar.ca, evansjo@hanscom.af.mil,
     wsmith@americanmeddev.com, relford@cadvision.com, Thomas.Emodi@dal.ca,
     robert.istepanian@port.ac.uk, DrBoston@netcom.ca, jlcooper@online.nf.ca,
     jsanders@tgtg.com, jeanmarcmackenzie@medcan.com, jblitz14@hotmail.com,
     James Barron <atlanticrim@mediaone.net>, infotel <infotel@istar.ca>,
     John Chalker <chalker@istar.ca>, Dr. John Coleman <jcoleman@crcg.edu>,
     John A Coller <jcoller@world.std.com>,
     John Connors <connorsj@cgocable.net>, evansjo@hanscom.af.mil,
     johnross@is.dal.ca, joy.kajiwara@gov.yk.ca,
     Kaye White Walker <kaye@TELETRAIN.COM>, keithd3057@aol.com,
     ksheen@APMgroup.com, kshah@baylismedical.com, ac065@issc.debbs.ndhq.dnd.ca,
     lockard@aol.com, Mark Palmer <MPALMER@mpe.ca>,
     mary.clancy@bostn01.x400.gc.ca, mburnstein@mgnet.ca, ackerman@nlm.nih.gov,
     shepherd@cs.dal.ca, Mamoru Watanabe <watanabe@med.ucalgary.ca>,
     neil.ritchie@dal.ca, santilly@istar.ca, pdemaio@lucent.com,
     Paul_Kent@dmr.ca, Paul Milgram <milgram@argos.rose.utoronto.ca>,
     zimnik@snipe.prod.itd.earthlink.net,
     Penny Jennett <jennett@med.ucalgary.ca>, peter.angood@yale.edu,
     Peter Hogan <PHogan@acoa.ca>, Peter MacKinnon <petemac@istar.ca>,
     Randolf Harrold <rharrold@isr.ca>, postuma@acs.ucalgary.ca,
     RPVos <RPVos@aol.com>
Subject: HELP

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From davew@well.com Mon Oct  4 17:31:49 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:31:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Steve Murray <murrays@spawar.navy.mil>
Subject: Re: ONR update
In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19991004134619.029ea1f0@marlin.nosc.mil>
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 steve

here is some pics of the early  brain work that lead up to the viz..
http://sunrise.npac.syr.edu/pulsar-stat/guest/Dave+brain-eeg-iso.html

here is a viz tool image file

http://sunrise.npac.syr.edu/pulsar-stat/guest/Dave+mineview1.html

or


c u in the future
davew


From davew@well.com Mon Oct  4 20:37:30 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:37:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: fax not here
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910042035100.24659-100000@well.com>
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janice

the front desk called after i was just down there looking for the fax

you a\have the wrong number... they keep geeting calls from a faxmachine
at the front desk #

fax 979-0547 is what my fonlst syss is there fax




From davew@well.com Mon Oct  4 20:46:52 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:46:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: fax not here
In-Reply-To: <19991005034042.23993.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910042046310.24659-100000@well.com>
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the one from earler didnt come in ...

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct  4 20:55:15 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:55:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: biztax
In-Reply-To: <19991005034042.23993.rocketmail@web108.yahoomail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910042054520.24659-100000@well.com>
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http://www.cnnfn.com/1999/10/04/smbusiness/q_smallbiztax/



From davew@well.com Mon Oct  4 21:22:31 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:22:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: rsatava <rsatava@darpa.mil>
cc: "'asulekoi@sysplan.com'" <asulekoi@sysplan.com>, 
    "'jsanders@tgtg.com'" <jsanders@tgtg.com>, 
    "'clyburn@tatrc.org'" <clyburn@tatrc.org>
Subject: Re: Ade Sule-Koiki
In-Reply-To: <51218164936AD211BB7508002BB914797909E9@msx-2.darpa.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910042120120.24659-100000@well.com>
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thanks rick..

still trying to work out measurement with tom ferral at oak ridge..

seems we may need some more equiptment to measure the whole spectrum ot
the
"beam of life"

i will keep you informed about the measurements



davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct  5 11:33:06 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:32:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: wohn2@yahoo.com
Subject: for marines to see
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910051132320.8812-100000@well.com>
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http://sunrise.npac.syr.edu/pulsar-stat/guest/Dave+mineview1.html


From davew@well.com Tue Oct  5 14:50:15 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:50:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Craig Campbell <craig@adaboy.com>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam man
In-Reply-To: <37FA42BA.79BF7F62@adaboy.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910051449140.21497-100000@well.com>
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craig

email my friend kenny

he has the email

mention you talked to him in siggraph

kenny's email is wavz@intr.net

davew



From davew@well.com Wed Oct  6 09:16:31 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Bokovoy, Joanna L." <JoannaBo@baylordallas.edu>
Subject: Re: Howdy!
In-Reply-To: <C5C38D1B3C97D1119F2200805F15A976088DED54@EXCHSVR1>
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hi joni

dissertation going well

have great committee....

i am traveling more then ever... in fact i just arrived in spain today

we have helped a little girl over here that is very disabled... the
company im working with is doing an interactive kids play-chat internet
thing...

like starbright but with out the evil  hollywood influence


hope all is well at baylor....

what are you doing there

i have several friends there

may see you there some time

stay sane

davew



From davew@well.com Wed Oct  6 09:20:10 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Michael Hopmeier <hopmeier@gnt.net>
Subject: Re: Working Group on Unconventional Biological Pathogen Threats, 17
 October 1999
In-Reply-To: <008c01bf0fb6$477e7e80$045b31cc@hopmeier.unconventional-inc.com>
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mike  

i will be there 

also i will be bringing some interesting material that needs to be (blown
up(


ie i need to test some eod  llike properties.... this is from a program of
regina....

i think you will find this stuff interesting...

lots of cool stuff to discuss


c u in  flordia

davew




From davew@well.com Wed Oct  6 09:22:36 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:22:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: mindtel@yahoo.com
cc: edlipson@syr.edu
Subject: Working Group on Unconventional Biological Pathogen Threats, 17
 October 1999 (fwd)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:50:14 -0500
From: Michael Hopmeier <hopmeier@gnt.net>
To: Shaun Jones <sjones@darpa.mil>, Stephen Morse <smorse@darpa.mil>,
     Rob Carnes <rcarnes@darpa.mil>,
     Gerald Parker <gerald_parker@detrick.army.mil>,
     Josh Lederberg <jsl@rockvax.rockefeller.edu>,
     George Whitesides <gwhitesides@gmwgroup.harvard.edu>,
     Dave Warner <davew@well.com>, Annette Sobel <alsobel@sandia.gov>,
     Mike Carns <MikeCarns@aol.com>, George Poste <George_poste@SBPHRD.com>,
     Richard Evans <richarde@tiac.net>,
     Joe Bielitzki <jbielitzki@mail.arc.nasa.gov>, CDALLAS@merc.rx.uga.edu,
     RFALKM@pol.net, John S. Parker <mg_john_s_parker@ftdetrck-ccmail.army.mil>
Cc: P.K. Carlton <paul.carlton@usafsg.bolling.af.mil>,
     Mike Goldblatt <mgoldblatt@darpa.mil>, Scott Lillibridge <srl1@cdc.gov>
Subject: Working Group on Unconventional Biological Pathogen Threats,
     17 October 1999

On behalf of Major General P.K. Carlton, Dr. Scott Lillibridge and Dr. Mike
Goldblatt, I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to attend a
working group on Unconventional Biological Pathogen Threats to be held in
Fort Walton Beach, Florida in conjunction with the Advanced Technology
Applications to Combat Casualty Care Conference.  The working group will
convene at 1600 on 17 October at the Ramada Inn Beach Resort (details
available at www.unconventional-inc.com).  The goal of the working group is
to develop a description of the current biological threat, how this threat
is related to past incidents and the result of past responses and develop a
methodology for addressing this threat in the future.

While most analysis and assessment of bio-threats is focused on the
"conventional" employment of war agents and their use as developed during
the years of the cold war, the actual threat as based on purely medical and
scientific principals remains to be thoroughly analyzed and placed in the
context of modern society.  To address this issue a working group,
Co-chaired by Dr. Scott R. Lillibridge, Director, Bioterrorism Preparedness
and Response Program, National Center for Infectious Disease, CDC, Dr.
Michael Goldblatt, Deputy Director, DSO, DARPA and Major General Paul K.
Carlton, USAF, Commander, Air Force Medical Operations Agency will be
convened at 1600 on 17 October at the ATACCC Conference site.

The purpose of the group will be to discuss issues of biological and
pathogenic assault (whether natural or manmade) and how the medical, public
safety and military communities must be able to address these issues to
ensure the health and well being of the general public.  Topics to be
discussed include:
    a.. Potential threats from pathogens independent of cause (natural,
manmade accidental, manmade intentional)
    b.. Evaluation of medical, scientific and public health responses; past,
present and future
    c.. Evaluation of threat from scientific and medical point of view, not
conventional military or national security analysis
    d.. Review of past incidents and their extrapolation to current society
    e.. Potential response processes and methodologies
    f.. Possible vectors and targets of attack (food supply, human vectors
in refugee camps, etc.)
The co-chairs and I will personally lead the discussion and address many of
the issues that have recently surfaced concerning the possibility of
attacks, their potential affects and most importantly the necessary steps by
the medical and public safety communities needed to combat these threats.

The tentative agenda is as follows:

1600    Open, welcome and overview of purpose of Working Group
            Michael Hopmeier, Technical Chair, ATACCC

1610     The Unconventional Biological Pathogen Threat from a Medical and
Scientific View
            MG Paul Carlton, Commander, Air Force Medical Operations Agency

1630    The CDC's new National Bioterrorism Preparedness Program
            Dr. Scott Lillibridge, Director, Bioterrorism Preparedness and
Response, CDC

1650    DARPA, Advanced Technology and the New Threat; What are the issues
and concerns
            Dr. Michael Goldblatt, Deputy Director, DSO, DARPA

1710    A Case study in the New World of Emerging Biologic Threats; West
Nile Virus and the Process Being Followed
            Scott Lillibridge

1740    Open discussion

1800    Food/drink to prevent hypoglycemia from setting in

2000    Sum up and disperse

Dress for this will be CASUAL and open discussion and informality will be
HIGHLY encouraged.  The purpose is to discuss and exchange ideas.  In the
next few days some background information papers will be sent to you
outlining some of the issues to be reviewed and setting the initial tone for
the meeting.

If you have any questions, please contact me at (850-243-4411,
hopmeier@gnt.net) for further details.

As you can imagine this is a topic of considerable interest to numerous
people.  However, to ensure that we can in fact have a productive discussion
attendance will necessarily need to be limited.  For this reason this
workgroup will be by invitation only.  If you are unable to attend please
contact me if you wish to recommend a substitute.

Sincerely,


Michael J. Hopmeier
Technical Chairman, ATACCC




Michael J. Hopmeier
Chief, Innovative and Unconventional Concepts
Unconventional Concepts, Inc.
P.O. Box 1626
Eglin AFB, FL   32542
850-243-4411, Fax 850-243-5279
e-mail: hopmeier@gnt.net







From davew@well.com Wed Oct  6 09:26:00 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:25:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Robin Davies <robind@wizdomsystems.com>
Subject: Re: NewsWiz Special Edition-Free Pass - REALLY for IBPS'99 - TRUE!
In-Reply-To: <01BF0FD9.5D590C20.robind@wizdomsystems.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910060923180.5082-100000@well.com>
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robin

i have never been able to read your messages  because of the way that you
attach them....

if you want me to get any info you will need to change you will need to
change your ways....

or take me off the list.....

davew

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Robin Davies wrote:

> 
> Call for your FREE PASS to the IBPS'99 & IKMS'99 at the Hyatt Regency Reston,
> VA, October 6-8,  to meet with  DWiz!
> 
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From davew@well.com Wed Oct  6 10:37:01 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:36:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Craig Campbell <craig@adaboy.com>
Subject: Re: Amsterdam man
In-Reply-To: <37FA42BA.79BF7F62@adaboy.com>
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craig  did you get my last message???

did you look at www.motek.com for info 

davew




From davew@well.com Fri Oct  8 05:00:20 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:00:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "..." <giessa@mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Re: Investigation from Portugal
In-Reply-To: <002201bf10a5$1cdda800$460000cf@comp038>
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hello...

actually im in spain today....we have connectd a child in seville to be
able to communicate via the computer

all info i have cound be found at www.pulsar.org...
be sure to explore

davew

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, ... wrote:

> 
> Hello, I`m Raquel
> I am a physiotherapy student, and i am doing search in the issue related with child brain injurie that can be help by a treatment that envolves dolphins.
> I need information related to this matter, becouse  i need for a project to finish university.
> My email is hmcoelho@hotmail.com .
> Thank you for your atention.
>  
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct  8 05:07:21 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:07:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: chairmans preferred
In-Reply-To: <19991007183119.898.rocketmail@web127.yahoomail.com>
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hey baby

could you please ups it to the americana for monday am delivery

thanks

1234

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, jan wrote:

> Your new card came in the mail today...
> member# 1369016
> expires 10/00
> 
> hope your having a wonderful time!
> 
> xx00me
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct  8 05:14:48 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:14:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: invoice & a few questions
In-Reply-To: <37FD16C2.14B935D8@trapezium.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910080510090.17583-100000@well.com>
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jojo

send invoice   also invoice for the  computer and software you need to do
the linux thing.....no problem.... i am in spain and will be back sunday

i can get you a check by next week....

on the graphics thing ... i will be in the la area next week  lets connect
i need to have some real time discussions on what is needed for the demo
in early nov....   we can meet at the next planet site  in pasadena....

im thinking thursday or friday
davew

On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Joh Johannsen wrote:

> should I send invoice for Sept?
> 
> Also, I bought a Linux computer, box only.  Have until Feb to pay,
> charged on Dell card, they said no payments until Feb.  Its a $1500 box,
> its "in the mail".  You want to own it?
> 
> Would like to start updating neattools for Linux -- need latest Linux
> version source (will email EJ again to ask about where it is) and latest
> Windows source for reference (probably can get by without this for a
> while, though, I do have some version of the Windows source)
> 
> Got transparency control in, current Java3d does it well only in some
> cases.  The data display "mountains" don't handle transparency very well
> -- it works, but when new signal data comes in, the transparency
> disappears -- it jumps back to not transparent for a second (kind of a
> strobe effect).  Seems to work great for everything else.  How did you
> want to use transparency?  I can get around this strobe-effect problem
> if you think it would be useful.  Otherwise, I'll move on to something
> else on the list.
> 
> JJ
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct  8 05:16:52 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 05:16:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: another question
In-Reply-To: <37FD1718.822AE0C@trapezium.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910080515420.17583-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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go ahead and get a gps device and make a module for it....invoice for
stuff you buy for it.... yes we want it.....

davew


On Thu, 7 Oct 1999, Joh Johannsen wrote:

> you doing anything with GPS, or do you want to do anything with it?
> 
> would be kind of weird, but makes sense as input device if you are
> running neattools on a wearable.
> 
> JJ
> 
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct  8 10:08:34 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 10:08:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu
Subject: Re:interactive programs for children in hospital
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991005182513.009f9200@mail.vsdevices.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910081001001.2095-100000@well.com>
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hi all
i am trying to find a list or reference of all the programs --or piolt
efforts to provide interactive  multimedia/ interactive environments for
children in the hospital.....

other than starbright.......

to include  virtual worlds

internet chat

video teleconferences


...anything  in any country,,, which is for kids and is not a thinly
cloaked  commercial effort.....

thanks for any pointers

c u all at mmvr-2000
davew




From davew@well.com Sun Oct 10 06:49:11 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 06:49:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jim Westwood <westwood@uconect.net>
cc: karen@amainc.com
Subject: Re: You've been elected!!!
In-Reply-To: <v04003a01b423e958594c@[204.60.154.59]>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910100648260.7637-100000@well.com>
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ok  ok  ill be there....


also medified cyberarium edit os good to go....

davew



From davew@well.com Sun Oct 10 06:51:48 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 06:51:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Myronkru@aol.com
Subject: Re:interactive programs for children in hospital
In-Reply-To: <0.6161e5de.252f8dd3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910100650520.7637-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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myron


sounds interesting..
also the commercial thing was aimed at starbright.....
...

do you have any tape of the event...
davew



From davew@well.com Sun Oct 10 07:37:23 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 07:37:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: wavz <wavz@intr.net>
Subject: Re: where i am
In-Reply-To: <37F77745.8E3D37CB@intr.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910100736590.18002-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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hey dude  where are u??

davew




From davew@well.com Sun Oct 10 16:17:23 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 16:17:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Denis Roark <dk.roark@starpower.net>
Subject: Re: Address
In-Reply-To: <000a01bf0e92$7f0c7480$388ba4d8@hpcustomer>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910101615280.9400-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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denis...

checked out property....
looks workable if you can get price,,,,

needs some work... which is good for us if we want to haggle the price


am in dc till tue noon

davew



From davew@well.com Sun Oct 10 19:00:36 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Rita <rita@telemed.ru>
Subject: Re: Agreements
In-Reply-To: <37F8D6AA.427CB442@telemed.ru>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910101859310.3019-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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hi rita

did you get the agreements??  

i will wire the 5k when i hear from you

(may take a few days as im traveling

davew





From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 06:06:58 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:06:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Rita <rita@netra.telemed.ru>
Subject: Re: Agreement
In-Reply-To: <3801B8B1.8524FA52@telemed.ru>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910110604580.4152-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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great...

i will have my partner send the money as to the bank listed on agreement


i look forward to comming to russia next spring and seeing the scientists
and engineers....

and of course you and oleg....

stay well 

thanks
davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 06:08:08 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:07:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Rita <rita@netra.telemed.ru>
Subject: Re: Package
In-Reply-To: <3801E947.C6F44CF7@telemed.ru>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910110607290.4152-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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rita   no problem
i will sign the agreement from before and send it back...

rules are rules.....

davew

On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Rita wrote:

> Dear Dave,
> Today, we have sent back the signed Agreements by the Federal Express
> post.
> Along with them, I've also sent the old (as of 24 June, 1999) Deed of
> Gift: the account requires the original. It is really my fault, that I
> have not explained the issue properly to you. However, would you,
> please, sign it, and send back to us one copy.
> Sorry to have caused you so much trouble.
> Yours Sincerely,
> Rita
> 
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 06:28:23 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 06:28:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: sjones <sjones@darpa.mil>
Subject: Re: ataccc
In-Reply-To: <71FB3F91A596D211960208002BB91BA378092C@msx-4.darpa.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910110627390.4152-100000@well.com>
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s

you going to the med thing next week in flordia???/

davew


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 11:27:26 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:27:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Myronkru@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re:interactive programs for children in hospital
In-Reply-To: <0.64ae96dc.253383a9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111125580.12127-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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myron

i was in spain last week
meet some  people you know... at silicon artists...

small world huh....

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 12:58:04 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:57:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Sall, Barry" <Barry.Sall@parexel.com>
Subject: Re: j  not jay
In-Reply-To: <8166A44E68CBD211A9FA08002BC356E80366C361@P1USXBO3>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111254590.8817-100000@well.com>
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barry

was good to talk with you today

we will collect our thoughts and info  and anything else and get back to
you asap

thanks
davew


also re email....
the problem 


it is jsanders@tgtg.com     not jaysanders


davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 12:58:45 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:58:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: FW: Mail System Error - Returned Mail (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111258070.8817-310000@well.com>
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jay

he had  jay not j sanders

davew


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Dave,

Here is the message I attempted to send Jay.

Barry

-----Original Message-----
From: Mail Administrator [mailto:Postmaster@eddie.intr.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 5:02 PM
To: Barry.Sall@parexel.com
Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail


This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason:

A message was not delivered because it would create a mail loop.

The addresses below do not belong to any accounts on this machine,
so an attempt was made to forward the message to the destination
host.  However, the destination host is THIS machine, but under
a different name.

Here are a few possible solutions for clearing up this problem:

      - return the mail since the address was invalid

      - add an account or alias for the recipient and
        resubmit the message

If this machine should be handling all mail for the destination
host, it should be added to the list of Local-Mail-Domains in
the system configuration form.

     Destination host: tgtg.com

The following recipients did not receive this message:

     <jaysanders@tgtg.com>

Please reply to Postmaster@eddie.intr.net
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Dave,</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Here is the message I attempted to send Jay.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Barry</FONT>
</P>

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From: "Sall, Barry" <Barry.Sall@parexel.com>
To: 'Jay Sanders MD' <jaysanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Name of device
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:20:39 -0400
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Jay, 

Does this device have a name?  I will be glad to use whatever term you wish,
otherwise I will refer to it as the IR/microwave generator.

Barry 


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From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 13:54:44 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:54:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Borrelli, Louise" <LBorrelli@fallschurch.esys.com>
Subject: Re: tuesday am
In-Reply-To: <C2416AA8DBFED1119B9500805F657E0401145C85@xchange02.fcd.esys.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111350240.7616-100000@well.com>
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hi louise

i will be droping by tomorrow around 10ish am

could you have my name called in

i think that i still have access ...but i dont know here your new lab is

would like to see the progress... and discuss a couple of minor things....

just had a chat with cori..

as far as i can tell we are on track....


look forward to seeing you and kevin tomorrow

if there is a need fro me to be in earlier...
my pager is 800 950 0849

otherwise i will be at the entrance around 10...

i hve a flight out of bwi at 3ish... so i will only be able to stay till
noon or so

davew





From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 13:59:28 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 13:59:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: dc@aquathought.com
Subject: ping...respond plesae
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111358190.7616-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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hey dave 

lots to tell you ....

where are you 

can i call you

how is it all going

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 14:38:49 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 14:38:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Michael Hopmeier <hopmeier@gnt.net>
Subject: Re: Working Group on Unconventional Biological Pathogen Threats, 17
 October 1999
In-Reply-To: <008c01bf0fb6$477e7e80$045b31cc@hopmeier.unconventional-inc.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111437070.7616-100000@well.com>
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mike

your link to agenda is empty
http://www.unconventional-inc.com/Final/agenda1.html
need schedule info   where can i find it???



thanks
davew


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 15:33:52 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:33:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Michael Hopmeier <hopmeier@gnt.net>
Subject: Re: ATACCC Agenda
In-Reply-To: <009101bf1432$27d8c060$163c31cc@hopmeier.unconventional-inc.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111532570.27841-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
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doesnot show up in netscape

works in explorer???????

reloaded several times... any clue????

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 19:50:41 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:50:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Michael Hopmeier <hopmeier@gnt.net>
Subject: RE: ATACCC Agenda
In-Reply-To: <009f01bf1447$68bb4480$163c31cc@hopmeier.unconventional-inc.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111945410.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
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mike

was not able to read attachment   but that was more a function (or lack of
function of pine....which i use for email...)


on the subject of your seb site

i did use ie5 and saw it fine.... must have been made with an evil
micro-soft product...guess thats redundant....

any way im there till wed pm at least....

looking forward to showing you some new stuff.....

"bullet proof" bouncy stuff and the "beam of life" wound healer

really do need to blow up some of the bullet proof stuff...


from the future
davew





From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 19:58:21 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: times and dates
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111951440.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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hey baby

what a long chat,,,,, hope you barffed ok.....

we really need to work some of this...otherwise it could be toxic for our
relationship.....and i dont want that.....




need to leave flordia pm of the 20th or early am of the 21st and end up in
boston....
back to dc night of 21st or am of 22ed...any dc airport is ok

(please confirm the san diego to flordia up grades...tonight...)

then need to go from dc to syracuse late pm of 26th ..return to dc on 31st

i think i have a nov 2ed flt to san diego already


thanks
1234......


c u tomorrow night



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 20:03:27 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:03:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Michael Hopmeier <hopmeier@gnt.net>
Subject: RE: ATACCC Agenda
In-Reply-To: <000201bf145d$50625980$163c31cc@hopmeier.unconventional-inc.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111959510.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

re micro-soft....

un like women  ... i see micro soft as a tumorous growth which is
metastatic .. and we are working on a cure......

the bad news about microsoft is that it has invaded vital organs and much
care needs to be taken to remove it with out killing the host....

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 20:05:19 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:05:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janice@camswitch.com
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112004470.26553-120000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="TAA29564.939697112/smtp.well.com"
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112004471.26553@well.com>
Status: O
X-Status: 

--TAA29564.939697112/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112004472.26553@well.com>

please dont make me reset all my email address for you


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@well.com>
To: davew@well.com
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable

The original message was received at Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
from davew@well.com [208.178.101.2]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<janzoo@yahoo.com>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
.... while talking to mx1.mail.yahoo.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
554 <janzoo@yahoo.com>... Service unavailable

--TAA29564.939697112/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: MESSAGE/DELIVERY-STATUS; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112004473.26553@well.com>
Content-Description: 

Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.well.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; well.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:58:21 -0700 (PDT)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; janzoo@yahoo.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.2
Remote-MTA: DNS; mx1.mail.yahoo.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:58:32 -0700 (PDT)

--TAA29564.939697112/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822; CHARSET=US-ASCII
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Content-Description: 

Return-Path: <davew@well.com>
Received: from well.com (davew@well.com [208.178.101.2])
          by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP
	  id TAA29561 for <janzoo@yahoo.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 19:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: times and dates
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910111951440.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII


hey baby

what a long chat,,,,, hope you barffed ok.....

we really need to work some of this...otherwise it could be toxic for our
relationship.....and i dont want that.....




need to leave flordia pm of the 20th or early am of the 21st and end up in
boston....
back to dc night of 21st or am of 22ed...any dc airport is ok

(please confirm the san diego to flordia up grades...tonight...)

then need to go from dc to syracuse late pm of 26th ..return to dc on 31st

i think i have a nov 2ed flt to san diego already


thanks
1234......


c u tomorrow night



--TAA29564.939697112/smtp.well.com--

From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 20:06:46 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Janice Robertson <janicer@well.com>
Subject: did you get this
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112006100.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: RO
X-Status: 

hey baby

what a long chat,,,,, hope you barffed ok.....

we really need to work some of this...otherwise it could be toxic for our
relationship.....and i dont want that.....




need to leave flordia pm of the 20th or early am of the 21st and end up in
boston....
back to dc night of 21st or am of 22ed...any dc airport is ok

(please confirm the san diego to flordia up grades...tonight...)

then need to go from dc to syracuse late pm of 26th ..return to dc on 31st

i think i have a nov 2ed flt to san diego already


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 20:12:06 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:12:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Janice Robertson <janicer@well.com>
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112011480.26553-120000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com"
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112011481.26553@well.com>
Status: O
X-Status: 

--UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112011482.26553@well.com>



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:07:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@well.com>
To: davew@well.com
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable

The original message was received at Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:49 -0700 (PDT)
from mail.well.com [208.178.101.4]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<janzoo@yahoo.com>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
.... while talking to mx1.mail.yahoo.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
554 <janzoo@yahoo.com>... Service unavailable

--UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: MESSAGE/DELIVERY-STATUS; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112011483.26553@well.com>
Content-Description: 

Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.well.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; mail.well.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:49 -0700 (PDT)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; janzoo@yahoo.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.2
Remote-MTA: DNS; mx1.mail.yahoo.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:07:33 -0700 (PDT)

--UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com
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Received: from mail.well.com (mail.well.com [208.178.101.4])
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Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147])
	by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01100
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Received: from well.com (davew@well.com [208.178.101.2])
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	  id UAA01905 for <janicer@well.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:45 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Janice Robertson <janicer@well.com>
Subject: did you get this
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112006100.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

hey baby

what a long chat,,,,, hope you barffed ok.....

we really need to work some of this...otherwise it could be toxic for our
relationship.....and i dont want that.....




need to leave flordia pm of the 20th or early am of the 21st and end up in
boston....
back to dc night of 21st or am of 22ed...any dc airport is ok

(please confirm the san diego to flordia up grades...tonight...)

then need to go from dc to syracuse late pm of 26th ..return to dc on 31st

i think i have a nov 2ed flt to san diego already


--UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com--

From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 20:14:01 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:14:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Michael Hopmeier <hopmeier@gnt.net>
Subject: RE: ATACCC Agenda
In-Reply-To: <001201bf145f$5c4a8720$163c31cc@hopmeier.unconventional-inc.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112013290.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

on women  yes.... in women  no

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 20:22:19 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:22:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112021550.26553-120000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="UAA03137.939697955/smtp.well.com"
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112021551.26553@well.com>
Status: O
X-Status: 

--UAA03137.939697955/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112021552.26553@well.com>



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@well.com>
To: davew@well.com
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable

The original message was received at Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:12:07 -0700 (PDT)
from mail.well.com [208.178.101.4]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<janzoo@yahoo.com>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
.... while talking to mx1.mail.yahoo.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
554 <janzoo@yahoo.com>... Service unavailable

--UAA03137.939697955/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: MESSAGE/DELIVERY-STATUS; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112021553.26553@well.com>
Content-Description: 

Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.well.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; mail.well.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:12:07 -0700 (PDT)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; janzoo@yahoo.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.2
Remote-MTA: DNS; mx1.mail.yahoo.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:12:35 -0700 (PDT)

--UAA03137.939697955/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112021554.26553@well.com>
Content-Description: 

Return-Path: <davew@well.com>
Received: from mail.well.com (mail.well.com [208.178.101.4])
          by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP
	  id UAA03135 for <janzoo@yahoo.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:12:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147])
	by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02503
	for <janicer@mail.well.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:12:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from well.com (davew@well.com [208.178.101.2])
          by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP
	  id UAA03129 for <janicer@well.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:12:05 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:12:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Janice Robertson <janicer@well.com>
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112011480.26553-120000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com"
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112011481.26553@well.com>

  This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,
  while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.
  Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info.

--UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:07:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@well.com>
To: davew@well.com
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable

The original message was received at Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:49 -0700 (PDT)
from mail.well.com [208.178.101.4]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<janzoo@yahoo.com>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
..... while talking to mx1.mail.yahoo.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
554 <janzoo@yahoo.com>... Service unavailable

--UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: MESSAGE/DELIVERY-STATUS; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112011483.26553@well.com>
Content-Description: 

Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.well.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; mail.well.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:49 -0700 (PDT)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; janzoo@yahoo.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.2
Remote-MTA: DNS; mx1.mail.yahoo.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:07:33 -0700 (PDT)

--UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822; CHARSET=US-ASCII
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Content-Description: 

Return-Path: <davew@well.com>
Received: from mail.well.com (mail.well.com [208.178.101.4])
          by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP
	  id UAA01930 for <janzoo@yahoo.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:49 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147])
	by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01100
	for <janicer@mail.well.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:47 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from well.com (davew@well.com [208.178.101.2])
          by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP
	  id UAA01905 for <janicer@well.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:45 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:06:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Janice Robertson <janicer@well.com>
Subject: did you get this
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112006100.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

hey baby

what a long chat,,,,, hope you barffed ok.....

we really need to work some of this...otherwise it could be toxic for our
relationship.....and i dont want that.....




need to leave flordia pm of the 20th or early am of the 21st and end up in
boston....
back to dc night of 21st or am of 22ed...any dc airport is ok

(please confirm the san diego to flordia up grades...tonight...)

then need to go from dc to syracuse late pm of 26th ..return to dc on 31st

i think i have a nov 2ed flt to san diego already


--UAA01936.939697653/smtp.well.com--

--UAA03137.939697955/smtp.well.com--

From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 20:54:12 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Janice Robertson <janicer@well.com>
Subject: bow  wow wow
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112053420.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: RO
X-Status: 

Dog's birthday party gets
                  busted for having too many
                  people in park

                  October 7, 1999 
                  Web posted at: 3:22 PM EDT (1922 GMT) 

                  NEW YORK (AP) -- Every dog has
                  its day -- except for Byron, a
                  3-year-old Labrador mix whose
                  birthday party ended with a ticket
                  from a parks enforcement officer. 

                  Byron's owner, Brian Thibeault, 31,
                  was issued a summons for the Aug.
                  18 party in a Manhattan park by the
                  officer who told him he had to issue an unlawful
assembly ticket because
                  there were more than 20 guests (not counting the dogs.) 

                  The party included balloons, goody bags with doggy
treats, and a cake from
                  a dog bakery called Wow Bow. Byron, who got a
glow-in-the-dark ball
                  and other gifts, even wore his dandiest duds -- a tuxedo
made by a
                  neighbor. 

                  Thibeault said he told the officer he didn't think he
needed a permit for the
                  event. 

                  "Everyone was on a leash and everyone was well-behaved,"
Thibeault said.
                  "There was no barking. There was no music, no noise." 

                  The case, which was reported in the Daily News today,
was dropped
                  Tuesday after the newspaper called the city Parks
Department. 

                  "It was a matter of bad judgment," an unidentified
spokesman said. "It was
                  unwarranted. A warning should have been issued." 

                  Parks Commissioner Henry Stern said the rule that a
permit is needed for
                  park gatherings is generally used to target very large,
organized events like
                  concerts and theatrical performances. 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 11 20:59:48 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janice@camswitch.com
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112059090.26553-120000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: MULTIPART/Mixed; REPORT-TYPE=delivery-status; BOUNDARY="UAA12930.939700469/smtp.well.com"
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112059091.26553@well.com>
Status: O
X-Status: 

--UAA12930.939700469/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112059092.26553@well.com>

did you know that all you email is getting bounced
every thing that is pointed to janzoo is rejected

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@well.com>
To: davew@well.com
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable

The original message was received at Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
from mail.well.com [208.178.101.4]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<janzoo@yahoo.com>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
.... while talking to mx1.mail.yahoo.com.:
>>> DATA
<<< 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
554 <janzoo@yahoo.com>... Service unavailable

--UAA12930.939700469/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: MESSAGE/DELIVERY-STATUS; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112059093.26553@well.com>
Content-Description: 

Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.well.com
Received-From-MTA: DNS; mail.well.com
Arrival-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:25 -0700 (PDT)

Final-Recipient: RFC822; janzoo@yahoo.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.2.2
Remote-MTA: DNS; mx1.mail.yahoo.com
Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 552 qdirdel.1 error 100:User is over the quota.  You can try again later.
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:29 -0700 (PDT)

--UAA12930.939700469/smtp.well.com
Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Content-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112059094.26553@well.com>
Content-Description: 

Return-Path: <davew@well.com>
Received: from mail.well.com (mail.well.com [208.178.101.4])
          by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP
	  id UAA12927 for <janzoo@yahoo.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from smtp.well.com (nobody@smtp.well.com [206.80.6.147])
	by mail.well.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13248
	for <janicer@mail.well.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from well.com (davew@well.com [208.178.101.2])
          by smtp.well.com (8.8.6/8.8.4) with ESMTP
	  id UAA12881 for <janicer@well.com>; Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:12 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 20:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Janice Robertson <janicer@well.com>
Subject: bow  wow wow
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910112053420.26553-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Dog's birthday party gets
                  busted for having too many
                  people in park

                  October 7, 1999 
                  Web posted at: 3:22 PM EDT (1922 GMT) 

                  NEW YORK (AP) -- Every dog has
                  its day -- except for Byron, a
                  3-year-old Labrador mix whose
                  birthday party ended with a ticket
                  from a parks enforcement officer. 

                  Byron's owner, Brian Thibeault, 31,
                  was issued a summons for the Aug.
                  18 party in a Manhattan park by the
                  officer who told him he had to issue an unlawful
assembly ticket because
                  there were more than 20 guests (not counting the dogs.) 

                  The party included balloons, goody bags with doggy
treats, and a cake from
                  a dog bakery called Wow Bow. Byron, who got a
glow-in-the-dark ball
                  and other gifts, even wore his dandiest duds -- a tuxedo
made by a
                  neighbor. 

                  Thibeault said he told the officer he didn't think he
needed a permit for the
                  event. 

                  "Everyone was on a leash and everyone was well-behaved,"
Thibeault said.
                  "There was no barking. There was no music, no noise." 

                  The case, which was reported in the Daily News today,
was dropped
                  Tuesday after the newspaper called the city Parks
Department. 

                  "It was a matter of bad judgment," an unidentified
spokesman said. "It was
                  unwarranted. A warning should have been issued." 

                  Parks Commissioner Henry Stern said the rule that a
permit is needed for
                  park gatherings is generally used to target very large,
organized events like
                  concerts and theatrical performances. 


--UAA12930.939700469/smtp.well.com--

From davew@well.com Tue Oct 12 05:18:33 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 05:18:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: info@qualitycare.com
Subject: Re: your mail
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991011220212.006c4bc0@janzoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910120445430.26310-100000@well.com>
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baby

you dont have to quit... doing those little projects...

you wrote..I just strike out every chance I get...

this is a little distressing......to hear you say that and have that kind
of attitude....

while i agree that it may look that way to you.... may i suggest that
there are a few things that you can do to keep this from happening...

these are little pearls that i have picked up un the last couple of
years.....


the first is to communicate....

if you are going to count on using the resoures of others you have to let
them know...the whole truth....not just pieces


the second is to focus.. and stay focused and not have so many things
going on... as it dilutes your effectiveness

make a plan...write it down...keep track of where you are in your plan

have well defined rules for changing the plan

the third is to pick projects that you understand...
even the best little league players strike out all the time when they try
to bat aginst the major league pitchers....

fourth is document.....document everything...in a realiable way so you are
not spending time trying to remember/convince some one else what is going
on,, or what has happened





what are your goals in life
are they realistic
what can you do to make them realisitc


remember that the things you chose affect those around you


....i am very confused by your choices......it is one thing to play and
have a hobby.... experiment and try lots of things.... it is another to
expect others to take you seriously when you dont act serious....


you are a kind and gentile person... untill you start doing
business in the technology field...then your behavior is harsh and
cold....it is almost like two
people.....



you are trying to get rich quick.... ie with out putting in the effort
that it takes to have a stable progressive project


this leads to chronic failure...and hence you feel bummed out ...


why cant you pick somthing that you are naturally good at...
somthing which exploits the great talents you have as a person....

you are at your best when you are helping others....(including the little
furries)   why cant you be content being who you are?????

you have a nice home
you have a nice car to drive
you have plenty of food
you dont have to work everyday...like most people...
..you have more computer power at your fingertips then most...
you have plenty of cloths

you have all the pets you can handle.....

your white....
your beautiful
...




maybe you need to consider what you have and decide if it is worth
risking....


i care for you ... more than anyone on the planet (and off the planet)
but i dont seem to be able to give you what you want/need
mostly because you dont tell me what that is.....

you make choices that push us farther and farther apart....

please think about what im trying to tell you here
..i really do care... and i want to try to make things better...

if it is a steady paycheck... youve got it...2k/month
(from now on)
...

but you need to be honest and open with me about what is going on in your
head,,,,,

goto go to work.... cu to night....
1234....really1234


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 12 12:35:00 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 12:34:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: swax <swax@darpa.mil>
cc: "'Cunniff, Phil'" <pcunniff@natick-amed02.army.mil>, 
    rdugan <rdugan@darpa.mil>
Subject: Re: Armor Info
In-Reply-To: <71FB3F91A596D211960208002BB91BA34BA6D8@msx-4.darpa.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910121234330.18060-100000@well.com>
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thanks  i will get to it tomorrow

davew



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 09:52:10 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 09:52:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Bob Watson <info@telemedtech.com>
Subject: Re: ECU Telemedicine Center receives $4.6M contract
In-Reply-To: <01BF1550.82007BE0.info@telemedtech.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910130951100.7821-100000@well.com>
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hey bob....

i wonder how this happened  ;-)

great to get what is deserved,,,,,


good luck in all
davew



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 10:02:23 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 10:02:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: David Cole <dc@learningsoft.net>
Subject: Re: ping...
In-Reply-To: <006101bf14ba$2c643320$24701ad1@learningsoft.net>
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hey dave...

are your phone #'s the same???
work i mean.....

davew



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 11:12:35 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:12:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Charlie Kesler <flinch_backwards@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Neural Computation Symposium
In-Reply-To: <19991013144123.7426.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910131112040.7821-100000@well.com>
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dont think i can make this....

will be doing my phd march thing then.... if all goes well
daveww




From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 11:19:52 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:19:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: medibolt@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Hi -Everything is possible! (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910131119360.7821-100000@well.com>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:05:51 -0800
From: Pamela Reilly Contag <prcontag@xenogen.com>
To: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
Cc: cbellinger@xenogen.com, cable@xenogen.com
Subject: Re: Hi -Everything is possible!

Hi David,

Yes I did get your message but was confused about my schedule.  Nov. 12-15
and Nov 19-22 look pretty good.  I was hoping that two people from Xenogen
could help you set up, answer questions and plan/execute some experiments
with our luminescent strains.  Since this is in vitro it should only take a
couple days to do.  We are very relaxed around here and if you try to throw
too much corporate culture our way we get nervous and function less
efficiently.  Mike Cable is our CTO and Carol is our resident infectious
disease expert and Sr. scientist, they have many other responsibilities but
I find they are quite capable of multitasking so your presence should not
cause much turmoil.  I look at this as a DARPA type experience and we are
all interested to learn more about your beam of life. What do all of you
think?

Pam

Dave Warner wrote:

> great....
>
> my west coast reality is
> oct 13-15
>
> nov 1-3
>
> nov 12-15
>
> nov 19-22
>
> any of these work for you
>
> also
> need reality therapy on
>
> what can we do
> how fast can we do it
>
> re.. bugs in dishes,,,
>
> .. other cells in dishes
>
> ..what should i know before i come there as to background info
> experimental designs....
>
> ... also if there are any sensitivities --psycho-social...corp
> culture...corp structure that i should be aware of
>
> ..."guest behavior expectation matrix"...
>
> will this first visit cost me??/
> if so how much...
>
> im new at this bio-tech-stunt science thing,,,,so i dont have a feel for
> protocol.....
>
> ...id like to buy a clue....
>
> from the future
> davew






From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 11:22:12 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 11:22:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: qmcbolt@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Hi -Everything is possible! (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910131121550.7821-100000@well.com>
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:05:51 -0800
From: Pamela Reilly Contag <prcontag@xenogen.com>
To: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
Cc: cbellinger@xenogen.com, cable@xenogen.com
Subject: Re: Hi -Everything is possible!

Hi David,

Yes I did get your message but was confused about my schedule.  Nov. 12-15
and Nov 19-22 look pretty good.  I was hoping that two people from Xenogen
could help you set up, answer questions and plan/execute some experiments
with our luminescent strains.  Since this is in vitro it should only take a
couple days to do.  We are very relaxed around here and if you try to throw
too much corporate culture our way we get nervous and function less
efficiently.  Mike Cable is our CTO and Carol is our resident infectious
disease expert and Sr. scientist, they have many other responsibilities but
I find they are quite capable of multitasking so your presence should not
cause much turmoil.  I look at this as a DARPA type experience and we are
all interested to learn more about your beam of life. What do all of you
think?

Pam

Dave Warner wrote:

> great....
>
> my west coast reality is
> oct 13-15
>
> nov 1-3
>
> nov 12-15
>
> nov 19-22
>
> any of these work for you
>
> also
> need reality therapy on
>
> what can we do
> how fast can we do it
>
> re.. bugs in dishes,,,
>
> .. other cells in dishes
>
> ..what should i know before i come there as to background info
> experimental designs....
>
> ... also if there are any sensitivities --psycho-social...corp
> culture...corp structure that i should be aware of
>
> ..."guest behavior expectation matrix"...
>
> will this first visit cost me??/
> if so how much...
>
> im new at this bio-tech-stunt science thing,,,,so i dont have a feel for
> protocol.....
>
> ...id like to buy a clue....
>
> from the future
> davew






From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 12:33:00 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 12:32:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Carole Bellinger-Kawahara <cbellinger@xenogen.com>
cc: prcontag@xenogen.com, cable@xenogen.com
Subject: RE: a clue
In-Reply-To: <C3BC00266F5DD2119FC900A0C99ABADB0DD042@XEN-1>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910131232040.7821-100000@well.com>
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Carole.......you wrote....
.......I'd also like to buy a clue.  

-> one clue comming up.....

Who is this person?  
++++++++++++=
dave warner md 

http://www.pulsar.org/febweb/history/djwarner.htm

i am a medical neuroscientist ... medical power nerd...and a serial stunt
scientist
;-)

The primary role that I play is one of a general medical-scientist liaison
between the medical community and high-tech development companies. My role
is to provide an application assessment of new technologies for possible
medical and educational uses.
+++++++++++++++++

Where is he from?  
++++++++++++++++++
...mostly airplanes.....
i live in san diego...work in washington dc..... have labs in syracuse..
and work on a wide variety of distributed medical intelligence  projects
all
 over the world....
++++++++++++++++++=

And what does he want to do with "bugs in dishes"?  
++++++++++++==
i am trying to verify some claims made by the developers of the device
(beam of life... see below) that it has "anti-biotic" effects 
...thus i want to "kill" bugs in a dish...
+++++++++++++++++++++++

And, *most importantly*,  what is this "beam of  life" that we are all
interested to learn more about?  



+++++++++++++++++
the beam of life... as we call it....  
..basically a heatlamp on steroids..... with some very interesting
woundhealing and other properties

Technology Summary - DW

The current state of the technology is as follows

The initial technology is provided by the Zhoulin Bio-spectrum Co. Beijing
China

The core technology consists of a device designed to emit electromagnetic
radiation with the same spectral distribution as is naturally emitted from
the human body. 

Specifically the device is designed to emit electromagnetic radiation in a
"quasi continuous" spectrum which ranges from 0.1 microns (near infrared)
to 10 millimeters ( short microwave) with most of the emitted energy in
the infrared.

This has been described as a "bio-frequency spectrum" implying the
replication (or simulation) of natural bio-generated energy.  

The device emits energies at greater intensities than those emitted by
natural sources.

The bio-frequency spectrum is produced by the heating of a  chemical
substance which is contains elements from the bromides, nitrides,
carbides, sulfides or fluorides. Ie elements from the 2-5th periods of the
periodic table of elements and also some rare earth elements.

The operational details of the device and the chemical substances are well
documented in 
U.S. patents , 5792184-aug 11 '98, 5814078-sept 29 '98 and 5849026-dec
'98.

The technology is not sophisticated and can be manufactured cost
effectively with reasonable quality controls.

+++++++++++++++++++++=

............Should I be alarmed?  (What, me paranoid??  Who wants to know?
;-)

++++++++++++
yes you should be alarmed... because if this thing works...we have to
invent a new paradigm





i hope that helps....
davew

  



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 14:39:03 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 14:39:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Bob Watson <info@telemedtech.com>
Subject: RE: ECU Telemedicine Center receives $4.6M contract
In-Reply-To: <01BF159D.CD6EC260.info@telemedtech.com>
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hey bob

will try to get to greenville some time


was going to try for oct 24ish..... but its not looking good

i will be in florida next week with dave b....

lots of good things....

how is your house at coast.... heard it got thumped by floyd-floods

davew



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 15:01:07 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 15:01:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Chris Patusky <chris@mplaw.com>
cc: jsanders@tgtg.com, nxgnhlth@worldnet.alt.net, andy@mplaw.com, 
    martine@unither.com
Subject: Re: parexel
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chris

i did not ... and will not make any committments ...with any group...
untill i have run them by you...and jay...


i am conversing with several groups on getting testing done...
but i am doing so on an informal basis....
(as i am trying to get some of this done with out it costing very much)

carl and i have a plan to go to parexel next thursday.. the 21st
we need to have a working arrangement with them  asap

what do we need to do to make that happen....
we really want to get moving on the fda????


also on another front.... what do we need to do  when people are
interested in using the machine... for research... do we have a form for
them to sign ???


also ...also jay or martine

what do i have to do to get access to some of the  more machines for
testing... also i need to have some of the  parts... ie active elements
...the things with the green paint on them    

thanks
davew

,,, btw any news on a new name.... i really liked medibolt inc...   MBI



On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Chris Patusky wrote:

> Dave, Jay and Carl,
> Andy and I spoke with Barry Sall at Parexel today to touch base on the
> upcoming meeting.  We did not discuss any substantial matters.
> Please fax us the brief summary of FDA related matters provided by Parexel
> just before the board meeting.  Also, please run all contract proposals or
> drafts by us.
> Thanks,
> Chris
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 16:39:13 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 16:39:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Rita <rita@telemed.ru>
Subject: Re: Agreements
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910101859310.3019-100000@well.com>
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hi rita....
the 5k should be in your bank... because it has left my bank....

i look forward to your progress reports and documentation

let me know what else i need to do to keep making the world a better place


davew



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 19:56:56 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:56:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: NomadicRadio
In-Reply-To: <19991014025331.13944.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com>
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http://www.media.mit.edu/Projects/



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 13 20:04:09 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:04:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Chris Patusky <chris@mplaw.com>
cc: jsanders@tgtg.com, qmcbolt@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: parexel
In-Reply-To: <v04020a40b42ae9fe35f3@[207.48.152.20]>
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c


you wrote

"In what context will people be using the device other than the studies?"
CP
    
i respond....

we need to "discover"  all the properties of the device

thus there will be a lot of exploratory applications to determine what it
does and what it doesnt do.... both in the materials and in the biological
effects....

for example at the national labs ... it will take a series of experiments
to document the phenomena....

also in labs like xenogen  xenogen.com
where i am friends with the ceo and there are darpa applications in
biochemical defense....
protecting soliders exposed to bio toxins


like nasa applications for all kinds of space flight applications


.... as chief scientist it is my duty to explore all aspects of this  to
increase its overall value....the more things it does the more we get when
we have stock.... right.... this is biz think  ....

On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Chris Patusky wrote:

> In what context will people be using the device other than the studies?
> CP
> 
> >chris
> >
> >i did not ... and will not make any committments ...with any group...
> >untill i have run them by you...and jay...
> >
> >
> >i am conversing with several groups on getting testing done...
> >but i am doing so on an informal basis....
> >(as i am trying to get some of this done with out it costing very much)
> >
> >carl and i have a plan to go to parexel next thursday.. the 21st
> >we need to have a working arrangement with them  asap
> >
> >what do we need to do to make that happen....
> >we really want to get moving on the fda????
> >
> >
> >also on another front.... what do we need to do  when people are
> >interested in using the machine... for research... do we have a form for
> >them to sign ???
> >
> >
> >also ...also jay or martine
> >
> >what do i have to do to get access to some of the  more machines for
> >testing... also i need to have some of the  parts... ie active elements
> >...the things with the green paint on them
> >
> >thanks
> >davew
> >
> >,,, btw any news on a new name.... i really liked medibolt inc...   MBI
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 13 Oct 1999, Chris Patusky wrote:
> >
> >> Dave, Jay and Carl,
> >> Andy and I spoke with Barry Sall at Parexel today to touch base on the
> >> upcoming meeting.  We did not discuss any substantial matters.
> >> Please fax us the brief summary of FDA related matters provided by Parexel
> >> just before the board meeting.  Also, please run all contract proposals or
> >> drafts by us.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 14 07:23:37 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:23:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Chris Patusky <chris@mplaw.com>
cc: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: Re: parexel
In-Reply-To: <v04020a44b42b90153c5e@[207.48.152.20]>
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c

you wrote
Let's talk about this.  I thought you meant that people would be receiving
treatments, and I think the disclaimer would vary some depending on the
situation.  But you also mean simply to run tests on the device, etc.
Right?  ,,,,,,,,


actually both are right....
there will be experimental treatments /exploratory treatments
on people and animals....


so i need a range of forms i guess....

we need to sort this out in a generic way so each time there is a new
idea... we are ready to take advantage of the opportunity

also we really need to get moving on getting a bunch of units and spare
parts asap.....not having them in a timly manner is a show stopper


davew


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 14 07:32:15 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:32:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Sall, Barry" <Barry.Sall@parexel.com>
Subject: Re: FW: Mail System Error - Returned Mail
In-Reply-To: <8166A44E68CBD211A9FA08002BC356E80366C361@P1USXBO3>
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barry

i want to confirm that myself and carl taylor will be meeting with you
next thursday,,,, we can start as early as 11am  

davew



From davew@well.com Thu Oct 14 07:40:53 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 07:40:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Ioannis Tarnanas <ioannist@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: QUALITY OF LIFE PROGRAMME
In-Reply-To: <19991014142421.80322.qmail@hotmail.com>
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ioannis

glad you connected with this group

davew




From davew@well.com Thu Oct 14 08:16:50 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:16:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Melinda Christine O'Donnell <gte661e@prism.gatech.edu>
Subject: New Member that needs help;-) (fwd)
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hey there "georgy girl"

would you please enlighten this  person.....

i think their in your hope court....

fun for all
davew

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:02:00 GMT
From: Neveen Moghazy <neveen@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu
To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu
Subject: New Member that needs help;-)

Greetings everyone!

My  name is Neveen Moghazy, currently I am a senior in Computer Science at 
Clark Atlanta University and have great interest in Human Computer 
Interaction. I plan to attend graduate school at Georgia Tech in their 
Masters of Human Interaction.

For this semster, I am taking a course in HCI. In the course, we are 
required to do some research in a specific field of interest in HCI. I have 
chosen to design/(hopefully implement prototype) an interactive video game 
for children in hospitals that will allow them to log on to the system and 
play against other children in the hospital. Basically all the systems would 
be networked together. I guess if you've ever played the game Half Life, you 
might understand what I mean.

My question is...where do i begin with my research? Has something like this 
been done before?

Any assistance in this matter is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
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From davew@well.com Thu Oct 14 08:19:56 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:19:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Milena Ivanova <milena@siliconartists.com>
Subject: New Member that needs help;-) (fwd)
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you should send him info on your program
davew
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:02:00 GMT
From: Neveen Moghazy <neveen@hotmail.com>
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To: vrpsych-l@usc.edu
Subject: New Member that needs help;-)

Greetings everyone!

My  name is Neveen Moghazy, currently I am a senior in Computer Science at 
Clark Atlanta University and have great interest in Human Computer 
Interaction. I plan to attend graduate school at Georgia Tech in their 
Masters of Human Interaction.

For this semster, I am taking a course in HCI. In the course, we are 
required to do some research in a specific field of interest in HCI. I have 
chosen to design/(hopefully implement prototype) an interactive video game 
for children in hospitals that will allow them to log on to the system and 
play against other children in the hospital. Basically all the systems would 
be networked together. I guess if you've ever played the game Half Life, you 
might understand what I mean.

My question is...where do i begin with my research? Has something like this 
been done before?

Any assistance in this matter is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Neveen Moghazy - Computer Science|"We can't solve problems by using
CIS 106 TA                       | the same kind of thinking we used
neveen@hotmail.com               | when we created them."
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From davew@well.com Thu Oct 14 15:12:50 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:12:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: chris@mplaw.com, nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: equipment needed
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i will follow up on this friday

davew

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Jay H. Sanders, M.D. wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> It seems that the business card that Zhou Lin gave me only has his
> Beijing contact information on it. Could I suggest that you contact Dr.
> Sheng Liu and ask him to contact Zhou Lin to get the material you need.
> Dr. Liu's e-mail is CSLiu@fusion.umd.edu. His telephone # is
> 301-405-8054. Thanks.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 14 15:14:44 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:14:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: next planet
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yes  ... but i didnt tell you ....

i was there today and then i had to blast off to loma linda

i will contact you tomorrow and we can do a little phone time...

nothing major  just wanted to make sure all is on track,,, and get a feel
for future efforts


thanks
davew


btw  got your invoice  will mail check tomorrow

davew

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Joh Johannsen wrote:

> were we supposed to meet there sometime?
> 
> JJ
> 
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 14 15:15:56 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:15:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: carl taylor <carl.taylor11@gte.net>
Subject: Re: your mail
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carl i will be at parexel at 11 am
i am staying inland  as i get there the night before

i can take you to the airport...
after the meeting

thanks
davew

On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, carl taylor wrote:

> I have a delta flight from west palm beach to boston, gets in at 10 a.m. thursday morning, spoke with barry he is 
> ok til 2, do you want to meet in airport or at parexcel? thanks carl
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 14 22:18:56 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:18:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Rita <rita@netra.telemed.ru>
Subject: Re: Agreement
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hi rita

did the money hit your bank yet????


hope all is well
davew




From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 00:56:19 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Lois Clark McCoy <niusr@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: a better bio...
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dave warner md
medical neuroscientist


 APPLYING INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE Quality of
life has become an issue of increasing concern among health care
providers. Off the shelf technologies exist that can be modified or
adapted to enhance human performance in every day life. Through the
collaboration of a multi-disciplinary group of physicians, engineers,
clinicians and patients we are finding creative ways to increase the
quality of life .My Commitment The primary role that I play is one of a
general medical-scientist liaison between the medical community and
high-tech development companies. My role is to provide an application
assessment of new technologies for possible medical and educational uses.
My experience in the area of interactive human computer interaction
combined with my experience in clinical medicine allows me the unique
opportunity to facilitate the rapid community in general. I am
particularly active in technology transfer of aerospace and other defense
derived technologies to the fields of health care and education.
Specifically: advanced instrumentation for the acquisition and analysis of
medically relevant biological signals; intelligent informatic systems
which augment both the general flow of medical information and provide
decision support for the health care professional; public access health
information databases designed to empower the average citizen to become
more involved in their own health care; and advanced training technologies
which will adaptively optimize interactive
educational systems to the capacity of the user.




From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 02:26:27 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 02:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jenkster@spawar.navy.mil
Subject: n66001-99-X-6906--NERUO-COSMOLOGY 
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to David W. Jenkins, 

from 

 


Dave Warner MD 
Medical Neuroscientist                       
Director of Medical Intelligence                       
MindTel, Syracuse NY

Director, Institute for 
Interventional Informatics, 
San Diego CA

http://www.pulsar.org/febweb/history/djwarner.htm
davew@npac.syr.edu 
www.pulsar.org
davew@well.com  

From The Decade Of The Brain- To The Millennium Of The Mind
http://www.quasar.org/memes/lastlfing/10brainwavesviz.html 

An optimized, operational mapping of interactive interface technologies to
the human nervous system's capacity to transduce, assimilate and respond
intelligently to information in an integrative-multisensory interaction
will fundamentally change the way that humans interact with information
systems. 

This is an extension of the human nervous system into information space." 
-- "enhanced expressivity"---- enhanced perceptibility


Therefore we propose 

Project : NERUO-COSMOLOGY - Experiential Interfacing Systems 

We propose a single, multi-modally integrated interface system for the
perceptibility and expressability of massive quantities of critical
information. For the purposes of communication with a larger collective of
connected individuals

This research will address Neurophysiological considerations
in developing an interactive experiential system that optimizes 
the humans perceptual and expressive capacity. 

We propose to develop a "Perceptual State-space Modulation" system  

-an interactive experimental environment for incorporating new ways to
render complex information to the user by optimizing the interface system
to match the human nervous system render to consciousness the necessary
information.

-methods to intentionally modulate the contents of a conscious experience
in such a way so as to maximize the comprehensibility of complex concepts
from diverse disciplines


We propose to research and develop an interactive perceptualization system
for the purposes of enhancing the dynamic interaction between the human
user and a set of complex and diverse data types.

This next generation communication  methodology will foster the
development of computer  enhanced/mediated trans discipline languaging
tools for  effective interdisciplinary communication.  

 An eclectic integration of cognitive neuroscience, perceptual
psycho-physics and bio-cybernetics  augment current efforts to create
robust interactive systems.

  It is postulated that we will need all the help we can get in
intelligently cyberizing  the perceptibility and expressivity of complex
dynamic
 poly dimensional phenomena.

 The fundamental operational design principle:

Research in human sensory physiology, specifically sensory transduction
mechanisms, shows us that there are designs in our nervous systems
optimized for feature extraction of spatially rendered data, temporally
rendered data, and textures. We will develop these interface techniques
and technologies consistent with the basic neuroscience issues of
modality, duration, intensity, distribution, frequency, spatial
displacement, contrast, inhibition, threshold, adaptation, transduction,
conductance and transmission (to name a few) 

We can then identify the optimal perceptual state space parameters in
which information can best be rendered. That is, what types of information
are best rendered to each specific sense modality, a sense specific
optimization of rendered information. (i.e., how to best render for the
highest
quality information through Computational Preparation of Rendered Data)


A quick head's up on where I'm coming from..
If any of the above is interesting 
http://www.quasar.org/memes/structure99/gbsow1.htm


Some history 
http://www.quasar.org/memes/lastlfing/10brainwavesviz.html

Since I started the combined MD./PhD. program in 1988,
 my research efforts have focused on advanced instrumentation
 and new methods of analysis which can be applied to
 evaluating various aspects of human function as it relates to
 human computer interaction.

From the philosophic orientation of General Systems Theories and
 Physiologically valid human information sciences I have been
 exploring relevant issues in interactive human computer
 interface design. 

My  specific research is involved in studying the flow
of information between the human and the computer. 
The intent of this effort is to identify methods and techniques 
which optimize information flow between humans and computers. 

I have been working with and  developing several classes of advanced human
computer interface technologies including instrumented clothing, pressure
sensors, surface EMG, EOG, EEG (direct  bio-electric signals from muscle,
eye and brain activity), a new form of force transducer and the complete
sensory immersion  systems of Virtual Reality

 
Dave Warner MD 
Medical Neuroscientist                       
Director of Medical Intelligence                       
MindTel, Syracuse NY

Director, Institute for 
Interventional Informatics, 
San Diego CA

davew@npac.syr.edu 

www.pulsar.org

davew@well.com  

 


Education:

BA Physical Science 
San Diego State University, Fall 1986.
(Emphasis in Physics, Mathematics and Philosophy)

MD Doctor of Medicine
Loma Linda University, Spring 1995

Ph.D. Physio-informatics (dissertation in progress)
Loma Linda University, Spring 2000 completion.

  Current Projects

   1.Distributed medical intelligence (DMI): 

     Connectivity Matrix for ubiquitous telemedical Knowledge on Demand
services.

   2.Interactive educational tracking tools 

     "Smart Desk"

   3.Universal interfacing tools 

     Neattools-TNG3's

   4.Bot-masters (DARPA) 

     Wearable computer interface systems

     Landmine detection

     Wearable air ground station

     Tele-robotic controller

     Human-robot interface/controllers

   5.Cyber-Cultural engineering 

     "Cyberarium" - Center for Really Neat Research

   6.Interventional Informatics

          It is the intent of Interventional informatics

     to seek out key areas where information technology can be

     effectively utilized to improve quality of life, for example, in
health

     care and/or education, and then actively participate in facilitating

     implementation. Project areas currently active include: 

     1. Advanced instrumentation for the acquisition and analysis of
medically relevant

     biological signals 

     2. New interface systems for persons with disabilities 

     3. Educational systems that adapt to the users ability to learn 

     4. Advanced training technologies which will allow the

     rapid dispersion of newly developed techniques. 

     5.. Advanced informatic systems which augment the general flow of
medical 

     information and provides decision support for the health care
professional.

     6.. Public access to health information databases designed to empower
the 

     average citizen to become more involved in their

     own health care.

Publications (short list)

1. Warner D, Rusovick R, Balch D (1998) The Globalization of
Interventional Informatics Through Internet Mediated Distributed Medical
Intelligence, New
Medicine May 98

2. Warner D, Tichenor J.M, Balch DC (1996) Telemedicine and Distributed
Medical Intelligence, Telemedicine Journal 2: 295-301.

3. Warner, D., Anderson, T., and Johannsen, J. (1994). Bio-Cybernetics: A
Biologically Responsive Interactive Interface, in Medicine Meets Virtual
Reality II: Interactive Technology & Healthcare: Visionary Applications
for Simulation Visualization Robotics. (pp. 237-241). San Diego, CA, USA:
Aligned Management
Associates.

4. Warner, D., Sale, J., Price, S. and Will, D. (1992). Remapping the
Human-Computer Interface for Optimized Perceptualization of Medical
Information, in
Proceedings of Medicine Meets Virtual Reality. San Diego, CA: Aligned
Management Associates.

5. Warner, D., Sale, J. and Price, S. (1991). The Neuro-rehabilitation
Workstation: A Clinical Application for Machine-Resident Intelligence, in
Proceedings of the 13th Annual International Conference of the IEEE
Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society. ( pp. 1266-1267). Los Alamos,
CA: IEEE Computer Society
Press.

 

                                   INTERESTS: 

                                   Interventional Informatics; Medical
Communications, Distributed Medical intelligence, Bio-sensors,
Quantitative Human performance, Expressional interface systems,
Physio-informatics, Intelligent Interface-metrics, User Tracking Interface
systems, Distributed tele-robotic controllers, Intermental Networking,
Bio-cybernetics systems, Cognitive Neuroscience; Perceptual
Psycho-physics, Perceptual state space modulation, Physiology; Physics;
Mathematics; Philosophy, General Systems 








From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 11:15:57 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:15:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: tppotter <tppotter@gateway.net>
Subject: Re: graduate study questions for Dr. Warner
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hi tiffany 

contact dave cole
at aquathought

dc@aquathought.com

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, tppotter wrote:

> Dear Dr. Warner,
> 
> My name is Tiffany Potter, a graduate student at the University of North Florida enrolled in Current Trends in Special Education.  One of the class objectives is to contact experts in my area of interest.  In my investigation, your name emerged as a leader in the field of dolphin assisted therapy.  I would greatly appreciate your time in responding to the following questions:
> 
> 1.  What are the major issues in the area of dolphin assisted therapy?
> 
> 2.  What do you believe has been the most significant research in the area of dolphin assisted therapy in the last five years?
> 
> 3.  What areas of research interest you and will these areas be researched in the future?
> 
> 4.  Could you recommend other professionals or resources for my investigation of this area?
> 
> Please be assured any information you provide will be used solely for my class project.  If you have any questions or concerns, contact me at tppotter@gateway.net or my instructor Dr. Kristine Webb at kwebb@unf.edu.  Thank you for your time and effort.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Tiffany Potter
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 11:26:22 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:26:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: chris@mplaw.com, nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: equipment needed
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jay may feeling is that i need to get parexel's reality thearpy before i
start hounding down scientists and clinical labs... that way i will know
what kind of
requirements that we actually need  instead of 
saying "we want to work with you ... but we dont know what we need you to
do yet and we dont know how much money we have,,but we want to work with 
you..,, "

i can drop by folkmans lab in the am of the meeting with parexel or after
the meeting on the way to the airport..... ie next thursday...

comments???
davew


On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Jay H. Sanders, M.D. wrote:

> Great! Have you had a chance to hook-up with Judah Folkman or Paul
> Davis? We should let Parexel know, assuming that we will use them, that
> we have some clinical centers that we would like them to use. I would be
> interested in knowing if they (Parexel) are flexible with respect to
> that issue. Have a great weekend!
> 
> Jay
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 11:37:02 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:36:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: CSLiu@fusion
cc: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: could you help 
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Dr. Sheng Liu

 it was good to meet you at the board meeting last month

i am trying to set up the studies to determine the emmission properties
and other phenomena of the "beam of life"

as you have an ability to communicate directly with the inventor

i have a favor to ask ... could you please  contact Zhou Lin

and see what it will take to get access to the following..
(as soon as possible)

10 clinical lamps for 
10 samples of the active elements in those lamps
a .25 liter sample of the "active substance"

if you can help us establish a reliable access channel for the parts we
will need to begin the studies in a timely manner  that would be a great
benifit to our efforts

thanks 
davew



From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 11:41:45 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:41:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: next planet
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jojo

looks good,,,, what you said

i will need to have multiple balls each being controled with a different
x-y source and each with a different "property" controller...

for example i want to automate the path of one ball and have the user try
to match postiions with another...

ie the first ball would go where you are supposed to go next.....

having up to 3-5 balls/cubes/????? would be great

davew


From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 11:43:08 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 11:43:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: CSLiu@fusion.umd.edu
cc: qmcbolt@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: could you help 
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On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Dave Warner wrote:

> Dr. Sheng Liu
> 
>  it was good to meet you at the board meeting last month
> 
> i am trying to set up the studies to determine the emmission properties
> and other phenomena of the "beam of life"
> 
> as you have an ability to communicate directly with the inventor
> 
> i have a favor to ask ... could you please  contact Zhou Lin
> 
> and see what it will take to get access to the following..
> (as soon as possible)
> 
> 10 clinical lamps for 
> 10 samples of the active elements in those lamps
> a .25 liter sample of the "active substance"
> 
> if you can help us establish a reliable access channel for the parts we
> will need to begin the studies in a timely manner  that would be a great
> benifit to our efforts
> 
> thanks 
> davew
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 12:43:51 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 12:43:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: chris@mplaw.com, nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: equipment needed
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jay i agree...that we may have more of a handle on which sites are best...

and i agree that we will want to guide parexel on who  we wish to do the
studies.... i just want them to tell me what studies need to be done first

when they say what ... we will say who...

and jay if you feel that there is a better way i will comply... my ego
isnt riding on this part....

davew


On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Jay H. Sanders, M.D. wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> I have a lot of comments, but I will just mention two of them: (1) if
> that is the way you want to approach it that's fine with me, and (2)
> recognize that Parexel is going to have to go out and find appropriate
> sites and we may actually have more of a handle on which are the best
> centers. The more we can help them help us the less cost it will be. In
> addition we may have more access to very well respected investigators
> than they do. Let's talk again after your meeting with them.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 16:12:54 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:12:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: equipment needed
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im in san diego tonight...
red eye to florida the mil-med meeting ataccc
on sat night ..

wed-boston
fri- dc


davew
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999, Jay H. Sanders, M.D. wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> That's fine. Where are you this weekend?
> 
> Jay
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 16:19:21 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:19:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: next planet
In-Reply-To: <380780CD.290B4733@trapezium.com>
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jojo

you wrote,,,

A recorded path, with "stop points", and collision triggers to move to
next
point?

So you record:   a---->b----->c

then during playback, ball stays at "a" until some other ball is close
enough
to it, then it moves to "b"?
                               
.......
thats it....


also can you work on a few .ntl files that show how to use different
things in viz-wiz

i want to make a "complete" collection of all that is needed to download
-install and run the program....

thanks
davew

you should have thecheck tomorrow ups--sat delivery




From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 16:23:36 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:23:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: mindtel@yahoo.com
Subject: ProMedical Newsletter Vol. 2 (fwd)
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From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 18:12:28 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:12:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: mindtel@yahoo.com
Subject: Flogiston update (fwd)
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From: Brian Park <floman@eden.com>
To: Gail Conrad <wildscape@earthlink.net>, Jeff Hume <hume@continuum-corp.com>,
     Elizabeth Dutton Bourne <ebourne@adelphia.net>,
     Andy Stefanovich <astefanovich@opus3d.com>,
     Michael Macedonia <michael_macedonia@stricom.army.mil>,
     Cheryl Haughey <cheryl.haughey@eds.com>, Upul Obeysekare <obey@ctc.com>,
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Subject: Flogiston update

It's been some time since I sent out an update about my work, so here is some news.
 
After ten years of developing the flogiston chair, the flostation and the floroom, I have decided to take a rest from the stress of running my own one man company. I'm not closing the company, nor stopping development, but I have licensed the patents to Virtogo, and taken a day job. Rather, flogiston is going to sleep for a while, and will wake up again when the time is right. 

It has always been a challenge to develop a different approach to immersion by myself, find investors, develop a market, market and manufacture something that is at the edge, and still not quite ready for prime time. After a long weekend in NYC in discussion with a potential partner who eventually talked and walked, I decided I needed a life - and an income. 

Virtogo makes pneumatic motion bases, which are a natural compliment to the flostation. I will work closely with Brad Engstrand, the CEO, to develop a production version, and continue to develop applications and new technologies. This includes HDTV fisheye stereo for example, which is the optimum display method for the dome. So the flostation will still come after all, perhaps even faster than if I did it myself. As if to cement the new reality, a request for bid came out of the blue to provide 3 florooms with a total of 14 chairs for a pharmaceutical company. 

In the meantime I have taken a day job, with CCS Presentation Systems as a multimedia consultant - projector salesman to you - and am finding it a lot of fun. My interest in image projection is satiated by being able to play with the latest and greatest, and my design skills are being used for laying out teleconferencing rooms, media centers and home theaters - not quite the level of immerion I'm used to creating, but absorbing work nevertheless. CCS is a respectable company and rents and sells Epson, InFocus, Proxima and NEC projectors and displays at good prices. So if you are looking for a projector for the office, home or your installation, you know who to call!

Light makes bright.

Brian Park
Presentation Consultant
CCS Presentation Systems, Inc
7801 N. Lamar Blvd., Austin TX 78752
email floman@eden.com
voice 512-451-7446
fax 512-451-6619

and www.flogiston.com if you've forgotten who I am!



From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 18:34:45 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:34:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Bogosh MSgt Theodore III <bogosht@mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
cc: Hansen Mr Joe D <hansen@mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
Subject: Re: robot/data
In-Reply-To: <E1AC08F45573D311BAE30090271F73960140EC@mqgmcwl01e.mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
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i will be in dc nov 7th-10th
darpa pi meeting.. 10th in am or late 9th is window

..need get cori's team in on this....

..did you wee this..
http://www.pulsar.org/int/matt/darpa10/

we will have report soon ...

in demo-conjure mode till next week

from the future
davew


From davew@well.com Fri Oct 15 18:48:25 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 18:48:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Bogosh MSgt Theodore III <bogosht@mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
cc: Hansen Mr Joe D <hansen@mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
Subject: Re: robot/data
In-Reply-To: <E1AC08F45573D311BAE30090271F73960140EC@mqgmcwl01e.mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
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list of ass. is good 
petpig,,, or "pigs pets"

i can make it so there are "pet sets" which perform in specific teams..

...ie when the pig jets the drone the marine can co-percieve booth
data streams...."multi-point teleperception"
the distinction between the big and the drone in as far as the datastreams
may begin to blur....


modulation in all memes
davew



From davew@well.com Sat Oct 16 02:12:22 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:12:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Lois Clark McCoy <niusr@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: URGENT--Nov 18th Meeting Agendas
In-Reply-To: <3807F201.3C42E600@ix.netcom.com>
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lois

you wrote...
Dave: glad you will be with us!
This is the most important meeting of NIUSR since
its inception. It is essential that you be there. We invite you, we
need you, we want you! Please arrange your busy schedule to
join us! See attached Agendas. RSVP please. Press on! Lois 
""



i respond ... yes mam...

it is locked in and i ready to instigate synergy....

ie  im rsvp-ing

,,this is good timming... not only can i do it...
i will do it...

on plane tomorrow night to florida to see eric r. ,, and the other
mil-med's
big push for organizing both humanartian and .mil efforts in fused
response.... like they needed in kosovo...


this is a great time to be ready...

glad to be able to contribute

davew


From davew@well.com Sat Oct 16 10:31:47 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 10:31:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: viz pool table
In-Reply-To: <38084B8B.82D9137E@trapezium.com>
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jojo

this is gonna work...

is it possible to put the balls on different planes???

more later
davew




From davew@well.com Sat Oct 16 15:51:37 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:51:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu
Subject: nlm2000
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this is what jill sent me re--the search engines out there
..
http://www.quasar.org/memes/intellimedcom/nlm2000/Public-Search-Engines.html




From davew@well.com Mon Oct 18 12:14:57 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:14:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Pamela Reilly Contag <prcontag@xenogen.com>
Subject: Re: a clue
In-Reply-To: <380AC790.4CA15ABC@xenogen.com>
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pam

looking forward to getting together...
as far as weekend plans....i arrive either late thur pm or early fri am..
and i leave some time late monday pm....  the time between that is open
...
i really am looking forward to bonding with you and your team.....
they sound great...

fixing the future
davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 18 12:47:02 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:46:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: making progress here
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hey baby

things are going well here.....

the rim pager......get it asap.....
get the unlimited use and buy one of the advanced models...if such a thing
exists

get all of the peripherials....

dont buy the stock service....

also look for the startac andlog and digital phone with nationwide service
and a bunch of minutes....  and get me a price on that

thanks


c u 124


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 18 16:14:32 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:14:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Getting back in touch....]
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jay

research site referal....
i think that this will be an ever expanding list ..

i also think that we can be very creative with some of the off shore
research assets

ie early efforts in next iteration indication research....

we need to establish a list of what we want to be researched
a protocol of how researchers "propose" to do the research

i will have a better idea of how to structure the format after this
thursday... al a parexel

we will need our legal and biz people to help with the formalization 

of this process...
i intend to have a web site that has all the application forms for our
future clinical research sites...

also i am makking some great progress here at the ataccc meeting

mil-med-meeting....

lots of darpa and nasa resources for dong the basic research

met with the people that did the bion 11 project....(the one where the
monkey died and ron m diverted the $ to the nasa csc)



also navy and others interested in some research.... clinical apps for
bolt,,,

will brief you next week

would like to meet you this friday after the parexel meeting..

are you arround

davew


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 18 22:20:31 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:20:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings
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hey jay

,,,just wanted to say  i have made some very strong connections into nasa
here.....lots of things to share...

davew


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 18 22:22:46 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:22:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: mindtel@yahoo.com
Subject: Brief questions from Eric (fwd)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 05:13:46 GMT
From: RasmussenE@website.tamc.amedd.army.mil
To: RogersJ@website.tamc.amedd.army.mil, PrutsalisM@website.tamc.amedd.army.mil,
     mpowe@unicef.org, BOUCHARD@unhcr.ch, male@unhcr.ch,
     u00sdc3f@coronado.navy.mil, madkins@cmi.arizona.edu,
     bollettinoe@website.tamc.amedd.army.mil, mpowe@unicef.org, davew@well.com,
     nojie@who.ch
Cc: hopmeier@gnt.net
Subject: Brief questions from Eric

Jim, Serge, Eric et al...

I had an interesting conversation with Mike Hopmeier earlier this evening.
Let me please get your collective thoughts on a few issues...

1. Mike would like to assess some epidemiology modeling tools using
information collected within refugee camps. He's willing to pay for any
collection and transmission costs. No names, no focal disclosure. Just the
raw epi information for trend analysis. So...

     a. Is anyone collecting PH information on a regular basis anywhere? If
so, with what method?
     b. What might we have to do to summarize and evaluate the medical
information from within a camp?
     c. What camps might have the most reasonable chance of statistical
success?
     d. How many camps exist in the world that are monitored or staffed by
UN agencies? How many countries?
     e. How many people, roughly, do those camps represent?

Serge, your knowledge would be welcome. I hope you're doing well.

2. Jim, you and I spoke a few weeks ago about looking to develop
educational materials for instruction within refugee camps worldwide. Mike
had described significant improvement in many measures within the US prison
population based on teaching people useful skills appropriate to their
capabilities. That teaching has become reasonably well-honed, and might
serve as a springboard into broader applications.

Since, when I asked, you and Mark and a few others said you thought there
was little in broadly coordinated curriculae used in the camps, Mike would
like to coordinate a meeting between people who know their respective
fields (refugees, illiteracy, skilled labor instruction, and so forth) to
be held in the next few months with reps from agencies who care about the
management of refugees. Those reps might include the US Department of
State, the EU, World Bank, OFDA, WHO, and UNICEF. There may be others. From
that meeting we can derive answers to whether this educational effort might
be useful or desirable, and if not, why not.

3. Mike would also like to know if you've any admin support requirements he
can help with (as discussed), and would like us to nail our CONOPS for the
RIM pagers within RIMPAC. I've told him that will be a fruit of the MPC
next week.

Any thoughts?

Eric
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From davew@well.com Tue Oct 19 21:50:45 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Clinical Trials]
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jay ,,, carl

we will need a gis system for us to map all the sites and coordinate the
trials....


davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 19 22:04:43 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: Greetings
In-Reply-To: <380C637D.4D08@tgtg.com>
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several 

nasa hits... john hines and

most interesting so far are the guy's who did bion 11
....also the leading thinkers here thought they are the cool too


it is a good thing  that i do not have a relationship with ron...

also you need to know that chuck dorn is "not being helpful"...
this is not intentional on his part.....but the guy is deflating  his
credability... 
by continuing to live the illusion that nasa actually has been the
leading force is "certain areas".... and continues to do so...

- a statment that i  (and apparently others) know to be false

this guy is so far in denial and ......ok i'll stop...

..jay im telling you this because you are at risk of losing ,,,,lots




he compounded the problem by approaching dave b
...and saying some real stupid things about how he is going to 
get the kiosk up to richmond so "they can do some real telemedicne"....
and make it work....

.....  dave is not offended .... but you should be alarmed..

... catch it early  its easier to treat
davew



On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Jay H. Sanders, M.D. wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> Share, share......! The important question is which NASA. Talk to you
> soon.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 19 22:09:29 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:09:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
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Subject: Our meeting this week (fwd)
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Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 11:29:55 -0400
From: "Sall, Barry" <Barry.Sall@parexel.com>
To: 'Dave Warner' <davew@well.com>
Subject: Our meeting this week

Dave,

In discussions with you and Carl last week I mentioned that I needed to
leave Waltham at 2:00 PM on 10-21.  I am no longer making that trip and will
be available, in Waltham, the entire day.  I will call Carl and let him know
too (I do not have an e-mail address for him).  We had been targeting the
meeting for 10-21 at 11:00 AM, here in Waltham.  Is that firm now?  

Our statistician will be able to join us, by phone, if you wish.
Unfortunately, the M.D. that I have been working with will be flying to
Europe for a 2 week vacation on Thursday. I do not think that this will
significantly impact the utility of the meeting.

Barry


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 19 22:11:07 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:11:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Sall, Barry" <Barry.Sall@parexel.com>
Subject: Re: Our meeting this week
In-Reply-To: <8166A44E68CBD211A9FA08002BC356E80366C3AF@P1USXBO3>
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barry

times are firm as far as i know...
carl may want to push it to later
which i also like...  i have a late flight out

davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 19 22:12:51 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:12:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: sjones <sjones@darpa.mil>
Subject: Re: your mail
In-Reply-To: <71FB3F91A596D211960208002BB91BA3780DA2@msx-4.darpa.mil>
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s


your not missing anything here at ataccc

... but im kicking ass with what you have shown me...

... just thought youd be happy to know im tracking...

davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 19 22:21:27 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:21:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: sjones <sjones@darpa.mil>
cc: 'Stephen Johnston' <johnston@ryburn.swmed.edu>
Subject: Re: Beam of like
In-Reply-To: <71FB3F91A596D211960208002BB91BA3780DA6@msx-4.darpa.mil>
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re the beam of life

Technology Summary - DW

The current state of the technology is as follows

The initial technology is provided by the Zhoulin Bio-spectrum Co. Beijing
China

The core technology consists of a device designed to emit electromagnetic
radiation with the same spectral distribution as is naturally emitted from
the human body. 

Specifically the device is designed to emit electromagnetic radiation in a
"quasi continuous" spectrum which ranges from 0.1 microns (near infrared)
to 10 millimeters ( short microwave) with most of the emitted energy in
the infrared.

This has been described as a "bio-frequency spectrum" implying the
replication (or simulation) of natural bio-generated energy.  

The device emits energies at greater intensities than those emitted by
natural sources.

The bio-frequency spectrum is produced by the heating of a  chemical
substance which is contains elements from the bromides, nitrides,
carbides, sulfides or fluorides. Ie elements from the 2-5th periods of the
periodic table of elements and also some rare earth elements.

The operational details of the device and the chemical substances are well
documented in 
U.S. patents , 5792184-aug 11 '98, 5814078-sept 29 '98 and 5849026-dec
'98.

The technology is not sophisticated and can be manufactured cost
effectively with reasonable quality controls.

NEXT STEPS - Technology validation

Given that this technology is going to be used on humans in a therapeutic
mode, it will be necessary to certify that the claims made by the
manufacturer are verifiable and reproducible with respect to the spectral
distribution and energy intensities emitted while in standard operational
mode. (we need to know exactly what the device is doing) 

It will be required that we obtain and document measurements of emitted
energies and their specific frequencies from a certified lab.  In addition
to documenting the spectral energies we need to also verify that there are
no toxic gasses being produced from the sublimation of the chemicals in
the emitting element.
(as some of the substances listed in the patent are known to have negative
biologic effects)

Arrangements have been made to do this testing at Oak Ridge National Labs.
ORNL is a dept of energy lab and has the necessary equipment to run the
tests.
These tests will be preformed by Dr Tom Ferrell , a senior research
scientist at the labs.
The time frame for this is 1-3 weeks.  Depending on schedules of equipment
and researchers.


In an effort to mitigate any potential risk it is the recommendation of
the Chief Science Officer that these tests be preformed and documented
before any clinical trials involving humans be initiated.

It should be noted that while it is the case that a large body of data has
been gathered with respect to the bio frequency spectrum device, the
validity of the quality of the data has yet to be verified. 




  





Therapeutic Validation Summary -- DW

To date there are no therapeutic claims which have been validated in a
manner which is acceptable to modern western medical science.  

Through it's wide use in China, (reportedly 4 million units have been
sold) the bio-frequency spectrum device has been implicated as the key
element promoting wellness and accelerating healing in a wide variety of
clinical applications. In fact, the range of the medical claims and the
diversity of applications where the device is utilized as the primary
therapeutic intervention is some what troublesome in that 
it is difficult to imagine (from a western perspective) what possible
mechanisms could account for such an wide range of  effects.

The nature of most of the claims tends to be antidotal. The research
efforts to validate the therapeutic effects, so far, have not been well
controlled and thus must be replicated in order to validate the
clinical/therapeutic claims. It should be noted that this is not due to
sloppy methodology and poor understanding of the scientific method. But
rather that the cultural pressures and regulatory oversight are different
in China than they are here in the west.


In reviewing the vast list of claims  and looking carefully at the
"studies" which have been preformed by our colleagues in China, there
appears to be 3 to 5 therapeutic applications which could be verified in a
timely manner with a minimum of experimental complexity. 












Therapeutic Validation Plan

It should be noted that it is most likely the case that we will be
required to perform  1 or more animal experiments before we are allowed to
proceed to human trials
.. for example like the Loma Linda study but with a greater number of
animals and with the intent to identify and quantify "early" effects

This will be developed after my visit to Parexel inc in Boston tomorrow

In preparation for the board meeting the following institute's have been
contacted and are "ready, able and willing" to participate in  a series of
multicenter controlled experiments
>>(Name names,
Loma Linda Univ.  dept of plastic surgery

University of Calif.  (San Diego , Irvine and san Francisco )

Walter reed army medical center

WHRI England

U of Miami 



Several others have been identified but contact will not be made until we
determine the nature and scope of the studies need to procure FDA apporval

 anticipated studies, 
wound healing - to include chronic skin ulcers 
  		-diabetics
		-burns
		-post operative wounds

analgesics - post trauma pain reduction/medication reduction



wound Infection control


Time frames of studies

Once the basic science measurements of the device have been performed, the
requisite animal studies have been completed and the device is found to be
reasonably safe and have an effect 

Early estimates of time frames 

Oct.. validate the device
Nov/Dec  conclude animal experiments
Dec  initiate a series of multicentered studies/trials which will satisfy
the FDA's requirements 
..given that the experiments support the claims 
On or before June 2000 the above mentioned indications should be ready to
be approved.




Intellectual property development

The device in its current form has a limited functional capacity..

There are two initiatives which need to be explored concurrently with the
therapeutic validation of the device.

Internet/phone line  controller

The first and least technically challenging is to develop   a control
interface to which allows for remote operation over the internet or
directly through the phone line. This effort will require the development
of a low cost control unit which will be necessary if the dose settings
and dose delivery are to be monitored and metered from a site remote from
the device and the patient using it.

Cybernetic tissue function modulator

The second and more challenging development will be to take the basic
concept of spectrally specific energy delivery and integrate it with an
intelligent imaging mechanism.  This will require the development of 3
specific technologies..
1- a technology which is capable of generating a set of specific frequency
combinations through tunable active elements. (Ie frequency specific
source emitters)
2- the development of a hyper/multi spectral imaging tool which can
monitor and quantify the characteristics of the tissues undergoing
treatment
3- the development of an integrative control modulator that takes the data
from the hyper-spectral imaging component and through a series of
algorithms and look up tables modulates the frequency and intensity of the
emitted energies in a way which optimizes the therapeutic intervention. 






From davew@well.com Tue Oct 19 22:26:43 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:26:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Mindy O'Donnell <gte661e@prism.gatech.edu>
Subject: Re: Human Computer Interfacing
In-Reply-To: <000e01bf1a93$5c2c8740$34263d80@r38h52.res.gatech.edu>
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you go girl!!!!!

davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 19 22:31:43 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:31:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: next planet
In-Reply-To: <380CF81E.CB928FB3@trapezium.com>
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direct hit....

did you get the check???

davew

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Joh Johannsen wrote:

> 
> 
> Dave Warner wrote:
> 
> > jojo
> >
> > you wrote,,,
> >
> > A recorded path, with "stop points", and collision triggers to move to
> > next
> > point?
> >
> > So you record:   a---->b----->c
> >
> > then during playback, ball stays at "a" until some other ball is close
> > enough
> > to it, then it moves to "b"?
> >
> 
> Just want to check if this sequence is the one you expected:
> 
> Here is the sequence I think you will go through:
> 
> RECORDING
> 
> 1. You start with a grid with a single ball on it.
> 2. In viz, you start recording data.
> 3. You move ball on viz using neattools, I'll provide NTL that lets you use
> neattools reading mouse to do this for start.
> 4. You pause movement at certain places.
> 5. You stop recording.
> 
> PLAYBACK
> 
> 1. You start with a grid, this time it has several balls/planes.
> 2. You start playback of the recording.  This affects motion of one of the
> balls.  All other balls are under control of neattools.
> 3. That one ball under playback control just sits there until there is a
> "collision" with a ball under control of neattools.  Once there is a
> collision, it moves the next location you paused at during your recording.
> 
> Does that about cover it?  I'll make NTL files so all you have to do is
> reconnect inputs on modules controlling ball locations.
> 
> 
> There is also going to be one sort of hokey step between the RECORDING and
> PLAYBACK, to process the recorded file.  I think this can be done on the
> fly, but for the first pass, it will be easier to get it working as a
> separate step.
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, if priorities have changed, or it isn't quite what you need, let me
> know, otherwise I'll go ahead with it.
> 
> 
> What it really is is mixing in control streams from live and recording, so
> there's alot of possibilities....
> 
> JJ
> 
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 19 22:33:10 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:33:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jodi Reed <jodi@banyantree.org>
cc: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu
Subject: Re: Neural Computation 
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j & j

was good to connect the other night

looking forward to the computer club...

also jeff thanks for your time...

davew


From davew@well.com Wed Oct 20 09:09:52 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:09:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: travel docs
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hey baby

im having a very productive time

could you please page me with the airtran info  ie ticket time and conf
number... i assume it is e ticket

i know you gave it to me but i cant find it


me1243


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 21 06:22:54 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:22:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: room
In-Reply-To: <19991020235002.13959.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com>
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hey baby

yesterday was the worst travel hell ive been in for a while

i will take responsability for making sure i have alerted you to my needs
in the future..... sorry i thought that we had diiscussed that i need a
little more attention on this complex travel...

where am i staying
how am i getting there
do i have the info i need to get there

ie hotel
car travel
air travel


thanks for keep this info
1234
1234



From davew@well.com Thu Oct 21 12:37:30 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 12:37:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: better today
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hey baby... 
a couple of things


pager...
new cell phone

our new home???


i will call tonight....in a better mood since i will have not been abused
by several airlines

davew


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 21 15:39:07 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:39:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Sall, Barry" <Barry.Sall@parexel.com>
Subject: Re: GLP Laboratories
In-Reply-To: <8166A44E68CBD211A9FA08002BC356E80366C3CB@P1USXBO3>
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barry 

was good to reconnect today

thanks for your help on this...

hope your having fun also.... we are
davew

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Sall, Barry wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> Here are the names of a few commercial GLP labs.
> 
> 
> North American Science Associates, Inc.  (NAmSA)
> 
> 2261 Tracy Road
> Northwood, OH  43619
> 419 666 9455
> 
> This is the largest GLP lab, with heavy medical device experience.
> 
> Northview Biosciences, Inc.
> 
> 1880 Holste Road
> Northbrook, IL  60062
> 847 564 8181
> 
> Another large lab, focused on biocompatability (toxicology) testing
> 
> 
> TSI Mason Laboratories
> 
> 57 Union Street
> Worcester, MA  01608
> 508 791 0931
> 
> A smaller lab that does a fair amount of animal surgery work and
> pharmaceutical studies.
> 
> 
> Toxikon Corp.
> 
> Bedford, MA
> 800 458 4141
> 
> A smaller lab with a good deal of medical device experience.
> 
> 
> Please keep me informed.  I'd be interested to see the responses you
> receive.
> 
> Barry
> 


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 21 15:41:17 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:41:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: better today
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thanks baby

i think i should keep taking my meds... im a nicer more tolerant person
than...espacially late at night....

ill call later
me

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From davew@well.com Fri Oct 22 09:19:44 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:19:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: RasmussenE@website.tamc.amedd.army.mil
Subject: Re: Nov. 18th Attendance
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eric

was great to connect and stir the stew.....
need brief of strong angel

thinking of synergy
davew


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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 01:25:01 GMT
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Subject: Strong Angel humanitarian exercise in RIMPAC

Senior colleagues and friends,

Many of you are interested or involved in the humanitarian portion of
RIMPAC next summer called exercise "Strong Angel".

Attached is a brief outline for discussion during the RIMPAC Mid-Planning
Conference next week. It's rough, but probably close enough to be useable,
and, if you're willing, I'd appreciate feedback when you can.

v/r,
Eric

(See attached file: Strong Angel outline 22 Oct 99.doc)
________________________________________

Eric Rasmussen, MD, FACP
Lieutenant Commander, Medical Corps, USN

Fleet Surgeon
Third Fleet

USS Coronado (JCC-11)
Submarine Base, Point Loma
San Diego, California

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From davew@well.com Fri Oct 22 18:41:52 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:41:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: RasmussenE@website.tamc.amedd.army.mil
Subject: rimpac-2000
In-Reply-To: <OF3B2970B7.79DAC765-ON88256813.00065F58@tamc.amedd.army.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910221840350.17991-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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e

could not read your ppt files.
could you upload them here
http://sunrise.npac.syr.edu/pulsar-patient/dave/file_upload.html

just find them on your drive and fling them..

thanks
davew



From davew@well.com Sat Oct 23 14:53:51 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 14:53:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: wavz@intr.net
Subject: ping
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910231452390.22712-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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k

where are you 

im in dc from sat... today till wed pm

connect if your here
davew

page me   as net access is limited

thanks
davew


From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 09:38:42 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 09:38:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: wavz@xs4all.net
Subject: ping
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910240937560.2399-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

k 
where are you
when are you back to nj??

davew


From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 09:52:45 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 09:52:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: wavz@xs4all.nl
Subject: ping
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910240952090.2399-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 


k
where are you
when are you back to nj??

davew


From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 11:11:45 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:11:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Rita <rita@netra.telemed.ru>
Subject: Re: Information
In-Reply-To: <199910221354.QAA15774@telemed.ru>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910241111050.2399-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
X-Status: 

rita 

i got your info

sounds great

looking forward to more info as you get it

glad to be on track

davew



From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 11:15:08 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:15:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Paul Cohen <vrpc@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: State of the Artist   +++    Greetings and Smiles 
In-Reply-To: <19991021035923.19978.rocketmail@web121.yahoomail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910241113210.2399-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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hey paul

where are you..

im "in chronic travel mode"
life is big  and going well


are you still tracking  the textile stuff???

would like a heads up

im doing alot with wearable computers for darth vader  ie the dod

but still doing the disabled work also

www.pulsar.org
davew




From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 11:18:30 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jodi Reed <jodi@banyantree.org>
Subject: Re: computer club
In-Reply-To: <v03102808b4331d8bc3a1@[24.4.73.138]>
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hey jodi

any word on the computer club thing....

also i think i will have some little jobs for web content 


another thing  are you aware of a good local -ie san diego- web hosting
service

i want to establish a professional web site for e-commerece

looking forward to pulsing the culture with you and your group
davew



From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 14:14:40 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 14:14:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: David Warner <dwarner@bellsouthips.com>
Subject: Re: Ping
In-Reply-To: <15335401.7@bellsouthips.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910241414240.13250-100000@well.com>
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return time is ?

On Sun, 24 Oct 1999, David Warner wrote:

> Just checking
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 16:04:27 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:04:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jblitch@darpa.mil
Subject: connect
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910241603060.20711-100000@well.com>
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j
i am here... in dc
can connect anytime from tomorrow after 11am till wed 5pm
need to book soon
lots to discuss...

look forward to it

davew


From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 19:50:51 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:50:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: RasmussenE@website.tamc.amedd.army.mil
Subject: Re: Nov. 18th Attendance
In-Reply-To: <OFE0C3577B.E2234C41-ON88256812.00559675@tamc.amedd.army.mil>
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e

i just got my rim pager
user dwarner

d



From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 20:15:33 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 20:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: wavz <wavz@intr.net>
Subject: Re: ping
In-Reply-To: <3813C67D.D197FDF3@intr.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910242012360.25880-100000@well.com>
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hey dude

 would be great to c u

lots to update you on

also i have a bellsouth rim  interactive pager

i will email you from it now



is your intr.net gonna be active for a while longer.... 

i need some help setting up some professional isp stuff here

wanna play???

me




From davew@well.com Sun Oct 24 21:30:25 1999 -0700
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: David Warner <dwarner@bellsouthips.com>
Subject: Re: fwd: Results of SIGNATURE
In-Reply-To: <15335401.19@bellsouthips.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910242130190.10831-100000@well.com>
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thanks




From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 03:51:57 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:51:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Michael Hopmeier <hopmeier@gnt.net>
Subject: Re: Working Group on Unconventional Biological Pathogen Threats, 17
 October 1999
In-Reply-To: <008c01bf0fb6$477e7e80$045b31cc@hopmeier.unconventional-inc.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910250349550.25129-100000@well.com>
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m

i just got my rim pager
user dwarner

will we be able to get this working in hawaii for rimpac2000?

thanks for your input....on several fronts

please email me the list of who i need to see to test the bullet proof
thing....

thanks
davew


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 03:53:52 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:53:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Borrelli, Louise" <LBorrelli@fallschurch.esys.com>
Subject: Re: FW: Updated TMR QIPR4 Information
In-Reply-To: <C2416AA8DBFED1119B9500805F657E0401145C85@xchange02.fcd.esys.com>
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l

still no word from blitch on meeting

i will continue to ping him

heard you fried your bot for the demo... interesting stratigy ;-)

im here till wed afternoon

davew




From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 03:54:55 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:54:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: another question
In-Reply-To: <37FD1718.822AE0C@trapezium.com>
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jojo

i need to get those .ntl files you  were going to put together

..thanks
davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 03:55:49 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 03:55:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: marti warner <martisbears@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: hi
In-Reply-To: <19991011170257.78516.qmail@hotmail.com>
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hi marti

got your message

are you comming to thanksgiving???

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 04:00:24 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 04:00:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: rdugan <rdugan@darpa.mil>
Subject: Re: Dog's Nose PI meeting, 7-9 Nov 99, Washington, D.C.
In-Reply-To: <71FB3F91A596D211960208002BB91BA366D7BD@msx-4.darpa.mil>
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r

have registered...as requested....

also i have reviewed the iscan lit... 
it is still a little  rough...but may be very useful
no time to integrate it for this demo  but could have it done in a fairly
short time if the specs dont have huge holes....ie it does what it says it
does..how it says it does it....

...also any hint on what the next step for next planet might be... if
their is a next step....maybe a next leap  ;-)

standing by to cause synergy
davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 04:02:30 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 04:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Bogosh MSgt Theodore III <bogosht@mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
cc: Hansen Mr Joe D <hansen@mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
Subject: Re: robot/data
In-Reply-To: <E1AC08F45573D311BAE30090271F73960140EC@mqgmcwl01e.mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910250401020.25129-100000@well.com>
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pigs ass.....

t and j

im here in the dc area

could connect tomorrrow some time or wed am

have a couple of power gigs to fit in but am flexable

give me some windows

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 04:08:37 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 04:08:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Pamela Reilly Contag <prcontag@xenogen.com>
Subject: Re: a clue
In-Reply-To: <380E49C4.C4F1FF49@xenogen.com>
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pam

funds,,,

not quite sure what you mean...

for this exploratory venture i really dont have an approved budget for
research ...yet...

i can get there and bring the beam of life with me... but i dont really
have lots of $ to spend on testing...the fesability of using your
technology to do research....with this device

if this is a show stopper please tell me now   ... i understand  but i
need to know so i can adjust....

from the road...which is home for now
davew





On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Pamela Reilly Contag wrote:

> Hi David,
> Whatever help you need making arrangements please contact Ro Farrell.  If
> you don't have funds you need to tell me so that I can work something out.
> Since you haven't said anything I am just assuming that you have it
> covered.  Let's consider this a trial run and see if we can meet some of
> your needs before we talk about corporate arrangements and stuff.  If you
> would like us to sign a mutual nondisclosure agreement that may be the best
> way to deal with corporate issues.  I can send one ahead or since it is
> standard you can just sign when you arrive.   Pam
> 
> Dave Warner wrote:
> 
> > pam
> >
> > looking forward to getting together...
> > as far as weekend plans....i arrive either late thur pm or early fri am..
> > and i leave some time late monday pm....  the time between that is open
> > ...
> > i really am looking forward to bonding with you and your team.....
> > they sound great...
> >
> > fixing the future
> > davew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 04:10:52 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 04:10:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Timothy Childs <timothy@curve.net>
Subject: Re: the loss at siggraph
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991021192838.00ccd6e0@mail.cybernetix.com>
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t

you going to hackers ...

i will be there that weekend and next.... there-being the bay area

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 05:05:09 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 05:05:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Michael Hopmeier <hopmeier@gnt.net>
Subject: RE: Working Group on Unconventional Biological Pathogen Threats,
 17October 1999
In-Reply-To: <00ac01bf1ee0$8bb58560$163c31cc@hopmeier.unconventional-inc.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910250505030.25129-100000@well.com>
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thanks
davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 08:41:10 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: sjones <sjones@darpa.mil>
Subject: Re: your mail
In-Reply-To: <71FB3F91A596D211960208002BB91BA3780EBB@msx-4.darpa.mil>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910250840360.7675-100000@well.com>
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mad... mutually assured "disruption"

d



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 09:31:20 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: [Fwd: NASA CONFERENCE EXPLORES THE CUTTING EDGE OF TECHNOLOGY] (fwd)
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jay fyi's

1-
Program Manager,
                     John Hines (Sensors
                     2000!)

                     John Hines works at the Ames
                     Research Center where he
                     manages the Sensors 2000!
                     Program. Hines has also recently
                     been an engineering manager for
                     spaceflight bioinstrumentation
                     development for the US/Russian
                     BION-11, Neurolab Biotelemetry,
                     and Space Station Advancted
                     Biotelemetry Systems
                     Development Projects. If
                     bioinstrumentation is your bag,
                     drop on into this chat, hosted by
                     NASA.



2- c below

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FYI, Chad Lyons

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From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 09:45:14 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:45:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: more nasa
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http://sverdrup.arc.nasa.gov/atd/atd-b/atd_b.html


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 10:08:47 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:08:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Pam Contag <prcontag@xenogen.com>
Subject: RE: a clue
In-Reply-To: <C3BC00266F5DD2119FC900A0C99ABADB02EC9A@XEN-1>
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thanks for the  concern.... 
sleeping on the streets is a real drag..... but what a person wont do for
science...and a chance to play with the coolest technology


i look forward to next month....

this will be fun right????

have beam... will travel
davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 10:58:05 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 10:58:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: another question
In-Reply-To: <3814796C.2A42F135@trapezium.com>
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jojo

hard to say what is most important

when will the new version be out???

dont want to micro manage  

need somthing by this weekend to work with ed in syracuse

what will be ready by then if you go on as planned???

davew



From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 11:13:15 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:13:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: nasa intel
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910250935220.10311-100000@well.com>
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j

surf this..
http://s2k.arc.nasa.gov/


http://sverdrup.arc.nasa.gov/atd/atd-b/atd_b.html


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 11:25:05 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:25:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
cc: jsanders@tgtg.com, qmcbolt@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: parexel 
In-Reply-To: <19991020144233.KLJH20426@webmail.worldnet.att.net>
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carl and jay

i contacted barry sall at parexel today....
i spoke about the potential for them to take this puppy and run....

i see three phases

p-1  from where we are now  to development of protocol
this includes all the animal studies at .edu's and the good practive labs


p-2 from protocol to early human trials..
this includes all the fda and irb iterations to allow use on humans for
clinical trial..

p-3 clinical trial and fda submissions...



this is just a first pass   
carl   craig lipset will contact you tomorrow with reguards to how to
proceed....

jay   this should give you a good handle on what the $$$$ will be to bring
this to completion


i agree that we see if we cant leverage off of the whri  investment to
expidite the proceedure



comments???

davew


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 11:44:57 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:44:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: WBUSCHCPA@aol.com
Subject: Re: E-mail
In-Reply-To: <0.bd56242b.2545f541@aol.com>
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will

thanks for taking care of this

the company name is 
mindtel llc
ein is 16 152 7159

address is 

dave warner md
crnr
500 university place
syracuse ny 13210

phone is 315 443 5654
fax is  315 443 1973

email is the best way to reach me

this should be for any checks for periods starting on/after 11/1/99


thanks 
davew
On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 WBUSCHCPA@aol.com wrote:

> Here is my e-mail address.  My office number at home is 301-262-5517.
> 
> Will Busch
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 11:45:57 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 11:45:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: WBUSCHCPA@aol.com
Subject: Re: E-mail
In-Reply-To: <0.bd56242b.2545f541@aol.com>
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shall i invoice you the company??

ie for 11/99 forward

still need to be paid every 2 weeks

thanks
davew




From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 18:06:18 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:06:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: edlipson@syr.edu
cc: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu
Subject: Re: another question (fwd)
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new tools from jojo

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 14:35:57 -0500
From: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
To: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
Subject: Re: another question



Dave Warner wrote:

> jojo
>
> hard to say what is most important
>
> when will the new version be out???
>
> dont want to micro manage
>
> need somthing by this weekend to work with ed in syracuse
>
> what will be ready by then if you go on as planned???
>

will get another version to you this week.  In it:

  - record with pause, playback continue-on-collision will be ready by
then
  - simplified neattools modules (socket client moved into JViz, now
called JViz2)
  - JViz2 takes 5 signal values, passes them to viz, what happens there
not quite right -- some
    of it bugs, some of it basic questions (you will be able to see
problem, right now it is that
    top plane makes most of plane under it invisible -- not sure what
approach makes it better,
    let me know if you have any suggestions)
 - JTrans uses VRML file object names (easier to set up this way)
 - more example NTLs

JJ




From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 18:07:01 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:06:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: WBUSCHCPA@aol.com
Subject: Re: E-mail
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yes



On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 WBUSCHCPA@aol.com wrote:

> Does the gross payment stay the same and same payment frequency of twice a 
> month.
> 
> Will
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 18:09:11 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:09:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: another question
In-Reply-To: <3814D498.1A3CE849@trapezium.com>
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jojo

please  give examples of different things you can do easyly

it is faster to show people then to explain it


be creative


ed and jeff sale will pick this up if you can show them the diversity of
options.....  ntl's --extreme


thanks
davew

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Joh Johannsen wrote:

> 
> 
> Dave Warner wrote:
> 
> > jojo
> >
> > hard to say what is most important
> >
> > when will the new version be out???
> >
> > dont want to micro manage
> >
> > need somthing by this weekend to work with ed in syracuse
> >
> > what will be ready by then if you go on as planned???
> >
> 
> Got record/pause playback/collision working.
> 
> How do you want your NTL to look?  Right now, I just have big square
> grid, recording of sphere moving/stopping.  Then a box moving under
> neattools control -- when box collides with sphere, sphere moves to new
> location.  Timing info is in sphere movement stream, so movement not
> instant, it is whatever it was when you recorded.
> 
> Anyway, this is all very basic, but if you want NTL to look something
> different, let me know.
> 
> I changed 2 spheres to sphere and box because it was hard to tell which
> one I was controlling when they were both spheres.
> 
> Let me know the "demo" approach you'd like to see, so I can try it out.
> 
> JJ
> 
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 18:09:26 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:09:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: another question
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yes

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Joh Johannsen wrote:

> 
> Did you want line grid instead of surface grid on visualizer?
> 
> I can work on that if you want.  Seems like it should be OK.
> 
> JJ
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 18:22:02 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: another question
In-Reply-To: <3814D4C8.65BFE99C@trapezium.com>
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do you still keep the well

are you going to hackers

davew


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 19:21:54 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:21:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Joh Johannsen <jojo@trapezium.com>
Subject: Re: another question
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jojo

what i need is options... the maximum ability to mix and match to meet the
needs of the phenomena....


"morph to please   "
davew

On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Joh Johannsen wrote:

> 
> Did you want line grid instead of surface grid on visualizer?
> 
> I can work on that if you want.  Seems like it should be OK.
> 
> JJ
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Mon Oct 25 19:47:58 1999 -0700
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:47:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu
cc: janzoo@yahoo.cpm
Subject: pulsar stats
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hey look at the pulsar stats on 10-25-99

somthing is up!!!!

davew


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From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 05:00:03 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:00:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: NASA CONFERENCE EXPLORES THE CUTTING EDGE OF TECHNOLOGY]
 (fwd)
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jay

fax here in crystal city is 703 979 0547  this is my hotel
i will be here today and i leave tomorrow am...
syracuse fax is 315 443 1973

we need to encourage these people to use the internet for communication...
it is a lot of extra work an wasted time to do the fax thing


....

if needed i have a web site they can upload things to... then we all can
share ...at the speed of light....
....


re the nasa stuff and lack of communication.....
jay that is just the tip of the ice berg of things that you havent been
made aware of

this would be a good "busy work" job for chuck  to catalog all the
relevant
nasa stuff....  this should keep him busy for a month or so....

he is good at writing the "grand reports"..... just a thought....


i am in quantico today at the command control gig...


more later
davew


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 05:27:33 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 05:27:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: chris@mplaw.com, CSLiu@fusion.umd.edu, nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net, 
    martine@unither.com
Subject: Re: equipment needed
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hi all

i have sent this out once before... got no response so im sending it again

i really  need to know about access to the device...

i need several units asap to begin testing...
i need 5 units .... asap and i need the active elements ie the painted
heating elements  for testing..... this is begining to hold up progress
of the emmisions and safety testing scheduling...

how can i get the devices????
when can i expect them????

how can i get a hold of some of the raw "substance" for evaluation

...need data.....

i dont know how to proceed from here

thanks for your attention to this
davew






From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 11:11:56 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:11:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Hansen Mr Joe D <hansen@mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
cc: Bogosh MSgt Theodore III <bogosht@mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>, 
    Karppi Dr Helen T <karppih@mcwl.quantico.usmc.mil>
Subject: RE: robot/data
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joe et al

window of op closed till nov 7-10

in mean time lets get the concepts refined....

what exactly is the goal... near term and long term

what resources will be needed

who provides those resources

who "owns" the project

who pays for what

what is the time trajectory of development

.....

i need  to make this all make sense

davew


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 11:14:09 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:14:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Chad M. Lyons" <chadl@npwt.net>
Subject: Re: amp configuration
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chad


3 is better than 2 which is better than one

what is the price difference??

davew

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Chad M. Lyons wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> The prototype multi-channel amp can be built as a one, two or three
> channel unit. How many channels will you need  on the two
> units you requested a quote on?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Chad Lyons
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 11:20:03 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:20:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Martine Rothblatt <martine@unither.com>
Subject: Re: equipment needed
In-Reply-To: <Version.32.19991026105349.01144c90@mail.unither.com>
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martine... that was the wrong answer.... ;-(

actually no response would have been better....

i understand you have other things to concern yourself with i was just
ccing you fyi.... i will not bother you agin

sorry
davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 11:37:22 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:37:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: FZOO7@ix.netcom.com, "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: Martine Rothblatt <martine@unither.com>, chris@mplaw.com, 
    CSLiu@fusion.umd.edu, qmcbolt@yahoo.com, nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
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zhou lin

i am in need of information on how to acquire a number of your devices

i have been tasked with developing the data set required to  validate the
emmision spectra and bio-effects of the bfs so we may proceed to with the
process of gaining approval for use on humans here in the us and else
where


specifically i am in urgent need of 5 standard devices 
these devices need to be 110v's and have instructions in english

i also am in need of several  of the active heating elements which are
coated with the material which is emitting the energy... these are like
the
ones you allowed us to break while we were at your site in china


also needed is a 250ml sample of the raw material.. ie the green substance

we will need to verify the chemical comp. 


with out these materials we cannot proceed with the validation of the
device


please let me know how you would like to proceed..


davew



dave warner md
chief science officer



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 11:43:12 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 11:43:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: NASA CONFERENCE EXPLORES THE CUTTING EDGE OF TECHNOLOGY]
  (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <3815D6E9.76CB@tgtg.com>
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got it.....

i will not cc her  unless asked to do so.... 

frankly i think her response was fucked up.....
given the history of this start up....

you should have seen the email ..i didnt send her....."it was a little
limbic"....


she has put us in a very awkward position and to get a response like that
was a little dissapointing.......  but that s the way of business....


as i am learning....

keep pointing me back on track  i can learn ... really

davew


On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Jay H. Sanders, M.D. wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> I faxed the fax from Dr. Tucker to you at your Crystal City hotel.
> Unless you feel differently I think that now that Quantum is "official"
> as a company and Martine is a member of the BoD we should only
> communicate operational issues to the Management group and not to
> members of the Board unless they specifically request it. This is the
> usual pattern that industry uses. Obviously I may be wrong in this
> approach relative to how Martine would like us to do it but I suspect
> from her last response that I am not far off.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 


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next suggestion???


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From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
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zhou lin

i am in need of information on how to acquire a number of your devices

i have been tasked with developing the data set required to  validate the
emmision spectra and bio-effects of the bfs so we may proceed to with the
process of gaining approval for use on humans here in the us and else
where


specifically i am in urgent need of 5 standard devices 
these devices need to be 110v's and have instructions in english

i also am in need of several  of the active heating elements which are
coated with the material which is emitting the energy... these are like
the
ones you allowed us to break while we were at your site in china


also needed is a 250ml sample of the raw material.. ie the green substance

we will need to verify the chemical comp. 


with out these materials we cannot proceed with the validation of the
device


please let me know how you would like to proceed..


davew



dave warner md
chief science officer



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From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 12:31:42 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: a.t.tucker@mds.qmw.ac.uk
cc: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: to your fax
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dr tucker

the following is in response to your fax
(in the future could you please use email as i travel and do not get
these faxes for days)


your questions/requests are valid...

however at this point im afraid that i cannot help you very much

you need to realize that this is very early in the process and much of
what you ask for will not exist for some time...weeks to months

i dont know the details of how you were tasked with evaluation of the
effect on humans...and what time frame you were given as to when you would
be able to reasonably expect devices and information

i was not even aware that you even had a device.....untill your fax

due to the nature of how the company was formed some details are still
being worked out.... 

with regards to your fax .. plesae see below....

1-
to date i have not seen an english version of the instructions
i have been told that they exist... but i dont have one to send

2-
the power spectrum of the device.... this is still under investigation
i am reserving time at the national labs (dept of energy)
to have this validated...
the claim is from .01 micron  near infrared  to 1 cm.. microwave

but to date this has not been validated and i cannot tell you what
energies are emmitted at which frequencies...

it is claimed that it is a quasi-continous spectrum with peek energies in
the infrared....

3
a complete copy of all relevant materials,,,
at this time the documentation on the device is limited... but we can
arrange to send you what we have...

be advised that the claims are distributed over a very wide range of
effects... from superficial tissues to internal organs to orthopedic..

it would be a much smaller list to name the things that are not claimed to
be affected....

did you get a copy of the study on the rats that was done at loma linda
this summer???

4-fda
at this point we cannot confirm that we have a 510k fda certification
and if we do it is only for infra red lamp like indications.....

we are currently seeking the aid of a contract research organization to
expidite the process of gaining fda complience  ...

i believe that you will need to contact your uk med devices agency in any
case

our research organization has offices in the uk and will be contacting you
some time in the future....


5-
status of the device itself
as i stated before i was not aware that you had a device....

at this time we are seeking to get a shipment of devices for testing


untill that time
you may have your engineers do what ever is necessary to make sure that
the device is safe....




also another note....
this  is going to be a little bumpy getting started....
this is not a mature organization that has done this  before...

and at the present time we are still working out details of process and
protocol on who gets the devices and when and for what....

... please note that you are not being neglected....
this is just the way it is at this phase....


if you find yourself unable to operate under these circumstances we will
understand.... this is a challange for all of us... but i can say from
firsthand..direct experience...  this is an exciting technology and the
implications, should the phenomena be validated.. are far reaching for
next generation medical devices




thank you for your patience
davew


dave warner md
chief science officer


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 12:45:41 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: qmcbolt@yahoo.com
Subject: to your fax (fwd)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:31:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: a.t.tucker@mds.qmw.ac.uk
Cc: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: to your fax

dr tucker

the following is in response to your fax
(in the future could you please use email as i travel and do not get
these faxes for days)


your questions/requests are valid...

however at this point im afraid that i cannot help you very much

you need to realize that this is very early in the process and much of
what you ask for will not exist for some time...weeks to months

i dont know the details of how you were tasked with evaluation of the
effect on humans...and what time frame you were given as to when you would
be able to reasonably expect devices and information

i was not even aware that you even had a device.....untill your fax

due to the nature of how the company was formed some details are still
being worked out.... 

with regards to your fax .. plesae see below....

1-
to date i have not seen an english version of the instructions
i have been told that they exist... but i dont have one to send

2-
the power spectrum of the device.... this is still under investigation
i am reserving time at the national labs (dept of energy)
to have this validated...
the claim is from .01 micron  near infrared  to 1 cm.. microwave

but to date this has not been validated and i cannot tell you what
energies are emmitted at which frequencies...

it is claimed that it is a quasi-continous spectrum with peek energies in
the infrared....

3
a complete copy of all relevant materials,,,
at this time the documentation on the device is limited... but we can
arrange to send you what we have...

be advised that the claims are distributed over a very wide range of
effects... from superficial tissues to internal organs to orthopedic..

it would be a much smaller list to name the things that are not claimed to
be affected....

did you get a copy of the study on the rats that was done at loma linda
this summer???

4-fda
at this point we cannot confirm that we have a 510k fda certification
and if we do it is only for infra red lamp like indications.....

we are currently seeking the aid of a contract research organization to
expidite the process of gaining fda complience  ...

i believe that you will need to contact your uk med devices agency in any
case

our research organization has offices in the uk and will be contacting you
some time in the future....


5-
status of the device itself
as i stated before i was not aware that you had a device....

at this time we are seeking to get a shipment of devices for testing


untill that time
you may have your engineers do what ever is necessary to make sure that
the device is safe....




also another note....
this  is going to be a little bumpy getting started....
this is not a mature organization that has done this  before...

and at the present time we are still working out details of process and
protocol on who gets the devices and when and for what....

... please note that you are not being neglected....
this is just the way it is at this phase....


if you find yourself unable to operate under these circumstances we will
understand.... this is a challange for all of us... but i can say from
firsthand..direct experience...  this is an exciting technology and the
implications, should the phenomena be validated.. are far reaching for
next generation medical devices




thank you for your patience
davew


dave warner md
chief science officer



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 12:49:26 1999 -0700
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Dear Dr Sanders

Sir John Vane has faxed me a messsage, saying that your company may be
interested in developing some sort of clinical trials in Brazil. In case my
unit may be of your interest, please contact me either by email or at the
address:

415 Jesuino Marcondes Machado Ave
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Brazil
phone	55 19 2516928
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From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 12:56:20 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Gilberto de Nucci <denucci@dglnet.com.br>, 
    "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
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dr de nucci

could you please send me  information on your organization 

we are preparing a data base of research partners 

thanks you for your interest in this technology
davew


dave warner md
chief science officer



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 12:57:40 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 12:57:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: Returned mail: User unknown (fwd)
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i fax number would be better than phone...
given the language thing.....

davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 13:00:18 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:00:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: Returned mail: User unknown (fwd)
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j
we also need to develop a set of "documents"
which can be forwarded to potential research partners...
this should be done by teresa... ie the sending part....

i can give her the set you gave me for her to clone...for now unitll we
get
more info

comments...
davew


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 13:14:40 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:14:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: edlipson@syr.edu
cc: mpc@npac.syr.edu
Subject: welcome (fwd)
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the mystery is solved i think

re the links to cnn.mov



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I just had to write and say how impressed I am with the work you are doing -
I was linked to your site through the European Journal of Health
Informatics.
 
Wow what a great job you must have and I am totally jealous about the
opportunity you have to impact on peoples lives and the care they get.
 
I hope one day  get the opportunity of meeting you. If ever you are
lecturing over here on our side of the pond I hope I hear about it.
 
John Stephenson
John Stephenson
Director
MOON Communications International Ltd
 
01273 647800 Tel.
www.mooncom.co.uk <http://www.mooncom.co.uk> 
www.onemedplace.com <http://www.onemedplace.com> 
 
 
 
 

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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=990153212-26101999>Wow what a great 
job you must have and I am totally jealous about the opportunity you have to 
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#c0c0c0 face=Tahoma size=2>01273 647800 Tel.</FONT></DIV>
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From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 13:19:07 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:19:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: John Stephenson <john.stephenson@mooncom.co.uk>
Subject: Re: welcome
In-Reply-To: <716578D63B7AD311914000600829601A79D3@MOONCOMM01>
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john

thanks for the note...

your right im having a blast

"funnest lab in the free mind"
in reality
... i have to work in medical intelligence and interactive anthrotronics
for "darth vader" to pay the rent  but when one of those kids looks up at
you and you grok the change..... wow its quite a motivating experience


from the future
davew


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 13:25:49 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:25:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: to your fax
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glad you liked it

im going to do my best to base this adventure on honest. frank, and
productive communications....

this is sort of an "anti vane" algorithm....

davew

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Jay H. Sanders, M.D. wrote:

> Dave, 
> 
> Your response was great especially the part...."it would be a much
> smaller list to name the things that are NOT claimed to be
> affected..."!!! That was my laugh for the day.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 13:34:31 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:34:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: Returned mail: User unknown (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <38160DE8.21B9@tgtg.com>
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jay

could you have teresa fax him my email 
i dont have acccess to fax untill thursday...
thanks
davew

in the future can i ask teresa....

how does this work....

...also  i will be paid as mindtel starting  next month

i will send in invoices....





From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 13:37:01 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:37:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: Returned mail: User unknown (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <38160EB6.4627@tgtg.com>
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we can only include what we have....

i will have some of my lab slaves in syracuse  creat a website to host an
information  resource

i hope to be able to automate this by dec sometime

davew

On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Jay H. Sanders, M.D. wrote:

> That's fine. Let her know. The questions from Tucker will probably be
> reflective of the type of information we will need to include.
> 
> Jay
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 13:44:17 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:44:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: newmoon
In-Reply-To: <3815FF4D.7919@tgtg.com>
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j and c


do either of you have any experience with these people
http://www.onemedplace.com/
http://www.mooncom.co.uk/

i had a near miss interacting with a branch in florida

real or bogus????


they do
Tuesday, October 26, 1999

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From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 13:53:50 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:53:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
cc: jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu
Subject: welcome (fwd)
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fan mail....

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I just had to write and say how impressed I am with the work you are doing -
I was linked to your site through the European Journal of Health
Informatics.
 
Wow what a great job you must have and I am totally jealous about the
opportunity you have to impact on peoples lives and the care they get.
 
I hope one day  get the opportunity of meeting you. If ever you are
lecturing over here on our side of the pond I hope I hear about it.
 
John Stephenson
John Stephenson
Director
MOON Communications International Ltd
 
01273 647800 Tel.
www.mooncom.co.uk <http://www.mooncom.co.uk> 
www.onemedplace.com <http://www.onemedplace.com> 
 
 
 
 

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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=990153212-26101999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=990153212-26101999>Wow what a great 
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impact on peoples lives and the care they get.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
class=990153212-26101999></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN class=990153212-26101999>I hope one 
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN 
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#c0c0c0 face=Tahoma size=2>01273 647800 Tel.</FONT></DIV>
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From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 13:56:36 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 13:56:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: davew@npac.syr.edu
cc: davidbalch@yahoo.com
Subject: welcome (fwd)
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this might be a hit.....look at his title and look at the company



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I just had to write and say how impressed I am with the work you are doing -
I was linked to your site through the European Journal of Health
Informatics.
 
Wow what a great job you must have and I am totally jealous about the
opportunity you have to impact on peoples lives and the care they get.
 
I hope one day  get the opportunity of meeting you. If ever you are
lecturing over here on our side of the pond I hope I hear about it.
 
John Stephenson
John Stephenson
Director
MOON Communications International Ltd
 
01273 647800 Tel.
www.mooncom.co.uk <http://www.mooncom.co.uk> 
www.onemedplace.com <http://www.onemedplace.com> 
 
 
 
 

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From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 14:19:08 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:19:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: running the country
In-Reply-To: <38161778.7BE@tgtg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910261410060.26511-100000@well.com>
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j
im going out an buy a fax

mindtel office expense....

i really need an office out here

...once the  money goes to mindtel i will have one...

in either roslyn or crystal city....

gonna get dave balch to work with me
..another use of the money....
....we can have the kiosk ( among a whole host of "iteration
next" intelli med com toys )here....in dc

with the low cost of internet lines around here (ive been checking for
your home) we could do the bridge here.


(and get darth vader to fund it)


we become an independant site....
not nasa   not ecu,,,,   we can do out reach to local  med zones 
ie the johns hopkinns...tatrc... even the nasa csc...(this way they are a
small fish in a big pond....




that solves a lot of problems......

......

ok il go take my meds now......
(after i buy the fax)
davew


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 15:17:08 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
cc: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: Re: [Fwd: ]
In-Reply-To: <19991026220318.QQVJ19487@webmail.worldnet.att.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910261516360.26511-100000@well.com>
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clue please

name of company
name of scale


davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 15:46:40 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:46:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Markus Schmidt <mschmidt@npac.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: Hi from Munich
In-Reply-To: <38162CA5.90227491@npac.syr.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910261536310.22408-100000@well.com>
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markus


i am so happy to hear that... the world will be a better place becasue you
will be able to help where your talents are....

i dont practice medicine for a reason.... i practice meta medicine  im
helping heal the healing system,,,,,

i think that is one of the most intelligent things i could think of for
you

now for the bottom line

i have some really great projects you would be very good at and i can pay
you...(if you are reasonable)   im talking real work...on cool projects as
a professional....(also having fun of course)

i can offer you up to 30k $ for the first 6 months


the telemedicine and other projects are really going great and dave
balch and i are working on this great "next generation internet project"
with 4.5 millon from the lib of med


wanna play....

actually the reality is .... its about time you quit hiding in the
academic zone chasing false glory and get to your intended station and get
to work helping me save the world.... ;-)

please keep the  channel open

i can fly you over...with no obligations today if youd like

you dont havee to feel obligated but at least come check it out ...also
you can then migrate to a good job when you find one.....

how ever i can help  let me know

davew


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 15:50:48 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:50:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Chad M. Lyons" <chadl@npwt.net>
cc: "Balch, David" <dave@sparky.med.ecu.edu>
Subject: Re: amp configuration
In-Reply-To: <38165758.2680F2F@npwt.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910261548180.22408-100000@well.com>
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chad

"just do it"

most likely

we will need a series of iterated prototypes

so the real question is how fst can you get me a unit
...or set of units
if two is faster than three then go with two

id like a ball park quote asap

thanks
davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 17:49:53 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 17:49:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Chad M. Lyons" <chadl@npwt.net>
Subject: Re: amp configuration
In-Reply-To: <381661CC.98FDAC9F@npwt.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910261748310.24634-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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chad

give me a clue... i will not hold you to numbers but i need a "gestimate"
asap

are we talking hundreds..thousands...milllions....
come on i need a hint  ;-)


thanks



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 18:48:33 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:48:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jon Parkin <jonparkin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 5th grade e-mail project
In-Reply-To: <v03102809b43bfa536aa2@[24.4.73.138]>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910261846280.24634-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
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hi kids

i live in san diego...california

my labs are in syracuse new york

and i work in washington dc


but mostly i live here in cyberspace

...
dave warner md
medical neuro-scientist
www.pulsar.org





From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 18:53:40 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 18:53:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: rdugan@darpa.mil
Subject: survival
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910261849430.24634-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
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r

just wanted to see how you were holding up...

demo's are comming along... i will have the graphics guide the user as you
suggested in our last meeting

..sort of like "dot to dot" landmine scanning....

also we can note that this method is  "language" independant

universal interface technique....

any thing i can do to help let me know....

this is a good  (but strange) ride
davew


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 19:09:18 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 19:09:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: mindkind
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910261907220.24634-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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hey baby

the mindkind checks cleared my bank

for the next checks i will use the chase check mailing service

i will send it tonight  lets see how long it takes to get to you

i will need your ein number for taxes

...here comes "mooo money"

1234


From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 21:17:38 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:17:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Chad M. Lyons" <chadl@npwt.net>
Subject: Re: amp configuration
In-Reply-To: <3816A49E.2CF225E3@npwt.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910262115210.13609-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
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what will 2k $ buy me


3 dual channel units
a bunch of sensors
a bigger bunch of your patches

?????

davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 21:25:47 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:25:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Markus Schmidt <mschmidt@npac.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: Hi from Munich
In-Reply-To: <38162CA5.90227491@npac.syr.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910262118030.13609-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: RO
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markus

let me make somthing clear...

im working on some real great projects in bio-sensors and otherstuff
with nasa and dod and the russian space bio med group...

i am also plugged into lots of the latest tech through my darpa (darth
vader contracts)

if you can come over and work with me for 6 months or so...(the rest of
your life i hope)... i can expose you to lots of world class technologes
and the companies that make them....


i can also get funding for you to do what you want?????

it will take a little time to get in the que...  but in the mean time i
can pay you and you can help us take the tech to the next level...also
dave balch says he wants to time share you with me for next generation
internet telemedicine bio monitering....

please....please   please consider my offer...

as an incentive we ..dave b and i are doing a humanitarian project on the
islland of hawaii in june....  9 countries are involved 

called strong angel
http://www.quasar.org/memes/intellimedcom/Strongang-22Oct99.txt


come help us make the world a better place


davew





From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 21:26:27 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:26:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Hi from Munich (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910262126100.13609-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:46:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Markus Schmidt <mschmidt@npac.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: Hi from Munich

markus


i am so happy to hear that... the world will be a better place becasue you
will be able to help where your talents are....

i dont practice medicine for a reason.... i practice meta medicine  im
helping heal the healing system,,,,,

i think that is one of the most intelligent things i could think of for
you

now for the bottom line

i have some really great projects you would be very good at and i can pay
you...(if you are reasonable)   im talking real work...on cool projects as
a professional....(also having fun of course)

i can offer you up to 30k $ for the first 6 months


the telemedicine and other projects are really going great and dave
balch and i are working on this great "next generation internet project"
with 4.5 millon from the lib of med


wanna play....

actually the reality is .... its about time you quit hiding in the
academic zone chasing false glory and get to your intended station and get
to work helping me save the world.... ;-)

please keep the  channel open

i can fly you over...with no obligations today if youd like

you dont havee to feel obligated but at least come check it out ...also
you can then migrate to a good job when you find one.....

how ever i can help  let me know

davew



From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 21:26:50 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:26:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Hi from Munich (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910262126350.13609-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:25:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Markus Schmidt <mschmidt@npac.syr.edu>
Subject: Re: Hi from Munich

markus

let me make somthing clear...

im working on some real great projects in bio-sensors and otherstuff
with nasa and dod and the russian space bio med group...

i am also plugged into lots of the latest tech through my darpa (darth
vader contracts)

if you can come over and work with me for 6 months or so...(the rest of
your life i hope)... i can expose you to lots of world class technologes
and the companies that make them....


i can also get funding for you to do what you want?????

it will take a little time to get in the que...  but in the mean time i
can pay you and you can help us take the tech to the next level...also
dave balch says he wants to time share you with me for next generation
internet telemedicine bio monitering....

please....please   please consider my offer...

as an incentive we ..dave b and i are doing a humanitarian project on the
islland of hawaii in june....  9 countries are involved 

called strong angel
http://www.quasar.org/memes/intellimedcom/Strongang-22Oct99.txt


come help us make the world a better place


davew






From davew@well.com Tue Oct 26 21:39:09 1999 -0700
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:39:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Chad M. Lyons" <chadl@npwt.net>
Subject: Re: amps, sensors and receptacles...
In-Reply-To: <3816A975.AF916D19@npwt.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910262135440.13609-100000@well.com>
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chad  
works for me...
ill send $ as soon as you finalize a bid
also i can share with dave b and take delivery of 3rd one later  no
problem....

let me know all the sensitivites to the tech....
i need prototypes to integrate in to larger systems....

my job is to connect all the cool stuff and make it work...
then make it better

davew


On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Chad M. Lyons wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> That seems reasonable. I still need an ok from Jim Moore the amp
> designer. The problem with quantity (3 ) is that may strip some away
> from Dave Balch short term. can you use one to start (soon) and two in a
> week or so after?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chad
> 
> Dave Warner wrote:
> 
> > what will 2k $ buy me
> >
> > 3 dual channel units
> > a bunch of sensors
> > a bigger bunch of your patches
> >
> > ?????
> >
> > davew
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 06:19:09 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 06:19:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: Re: equipment needed (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910270617450.3356-100000@well.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Status: O
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mixxed messages......


this is martines response to my response to her ....


id like to buy a clue

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 04:47:38 -0400
From: Martine Rothblatt <martine@unither.com>
To: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
Subject: Re: equipment needed

Please keep bothering me.  Otherwise you can not receive helpful advice,
like you have to take bull by its horns.
m
At 11:20 AM 10/26/99 -0700, Dave Warner wrote:
>martine... that was the wrong answer.... ;-(
>
>actually no response would have been better....
>
>i understand you have other things to concern yourself with i was just
>ccing you fyi.... i will not bother you agin
>
>sorry
>davew
> 




From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 08:57:34 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:57:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Borrelli, Louise" <LBorrelli@fallschurch.esys.com>
Subject: RE: FW: Updated TMR QIPR4 Information
In-Reply-To: <C2416AA8DBFED1119B9500805F657E0401145CB2@xchange02.fcd.esys.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910270856480.2921-100000@well.com>
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l

im in town 7th-10th  at darpa pi meeting

9th might be best



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 10:32:43 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:32:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: equipment needed (fwd)
In-Reply-To: <38172270.5F98@tgtg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910271030530.19990-100000@well.com>
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j

not worried about martine thing.....

am worried about whri  going and doing research that we have not yet
determined to be on critical path with  what parexel will reccommend...

not a show stopper but may be non optimal....


davew


From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 10:35:45 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:35:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jeff Sale <jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu>
cc: janzoo@yahoo.cpm
Subject: Re: pulsar stats
In-Reply-To: <v03007802b43cd73f73bc@[130.191.236.131]>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910271033050.19990-100000@well.com>
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jeff

you missed the point

all the hits were not in their normal random pattern

we were getting hits to specific link form all over the world... 
jen and i figured it out...
when you search alta vista for "cnn headline news"  our site is the first
site listed.....

all the referals were from that site....


no the numbers were not greater but the pattern was very different


....attention to detail......

davew



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 10:39:00 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:38:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Borrelli, Louise" <LBorrelli@fallschurch.esys.com>
Subject: RE: FW: Updated TMR QIPR4 Information
In-Reply-To: <C2416AA8DBFED1119B9500805F657E0401145CB6@xchange02.fcd.esys.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910271035530.19990-100000@well.com>
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re the ninth

i dont know about time

it is in george town so should be flexable

davew





From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 10:40:47 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:40:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: qmcbolt@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: equipment needed (fwd)
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:34:24 -0400
From: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
To: Martine Rothblatt <martine@unither.com>
Cc: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>, chris@mplaw.com, CSLiu@fusion.umd.edu,
     nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: equipment needed

Martine,

That is good news regarding your meeting with Dr. Benjamin. Let me bring
you up-to-date as to where things stand.

The most critical issue for us at this point is getting the "labeling"
information documents back from the FDA, which as you saw from Chris'
e-mail, requires getting an appropriate letterhead back from Zhou Lin. I
have a call in to Andy to see if he ever received a response back from
Zhou Lin. (Carl, Dave and I have all tried to get ahold of Zhou Lin
using all the contact information we have but as of yet have gotten no
response.) Once we get the labeling information we will know how we can
market "the world's best heat lamp". There is another issue regarding
the 510K approval application that was initially submitted that will
have to be looked at very carefully. We need to know if in that
application the entire spectral emission range generated by the BFS was
disclosed or whether it just indicated that it emitted EMR in the
infrared range. If it did not disclose the additional spectra we will
have a problem even selling it as an approved heat lamp and will
probably require a new 510K process. This obviously will significantly
alter the timing of our marketing efforts and, thus our financial
projections.

Dave and Carl met with Parexel last week and have asked them to provide
process, time and costs to achieve scientific clinical validation and
FDA approval. Our feeling is that they (Parexel) have the necessary
understanding of what is required and have the operational resources to
meet our needs. The big question right now relates to the cost. We have
informed Parexel of our relationship with the WHRI and our desire to
have WHRI a critical component of the validation process. It is my
understanding that Parexel was also made aware of opportunites for
clinical investigation in Brazil and Nigeria which could be part of
their program or might be an independent parallel effort on our part.

As suggested by Patricia Kluge at the BoD meeting in New York and in a
subsequent telephone call, I have been in contact with Susan Magrino of
the Susan Magrino Agency, to see if she would be able to lead our "name
change" and marketing efforts. A package of relevant informational
material about the BFS and Quantum was FedXed to her two weeks ago but I
have still not heard anything. She has been tied up with the Martha
Stewart IPO but I have been assurred by her office today that she will
get back to me this week. I have kept Patricia informed, and it is her
opinion that if we don't hear back from Ms Magrino this week that we
should "move on". The only reason I don't feel a little more anxious
about this delay is that given the FDA situation we still don't know how
we can market the device. (By the way, while we have been waiting for
the Magrino Agency to give us a response, Carl came up with a great name
for the company notwithstanding the present interest in "Medibolt". His
entry is "aCHIeve Technologies".)

In summary, our immediate marketing plan and business case projections
await the FDA clarification, and the scientific validation process is
proceeding. If you have any other areas that I have not addressed please
let me know and, as usual, any suggestions, insights, etc. are very much
appreciated.

Jay



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 10:55:18 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:55:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jeff Sale <jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Re: pulsar stats
In-Reply-To: <v03007802b43cd73f73bc@[130.191.236.131]>
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jeff
my current theory is that there are thousands of querys every day
and that when you go to alta vista and type in CNN Headline News
we are the first listed hit.....
given that these hits are from al over the world
and that altavista is mirrored all over the world
and that they are not linking to anything else...
and that cnn is shown all over the world


this may be just due to the fact ..that we are the first listed hit in
such a common search......



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 15:47:49 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:47:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jeff Sale <jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Re: pulsar stats
In-Reply-To: <v03007805b43d1d25e23b@[130.191.236.131]>
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ed

i agree that the move is crap!!!!!

havent had time to do all the necessary proping up...we are maxed out
doing the daily stuff


so how much do i need to pay you to "do way bette"  because we need it

davew


On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Jeff Sale wrote:

> Nice trick.  So, if I just add "CNN Headline News" to my home page, I'll
> get lost of extra hits, too??  Cool.
> 
> BTW, not to be a downer or anything, but that movie is really poor quality.
> You deserve better, and I can do WAY better.  I know we've visited this
> before.  Why don't you bring some videos over next time you're in town and
> I'll right the situation.
> 
> j
> 
> >jeff
> >
> >you missed the point
> >
> >all the hits were not in their normal random pattern
> >
> >we were getting hits to specific link form all over the world...
> >jen and i figured it out...
> >when you search alta vista for "cnn headline news"  our site is the first
> >site listed.....
> >
> >all the referals were from that site....
> >
> >
> >no the numbers were not greater but the pattern was very different
> >
> >
> >....attention to detail......
> >
> >davew
> 
> 
> 
> jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu
> http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Jeff/
> ph:  619-594-4881
> 
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 15:48:37 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:48:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jeff Sale <jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Re: pulsar stats
In-Reply-To: <v03007806b43d1f4962dd@[130.191.236.131]>
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thats interesting it was first yesterday

davew




From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 15:50:46 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Wavz@aol.com
Subject: Re: Brainwave "entrainment" ? D  'this in line with reality
 possibility?,  or other?
In-Reply-To: <0.951750ec.2548d13c@aol.com>
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yes reality says you can entrain brain waves.... we played with this at
loma linda

davew



From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 22:58:32 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:58:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jeff Sale <jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Re: pulsar stats
In-Reply-To: <v03007801b43d371561fe@[130.191.236.131]>
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jeff

good try... except that the referal site is altavista.com

they are all comming from altavista

i got this from jen 

"Dave,

I attached the searched data from the referer file. It seems like
most of them are from www.altavista.com site. In fact, if you try that
search http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?q=CNN+Headline+New
s&pg=q&qe
then you will get the news of CRNR as the first hit there.
It could be from certain journal like you said. Possibility is that the
journal just included the above cgi-bin url to provide more info. Or, here
is one other theory which just struck me. that could be altavista's portal
service which provides CNN's headline news to their subscribers or users,
what they call..

what do you think?  """""



this is kind of interesting

the hits in question are 
Accessed URL

Number of Hits
                                       /inmedia/tv/cnn.mov

788
                                       /inmedia/tv/cnn1.html

420
                                       /

414


jeff

i posted the hits here can you graph them????



http://sunrise.npac.syr.edu/pulsar-patient/dave/file/urllist.txt
user id davew
pwd davew


From davew@well.com Wed Oct 27 23:33:15 1999 -0700
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:33:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: janzoo@yahoo.com
Subject: next travel
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flt to dc = ?  sun??... national ???
hotel in dc = ?
car in dc =   ? (drop off at bwi)


1234


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 11:26:42 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:26:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Jeff Sale <jsale@sunstroke.sdsu.edu>
Subject: Re: pulsar stats
In-Reply-To: <v03007802b43e443cc3c7@[130.191.236.64]>
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this specific
http://www.altavista.com/cgi-bin/query?q=CNN+Headline+New
s&pg=q&qe



From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 12:50:18 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:50:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: your mail
In-Reply-To: <19991028193526.21695.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
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hey baby

just get a day early in the holiday in

 or the americana
which will be cheaper than anything in the area




take taxi from apt.... very easy

davew



From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 13:06:41 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:06:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: QM
In-Reply-To: <3818A721.515B@tgtg.com>
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jay

i got the message..


.
i think that
my email to tucker was more than enough to give them a clue...
on where.... give me benjamins email and i will contact him


still unable to fax to zhou lin.... please have one of the laywer guys
give us the way the communicate to him


on the blueprints for internet controller....didnt know that was in the
queue!!!  i can cost out the development ...but the fact that the
technologies are moving faster than our product is i think that it is not
a good use of time  at this time


but if we need it to keep the angel funding comming...great...

at issue here is that mindtel is developing some internet/phone
controllers....will have prototypes by next summer...maybe sooner if i can
get the funds.. need about 125k ...to  get to fcc complient device
prototypes.... this will be the core technology for several projects im
working on.....

does qm want to develop their own,,, or can we be more efficient....

also fyi..."check is in the mail" !!??!!! i cannot locate where my last
two paychecks were sent.... i will follow up on this tomorrow with the
others.....


to date i have only recieved the first one.... and thats because you
handed
it to me.....

....this is not your action item just wanted to let you know where i
am....


i will have the next checks... ie the payperiod starting nov 1 sent to
mindtel.....

im actually getting used to the chaos of this process.... as long as it
doesnt turn into a "shame blame" fest  i think i can adapt.....

in syracuse now till mon pm then san diego next week and back to dc
7th-10th


davew






On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Jay H. Sanders, M.D. wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> I just got an e-mail from Martine in which she asks a number of
> questions about QMC that clearly indicate that she never got the e-mail
> I sent her yesterday updating her on the status of things. Did you get
> it? In her e-mail she wants to know "what's the status of blueprints for
> the internet-enabled machines?" Hopefully the e-mail I sent yesterday
> will give her a partial answer. She also commented on a conversation
> that she had with Dr. Benjamin who was still asking questions regarding
> power output, etc. Have you had an opportunity to "talk" to Benjamin and
> let him know where things are? I assumed that Tucker and he were working
> together on this. Any thoughts?
> 
> Jay
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 13:09:00 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: your mail
In-Reply-To: <19991028195957.26507.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
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i cant come early baby  
i need the day in san diego

as i will be in palm desert on friday....

i guess this means we only stay one night in the desert resort.....

ie  thursday night...

1234


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 13:09:33 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:09:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: your mail
In-Reply-To: <19991028195957.26507.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
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cant you use your upgrade coupons???? or did they expire??




From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 14:53:35 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:53:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: FZOO7@ix.netcom.com, "Jay H. Sanders, M.D." <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Subject: Re: equipment needed
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On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Dave Warner wrote:

> 
> zhou lin
> 
> i am in need of information on how to acquire a number of your devices
> 
> i have been tasked with developing the data set required to  validate the
> emmision spectra and bio-effects of the bfs so we may proceed to with the
> process of gaining approval for use on humans here in the us and else
> where
> 
> 
> specifically i am in urgent need of 5 standard devices 
> these devices need to be 110v's and have instructions in english
> 
> i also am in need of several  of the active heating elements which are
> coated with the material which is emitting the energy... these are like
> the
> ones you allowed us to break while we were at your site in china
> 
> 
> also needed is a 250ml sample of the raw material.. ie the green substance
> 
> we will need to verify the chemical comp. 
> 
> 
> with out these materials we cannot proceed with the validation of the
> device
> 
> 
> please let me know how you would like to proceed..
> 
> 
> davew
> 
> 
> 
> dave warner md
> chief science officer
> 
> 
> 


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 14:57:34 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:57:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jsanders@tgtg.com
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interesting use of the term "valid"

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On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, Dave Warner wrote:

> 
> zhou lin
> 
> i am in need of information on how to acquire a number of your devices
> 
> i have been tasked with developing the data set required to  validate the
> emmision spectra and bio-effects of the bfs so we may proceed to with the
> process of gaining approval for use on humans here in the us and else
> where
> 
> 
> specifically i am in urgent need of 5 standard devices 
> these devices need to be 110v's and have instructions in english
> 
> i also am in need of several  of the active heating elements which are
> coated with the material which is emitting the energy... these are like
> the
> ones you allowed us to break while we were at your site in china
> 
> 
> also needed is a 250ml sample of the raw material.. ie the green substance
> 
> we will need to verify the chemical comp. 
> 
> 
> with out these materials we cannot proceed with the validation of the
> device
> 
> 
> please let me know how you would like to proceed..
> 
> 
> davew
> 
> 
> 
> dave warner md
> chief science officer
> 
> 
> 


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From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 21:32:04 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:32:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: sanders <jsanders@tgtg.com>
cc: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: ??? 
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j
 u were right i rather enjoyed martines email....

but it raises some serious concerns .... ie my involvment in the process

it is the reccommendation fo the chief scince officer... that you dont
need a chief science officer.... you need a gopher....

frankly if we want to make money we go after the animal care market...

people will spend a lot for their little pets that they will not spend for
them self or their kids.... this is a fact....

we sell this to all the kennels and advertise on all the pet specific
support groups on the net


we go to all the vet centers and have borchures of pet post op wound care
..

im not kidding i did some home work on this and we will move them fast if
it gets out that this is available for animals 

if you check out the chatt rooms and support groups for breed specific
pets... these people are the most fanitical ,, money is no object if it is
for spot... group you will ever encounter....

we then make a web site where they can upload all the antecdotal
results...

.... i want a percentage of the animal market.....really 
we can imply and hype all we want.... and since we have data that it heals
animals wounds....already.... we dont need to do anything else.... just
sit back and take orders....



then we can fund the fda crap.....

which is not about science but about process...
i reccommend that we dont waste any more time and we get parexel under
contract get on with life.....

end of story....


the development of the internet controller is a no brainer... it just
takes money....my experience is that it is about a 500k project to do in a
professional setting to have a production unit developed which is more
than a prototype...

design of tronics
fabrication of units
programming of internet interface
testing


to add content to the system will be about a 250k effort

interface design
content development
operational maintainance
web hosting



as for the cybernetic tissue modulator.... i have no incentive to pursue
that effort for this company.... which i dont have a contract and i dont
have stock and i havent got the last two paychecks


if im gonna bust my ass to get somthing done ... it is not gonna be under
the current circumstances where i am responsable but not in control
where people who dont comprehend the technology are more concerned with
the $ than issues of safety 
 where i am tasked with doing somthing and and not given the resources to
to do the taks in a manner i determine to be optimal....


(shit if i wanted to have that life style id have stayed in the field of
clinical medicine  or stayed in the army...which i didnt)


my best efforts are at the leading edge of an effort... i recognize that
and have molded my life to take advantage of it...


this process will not require me much longer,,, if any more...

im not quiting... or threating to quit ... but i am being honest..


if the company  wants a scientist... i can do science  if they want an
office boy to
fax and phone and to chase leads... im not the optimal choice....

 
i have technology which i have developed which is way more deployable ...
and is being used on a daily basis to help people...ie the sister kenny
institute is using my system on a daily basis to treat patients ...

i understand this technology
i dont "owe" anyone any favors which force me to follow non optimal paths

i dont have to beg for information so i can complete my tasks

.... 

i was a little concerned at the on set of this adventure about how well id
fit in the employee model.... i dont....

i really think that this technology is interesting and i am willing and
excited about trying to figure it out... and improve on it.... but that is
not what im asked to be  doing.....

....


this now qualifies as the longest email you have and most likely
will get from me....



time for my medication
davew



From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 22:48:38 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:48:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: qmcbolt@yahoo.com
Subject: ???  (fwd)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:32:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: sanders <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Cc: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: ??? 

j
 u were right i rather enjoyed martines email....

but it raises some serious concerns .... ie my involvment in the process

it is the reccommendation of  the chief science officer... that you dont
need a chief science officer.... you need a gopher....

frankly if we want to make money we go after the animal care market...

people will spend a lot for their little pets that they will not spend for
them self or their kids.... this is a fact....

we sell this to all the kennels and advertise on all the pet specific
support groups on the net


we go to all the vet centers and have borchures of pet post op wound care
..

im not kidding i did some home work on this and we will move them fast if
it gets out that this is available for animals 

if you check out the chat rooms and support groups for breed specific
pets... these people are the most Fanatical  ,, money is no object if it
is
for spot... group you will ever encounter....

we then make a web site where they can upload all the antecdotal
results...

.... i want a percentage of the animal market.....really 
we can imply and hype all we want.... and since we have data that it heals
animals wounds....already.... we dont need to do anything else.... just
sit back and take orders....



then we can fund the fda crap.....

which is not about science but about process...
i reccommend that we dont waste any more time and we get parexel under
contract get on with life.....

end of story....


the development of the internet controller is a no brainer... it just
takes money....my experience is that it is about a 500k project to do in a
professional setting to have a production unit developed which is more
than a prototype...

design of tronics
fabrication of units
programming of internet interface
testing


to add content to the system will be about a 250k effort

interface design
content development
operational maintainance
web hosting



as for the cybernetic tissue modulator.... i have no incentive to pursue
that effort for this company.... which i dont have a contract with and i
dont
have stock and i havent got the last two pay checks ..(just making a
point...not freeked out by it all)

on the otherhand
if im gonna bust my ass to get somthing done ... it is not gonna be under
the current circumstances where i am responsable but not in control
where people who dont comprehend the technology are more concerned with
the $ than issues of safety 
 where i am tasked with doing somthing  and not given the resources to
to do the tasks in a manner i determine to be optimal....


(shit if i wanted to have that life style id have stayed in the field of
clinical medicine  or stayed in the army...which i didnt)


my best efforts are at the leading edge of an effort... i recognize that
is a fact and have morphed my life to take advantage of it...



this process will not require me much longer,,, if any more...

im not quiting... or threating to quit ... but i am being honest..


if the company  wants a scientist... i can do science  if they want an
office boy to
fax and phone and to chase leads... im not the optimal choice....

 
also note that
i have technology which i have developed which is way more deployable ...
and is being used on a daily basis to help people.(and i didnt have to 
kill any animals to do it) ..ie the sister kenny
institute is using my system on a daily basis to treat patients ...
and several disabled people..around the world... are using it on a daily
basis to communicate through the infostructure of cyberspace


i understand this technology
it is iterating it self in an intelligent and future complient manner

i dont "owe" anyone any favors which force me to follow non optimal paths

and from an operational prospective 
i dont have to beg for information so i can complete my tasks

.... i am aware of my limitations...and in some cases fond of them

i was a little concerned at the on set of this adventure about how well id
fit in the employee model.... i dont....


i really think that bolt technology is interesting and i am willing and
excited about trying to figure it out... and improve on it.... but that is
not what im asked to be  doing.....

please note that im not pointing fingers and dong the shame-blame thing
i take full resposability for my actions/reality..
i know what i signed up for 

..and i enjoy working with you and carl....
thus this email... i thought you need to know where my head is at on this
thing.... 
....


this now qualifies as the longest email you have and most likely
will get from me....


thanks for the store and forward therapy


time for my medication
davew




From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 23:36:55 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:36:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: "Maiolo, Lorraine Ann" <MAIOLOLO@MAIL.BRODY.ECU.EDU>
cc: davidbalch@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: updated DMI brochure draft
In-Reply-To: <A9E4D818A4A4D21197F700A0C9D5DA9C2E2D2F@ecumed.ecu.edu>
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lori  i have some edits 
i will submit them friday....today  
i will send the doc back

need a couple of memes inserted

"intelli-med-com" info-structure

medical anthrotronic systems


web revolution -- architecture of global medical intelligence resource 
or - pre-inventing the future
or - "iteration next" 



also need to define intelligence as..the capacity to sample the
environment and respond apropriatly and purposefuly ...

need a little more compelling content discriptions...

im on it... youll have by noon or so


From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 23:38:42 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:38:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: davidbalch@yahoo.com
Subject: ???  (fwd)
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dave...

this is just for your eyes only.....remove names and it is open content..

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:48:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: qmcbolt@yahoo.com
Subject: ???  (fwd)




---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:32:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: sanders <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Cc: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: ??? 

j
 u were right i rather enjoyed martines email....

but it raises some serious concerns .... ie my involvment in the process

it is the reccommendation of  the chief science officer... that you dont
need a chief science officer.... you need a gopher....

frankly if we want to make money we go after the animal care market...

people will spend a lot for their little pets that they will not spend for
them self or their kids.... this is a fact....

we sell this to all the kennels and advertise on all the pet specific
support groups on the net


we go to all the vet centers and have borchures of pet post op wound care
..

im not kidding i did some home work on this and we will move them fast if
it gets out that this is available for animals 

if you check out the chat rooms and support groups for breed specific
pets... these people are the most Fanatical  ,, money is no object if it
is
for spot... group you will ever encounter....

we then make a web site where they can upload all the antecdotal
results...

.... i want a percentage of the animal market.....really 
we can imply and hype all we want.... and since we have data that it heals
animals wounds....already.... we dont need to do anything else.... just
sit back and take orders....



then we can fund the fda crap.....

which is not about science but about process...
i reccommend that we dont waste any more time and we get parexel under
contract get on with life.....

end of story....


the development of the internet controller is a no brainer... it just
takes money....my experience is that it is about a 500k project to do in a
professional setting to have a production unit developed which is more
than a prototype...

design of tronics
fabrication of units
programming of internet interface
testing


to add content to the system will be about a 250k effort

interface design
content development
operational maintainance
web hosting



as for the cybernetic tissue modulator.... i have no incentive to pursue
that effort for this company.... which i dont have a contract with and i
dont
have stock and i havent got the last two pay checks ..(just making a
point...not freeked out by it all)

on the otherhand
if im gonna bust my ass to get somthing done ... it is not gonna be under
the current circumstances where i am responsable but not in control
where people who dont comprehend the technology are more concerned with
the $ than issues of safety 
 where i am tasked with doing somthing  and not given the resources to
to do the tasks in a manner i determine to be optimal....


(shit if i wanted to have that life style id have stayed in the field of
clinical medicine  or stayed in the army...which i didnt)


my best efforts are at the leading edge of an effort... i recognize that
is a fact and have morphed my life to take advantage of it...



this process will not require me much longer,,, if any more...

im not quiting... or threating to quit ... but i am being honest..


if the company  wants a scientist... i can do science  if they want an
office boy to
fax and phone and to chase leads... im not the optimal choice....

 
also note that
i have technology which i have developed which is way more deployable ...
and is being used on a daily basis to help people.(and i didnt have to 
kill any animals to do it) ..ie the sister kenny
institute is using my system on a daily basis to treat patients ...
and several disabled people..around the world... are using it on a daily
basis to communicate through the infostructure of cyberspace


i understand this technology
it is iterating it self in an intelligent and future complient manner

i dont "owe" anyone any favors which force me to follow non optimal paths

and from an operational prospective 
i dont have to beg for information so i can complete my tasks

.... i am aware of my limitations...and in some cases fond of them

i was a little concerned at the on set of this adventure about how well id
fit in the employee model.... i dont....


i really think that bolt technology is interesting and i am willing and
excited about trying to figure it out... and improve on it.... but that is
not what im asked to be  doing.....

please note that im not pointing fingers and dong the shame-blame thing
i take full resposability for my actions/reality..
i know what i signed up for 

..and i enjoy working with you and carl....
thus this email... i thought you need to know where my head is at on this
thing.... 
....


this now qualifies as the longest email you have and most likely
will get from me....


thanks for the store and forward therapy


time for my medication
davew





From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 23:54:02 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jsanders@tgtg.com
Subject: ???  (fwd)
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9910282345580.19977-100000@well.com>
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i tired to fix the  "tone a little"

note edits... 


also really serious about the animal thing...

we have kennels which house dogs... with webcams to see the puppies
while away.. we have the bolt as an optional pampering

we can also start moving the smaller models.....lots of them

with breed specific info kits....and plastic handles

we brand couple with a major pet food....


ok  ok  c message below ... i want to know if the tone of the document is
different than the draft i flung at you 

davew


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:48:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: qmcbolt@yahoo.com
Subject: ???  (fwd)




---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:32:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: sanders <jsanders@tgtg.com>
Cc: nxgnhlth@worldnet.att.net
Subject: ??? 

j
 u were right i rather enjoyed martines email....

but it raises some serious concerns .... ie my involvment in the process

it is the reccommendation of  the chief science officer... that you dont
need a chief science officer.... you need a gopher....

frankly if we want to make money we go after the animal care market...

people will spend a lot for their little pets that they will not spend for
them self or their kids.... this is a fact....

we sell this to all the kennels and advertise on all the pet specific
support groups on the net


we go to all the vet centers and have borchures of pet post op wound care
..

im not kidding i did some home work on this and we will move them fast if
it gets out that this is available for animals 

if you check out the chat rooms and support groups for breed specific
pets... these people are the most Fanatical  ,, money is no object if it
is
for spot... group you will ever encounter....

we then make a web site where they can upload all the antecdotal
results...

.... i want a percentage of the animal market.....really 
we can imply and hype all we want.... and since we have data that it heals
animals wounds....already.... we dont need to do anything else.... just
sit back and take orders....



then we can fund the fda crap.....

which is not about science but about process...
i reccommend that we dont waste any more time and we get parexel under
contract get on with life.....

end of story....


the development of the internet controller is a no brainer... it just
takes money....my experience is that it is about a 500k project to do in a
professional setting to have a production unit developed which is more
than a prototype...

design of tronics
fabrication of units
programming of internet interface
testing


to add content to the system will be about a 250k effort

interface design
content development
operational maintainance
web hosting



as for the cybernetic tissue modulator.... i have no incentive to pursue
that effort for this company.... which i dont have a contract with and i
dont
have stock and i havent got the last two pay checks ..(just making a
point...not freeked out by it all)

on the otherhand
if im gonna bust my ass to get somthing done ... it is not gonna be under
the current circumstances where i am responsable but not in control
where people who dont comprehend the technology are more concerned with
the $ than issues of safety 
 where i am tasked with doing somthing  and not given the resources to
to do the tasks in a manner i determine to be optimal....


(shit if i wanted to have that life style id have stayed in the field of
clinical medicine  or stayed in the army...which i didnt)


my best efforts are at the leading edge of an effort... i recognize that
is a fact and have morphed my life to take advantage of it...



this process will not require me much longer,,, if any more...

im not quiting... or threating to quit ... but i am being honest..


if the company  wants a scientist... i can do science  if they want an
office boy to
fax and phone and to chase leads... im not the optimal choice....

 
also note that
i have technology which i have developed which is way more deployable ...
and is being used on a daily basis to help people.(and i didnt have to 
kill any animals to do it) ..ie the sister kenny
institute is using my system on a daily basis to treat patients ...
and several disabled people..around the world... are using it on a daily
basis to communicate through the infostructure of cyberspace


i understand this technology
it is iterating it self in an intelligent and future complient manner

i dont "owe" anyone any favors which force me to follow non optimal paths

and from an operational prospective 
i dont have to beg for information so i can complete my tasks

.... i am aware of my limitations...and in some cases fond of them

i was a little concerned at the on set of this adventure about how well id
fit in the employee model.... i dont....


i really think that bolt technology is interesting and i am willing and
excited about trying to figure it out... and improve on it.... but that is
not what im asked to be  doing.....

please note that im not pointing fingers and dong the shame-blame thing
i take full resposability for my actions/reality..
i know what i signed up for 

..and i enjoy working with you and carl....
thus this email... i thought you need to know where my head is at on this
thing.... 
....


this now qualifies as the longest email you have and most likely
will get from me....


thanks for the store and forward therapy


time for my medication
davew





From davew@well.com Thu Oct 28 23:58:16 1999 -0700
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:58:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: davidbalch@yahoo.com
Subject: name and num
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dave i need the offical name and address phone and fax and ein number




From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 01:00:21 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 01:00:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Daryl Zeigler <dnzeigler@earthlink.net>
Subject: me in 2000
In-Reply-To: <001001bf1f50$02a3d7c0$71c01b26@oemcomputer>
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daryl

it is possible...just did the ataccc in florida... mil-med  thing
what are the exact time constraints

im working on a project ..rimpac2000  strong-angel
check out
http://www.quasar.org/memes/intellimedcom/currentplanforrimpac.htm
and
http://www.quasar.org/memes/intellimedcom/RIMPAC2000-Strong-Angel-brief.htm


also doing several international gigs in april and early may

what is the logistics.... is this a paying gig???

id like to buy a clue
davew




From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 07:12:38 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:12:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Carmen Magro Gonzalez <carmen@siliconartists.com>
Subject: Re: CARMEN
In-Reply-To: <001601bf21e8$a55f51c0$113e85c2@toots.siliconartists.com>
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hey carmen

i have asked some of my friends to send me some info on  kids education
and the multimedia tools... im still waiting for a response

thereis one group that may be aboe to help you... i will forward a contact
point to you

davew



From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 07:15:17 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 07:15:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Carmen Magro Gonzalez <carmen@siliconartists.com>
Subject: Re: CARMEN
In-Reply-To: <001601bf21e8$a55f51c0$113e85c2@toots.siliconartists.com>
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carmen

contact this person

ask to be put on the mailing list
i think they may be aboe to help

davew



Albert "Skip" Rizzo, Ph.D.
Research Assistant Professor
Integrated Media Systems Center
and School of Gerontology
University of Southern California
3715 McClintock Ave. MC-0191
Los Angeles, CA. 90089-0191

email: arizzo@usc.edu
phone: 213-740-9819
fax:   213-740-8241

IMSC: A National Science Foundation Engineering Research Center at USC
http://imsc.usc.edu
                       



From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 09:19:42 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:19:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: RasmussenE@website.tamc.amedd.army.mil
Subject: Re: rimpac-2000
In-Reply-To: <OFB100676F.5F3173A1-ON88256819.0005764D@tamc.amedd.army.mil>
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http://www.quasar.org/memes/intellimedcom/RIMPAC2000-Strong-Angel-brief.htm
http://www.quasar.org/memes/intellimedcom/currentplanforrimpac.htm

no pass word needed


on the other one   user id is davew
pwd is davew.... pwd is only there to keep out crawlers

it is a very useful tool

davew


From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 09:21:39 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:21:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: davidbalch@yahoo.com
Subject: FYI re: new internet/intranet services available (fwd)
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this is the guy from richmond that did the wearable design we saw in
germany at the g7  ie his wife is the vamp that was there

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:20:26 -0400
From: SDC <info@silicond.com>
To: Ylonka Wiggins <aalp5@flash.net>, "Winters, Peter" <PETER.Winters@grcc.com>,
     vtic@vt.edu, V. J. Benokraitis <vjbenok@shepherd.wvnet.edu>,
     Travis Sarkees <TSARKEES@quantum-res.com>, Tom Glad <tom.glad@tsi.tdk.com>,
     Tim Howard <purgprod@yahoo.com>,
     "Thompson, Mark           VA01" <MThompson@icfkaiser.com>,
     Thomas Prasse <tprasse@email-tc3.5sigcmd.army.mil>,
     Thomas Hughes <Thomas-Hughes@worldnet.att.net>,
     Ted Yachik <yachikth@lga-inc.com>,
     Steve Armstrong <sarmstrong@pegasusimaging.com>,
     Stefan Gashus <gashus@access.wave.ca>, Southern <southern@erols.com>,
     Sophia Jones <sjones@execunet.com>, rsatava <rsatava@darpa.mil>,
     Ronald A. Stella <rastella@worldnet.att.net>,
     "Robert G. Roach, Jr." <Pecunia@email.msn.com>,
     rlcrosby <rlcrosby@ix.netcom.com>, Rick Claus <roclaus@vt.edu>,
     Richard Puestow <richard@di.com>, Richard Fiore <richf@di.com>,
     Richard Bryan <RICHDBRYAN@email.msn.com>,
     Richard Berry <rhberry@i2020.net>, Rich Seidner <rich@svv.com>,
     rcw <rcw@tera-research.com>, Ray Shimrak <Raymin1@email.msn.com>,
     randyt <rtrowjr@aol.com>, Randy Reiners <rreiners@tempurpedic.com>,
     Rachel Gadolin <rgadolin@namrl.navy.mil>, puronen <puronen@sprintmail.com>,
     PJ <pjarrell@carolina.rr.com>, Peter DiToro <peterd@plp.com>,
     Pence Chrysler /Plymouth <G116004@AutoByTel.Net>,
     Paul Galanti <pgalanti@i2020.net>,
     Paolo de Alessandrini <paolo.dealessandrini@worldnet.att.net>,
     Oleg Biloukha <oob1@cornell.edu>, Naresh Lakhanpal <nlak@worldnet.att.net>,
     MSN/vraiment97 <vraiment97@email.msn.com>, mpleone <mpleone@flex.net>,
     Mike Nydam <mike@proxim.com>, Michael Walker <mwalker@UU.NET>,
     marykae <marykae@tech-recruiters.com>,
     Mark A. Wolf <Markawolf@email.msn.com>,
     Marc Reiners <marc@goldenparachute.com>, ludmilla <ldolm@erols.com>,
     Lee Bailey <lbailey@micronet-tech.net>, Kurt Henry <khenry@namrl.navy.mil>,
     "Krause, Ken" <KKrause@owens-minor.com>,
     Kevin Leeders <kevinl@ormutual.com>, kenb <keb242@aol.com>,
     Ken Hunt & Amanda Brown <ken_amanda@email.msn.com>,
     June Petroff <june@superlink.net>, Judy Rodas <jrodas@mobileplanet.com>,
     jsanders@tgtg.com, John Zarzycki <zarzycki@bellsouth.net>,
     John Janzer <johnj@thermomicro.com>,
     John Collier <pljdc@alinga.newcastle.edu.au>,
     Joe Fabiszak <jfabi72529@aol.com>,
     Jim Radabaugh <jjradabaugh@earthlink.net>, jim prout <jims65@hotmail.com>,
     jim hengle <hengle@erols.com>, Jim Dolphin <JDolphin@udrt.com>,
     Jennifer Jordahl <jjordahl@thermomicro.com>,
     Jeff Kearney <Jeff@connectronics.com>, jeff <jeff@connec2.com>,
     Janell Hitchcock <janellh@seattle.lhh.com>,
     j. s. hwang <jsh@multiverse.com>, Howard Adelson <howard15@ix.netcom.com>,
     hopm <hopmeier@gnt.net>, Holly Weller <hweller@amteva.com>,
     "Helen Fawbert [for Kevin Sharpe]" <hfawbert@btinternet.com>,
     Harold T. Maguire <MaguireH@stargate.net>,
     H. SABBAGH <PHSHS@south-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk>,
     Guy <ToeKneeBee@schoollink.net>, Gordon Quick <gdquick@swbell.net>,
     Gordon Autry <gordon@delorme.com>, gcd <gcdsocal@gte.net>,
     Friel <friel@erols.com>, Ed Borey <edborey@worldnet.att.net>,
     "Dyer, John" <DyerJ@specialtech.com>, Dr. Anbo Wang <awang@vt.edu>,
     Douglas Gordon <medsec@compmore.net>,
     DocBob Hawthorne <doc_bobh@yahoo.com>, Doc Viper <docviper98@yahoo.com>,
     dgoeltz <dgoeltz@home.com>, Dennis Farnsworth <farnswd@emailcm.com>,
     Dean Preston <prestond@unconventional-inc.com>,
     David J. Gorra <djgorra@email.msn.com>, Dave Warner <davew@well.com>,
     Dave Pecorella <DPecorella@electronic-designs.com>,
     Dan Mills <dan@CIT.org>, Craig Eckertb <ceckert@iamerica.net>,
     Cliff Lavin <Cliff_Lavin@gmacts.com>, Chris Winslow <cwinslow@mitre.org>,
     Chris Miller <c.miller@snet.net>,
     "Carlton P. Tolsdorf, Jr." <Tolsdorf@erols.com>,
     "Brownstein, Jeff" <JBrownstein@ipctech.com>,
     "Brown, David G." <DGB@CDRH.FDA.GOV>, Brian H <brianh@nogatech.com>,
     Brenda & Norman Reinhardt <nreinhardt@worldnet.att.net>,
     Brandan Collins <bpc2669@yahoo.com>, Bob Wanke <wanke@earthlink.net>,
     Bob Dobson <bob_dobson@email.msn.com>,
     "Blassey, Tom" <TBLASSEY@AutoCyte.com>,
     Blake Frazier <Blake.Frazier@bentley.com>, blake <blake44@cvinet.com>,
     Bill Pearson <wjpearsn@ix.netcom.com>,
     Bill Carter <carterb@unconventional-inc.com>,
     Bill Bentley <bbentley@earthlink.net>,
     "bernard a. forson, jr." <ba_forsonjr@email.msn.com>,
     barneshv <barneshv@evms.edu>, Andrew Stadnik <stadnik@concentric.net>,
     Andreas Wittenstein <press@bitjazz.com>, allen engel <aengel@uswest.net>,
     Adrian B Pidlusky <apidlusky@juno.com>, Adam Romo <Adam.Romo@brinker.com>
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From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 09:37:59 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:37:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: dc@learningsoft.net
Subject: more sd stuff
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dave  


check out
http://www.quasar.org/memes/structure99/smartdesk.htm
http://www.quasar.org/memes/structure99/smdk0.htm... the orginal proposal
http://www.pulsar.org/febweb/education/smartdsk.htm

for meme fodder  
please use 

mindtel  as the enity your partnering with.. for commercialization


and institute for interventional informatics as the 

orginal sponsering org.....



From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 16:28:02 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:27:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Tim Black <wizard@quantalink.com>
Subject: Re: hello
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tim

was fun to meet you...

looked at your resume.... i think we can figure out a way to work
together..

give me a clue on your $ level

ie how much is

.25 / month
.5 / month

my cv is here if your interested
http://www.pulsar.org/febweb/history/djwarner.htm


some pseudo random memes are here
http://www.quasar.org/memes/99memes/myphdrant3-99a.htm


a project im working on is here
http://sunrise.npac.syr.edu/pulsar-patient/dave/file/Drx1a.txt


some of the darpa stuff is here
http://www.pulsar.org/febweb/proposals/botmstrpro.html



standing by for more info
davew





From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 16:58:23 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:58:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: rdugan <rdugan@darpa.mil>
Subject: RE: survival
In-Reply-To: <71FB3F91A596D211960208002BB91BA366D992@msx-4.darpa.mil>
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r

glad to hear of the progress...

looking forward to pi meeting...

after the dust clears .. i would like to get you attention for a little
time....not seeking funding ... need some political reality therapy ...

also i want to know if we can fund gunny crane as a consultant ...
(this would require funding) but i can bring him on under mindtel if you
and he think that is a good idea....hate to see good people go....(esp.
before we extract all the knowledge out of them ;-)  )

from cyberspace
davew



From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 16:59:28 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:59:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jojo@well.com
Subject: upload??
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jojo
i am at syracuse for the next 2 days

i need what ever you have by sunday....

thanks
davew


From davew@well.com Fri Oct 29 17:00:28 1999 -0700
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:00:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Johannes Nicholas Johannsen <jojo@well.com>
Subject: forget last message
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just saw the upload... great minds

davew


From davew@well.com Sat Oct 30 18:10:37 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:10:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: jan <janzoo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Insurance card
In-Reply-To: <19991030235021.17262.rocketmail@web110.yahoomail.com>
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hey baby

i had a chat with topper... i had not fully communicated the story to him

i explained to him that my name was to not be in anyway associated with
the car... i explained the "deep pockets" law of lawers....

i explained that you were willing to help and that i wanted him to learn


was very plesent


didnt to be short with you but im feeling a lot of pressure to get a lot
done before i leave on monday


1234.... c u soon




From davew@well.com Sat Oct 30 18:57:33 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:57:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Erik Viirre <erikv@hitl.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Stuff
In-Reply-To: <381B7E82.3100@hitl.washington.edu>
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hey eric

those memes were just a heads up....months ago...

where i am now on phd 

i will have an outline/summary done in the next day or so

basically it is this

i will focus on the development of a reference architecture for designing
interactive human  computer interface systems consistant with the physio
info metric's (information carring capacity) with the human nervous system

it will include 

-an introduction which describes the motivation of the effort
--the recognition that the flow / exchange of information betweens humans
and computers is influenced / restrained / limited by the interface

- the development of a model which describes the fundemental components of
a human computer interface system....


the development of a notation system which can be used to map the flow of
information in human computer interaction in such a way as to provide some
heurstic guidence in evaluating and refining interface systems


...
the contribution is a useful tool for designing and refining interface
systems 

a conceptual frame work which is consistant with the phenomena 

a reference architecture for developing interface systems



stand by for more formalism
davew







From davew@well.com Sat Oct 30 19:45:15 1999 -0700
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:45:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Warner <davew@well.com>
To: Johannes Nicholas Johannsen <jojo@well.com>
Subject: a bundeled zip
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jojo

i want to start to distirbute the ntl-viz program to some of the users 

i need to have a set of zipped files which contail the following

1- a vizwiz.zip file that contains all the vizwiz files
2- a vizntl.zip file which contains all the neattools specific files

here is what i i need to have happen

i will provide the oopw.zip
we can assume that they have downloaded and installed the java3d in a
standard configuration (ie they hit all the defelt settings during
install)


i need them to be able to unzip all the .zips into the same folder
..if they need to run a bat file to set the path ... assume it is on the c
drive

if we need to we can make them create a folder c:\neattools

but i would like it not to matter what folder they unzip it into as long
as they unzip them all in the same folder...


do i need to spefify anything else???

davew