From - Mon Jun 02 12:00:00 1997 X-Mozilla-Status: 80011 Return-Path: Received: from info.mcom.com ([205.217.228.199]) by tintin.netscape.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.0) with ESMTP id AAA25739 for ; Wed, 21 May 1997 10:50:07 -0700 Message-ID: <33833388.4CC6E3C4@netscape.com> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 12:00:00 -0800 From: "Marc Andreessen" Organization: Netscape Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b5 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Netscape Communicator User Subject: Welcome to Netscape Communicator X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------90894A908EF7655CA0F23E98" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------90894A908EF7655CA0F23E98 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------10C1211A25B32D92B6ECF47E" --------------10C1211A25B32D92B6ECF47E Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


M A R C _ A N D R E E S S E N
Welcome and thank you! Netscape Communicator is the result of innovation, hard work, and your input. It represents our commitment to making it easier for you to access, communicate, and share information, no matter what kind of computer you have. One of my favorite examples of this is Netscape Messenger, an advanced Internet mail client that brings the richness of the Web to your email. At Netscape, we use Web-based mail to work smarter and faster. For example, our Human Resources department emails a benefit enrollment form to all new employees. Employees then submit the form via our intranet, eliminating the paper chase. Check out a similar email form in your Samples message folder. Another way you can take advantage of Messenger's rich Web-based email is with In-Box Direct. This free service lets you choose brand-name content from more than 80 providers. The content ranges from business news to sports scores, from travel specials to gardening tips, and it's delivered automatically to your email in-box. Messenger can help you communicate more effectively:
add *impact to your messages* with fonts, colors, bulleted lists, and tables spell check your messages manage mail with filters and folders read and reply to mail and Internet discussion groups while off-line	drop and drag images from Web pages
If you're interested in learning more about Messenger and how you can use it as part of your messaging solution, please click here. Thanks for choosing Netscape! Marc

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Mon, 8 Sep 1997 16:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3414622C.F4960B6A@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 16:38:04 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Weekly Report Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Weekly report Prepairing work - making new desk and computer in order - doing paper work for I-9 and RA - installing Netscape Communicator 4.02 - installing Netscape Navigator Gold 3.03 - installing Netscape Navigator 3.01 Tango - review the renewal Tango web page - installing Tango on PC Netscape SuitSpot - reading documents Jungkee Kim From - Wed Sep 10 09:35:34 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA15615; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <34169604.167E@npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 08:43:48 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jake Kim Subject: Re: Concerning Tango References: <3416090C.B41B612A@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Hi, I started chat remotely yesterday evening. I just wanted to try it from my home ... No special needs roman Jake Kim wrote: > > Dear Dr. Markowski: > Did you try to get remote chat using Tango ? I didn't know at that > time your request. > It may be occured when I was absent. Did you have any message to me ? If > you had, > please let me know. I am using communicator mailbox and want to know > that it works well. > > Jungkee (Jake) Kim -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Mon Sep 15 15:57:29 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA04731 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:41:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11326 for jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:41:17 -0400 (EDT) From: daemon@npac.syr.edu Message-Id: <199709151941.PAA11326@nova.npac.syr.edu> To: jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu Subject: printer job Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Your printer job (readme.txt) could not be printed Messages from output filter: unprintable character (0xc6)! From - Mon Sep 15 15:57:29 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA04856 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:43:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11352 for jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:43:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:43:48 -0400 (EDT) From: daemon@npac.syr.edu Message-Id: <199709151943.PAA11352@nova.npac.syr.edu> To: jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu Subject: printer job Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Your printer job (readme.txt) could not be printed Messages from output filter: unprintable character (0xc6)! From - Mon Sep 15 15:57:30 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA04894 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:45:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11389 for jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:45:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:45:45 -0400 (EDT) From: daemon@npac.syr.edu Message-Id: <199709151945.PAA11389@nova.npac.syr.edu> To: jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu Subject: printer job Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Your printer job (readme.txt) could not be printed Messages from output filter: unprintable character (0xc6)! From - Mon Sep 15 16:05:55 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA06351 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA11497 for jake@presenter.npac.syr.edu; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:59:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:59:59 -0400 (EDT) From: daemon@npac.syr.edu Message-Id: <199709151959.PAA11497@nova.npac.syr.edu> To: jake@presenter.npac.syr.edu Subject: printer job Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8008 Your printer job (readme.txt) could not be printed Messages from output filter: unprintable character (0xc6)! From - Mon Sep 15 16:50:34 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA07164; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <341D9F92.60C285F3@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 16:50:27 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Weekly report Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Weekly report Tango - Testing Tango 1 for bug report on single-user environment. - Testing partly on multi-user environment. - Suggestion will not be included on this test. Netscape SuitSpot - Prepairing for installment Jungkee Kim From - Fri Sep 19 14:56:14 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA21962; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:34:16 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <3422C6B4.41C6@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:38:44 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake Subject: [Fwd: BuenaVista - new version ready for testing] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------167E2781446B" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------167E2781446B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** --------------167E2781446B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA21496; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA18975; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:33:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199709101833.OAA18975@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, beca@trurl.npac.syr.edu, toju@trurl.npac.syr.edu, konrad@trurl.npac.syr.edu, piotr@trurl.npac.syr.edu, walczak@trurl.npac.syr.edu, stach@trurl.npac.syr.edu, norka@top.cis.syr.edu, toma@trurl.npac.syr.edu, roman@postoffice.npac.syr.edu, bartw@trurl.npac.syr.edu, grzes@trurl.npac.syr.edu, kemal@trurl.npac.syr.edu, scott@trurl.npac.syr.edu, bki5@trurl.npac.syr.edu, zeynep@trurl.npac.syr.edu, roman@trurl.npac.syr.edu, remek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, proman@trurl.npac.syr.edu, yuzhu@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: njm@trurl.npac.syr.edu, trscavo@trurl.npac.syr.edu, gcf@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: BuenaVista - new version ready for testing Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:33:41 -0400 Sender: marek@npac.syr.edu Content-Type: text as per attached message from Tom, the new version is available. the bugs fixed include: - no growing delay for ADPCM traffic - no volume changes for ADPCM coder caused by lost packets improvements include: - more robust streaming protocol (RTP) - support for audio multiplexing for PCs (i.e., many people can talk at the same time and be recieved.) we need to organize test sessions before we release this version to Nancy and Tom Scavo. Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu ------- Forwarded Message From: "Tomasz Stachowiak" To: "Marek Podgorny" Subject: BuenaVista 2.3 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:13:59 -0400 I've just released it. It has: - - audio RTP transfer - - audio multiplexing - - full ADPCM support I'd like it to be tested by as many people as possible. Tomasz Stachowiak, (315) 443-3556, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/toms/ ------- End of Forwarded Message --------------167E2781446B-- From - Fri Sep 19 14:56:14 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA21980; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:35:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <3422C6E2.794B@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:39:30 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake Subject: [Fwd: new TANGO application page] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------15FB59E21CFB" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------15FB59E21CFB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** --------------15FB59E21CFB Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA23625; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA00107; Wed, 3 Sep 1997 11:28:46 -0400 Message-Id: <199709031528.LAA00107@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, beca@trurl.npac.syr.edu, toju@trurl.npac.syr.edu, konrad@trurl.npac.syr.edu, piotr@trurl.npac.syr.edu, walczak@trurl.npac.syr.edu, stach@trurl.npac.syr.edu, norka@top.cis.syr.edu, toma@trurl.npac.syr.edu, bartw@trurl.npac.syr.edu, grzes@trurl.npac.syr.edu, kemal@trurl.npac.syr.edu, remek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, proman@trurl.npac.syr.edu, yuzhu@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: roman@postoffice.npac.syr.edu, gcf@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: new TANGO application page Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 11:28:46 -0400 Sender: marek@npac.syr.edu Content-Type: text is available at http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tango/applets/index.html it is also linked to the main Tango page. please, send comments/remarks/hints as needed! thanks, Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu --------------15FB59E21CFB-- From - Fri Sep 19 14:56:14 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA22000; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <3422C71F.3F54@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:40:31 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake Subject: [Fwd: newCA testing] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FF6ABD31DF" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FF6ABD31DF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** --------------FF6ABD31DF Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA09758; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:00:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA19658; Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:01:05 -0400 Message-Id: <199709171901.PAA19658@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: njm@trurl.npac.syr.edu, trscavo@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, toju@trurl.npac.syr.edu, roman@postoffice.npac.syr.edu Subject: newCA testing Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:01:05 -0400 Sender: marek@npac.syr.edu Content-Type: text nancy, the correct url for the new CA with mail is http://trurl/tango-test/ncatest/Tango.html Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu --------------FF6ABD31DF-- From - Sun Sep 21 15:09:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id RAA25113; Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:48:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:48:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709192148.RAA25113@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango@npac.syr.edu using -f To: jake@npac.syr.edu From: Majordomo@npac.syr.edu Subject: Welcome to tango Reply-To: Majordomo@npac.syr.edu Content-Type: text Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 -- Welcome to the tango mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@npac.syr.edu" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe tango jake@npac.syr.edu Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: [Last updated on: Thu Sep 18 9:26:41 1997] Welcome to the Tango mailing list at the Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University! Tango is a web-based collaborative software system. For more information about Tango, please visit our web page at http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tango/ All comments, suggestions, queries, and bug reports regarding Tango should be sent to tango@npac.syr.edu For instructions on how to use the mailing list software (majordomo), send the one-line message help to majordomo@npac.syr.edu Thank you for your interest in Tango! From - Mon Sep 22 17:04:02 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA08309; Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3426DD35.B28E806E@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:03:49 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Weekly report Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Weekly report Tango - Testing Tango 1 on multi-user environment. - Monitoring on-line class of Jackson State University. - Probing problems on the on-line class. Netscape SuitSpot - Installing Enterprise Server. Jungkee Kim From - Wed Sep 24 16:14:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id SAA28096 for tango-outgoing; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 18:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA28090 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 18:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA07679 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 1997 18:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199709232207.SAA07679@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: trscavo@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] JSU lecture 9/23/97 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 18:07:13 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, Tango worked well for us today. We had a little problem with the audio towards the end of the lecture, and that's what I wanted to mention before I forget. The audio started breaking up on their end, so both ends stopped and restarted the audio tool, and that seemed to take care of the problem temporarily. We had to do this two or three times, however. I'm not complaining, just pointing this out for future reference. Also, at the very end of the lecture, the audio started pounding, like a very bad headache. Marek came and *quit* the audio tool, which solved the problem. We'll remember this workaround for next time. Oh, and I wanted to piggyback on a comment Nancy made earlier. The "Remote Open" function is really cool---I couldn't live without it. :-) Cheers, Tom From - Fri Sep 26 13:42:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id JAA15326 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:35:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rmgate (rmgate.npac.syr.edu [128.230.163.131]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA15321; Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:35:40 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Message-ID: <342BBB9D.724A@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 1997 09:41:49 -0400 From: Roman Markowski Organization: NPAC SU X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marek Podgorny CC: roman, tango Subject: [tango] Re: hacker's meeting tomorrow References: <199709252008.QAA03482@trurl.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 FYI: Dave Warner is using subnet 128.230.67.0-63 gateway 128.230.67.1 mask 255.255.255.192 broadcast 128.230.67.63 Wireless link has 2 Mbps roman Marek Podgorny wrote: > > guys, > > we will need to take few machines from NPAC and connect them in > Dave's place, so we can demonstarte tango and other stuff we. > i think we need to start working on it tomorrow around noon. > please, be available for help with this procedure. > > thanks, > > marek > > Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Mon Sep 29 16:38:08 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA00171 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA00166 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:46:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-Id: <199709291946.PAA00166@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Subject: Wed maintanence network disruption Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:46:56 -0400 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Hi To address problems on Tarkovsky, we need to make some network changes This will disrupt the network between 15 and 45 min We propose to do this Wed 1997/10/01 07:30 - 09:00 If there are any problems with this, please let us know ASAP Regards, Todd --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Mon Sep 29 16:38:09 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA01605; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <34301193.569B3E84@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:37:40 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Concerning Friday meeting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Dear Dr. Markowski: I was sorry that you were sick last weekend. I hope you will recover your health. As you said before, you were trying to say about Tango Testing. I have been testing Tango 1, but it was effort for only finding the serious bugs for making bug list. I thought 'Buena Vista' is one of commercial application and didn't know that it is one of Tango applications which is developed in NPAC. After your mail forwarding, I found the 'Buena Vista' concerning page last week and am trying to install on PC's at PC lab. I will test 'Buena Vista' first on kopernik of NPAC and 'tango.jsums.edu'. I will report not only the bug list but also suggestions at this time for the future development. If you have any suggestion or other demands, please let me know. Or I will report about 'Buena Vista' first during week. Jungkee Kim From - Mon Sep 29 16:38:09 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA01621; Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <343011AA.6A73C594@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 16:38:02 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Weekly report Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Weekly report Tango - Reviewing for new Buena Vista Conferencing System. - Monitoring on-line class of Jackson State University. - Probing problems on the on-line class. Netscape SuitSpot - Installing Collabra Server. Jungkee Kim From - Tue Sep 30 11:47:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id JAA13032 for tango-outgoing; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:06:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA13027; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA07086; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:04:54 -0400 Message-Id: <199709301304.JAA07086@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu cc: jsufall97adm@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] Thursday's JSU lecture Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:04:53 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Hi, As I will be in Jackson this Thursday (10/2), there will be no online lecture that day. The next lecture is scheduled for Tuesday, October 7th. Thanks, Tom Scavo From - Tue Sep 30 17:31:11 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA22615; Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:29:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <34316F99.56D0DABF@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 17:31:05 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Report for monitoring JSU lecture today Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Dear Dr. Markowski: I would like to report what happened on JSU lecture today. After installing new Buena Vista version 2.3 yesterday, I was sure that it worked well on 'kopernik' though there were some serious problems when granting master. As I used to monitor the class before, I tried to join 'Buena Vista' lecture today. However, I could not join it because there was an error. The message, "This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down." was shown and I tried to run again on the other PC, 'rockinghorse'. When I tried to join 'Buena Vista' again, the same error has been occurred and Mike ran the chat on my computer and asked "Who is jake?". So, I explained my mission about monitoring and talked him that I would try to join again with old version of 'Buena Vista'. He did not say anything after the first question and I prepaired for reconnection with old version. At that time, Marek went to the PC lab and requested me not to touch anything on Tango. He also anounced about that my new version of 'Buena Vista' crashed the on-line lecture. I didn't know my joining to 'Buena Vista' lecture crashed it. Well, that's what happened when you were at NPAC main computer lab next to the PC lab. Though there was crashing, I will continue to monitor the lecture with old version of 'Buena vista' unless you talk me to quit. If you have any question about that, please let me know. Jungkee Kim From - Wed Oct 01 10:21:20 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id JAA03623 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:49:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA03614 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:49:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-Id: <199710011349.JAA03614@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Subject: Status of network Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 09:49:51 -0400 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Hi Today's (199/10/01) network maintanence is done. If you observe any problems please report them Regards, Todd --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Wed Oct 01 14:39:35 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id NAA07632 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:11:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA07627; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:11:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (njm@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA20178; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710011711.NAA20178@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: njm@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu cc: njm@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] report on yesterday's audio Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 13:11:44 -0400 From: Nancy McCracken Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 At the end of yesterday's class, we lost half the audio again to JSU - that is, they could hear us but we couldn't hear them. However, unlike the earlier problems yesterday, our AudioTool frame was still o.k. We tried Stop and Start, but it didn't fix it. We only had 15 minutes of class left, so we just made do with one-way audio for the rest of class. Nancy From - Fri Oct 03 16:38:08 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA18196; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:15:50 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <343545F0.41C6@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 15:22:24 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake CC: roman Subject: homepage Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 /usr/local/archives/public/html/users/jake/ -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Fri Oct 03 19:27:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id SAA21337 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:15:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA21332 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 18:15:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-Id: <199710032215.SAA21332@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Subject: network changes Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:15:43 -0400 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi The network changes made on wed have been reversed out as they were causing more problems than they solved. osprey1-7 and tarkovsky have been rebooted. If you observer problems please let us know Regards, Todd --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Mon Oct 06 10:20:46 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA23515 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:45:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA06642 for jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:45:55 -0400 (EDT) From: daemon@npac.syr.edu Message-Id: <199710060345.XAA06642@nova.npac.syr.edu> To: jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu Subject: printer job Content-Type: text Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Your printer job (readme.txt) could not be printed Messages from output filter: unprintable character (0xa9)! From - Mon Oct 06 14:24:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id LAA01398 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA01393; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:19:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Message-ID: <3439031F.41C6@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:26:23 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tango CC: roman Subject: [tango] vic/vat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 I found source code (icluding port for Win95/NT). roman From - Mon Oct 06 16:49:21 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA05888 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:24:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA05878 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:24:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA13125 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:22:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199710061922.PAA13125@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] please port this applet to tango Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:22:31 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, Nancy and I feel the following applet would be good for starters: http://www.npac.syr.edu/projects/tutorials/Java/examples1.1/Events/MouseEvents/EventTest.html It requires Java 1.1. Thanks, Tom Scavo ------- Forwarded Message To: trscavo@boss.npac.syr.edu, marek@boss.npac.syr.edu, njm@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Interesting Thing to do Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 23:50:56 -0400 From: Geoffrey Fox I believe that it would be very helpful to port a few applets to Tango and see if useful in teaching! This would have technical and political value ... Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 ------- End of Forwarded Message From - Mon Oct 06 16:57:37 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA07576; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <343950B8.983CBEF7@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 16:57:28 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Weekly report Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Weekly report Tango - Installing Buena Vista version 2.3 on toadstool and rockinghorse. - Testing Buena Vista ver. 2.3 on Tango between toadstool and rockinghorse. - Reporting for the test of Buena Vista. - Monitoring on-line class of Jackson State University and reporting about the problem. Netscape SuitSpot - Installing Catalog Server. Jungkee Kim From - Mon Oct 06 18:26:51 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA07738; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:00:24 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <34395311.2781@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 17:07:29 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake CC: roman Subject: seem me Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Could you seem me asap thanks roman -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Mon Oct 06 18:59:24 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA09583; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:57:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <34396D40.752BB9BF@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 18:59:13 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Concerning NPAC Server Statistics Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Dear Dr. Markowski: I've met Dr. Fox and heard about the mission. He want me to understand the Perl program first and anounced that you will give me where the source and references are. Please let me know the location or time to meet you. Jungkee (Jake) Kim From - Tue Oct 07 17:24:50 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA27353; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:15:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <343AA82B.1CFB@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 17:22:51 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake CC: roman Subject: statistics Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 log archive is exported and available on many workstations via /project/C067/logs - current logs log_archive - archive nova: cd /project/npac_srvtools/bin/stats run.sh runs on clyde and starts: on clyde wwwstat.sh on nova gwstat.sh on clyde run_month.sh (only once per month) wwwstat.sh logs --> wwwstats.pl --> wwwstats.html gwstats.sh wwwwstats.html ---> gwstat.pl --> file.gif file-chip.gif --> stats.gif Sep1 http://www.npac.syr.edu/stats/myarchive-sep1/hourly.gif wwwstats.html From - Tue Oct 07 23:10:53 1997 Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id UAA00162; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:37:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA23234; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:38:01 -0400 Message-Id: <199710080038.UAA23234@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, beca@trurl.npac.syr.edu, toju@trurl.npac.syr.edu, konrad@trurl.npac.syr.edu, piotr@trurl.npac.syr.edu, walczak@trurl.npac.syr.edu, stach@trurl.npac.syr.edu, norka@top.cis.syr.edu, toma@trurl.npac.syr.edu, gcf@trurl.npac.syr.edu, roman@postoffice.npac.syr.edu, jake@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: njm@trurl.npac.syr.edu, trscavo@trurl.npac.syr.edu, deepak@trurl.npac.syr.edu, zeynep@trurl.npac.syr.edu, roman@trurl.npac.syr.edu, bartw@trurl.npac.syr.edu, grzes@trurl.npac.syr.edu, kemal@trurl.npac.syr.edu, remek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, proman@trurl.npac.syr.edu, yuzhu@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: Talking Heads Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 20:38:01 -0400 Sender: marek@npac.syr.edu Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 applet has been improved by removing all old graphics and installing a new set. i have used Norka's characters albeit only in limited fashion (no moods). as far as i can see. the applet is very stable on PCs, and respectable on SGIs (the previous version crashed my browser regularly). new TH is available from the regular CA (== newCA) as "2D Chat" Tom Jurga will work on a revamp of the entire code later this month. all improvement suggestions are welcome. Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Wed Oct 08 13:41:02 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id NAA11425 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA11416 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA25584 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 13:30:34 -0400 Message-Id: <199710081730.NAA25584@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@postoffice.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] JSU lecture 10/7/97 Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 13:30:33 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, We had some problems with the audio yesterday. Roman traced the problem back to JSU and---sure enough---a few moments later, Mike discovered a broken cable between the microphone and the workstation. (Evidently, the cable will have to be replaced.) Nancy delivered the lecture anyway, but students were unable to ask questions...the silence was deafening. We also had some problems showing addons in WebWisdom. Twice when the students clicked on links in the addon window, they received JavaScript errors, but interestingly, when they tried it a third time, it worked. (Yes, we know about the history thing in WebWisdom, but we forget about it for a split second. Anyway, it's not easy to turn over an example to the students via the history mechanism.) Next time we're thinking of using the shared browser to show Java examples. We were wondering if the shared browser will load a 1.1 applet? Is this dependent on the underlying browser? We've said this before, but what we need most is an easy way of showing examples, whether they be Java, JavaScript, CGI, or HTML. The ideal system would mirror all mouse clicks on each individual workstation, so that the instructor can walk the student through an example. If the instructor so chooses, the student should be able to click on links as well. Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Fri Oct 10 13:53:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id IAA16536 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:00:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA16531 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA21484 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:00:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710101200.IAA21484@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: trscavo@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] JSU lecture 10/7/97 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 09 Oct 1997 09:57:36 EDT." <343CE2D0.7EB1@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:00:03 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 >> Next time we're thinking of using >> the shared browser to show Java examples. We were wondering if >> the shared browser will load a 1.1 applet? Is this dependent >> on the underlying browser? > >java 1.1. applets do not execute in netscape 3.01 environment >without a patch. the patch is available from netscape. the shared >browser should start the applet. we better test it though! So I think you're telling me that the shared browser runs on top of another browser and is therefore dependent on this underlying browser. (I'm just trying to understand the architecture a little better.) Speaking of Java 1.1, Mehmet Sen distributed some material yesterday, which seemed to indicate that even Communicator is incomplete with respect to 1.1. So if anyone knows of a Netscape product that is Java 1.1-compliant, please let us know! (I have to show Java 1.1 applets in class next week and, other than appletviewer, I really don't have a way to do so!) >... you guys need a shared-display system. i would >think that we need to see this as a separate project, and assign >a team to write an example browser. if would help if you gave us >a representative selection of contents. I don't understand...you need a detailed specification of the application I have in mind? I can do that, but not right now because I have more example applets to write for next week... Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Fri Oct 10 13:53:03 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id IAA16816 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA16811 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA21662 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:21:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710101221.IAA21662@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: trscavo@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] JSU lecture 10/9/97 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:21:30 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 -- Today we used the shared browser to show examples, which worked better than the addon mechanism in WebWisdom. About halfway through the lecture, however, some of the shared browsers in Jackson got out of synch (they weren't seeing the example we were trying to show) so we closed all shared browser windows remotely, opened them again, and everything was fine. -- The JavaScript confirm and alert windows don't convey any useful information...can they be removed from the shared browser? -- The back button doesn't always work. Actually, I discovered after the lecture was over that you have to select a URL in the pop-up menu before pressing the back button. Okay, that's fine, but I didn't expect the back button to work that way (which is different than the back button in Navigator). Perhaps this button should be labeled "Go", which is a more accurate description of what it does. -- The control frame in the shared browser window should be larger initially, so we can see all the controls at once. (We didn't think of enlarging this frame, since we've been trained *not* to resize windows in Tango and, especially, WebWisdom.) -- The following 1.0 applet did not display in our shared browser window: http://www.npac.syr.edu/projects/tutorials/Java/examples/MyRect/MyRect.html Fortunately, it *did* display in the shared browser windows in Jackson (which is strange). Any idea why? Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Fri Oct 10 13:53:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id KAA19180 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:45:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA19175; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:45:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Message-ID: <343E3FC3.794B@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:46:27 -0400 From: Marek Podgorny Organization: NPAC, Syracuse University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01SGoldC-SGI (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Scavo CC: njm, tango Subject: Re: [tango] JSU lecture 10/9/97 References: <199710101221.IAA21662@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Tom Scavo wrote: > > -- Today we used the shared browser to show examples, which > worked better than the addon mechanism in WebWisdom. About > halfway through the lecture, however, some of the shared > browsers in Jackson got out of synch (they weren't seeing the > example we were trying to show) so we closed all shared browser > windows remotely, opened them again, and everything was fine. another workaround is to click the submitt button again - it is less relaible but less traumatic. > > -- The JavaScript confirm and alert windows don't convey any useful > information...can they be removed from the shared browser? some of them are debug, i guess.... which messages you dislike? > > -- The back button doesn't always work. Actually, I discovered > after the lecture was over that you have to select a URL in the > pop-up menu before pressing the back button. Okay, that's fine, > but I didn't expect the back button to work that way (which is > different than the back button in Navigator). Perhaps this > button should be labeled "Go", which is a more accurate > description of what it does. back button always works, but it is true that it works differently than netscape back button. shared browser builds a history list of all visited URLs. the list is chronological, but it only holds unique items, i.e., if you visit the same page twice, only the first visit will be recorded. this was design decision. i can change it if you want, but it seemed to me that in the context of a class, a less-cluttered history list is more useful. there is another catch: if you select a random targed from the history list, it updates the upper field, but does not really go there. i wanted to make it automatic, but failed. so, what you need to do now is to select from history list, and click submit in the upper row of control panel. > > -- The control frame in the shared browser window should be > larger initially, so we can see all the controls at once. (We > didn't think of enlarging this frame, since we've been trained > *not* to resize windows in Tango and, especially, WebWisdom.) OK, will do. the reason it is done this way is that the slave browser can use larger area - slave does not get hostory list displayed. > > -- The following 1.0 applet did not display in our shared > browser window: > > http://www.npac.syr.edu/projects/tutorials/Java/examples/MyRect/MyRect.html > > Fortunately, it *did* display in the shared browser windows in > Jackson (which is strange). Any idea why? i can think of few. remeber that ONLY slave browsers directly go to an URL, and only slave browsers see actual web pages. the master broswer sees the web pages that were filtered by a perl script that adjusts all the links to make them shareable. this process is not 100% reliable. in particular, we have found out that if there are more than two JS handlers attached to an obect on the page, and our script modifies only one, then the entire procedure breaks down, although it should'nt really, based on our understanding of JS. so, shared browser performance strongly depends on page contents. we recognize weaknesses of this current implementation. we will have better browser soon. > > Cheers, > Tom Scavo -- marek podgorny, npac, syracuse university, (315) 443-4879 marek@npac.syr.edu, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Fri Oct 10 13:53:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id KAA19379 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA19374; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:54:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA28895; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:52:55 -0400 Message-Id: <199710101452.KAA28895@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Marek Podgorny cc: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] JSU lecture 10/9/97 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:46:27 EDT." <343E3FC3.794B@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:52:54 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 >Tom Scavo wrote: >> >> -- Today we used the shared browser to show examples, which >> worked better than the addon mechanism in WebWisdom. About >> halfway through the lecture, however, some of the shared >> browsers in Jackson got out of synch (they weren't seeing the >> example we were trying to show) so we closed all shared browser >> windows remotely, opened them again, and everything was fine. > >another workaround is to click the submitt button again - it is less >relaible but less traumatic. Yes, we tried that, but it didn't work. Oftentimes it works, but not this time. >> -- The JavaScript confirm and alert windows don't convey any useful >> information...can they be removed from the shared browser? > >some of them are debug, i guess.... which messages you dislike? All of them, I guess. We start to panic whenever we see alerts. :-) Thanks, Tom From - Sun Oct 12 15:14:52 1997 Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA21658; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA27861; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199710121807.OAA27861@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: gcf@localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: jake@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu cc: roman@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: Changes in Statistics Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 14:07:22 -0400 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 1)"by archive" should have say 10 pages so that as in web search engines you get buttons saying 1 2 3 4 .. next previous allowing you to browse the top 400 not top 40 hits 2)"by subject" should have 2 pages not 1 3)"by subject" should allow Regular expression A satisfied but NOT regular expression B 4)remove 7 day plot 5)add "npac" and syr (not npac) to "domain" plot as separate rows If you can identify "spiders" as a domian that would be useful (ask roman) 6)For first 4 plots (archive subject hour domain) make available in several time intervals including at least Most recent day (saturday today) Most recent month (october today) All the months of 1997 (January to September) separately Last 12 complete months separtely (oct 96 to sept 97) All of 1996 All of 1997 7)For first 4 plots (archive subject hour domain) make available in Most recent month separately for "all" "NPAC only" "syr not NPAC" Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu 8)Later we will link SciVis so that we can look at correlation This will I think be a very popular product! However first lets tackle the above Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Mon Oct 13 15:29:37 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA07197 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA29754 for jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:26:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 15:26:54 -0400 (EDT) From: daemon@npac.syr.edu Message-Id: <199710131926.PAA29754@nova.npac.syr.edu> To: jake@merkury.npac.syr.edu Subject: printer job Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Your printer job (readme.txt) could not be printed Messages from output filter: unprintable character (0xa9)! From - Mon Oct 13 16:38:05 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA08187; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:36:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3442868D.D21FE37A@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:37:34 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu CC: jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Weekly report Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Weekly report Tango - Testing "Talking Heads" on Single PC Netscape SuitSpot - Reinstalling Collabra Server and Catalog Server - Installing RDS Server Statistics - Probing shell and perl programs - Investigating wwwstat.html and wwwstat_28.html files - Running test programs for finding the meaning of data - Probing the hourly data for unagreement graph and reporting Jungkee Kim From - Mon Oct 13 18:14:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id QAA08111 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:30:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA08103; Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:30:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-ID: <344286E3.2781@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:38:59 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fyi-everyone CC: roman Subject: IBM and Digital equipment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 NPAC is considering closing all IBM and Digital equipment by the end of this year. It will include: SP2, kayak, ike, ben, mel, afognak Alpha farm, ace, king and other Please let me know asap which services will be affected. To avoid interruption of these services please arrange transfer to one of platforms which NPAC will support in future: Solaris, IRIX, WindowsNT/95 regards roman -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Tue Oct 14 09:52:03 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA18638; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:21:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA02459; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:16:43 -0400 Message-Id: <199710141216.IAA02459@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: roman@boss.npac.syr.edu, jake@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Statistics are null .... Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:16:43 -0400 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 800b see http://www.npac.syr.edu/stats/index.html Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Tue Oct 14 10:29:42 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA20391; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <344381C6.1CC5EB76@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:29:26 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gcf@npac.syr.edu CC: roman@boss.npac.syr.edu, jake@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Statistics are null .... References: <199710141216.IAA02459@boss.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 801b Dear Dr. Fox and Dr. Markowski: Geoffrey Fox wrote: > see http://www.npac.syr.edu/stats/index.html > > Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu > Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science > Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 I think that it is caused by the link file at subdirectory "/project/www_npac_log". I found the subdirectory linked to other place newly yesterday morning and the shell programs may have not be able to find the linked directory today morning. >From "g.sh" file at "/project/npac_srvtools/bin/stats/" : nova_bin=/project/npac_srvtools/bin/stats docroot=/usr/local/archives/public/html #logroot=/project/C067 logroot=/project/www_npac_log <== CURRENT LOG FILE DIRECTORY tmp=$logroot/tmp Link File list: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 38 Oct 14 10:03 /project/www_npac_log -> /tmp_mnt/project/www_npac_log However, the statistics of yesterday's data can be generated by running as a batch program. Because I didn't touch anything yesterday and I found the log files and other programs are OK on the right place. Jungkee (Jake) Kim From - Tue Oct 14 10:42:00 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA20634; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <344384B1.1995DD7B@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:41:53 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gcf@npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu, jake@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Statistics are null .... References: <199710141216.IAA02459@boss.npac.syr.edu> <344381C6.1CC5EB76@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8019 I think I have to revise my previous analysis. The link file which I pointed out on the previous letter was actually changed when I wrote the letter. I cannot remember the status of file exactly. However, I think the null file must be happend by the link file. Jungkee (Jake) Kim From - Tue Oct 14 12:29:35 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA21977; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:06:14 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <34439A6C.15FB@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:14:36 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jake Kim CC: gcf@npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu, jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, systems, trscavo Subject: Re: Statistics are null .... References: <199710141216.IAA02459@boss.npac.syr.edu> <344381C6.1CC5EB76@npac.syr.edu> <344384B1.1995DD7B@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8019 Geoffrey, The problem is that the log_archive directory exceeded the magic number 1463 and the procedure filed with the message: /sbin/ls: Arg list or environment too large I moved all log files for the last year into 1996 subdirectory. The current number of files is 879 and the script works again. I restarted the statistics scripts manually. we need to wait a few hours for results. We can experience troubles with the server during the day because the statistics puts heavy load on clyde's CPU (~90%). I can interrupt it if you wish... roman Jake Kim wrote: > > I think I have to revise my previous analysis. The link file which I > pointed out on the previous letter was actually changed when I wrote the > letter. I cannot remember the status of file exactly. However, I think the > null file must be happend by the link file. > > Jungkee (Jake) Kim -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Tue Oct 14 12:29:35 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA22129; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:12:33 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <34439BE7.59E2@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:20:55 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jake Kim , gcf@npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu, jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, systems, trscavo Subject: Re: Statistics are null .... References: <199710141216.IAA02459@boss.npac.syr.edu> <344381C6.1CC5EB76@npac.syr.edu> <344384B1.1995DD7B@npac.syr.edu> <34439A6C.15FB@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 801b I stopped the script and restart it tonight roman Roman Markowski wrote: > > Geoffrey, > > The problem is that the log_archive directory exceeded the magic number > 1463 and the procedure filed with the message: > /sbin/ls: Arg list or environment too large > I moved all log files for the last year into 1996 subdirectory. > The current number of files is 879 and the script works again. > I restarted the statistics scripts manually. we need to wait a few > hours for results. > We can experience troubles with the server during the day > because the statistics puts heavy load on clyde's CPU (~90%). > I can interrupt it if you wish... > roman From - Tue Oct 14 14:05:48 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA22547; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:42:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <3443A2D0.ABD@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 12:50:24 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jake Kim Subject: Re: Statistics are null .... References: <199710141216.IAA02459@boss.npac.syr.edu> <344381C6.1CC5EB76@npac.syr.edu> <344384B1.1995DD7B@npac.syr.edu> <34439A6C.15FB@npac.syr.edu> <34439BE7.59E2@npac.syr.edu> <34439F4B.41E290F5@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8019 Good suggestion, but cannot be done. Satistics puts so heavy load on clyde, that we cannot run it during the day roman Jake Kim wrote: > > I suggest you run statistics and finish it before midnight. After midnight > the statistics > would be useless as the yesterday's statistics. > > Roman Markowski wrote: > > > I stopped the script and restart it tonight > > roman > > > > Roman Markowski wrote: > > > > > > Geoffrey, > > > > > > The problem is that the log_archive directory exceeded the magic number > > > 1463 and the procedure filed with the message: > > > /sbin/ls: Arg list or environment too large > > > I moved all log files for the last year into 1996 subdirectory. > > > The current number of files is 879 and the script works again. > > > I restarted the statistics scripts manually. we need to wait a few > > > hours for results. > > > We can experience troubles with the server during the day > > > because the statistics puts heavy load on clyde's CPU (~90%). > > > I can interrupt it if you wish... > > > roman -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Wed Oct 15 03:16:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA24400 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:44:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA24395 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:44:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-Id: <199710141844.OAA24395@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Subject: Wed morning maintanence 1997/10/15 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 14:44:02 -0400 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Hi Tomorrow morning, 0800-1000 the NPAC network will be disrupted for testing and maintanence. We will try very hard to confine our work to 0800-0900. We have to test a new configuration for the main router (decnis) and replace some hardware in a LANplex Regards, Todd --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Wed Oct 15 11:09:50 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id JAA08208 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:54:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA08202 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:54:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-Id: <199710151354.JAA08202@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Subject: Maintanence is Done Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:54:04 -0400 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 Hi Today's (1997/10/15) maintanence is done. The Lanplex upgrade went fine. We had to backout of the DECnis upgrade because it did not work We will have to take this up again some time in the future. If you observer any problems, please let us know. Regards, Todd --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Fri Oct 17 16:54:12 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA24160; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 16:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Sender: roman Message-ID: <3447CD36.7DE1@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 16:40:22 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake Subject: env Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 nova.npac.syr.edu% su - httpadm Password: nova:/home/B10F/httpadm% env USER=httpadm LOGNAME=httpadm HOME=/home/B10F/httpadm SHELL=/bin/csh PATH=.:/project/C420/s/npac_master_httpd-1.3/admin/tools/bin-gang:.:/usr/ucb:/bin:/usr/bin:.:/usr/local/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb TERM=iris-ansi PWD=/home/B10F/httpadm MANPATH=/usr/local/software/ssh/1.2.18/man:/usr/man IOFFICE=/usr/local/ioffice_3.0 nova:/home/B10F/httpadm% From - Sat Oct 18 13:05:14 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id GAA04832 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA18410 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:50:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199710181050.GAA18410@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Any Progress with changes yet? Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:50:13 -0400 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8003 Did you make progress with statistics improvements? Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Sun Oct 19 15:01:29 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id NAA22011 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rmgate (rmgate.npac.syr.edu [128.230.163.131]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA22003; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:47:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-ID: <344A4942.2EDB@npac.syr.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 13:54:10 -0400 From: Roman Markowski Organization: NPAC SU X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fyi-everyone CC: roman Subject: systems support Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Ladies and Gentlemen, From now on all non-emergency e-mail messages and requests coming from students will be forwarded to their teachers and project leaders. Students are not allowed to request for example - corrections in NIS, DNS, WINS - disk space allocations on web servers and file servers - changes of permissions - creating accounts - creating/deleting/modifying groups, aliases, majordomo lists These requests should be sent to a Project Leader and then the PL can send it to *systems* or *hostmaster* if the request is justified. The typical request "I need more disk space" is definitely not enough to be implemented. The request should specify the amount of disk space, project, permissions, purpose, expected growth and traffic. The initial list of people who can directly communicate with systems team in order to request NPAC services and resources includes: Geoffrey Fox, gcf Marek Podgorny, marek Wojtek Furmanski, furm Nancy McCracken, njm (education) Bryan Carpenter, dbc (pcrc) David Warner, davew (pulsar, etc) Scott Klasky, scott Dave Bernholdt, bernhold Ed Lipson, edlipson Ernie Sibert, sibert (ECS Students) Simon Catterall, smc (Physics Students) For PLs and researchers: If you are not on this list and want to be included, please apply to Geoffrey Fox regrads roman ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Mon Oct 20 16:11:37 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA13716; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:10:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <344BBAEF.7CB5579E@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:11:28 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu CC: jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Weekly Report Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Weekly report Tango - Monitoring on-line class of Jackson State University. (Still closing problems as I reported before.) Statistics - Running test programs for extracting log files for gethering data of several time intervals. - Running test programs for probing the current generating graphs of 'Archive' and 'Domain' - Investigating Perl codes for generating new data Jungkee (Jake) Kim From - Tue Oct 21 20:25:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA03907 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:51:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA03902; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:51:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-ID: <344D0A06.794B@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:01:10 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fyi-onsite CC: roman Subject: sandman Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Roman Markowski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 In a result of a disk failure on sandman a few days ago we lost 2 logical volumes : xlv1 and xlv2. The failed disk kept only log files, but unfortunately the data on xlv1 (spread over dks2d1s7, dks2d2s7, and dks2d4s7) and on xlv2 (dsk2d3s7) remain non-recoverable. SGI support has been able to recreate the problem at their site and have consulted with their engineering folks. SGI engineering believes that this is most likely a new bug in XFS file system implementation. An SGI engineer is now working with the SGI support rep to try and find a workaround. Anyway, our chances to recover the data are very small. Sandman is restarted without 2 filesystems mounted previously as /movies1 and /movies2 PLEASE LET ME KNOW who had data on sandman in the following directories: sandman:/movies1 sandman:/movies2 sandman:/scratch sandman:/disk126 Sandman is back in service. The failed disk is replaced by the new 4 GB disk, mounted as /disk127. Logical volume xlv3 mounted as /disk137 survived. The prevous disk tower is attached to beast and will remain there till the moment we definitely know that the data remain inaccessible regards -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Tue Oct 21 22:12:19 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id WAA10507; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <344D60EC.EFC65AEC@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:11:57 -0400 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: event@hansol.co.kr CC: jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Korean Series Quiz Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 2. LGƮ�� From - Wed Oct 22 09:26:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id IAA18332 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:20:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 128.230.51.205 (npacdial1-205.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.205]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA18327 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:20:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Message-ID: <344DFDCB.16A3@npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:21:24 -0500 From: Tom Scavo Reply-To: trscavo@npac.syr.edu Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tango@npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] WebWisdom error Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, As we began yesterday's lecture, WebWisdom started giving us errors of the form: JavaScript Confirm: ... loading InfoPage ... this could be a serious problem. (Evidently this is an error message generated by the code itself.) We reloaded WebWisdom (which takes time) and everything was fine after that. Anyone know what might have caused this problem? Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Wed Oct 22 13:32:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id MAA23424 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:49:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA23414; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:49:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA27426; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:47:57 -0400 Message-Id: <199710221647.MAA27426@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: roman@postoffice.npac.syr.edu cc: tango@postoffice.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] Teaching Tools Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:47:56 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi Roman, As you know, NPAC is giving both a presentation and a demonstration at Teaching Tools '97. The conference will be held on the SU campus on Thursday, November 6th. See http://www-fcms.syr.edu/ttools.html for details. The presentation begins at 1:30pm on the third floor of the Schine Student Center. We will need two machines set up in the presentation room so that we can demo the synchronous capabilities of Tango. We will also need our own projection system. The demonstration is continuous from 9am to 4:30pm. Equipment may be set up the previous day. See the attached memo from Beth Ruffo, the conference coordinator, for details. I will coordinate a volunteer schedule for the demonstration booth. We will need at least one person and preferrably two people there at all times. Thanks, Tom Scavo ------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:36:37 -0500 To: "Tom Scavo" From: bdruffo@mailbox.syr.edu (Beth Ruffo) Subject: Re: works-in-progress Hi Tom: Please be sure to bring your own power strips as the conference cannot provide this resource. Equipment delivery and setup: Set up will be from 3 PM until 7 PM the day before the conference Weds. 11/5/97 in the Goldstein Auditorium at Schine Student Center. OR from 7:30 AM until 9 AM the conference day. Security will be on hand from 3 PM on 11/5 until 8:30 AM on 11/6 The doors open to the public at 9 AM in the Works/Vendor Area. For Parking to unload equipment: Check the web page for the campus map Come down Waverly Avenue with the Schine Center on your right, Go past all 3 loading docks and park at the left rear (as you face the bldg) Walk just past the end of the bldng. around the corner, there will be a door which will bring you into the Goldstein Auditorium. This door should be open and staffed by approx. 7:35 AM. Or Park in front of Schine - NOT ON THE BRICK WALKWAY AREA Bring items in through the atrium Elevator is on your right Go down one floor Exit left from the elevator to your table area I'll provide a layout of the room toward the end of next week so you'll know where the location will be. We will have staff on to help you cart & carry in equipment. Please advise when you'll set up. I really suggest Weds. if you can do it. Thanks Beth Beth D. Ruffo Sr. Instructional Consultant Faculty Computing and Media Services Syracuse University 272 Newhouse II Syracuse, New York 13244-2110 office: (315) 443-1806 fax: (315) 443-5658 From - Wed Oct 22 13:32:49 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id MAA23661 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:59:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA23656 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:59:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA27441 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:57:18 -0400 Message-Id: <199710221657.MAA27441@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@postoffice.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] Teaching Tools Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 12:57:18 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, NPAC is giving a demonstration of Tango at Teaching Tools '97 on the SU campus on Thursday, November 6th from 9am to 4:30pm. See http://www-fcms.syr.edu/ttools.html and especially http://www-fcms.syr.edu/ttools97/wip/wip.html for details. Volunteers are needed at the demonstration booth throughout the day. Please contact me to schedule a time to work at the booth. Thanks, Tom Scavo From - Thu Oct 23 15:34:16 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id NAA14650 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:21:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA14645; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:21:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-ID: <344F89F7.353C@npac.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:31:35 -0400 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fyi-everyone CC: roman Subject: Access to ospreys and kopernik in NPAC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Ladies and Gentlemen, The cluster of Sun UltraSPARCs (ospreyX.npac.syr.edu) and SGI Challenge L (kopernik.npac.syr.edu) cannot be used for production runs except for official funded projects. Even latter can be restricted to make ospreys and kopernik usable for interactive and development work. Current use is seriously degrading service for critical NPAC projects. If it is continued, an appropriate administrative procedure will be enabled. regards roman ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Sat Oct 25 19:09:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id QAA11069 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:55:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA11064 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:55:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA11444 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:53:47 -0400 Message-Id: <199710242053.QAA11444@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@postoffice.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] WebWisdom error In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:21:24 CDT." <344DFDCB.16A3@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:53:46 -0400 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 >As we began yesterday's lecture, WebWisdom started giving us >errors of the form: > > JavaScript Confirm: ... loading InfoPage ... this could be > a serious problem. > >(Evidently this is an error message generated by the code itself.) >We reloaded WebWisdom (which takes time) and everything was fine >after that. Anyone know what might have caused this problem? This happened again on Thursday, 10/23. Once again, restarting WW (which takes time) fixed the problem. Also, we tried something different today, that is, we joined the entire class to the chat session. This worked well for the most part, but I wonder if we couldn't get rid of the sounds? A menu of canned responses is still a great idea, but the sounds are annoying. I hope the PCs in the new lab at JSU have headsets...two-way audio will greatly enhance the interactivity of the lectures. Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Sat Oct 25 19:09:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id KAA23981 for tango-outgoing; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA23976; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:52:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA26868; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:53:17 -0400 Message-Id: <199710251453.KAA26868@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Tom Scavo" cc: tango@postoffice.npac.syr.edu, marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, gcf@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny Subject: Re: [tango] WebWisdom error In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:53:46 EDT." <199710242053.QAA11444@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:53:16 -0400 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 >>As we began yesterday's lecture, WebWisdom started giving us >>errors of the form: >> >> JavaScript Confirm: ... loading InfoPage ... this could be >> a serious problem. Geoffrey - is this coming from WebWisdom? i do not recognize this as anything produced by tango.... > >Also, we tried something different today, that is, we joined the >entire class to the chat session. This worked well for the most >part, but I wonder if we couldn't get rid of the sounds? A menu >of canned responses is still a great idea, but the sounds are >annoying. there is a simple chat that has no sounds and much larger chat window. i will configure it into the virtual university folder for your > >I hope the PCs in the new lab at JSU have headsets...two-way >audio will greatly enhance the interactivity of the lectures. headsets are $10 apiece... - but they will also need mikes. do we have any info about the sound cards they are installing? > >Cheers, >Tom Scavo Reply by Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Sun Oct 26 18:03:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA11862 for tango-outgoing; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:19:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA11857; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:19:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA13235; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:17:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199710262017.PAA13235@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Marek Podgorny cc: tango@postoffice.npac.syr.edu, bernhold@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, mrobinsn@ccaix.jsums.edu Subject: [tango] microphones In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:53:16 EDT." <199710251453.KAA26868@trurl.npac.syr.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 15:17:48 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 > >I hope the PCs in the new lab at JSU have headsets...two-way > >audio will greatly enhance the interactivity of the lectures. > >headsets are $10 apiece... - but they will also need mikes. Yes, I was referring to a headset with an attached microphone. >do we have any info about the sound cards they are installing? In the new lab at JSU? I don't know. [Dave? Mike?] Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Mon Oct 27 13:44:07 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id LAA25992 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:09:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA25987; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:09:32 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-ID: <3454BF33.FF6@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:20:03 -0500 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fyi-onsite CC: roman Subject: Systems support Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Roman Markowski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 To all NPAC network users: Systems team will hold a session-seminar on how to properly use computational resources in NPAC: Date: October 30th, 1997 (Thursday) Time: 10 am Place: 3-216 NPAC Duration: 1 hour Speaker: Todd Olson For those who cannot attend the first session, it will be repeated on Tuesday, November 4th at 10am. Every Researcher, staff member or student that ever needs to use the NPAC facilities should plan to attend this session. We have gone through a number of changes over the last months and there are some changes that MUST be understood if you want to continue to use these resources. You will hear about Policies (accounts, disk space, domains, web servers) Planned changes (future of IBM and Digital equipment) Network configuration Security issues Available services Communication with systems team A signing sheet will be utilized during the session It is to your benefit and the cost effectiveness of NPAC to get a brief understanding of our facilities. You will also get some information as to where we are moving with regard to our computational resources. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. I'm sure your time in attendance will be well spent. regards roman -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Wed Oct 29 22:10:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id QAA10301 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 16:27:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA10296; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 16:27:50 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-ID: <3457ACE3.167E@npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 16:38:43 -0500 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fyi-onsite, roman Subject: Reminder: systems session Thursday 10am References: <3454BF33.FF6@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Roman Markowski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 > > To all NPAC network users: > > Systems team will hold a session-seminar on how to properly use > computational resources in NPAC: > > Date: October 30th, 1997 (Thursday) > Time: 10 am > Place: 3-216 NPAC > Duration: 1 hour > Speaker: Todd Olson > > For those who cannot attend the first session, it will be repeated on > Tuesday, November 4th at 10am. > > Every Researcher, staff member or student that ever needs to use the > NPAC facilities should plan to attend this session. We have gone > through a number of changes over the last months and there are some > changes that MUST be understood if you want to continue to use these > resources. You will hear about > Policies (accounts, disk space, domains, web servers) > Planned changes (future of IBM and Digital equipment) > Network configuration > Security issues > Available services > Communication with systems team > > A signing sheet will be utilized during the session > > It is to your benefit and the cost effectiveness of NPAC to get a brief > understanding of our facilities. You will also get some information as > to where we are moving with regard to our computational resources. > > Thank you in advance for your cooperation. I'm sure your time in > attendance will be well spent. > regards > roman > > -- > ********************************************************************** > * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * > * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * > * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * > * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * > * email roman@npac.syr.edu * > ********************************************************************** --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Thu Oct 30 21:42:40 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA29476 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:46:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA29471; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:46:07 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-ID: <3458E695.2781@npac.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:57:09 -0500 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fyi-onsite, roman Subject: Re: Reminder: systems session Thursday 10am References: <3454BF33.FF6@npac.syr.edu> <3457ACE3.167E@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Roman Markowski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 THANKS to all af you who participated in today's session. If you have any comments or suggestions please e-mail to roman@npac.syr.edu (with cc to systems@npac.syr.edu). For people who could not attend the first session, it will be the second chance on Tuesday, November 4th at 10 am. Thanks for your cooperation roman Roman Markowski wrote: > > > > > To all NPAC network users: > > > > Systems team will hold a session-seminar on how to properly use > > computational resources in NPAC: > > > > Date: October 30th, 1997 (Thursday) > > Time: 10 am > > Place: 3-216 NPAC > > Duration: 1 hour > > Speaker: Todd Olson > > > > For those who cannot attend the first session, it will be repeated on > > Tuesday, November 4th at 10am. > > > > Every Researcher, staff member or student that ever needs to use the > > NPAC facilities should plan to attend this session. We have gone > > through a number of changes over the last months and there are some > > changes that MUST be understood if you want to continue to use these > > resources. You will hear about > > Policies (accounts, disk space, domains, web servers) > > Planned changes (future of IBM and Digital equipment) > > Network configuration > > Security issues > > Available services > > Communication with systems team > > > > A signing sheet will be utilized during the session > > > > It is to your benefit and the cost effectiveness of NPAC to get a brief > > understanding of our facilities. You will also get some information as > > to where we are moving with regard to our computational resources. > > > > Thank you in advance for your cooperation. I'm sure your time in > > attendance will be well spent. > > regards > > roman > > ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Fri Oct 31 15:28:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA16905 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:31:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA16900 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:31:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA12420 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:29:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199710311929.OAA12420@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] JSU lectures (10/28 and 10/30) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:29:03 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, Here are some observations regarding this week's Tango sessions. -- On both days this week, the lecture was interrupted by unwanted remote audio. There must be some way for the master to terminate this audio. Any ideas? -- The Select All button in the Remote Open dialog continues to be a godsend, but it should also be possible to make multiple selections in the scrollable list. (To be honest, I haven't tried it, so forgive me if this feature already exists.) -- The Shared Browser is working well for us. Of course it would be nice if the master could actually see the applet in his/her shared browser window, but as long the participants can see the applet, we can live with this limitation. -- Navigation in the Shared Browser is still clumsy. First of all, not all of the control frame is visible in the shared browser window, so before a button is pressed or the history list is accessed, the control frame must be scrolled (which wastes time). Also, why must there be a submit button? Why not immediately respond to returns in the URL textfield and selections in the history list? (This is the way Navigator does it.) -- The vertical scrollbars in the control panel are buggy. Dragging the scrollbox, for instance, doesn't work as expected. List items sometimes disappear, although they can always be made to reappear (by fiddling with the scrollbar controls). -- Basic Chat is too large. If the annoying sounds in regular Chat were removed, I'd be happy with that. Also, why not let the master add short messages to the drop-down list? This could easily be done with an item labeled "Add...". -- There are too many Tango windows to manage. Marek had a good idea, however: clicking on a tool name in the scrollable list of the control panel and pressing a button should bring the corresponding window to the front. Other than that, please get rid of all unnecessary windows---screen real estate is at a premium! -- The WhiteBoard needs a text tool. (Many paint/draw apps have a text tool labeled with the letter "A", for example.) Also, how can the master prevent participants from writing in (or clearing!) the WhiteBoard window? We've gotten burned a couple of times by overzealous students pressing the Clear button... -- I broke a cardinal rule on Thursday: NEVER, NEVER resize the WebWisdom window! -- WebWisdom and the Shared Browser should be more tightly coupled. For example, WW maintains an HTML file of addon links for each foilset. Wouldn't it be nice if we could press a button in WW and have this HTML document loaded into the Shared Browser automatically? This would make it unnecessary for us to prepare a "browser list" of addon links for each lecture. Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Fri Oct 31 15:28:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA17070 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:42:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA17065; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:42:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA07424; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:42:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199710311942.OAA07424@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Tom Scavo" cc: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny Subject: Re: [tango] JSU lectures (10/28 and 10/30) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:29:03 EST." <199710311929.OAA12420@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:42:59 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 >Hi, > >Here are some observations regarding this week's Tango sessions. > >-- On both days this week, the lecture was interrupted by >unwanted remote audio. There must be some way for the master to >terminate this audio. Any ideas? well, there is a slider for volume control on the audio panel. moving it left will kill audio reception. we also plan to add mute button. > >-- The Select All button in the Remote Open dialog continues to >be a godsend, but it should also be possible to make multiple >selections in the scrollable list. (To be honest, I haven't >tried it, so forgive me if this feature already exists.) yes it does. clicking names is cumulative. > >-- The Shared Browser is working well for us. Of course it >would be nice if the master could actually see the applet in >his/her shared browser window, but as long the participants can >see the applet, we can live with this limitation. here i miss something. if you do not see the applet, smthg is wrong. need to investigate. > >-- Navigation in the Shared Browser is still clumsy. First of >all, not all of the control frame is visible in the shared >browser window, so before a button is pressed or the history >list is accessed, the control frame must be scrolled (which >wastes time). Also, why must there be a submit button? Why not >immediately respond to returns in the URL textfield and >selections in the history list? (This is the way Navigator does >it.) size is one problem - i will fix it. the 2nd request is harder, since i tried it already and failed for a reason i don't remeber - JS wasnt doing what i wanted it to. > >-- The vertical scrollbars in the control panel are buggy. >Dragging the scrollbox, for instance, doesn't work as expected. >List items sometimes disappear, although they can always be made >to reappear (by fiddling with the scrollbar controls). nothing can be done about it short of rewriting the entire thing. this is the behavior od symantec widgets. worse, the bahave differently on PCs and SGIs. it is commercial quality Java software ..... > >-- Basic Chat is too large. If the annoying sounds in regular >Chat were removed, I'd be happy with that. Also, why not let >the master add short messages to the drop-down list? This could >easily be done with an item labeled "Add...". ACK. > >-- There are too many Tango windows to manage. Marek had a good >idea, however: clicking on a tool name in the scrollable list >of the control panel and pressing a button should bring the >corresponding window to the front. Other than that, please get >rid of all unnecessary windows---screen real estate is at a >premium! this is another thing we already tried and failed. probably needs Java 1.1 AWT. > >-- The WhiteBoard needs a text tool. (Many paint/draw apps have >a text tool labeled with the letter "A", for example.) Also, how >can the master prevent participants from writing in (or >clearing!) the WhiteBoard window? We've gotten burned a couple >of times by overzealous students pressing the Clear button... ACK. here the thing is, we wanted whiteboard to run in master-master mode. you say master-slave would be better. this can be done. > >-- I broke a cardinal rule on Thursday: NEVER, NEVER resize the >WebWisdom window! > >-- WebWisdom and the Shared Browser should be more tightly >coupled. For example, WW maintains an HTML file of addon links >for each foilset. Wouldn't it be nice if we could press a >button in WW and have this HTML document loaded into the Shared >Browser automatically? This would make it unnecessary for us to >prepare a "browser list" of addon links for each lecture. i know. for this, i need extensions to JS Tango API. this was already discussed but not implemented. > >Cheers, >Tom Scavo Reply by Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Fri Oct 31 15:28:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA17790 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:23:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA17785; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:23:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA12489; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:21:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199710312021.PAA12489@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Marek Podgorny cc: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] JSU lectures (10/28 and 10/30) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:42:59 EST." <199710311942.OAA07424@trurl.npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:21:39 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 > >-- The Shared Browser is working well for us. Of course it > >would be nice if the master could actually see the applet in > >his/her shared browser window, but as long the participants can > >see the applet, we can live with this limitation. > >here i miss something. if you do not see the applet, smthg is wrong. >need to investigate. Oh, we thought this was a "feature"! :-) > >-- Basic Chat is too large. If the annoying sounds in regular > >Chat were removed, I'd be happy with that. Also, why not let > >the master add short messages to the drop-down list? This could > >easily be done with an item labeled "Add...". > >ACK. You don't like that idea? Well, I think the drop-down list of quicky messages is important since typing takes time. It's the sounds I don't like. The "Add..." idea is easy in Java, btw. > >-- The WhiteBoard needs a text tool. (Many paint/draw apps have > >a text tool labeled with the letter "A", for example.) Also, how > >can the master prevent participants from writing in (or > >clearing!) the WhiteBoard window? We've gotten burned a couple > >of times by overzealous students pressing the Clear button... > >ACK. here the thing is, we wanted whiteboard to run in master-master mode. >you say master-slave would be better. this can be done. No, both are desirable. Perhaps the master should have an exclusive lock that can be released. Thanks, Tom From - Sun Nov 02 18:53:17 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id KAA29175 for tango-outgoing; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:28:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA29170; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:28:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA20062; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 10:28:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711011528.KAA20062@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: trscavo@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: marek@npac.syr.edu Cc: tango@npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] JSU lectures (10/28 and 10/30) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 31 Oct 1997 22:00:34 EST." <345A9B52.27F4@npac.syr.edu> Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 10:28:04 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text Status: O X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 >> > >-- Basic Chat is too large. If the annoying sounds in regular >> > >Chat were removed, I'd be happy with that. Also, why not let >> > >the master add short messages to the drop-down list? This could >> > >easily be done with an item labeled "Add...". >> > >> >ACK. >> >> You don't like that idea? Well, I think the drop-down list of >> quicky messages is important since typing takes time. It's the >> sounds I don't like. The "Add..." idea is easy in Java, btw. > >i agree about sounds. they are actually configurable. i somebody >recorded another set of useful sounds, it is matter of minutes >to install them. B&B are not my favorites, believe me! I don't think we're understanding each other on this issue. The sounds are annoying and I suspect *any* set of sounds would be annoying (but I may be wrong). On the other hand, I like the drop-down list of short messages. In fact, there should be an "Add" item or button that lets the master add custom messages to the list on-the-fly. Cheers, Tom From - Sun Nov 02 18:53:17 1997 Received: from rmgate (rmgate.npac.syr.edu [128.230.163.131]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA11512; Sun, 2 Nov 1997 13:01:50 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <345D6A51.2276@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 01:08:17 -0500 From: Roman Markowski Organization: NPAC SU X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake CC: roman Subject: meeting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO X-Status: A X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 We have to meet on Monday I will be busy 9:00 - 10:30 am 10:30 - 11:30 am 1:00 - 2:00 pm 3:00 - 4:40 pm 5:30 - 7:00 pm What about 11:30-12:30 or 2-3pm ? roman From - Mon Nov 03 11:08:10 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id KAA23951 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:39:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from poseiden.npac.syr.edu (poseiden.npac.syr.edu [128.230.21.132]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA23946 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:39:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by poseiden.npac.syr.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BCE844.907A8520@poseiden.npac.syr.edu>; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:38:03 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-ID: <01BCE844.907A8520@poseiden.npac.syr.edu> From: Neil Jasper To: "'fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu'" Subject: Windows NT 4.0 Server SHUTDOWN Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:38:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Neil Jasper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 ATTENTION: The Windows NT server "Heracles" will be shutdown on Wednesday, November = 5, 1997 from 8:00 a.m. until approximately 12:00 noon. Purpose of = shutdown is to enhance the system capabilities for true multi user = interaction. I anticipate that the Print server "Ventana" will not be affected, = however if you are not able to print through the NT Server, please be = patient. Your attention and cooperation in this matter is appreciated. Neil Jasper Data Systems Administrator Syracuse University-NPAC 111 College Place Room 3-217 Syracuse, New York 13244 Phone (315) 443-4557 FAX (315) 443-1973 --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Mon Nov 03 15:14:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA27312 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:01:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA27275; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:00:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA16984; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:58:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199711031858.NAA16984@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, gra@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, project-leaders@wingnut.npac.syr.edu cc: marek@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, njm@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, trscavo@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, roman@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, gcf@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] Teaching Tools Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 13:58:40 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, This Thursday, November 6th is the seventh annual Teaching Tools conference for educators at SU. NPAC will be hosting a booth in the Schine Student Center exhibit area all day on Thursday. We need volunteers to be available at the booth to answer Tango-related questions and provide support. If you can work at the booth on Thursday, please let me know what times are best for you. Even a one-hour block of time would be greatly appreciated. See http://www-fcms.syr.edu/ttools.html for details. Thanks, Tom Scavo From - Mon Nov 03 15:14:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA27438 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:05:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from nemesis.npac.syr.edu (nemesis.npac.syr.edu [128.230.21.151]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA27432; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:05:34 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971103140841.00bc80cc@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> X-Sender: heather@postoffice.npac.syr.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:08:42 -0500 To: "Tom Scavo" , tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, gra@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, project-leaders@wingnut.npac.syr.edu From: Heather Tetro Subject: [tango] Re: Teaching Tools Cc: marek@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, njm@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, trscavo@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, roman@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, gcf@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Tom - Please give me a paragraph of this event for InfoMall Thanks At 01:58 PM 11/3/97 -0500, Tom Scavo wrote: >Hi, > >This Thursday, November 6th is the seventh annual Teaching Tools >conference for educators at SU. NPAC will be hosting a booth in >the Schine Student Center exhibit area all day on Thursday. We >need volunteers to be available at the booth to answer >Tango-related questions and provide support. > >If you can work at the booth on Thursday, please let me know what >times are best for you. Even a one-hour block of time would be >greatly appreciated. > >See http://www-fcms.syr.edu/ttools.html for details. > >Thanks, >Tom Scavo > > Heather Tetro Administrative Director NPAC @ Syracuse University (315) 443-4740 - phone (315) 443-1973 - fax From - Mon Nov 03 15:14:14 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA28118; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:40:34 -0500 (EST) Sender: roman Message-ID: <345E2B6F.3F54@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:52:15 -0500 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake CC: roman Subject: statistics Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 1)Current Statistics package seems to have glitches a)by subject now has November 1 which is a trivial partial day Clearly should have been previous month! i.e this morning's run was for October 31 and month of October not November 1 b)by week makes last 7 days oct 26 - Nov 1 which is wrong as Nov 1 only partial day all weeks should be displaced back one day c)By month should include October but doesnt From - Mon Nov 03 19:28:12 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA00137; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:47:03 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <345E46CE.D90C7FA0@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:49:03 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: roman@npac.syr.edu CC: jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: create file on clyde Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 I need a subdirectory "pict" on "/usr/local/archives/public/html/stats/". That is "/usr/local/archives/public/html/stats/pict/*.gif". Below picture files should be created. dot_clear.gif logo.jpg statisticsbar.gif npac.gif title.jpg archivebar.gif subjectbar.gif domainbar.gif hourbar.gif I will send you additional picture file list later, if necessary. Thanks, Jungkee (Jake) Kim From - Mon Nov 03 19:28:12 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA00709; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:25:18 -0500 (EST) Sender: roman Message-ID: <345E520C.31DF@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 17:37:00 -0500 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jake Kim CC: roman Subject: Re: create file on clyde References: <345E46CE.D90C7FA0@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 I created /usr/local/archives/public/html/stats/pict with write permission for you: drwxrwxr-x 2 httpadm g_jake 512 Nov 3 17:21 pict/ You should be able to create all *gif files by yourself Please let me know if any problems roman Jake Kim wrote: > > I need a subdirectory "pict" on > "/usr/local/archives/public/html/stats/". > That is "/usr/local/archives/public/html/stats/pict/*.gif". > Below picture files should be created. > > dot_clear.gif > logo.jpg > statisticsbar.gif > npac.gif > title.jpg > archivebar.gif > subjectbar.gif > domainbar.gif > hourbar.gif > > I will send you additional picture file list later, if necessary. > > Thanks, > > Jungkee (Jake) Kim -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Mon Nov 03 19:28:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id RAA01125 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:51:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA01120; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:51:42 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-ID: <345E583C.52BF@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 18:03:24 -0500 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fyi-onsite, roman Subject: Reminder: the Systems support References: <3454BF33.FF6@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Roman Markowski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 To all NPAC network users: Systems team will hold a session-seminar on how to use computational resources in NPAC. The seminar is for all of you who could not attend the first session last week. Please remember to sign attendance list! Thanks in advance roman > > Date: November, 4th (Tuesday) > Time: 10 am > Place: 3-216 NPAC > Duration: 1 hour > Speaker: Todd Olson > > Every Researcher, staff member or student that ever needs to use the > NPAC facilities should plan to attend this session. We have gone > through a number of changes over the last months and there are some > changes that MUST be understood if you want to continue to use these > resources. You will hear about > Policies (accounts, disk space, domains, web servers) > Planned changes (future of IBM and Digital equipment) > Network configuration > Security issues > Available services > Communication with systems team > > A signing sheet will be utilized during the session > > It is to your benefit and the cost effectiveness of NPAC to get a brief > understanding of our facilities. You will also get some information as > to where we are moving with regard to our computational resources. > > Thank you in advance for your cooperation. I'm sure your time in > attendance will be well spent. > regards > roman > --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Tue Nov 04 16:17:16 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA17329; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:15:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <345F90D4.77AA28F0@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 16:17:09 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gcf@npac.syr.edu CC: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Statistics Improvement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Dear Dr. Fox: I met Roman yesterday and heard that you want to see the improved statistics web page immdediately. Additionally, I read the urgent revise requrement. The first day of month problem was predicted and I tried to finish all of your demands but have not finished yet. However, I solved many things on the statistics and I would like to send you a brief report. YOU SENT ROMAN BELOW MESSAGE: >1)Current Statistics package seems to have glitches >a)by subject now has November 1 which is a trivial partial day > Clearly should have been previous month! > i.e this morning's run was for October 31 and month of October > not November 1 >b)by week makes last 7 days oct 26 - Nov 1 which is wrong as Nov 1 > only partial day > all weeks should be displaced back one day >c)By month should include October but doesnt I think all the above problems caused by the way of current shell program data. It uses the compressed log files named with the current day but the contents of data are previous day's. "gwstat" perl program check the time when the program runs. So, the time should be adjusted to previous day. It can be done with subtracting a day from current time. (I fixed it already on 'weekly' and 'daily' request will have correct data from tomorrow.) ABOUT CHANGES in STATISTICS: I acquired the right to access the actual HTML, SHELL and PERL directories yesterday and it would be faster to reflect the revised versions. Though I changed the initial HTML file, it has only previous graphs. However, my revised program will be run on the background on the machine and it will be posted after the confirmation of correct data. > 1)"by archive" should have say 10 pages so that as in web search engines you > get buttons saying 1 2 3 4 .. next previous allowing you to browse the top > 400 not top 40 hits Though some data will have less than 400 archives and many of them would have only a few requests on "Most recent day", this data will be generated from tonight. I will make other web pages for these graph files after the confirmation of correctness. (I will change the order as the request numbers.) > 2)"by subject" should have 2 pages not 1 This is also solved and will be posted after the conviction. > 3)"by subject" should allow Regular expression A satisfied but NOT regular > expression B There is no Regular expression like this. However, there is another solution. Search Regular expression A first and calculate Regualr expression B in A and substract it. I am testing this method. > 4)remove 7 day plot Already done. > 5)add "npac" and syr (not npac) to "domain" plot as separate rows > If you can identify "spiders" as a domian that would be useful (ask roman) In this requirement, there are several time consuming problems. All the current data have no such informations. (wwwstat*.html files) So, this can not be plotted before generationg new data files with new informations. I need more time to solve this. (Nonetheless, I will reflect it on "recent day" soon. In the case of "spiders", this data can be found other place unlike other domain files. I'll try to add this to domain data. (Of course, there is no information on the current files except log files.) Additionally, I found that current programs do not generate the "syr.edu" domain. It caused by "country-codes" which has information about the domain names. In "syr.edu", there are two spaces between "syr.edu" and "Syracuse Univ" but other have three spaces between them. The PERL program use the three spaces as the separator and the "syr.edu" did not reported on the graph file. (It is reflected on current graph.) > 6)For first 4 plots (archive subject hour domain) make available in several time > intervals including at least > Most recent day (saturday today) > Most recent month (october today) > All the months of 1997 (January to September) separately > Last 12 complete months separtely (oct 96 to sept 97) > All of 1996 > All of 1997 I found that there are HTML files which include these time intervals but 'recent day'. I revised the shell programs to generate 'recent day' file. However, the current HTML files have not any revised requirements as shown above. It will take some time to make all the HTML files again after the new demand reflected on the PERL programs. > 7)For first 4 plots (archive subject hour domain) make available in > Most recent month separately for "all" "NPAC only" "syr not NPAC" This spec has no relation to current SHELL and PERL programs. I have to make a new programs for this and making all the new HTML files is required. If you have any question or requirement, please let me know. Jungkee (Jake) Kim From - Wed Nov 05 12:57:34 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id MAA01244 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:40:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from poseiden.npac.syr.edu (poseiden.npac.syr.edu [128.230.21.132]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA01239 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:40:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by poseiden.npac.syr.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BCE9E7.BB265520@poseiden.npac.syr.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:38:34 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-ID: <01BCE9E7.BB265520@poseiden.npac.syr.edu> From: Neil Jasper To: "'fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu'" Subject: Windows NT Administration passwords Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:38:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Neil Jasper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 As of 12:30 p. m. on Wednesday, November 5th, the NPAC, Windows NT Server "Heracles" is now available for use. Neil Jasper Data Systems Administrator Syracuse University-NPAC 111 College Place Room 3-217 Syracuse, New York 13244 Phone (315) 443-4557 FAX (315) 443-1973 --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Wed Nov 05 14:06:00 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id NAA01923 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:10:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA01917; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA19507; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:11:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199711051811.NAA19507@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Margaret M. Hurley" cc: Marek Podgorny , marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny Subject: [tango] Re: Tango and Tangolite In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:56:25 EST." Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:11:37 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 >Hi, > > thanks for the quick reply. The Tangolite (and Java > Console) problem was my own idiocy, sorry for the > waste of bandwidth on that issue. (We are NOT > behind a firewall and tangolite DID start once > I enabled java properly.) i guess we have an async... > > NOW, on to tango. with the javaconsole up, I try to > start tango, get the plugin error message as I told you > before, and the following error message appears in the > java console window: > > # Applet exception: error: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: interfaces/Contr >olAppletBase > java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: interfaces/ControlAppletBase > at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:204) > at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(AppletClassLoader.java:318) > at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass1(AppletClassLoader.java:250) > at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:231) > at netscape.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(AppletClassLoader.java:212) > at netscape.applet.EmbeddedAppletFrame.run(EmbeddedAppletFrame.java:278) > at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:296) yeah, we have seen this one already.... the bad news is, we have seen examples of machines on which this error was incorrectable. however, these few machines were windows NT. we were unable to figure out what is wrong with them. we have dissected the zip files in the cache of their browsers, and the all classes were there. we moved the cached zip files to other machines, and they were loaded properly. so, this is a puzzle. we have never seen this behavior on SGIs, though. the only advice i have is to clean the cache, kill the browser, and try again. the class reported as missing is present in the distribution. another word of caution: tango cannot be reliably restarted from the same browser window. i.e., if you get a succesful or partial load from a window, and then you try to start tango again, this will only work SOMETIMES. tnago uses liveconnect. sometimes netscape is able to figure out pointers to multiple applets and plugins on the page, and sometimes it is not. hence, the recommended procedure is to start new browser window before trying to restart tango. > > > Does this help any? Thanks again. > > Maggie Hurley > > From - Wed Nov 05 16:53:43 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA03805 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:50:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from poseiden.npac.syr.edu (poseiden.npac.syr.edu [128.230.21.132]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA03800 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:50:13 -0500 (EST) Received: by poseiden.npac.syr.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BCE9F9.E9456920@poseiden.npac.syr.edu>; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:48:42 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-ID: <01BCE9F9.E9456920@poseiden.npac.syr.edu> From: Neil Jasper To: "'fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu'" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:48:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Neil Jasper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 The following Windows NT users, must provide their Workstation Local Administrator Passwords to Neil Jasper In 3-217. To maintain individual security: >> Place the local administration password inside a sealed envelope. >> On the outside of the envelope write the DNS system name and IP address as shown below. >> If you change your password, you must repeat these steps and bring it to Neil Jasper for the masterfile. ** This sealed envelope will ONLY be used IF there is an emergency on the NT workstation, requiring the local Administrator and you are unavailable. ** If your envelope is opened, I will tell you so that you may reassign the new password and repeat the above procedure. YOUR COOPERATION IS REQUIRED ! Node Number DNS Name User Password Received 128.230.021.181 Clarabel Wojtek Furmanski NOT 128.230.021.154 Erix Pitor Sokolowski NOT 128.230.021.183 versagcf2 Geoffrey Fox NOT 128.230.021.164 Think3 Roman NOT 128.230.021.131 Fatso NPAC NOT 128.230.021.184 Tapetus Wojtek Furmanski NOT 128.230.021.172 Audix Tomas Stachowiak NOT 128.230.021.133 Hera Deepak NOT 128.230.021.189 Leto Chao-Wei Ou Received 128.230.021.179 Perseus Wojtek Furmanski NOT 128.230.021.170 Czesc Bart NOT 128.230.021.137 Aphrodite Dave Warner NOT 128.230.021.160 Kain Gregor Lewandowski NOT 128.230.021.157 Lem Marek Podgorny NOT 128.230.021.155 Odysseus Dave Warner NOT 128.230.021.171 Harem Tom Major NOT 128.230.021.199 Colorado Konrad Olszewski NOT 128.230.021.200 Connecticut Paul Roman Received Neil Jasper Data Systems Administrator Syracuse University-NPAC 111 College Place Room 3-217 Syracuse, New York 13244 Phone (315) 443-4557 FAX (315) 443-1973 --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Thu Nov 06 14:14:39 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id NAA20413 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:31:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA20406 for ; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:31:38 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-Id: <199711061831.NAA20406@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Subject: Osprey7 reboot Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 13:31:37 -0500 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi To allocate more login ptys to osprey7 so more people can use osprey7 we will reboot osprey7 this afternoon. Time is not yet certain. But when it happens there will be 10min notice and the reboot will only take about 2 min. Regards, Todd Olson --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Thu Nov 06 17:18:06 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id RAA24752 for tango-outgoing; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:04:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA24747; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:04:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA24777; Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:05:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199711062205.RAA24777@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] today's demos Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 17:05:45 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 here is a short summary: it was very, very bad. i'm really glad we have had so many people on the server during the demo. basically, if a was supposed to evaluate tango on the basis of this experience, i would say that the system does not work. presenter crashed 4 times during the day. all these were deep system carshes, with machine dumping entire memory to disk. one reason for such a crash was identified: if you kill BV from tango w/o closing audio tool first, the entire OS goes down. another case was when we tried to change font size in netscape with tango up and running. fiuuuu - no IRIX any more..... netscape itself crashed at least 5 more times. presenter was definitley the most unstable component. basicially, it was unusable. PC were better, but not terribly much so. repaint problems on both 95 and NT. shared browser failed to work most of the time (no communication). webwisdom was practically non-operational (although here some weird server problems were a culprit. talking heads almost never connected (no communication, no faces reload, no background reload, no repaint). ghost session were abundant, or sessions with incoherent state (different user lists in different CA, different users list in CA and in the chat, incoherent CA state (says application exists but cannot execute local close - button non-operational.). all kind of sorry junk of this kind. i don't quite know what to think. have we hit server scalability limits? i'm pretty sure we have discovered that current tango protocol is insufficient. on presenter, after 2 or 3 netscape crashes, BV refused to work, claiming "cannot start plugins". i had to logout and login again to get it work. netscape restart and env massaging did not help. in another case, after netscape crashed, BV video was only connecting to itself. repeated startup did not help. it was necesary to create another tango BV sesion to get the connection right. i tend to think tango is responsible here, not BV. this is a remarkable result of the first day of intense system testing. i hope you understand now that this is necessary. and, i see some people ignored my exucutive order anyway. i suggest that this does not happen. Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Fri Nov 07 11:27:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id JAA05819 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA05810; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:12:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Message-ID: <346324CA.41C6@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 09:25:14 -0500 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tango CC: roman, gcf Subject: [tango] Re: executive order re tango use References: <199711052047.PAA21358@trurl.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Marek In the context of your *executive order* and problems we experienced yesterday I suggest to implement some strict rules: - NPACers must use only 'npac-wide' installation in tango plugin and BV. It is available on all SGIs: Add in .cshrc if ( -f /usr/local/lib/tango/exec/tangorc ) then source /usr/local/lib/tango/exec/tangorc endif setenv TANGO_PLUGIN_CONF $HOME/tango setenv TANGO_APP_CONF $HOME/tango where $HOME/tango contains applications.conf plugin.conf $HOME/tango/plugin.conf points to our server kopernik.npac.syr.edu 9500 8000 $HOME/tango/applications.conf points to current release of BV 37 /usr/local/lib/tango/BuenaVista/CMtango/ NCStango Currently version NCS24 is installed on your request. - Only tested version, widely used can be demonstrated - last minute changes before demo are forbidden - as we want to come up with commercial quality software, we have to implement and follow production rules for software releases: each software release must be documented (readme, changes); each version must be stored in repository (cvs) and available for future references each piece of software should identify itself by its version (the method of checking file size is not acceptable) roman Roman Markowski wrote 30 Oct 1997: During each demo we experience the same problems - incompatibility between various versions and local installations. We have to formalize the process of new version releases. For tango software, there is one npac-wide installation available in /usr/local/lib/tango. It conatins a little bit obsolate but tested and working version for tango_plugin10b3 and BuenaVista (ncs22). It exists both for Irix 5.3 and 6.3 A few people in NPAC use this version in the following way: in .cshrc if ( -f /usr/local/lib/tango/exec/tangorc ) then source /usr/local/lib/tango/exec/tangorc endif setenv TANGO_PLUGIN_CONF $HOME/tango setenv TANGO_APP_CONF $HOME/tango where $HOME/tango/applications.conf contains 37 /usr/local/lib/tango/BuenaVista/CMtango/ NCStango I suggest: during demonstrations we have to show only tested versions. The newest achievements, even great can devastate a demo and nerves of demonstrators I propose the following scheme for public releases and npac-wide installations. 1. Each version must be clearly marked by a version number X.Y X - major changes Y - small changes and fixes in the file name of the distribution package and in the software itself. After pressing Info/Help or About button I have to be able to check the version I am using. Versions with the same "Y" must be compatible. 2. Each distribution package should come with README file which conatins - one line description of each file (or group of files) - installation procedure - history (existing versions and memo about all changes, fixes and known bugs) 3. The relesae of the new version should follow the following rules: - Tango team prepares new version and distribution package which contains all necessary software components and readme file - The new distribution can be released for testing only on Monday of the first or third week of a month - Evaluation team performs tests which include - installation on a clean machine - upgrade from previous versions - checking functionality in standalone and session mode - interplatform functionality - interraction with previous versions - resources requirements - checking readme and available documentation on Web - Bugs report is generated - If no problems, the new version is installed by Roman/Marek on Monday of the second or 4th week of the month: npac-wide in /user/local/lib/tango, on GCF's laptops on demo computers (presenter, ...) JSU, etc in offical software "download" repository 4. The new version is announced on the Web pages and is available for public download 5. The copies of all versions (including sources) are collected by Marek and backuped on tapes. 6. Any private installations and copies cannot be used during demos The similar rules should be applied to all software used for demonstrations or having any chance to have commercial value roman Marek Podgorny wrote: > > Gentle(we)men, > > we have talked about this in the past, but with very limited success. > now, i resort to an extecutive order: > > every member of my research team is obliged to run tango on his > her workstation at all times when in NPAC. if somebody is not > running tango, he/she is NOT at work. > > i'm not interested if you LIKE running tango at all times or not. > you are requested to do so. i will use tango to run this group > from now on. if you do not run tango, you do not belong to the > group, with all consequences. > > for all group members with machines supporting audio/video > capability: you are also supposed to run BuenaVista at all > times. you do not have to broadcast audio and video, but > you are obliged to have BV up and running, so, if notified > by chat, you can start receiving and sending audio and video. > if your machine is not A/V capable, you are personally > responsible to get and install equipment needed to capture > video and audio. please, notify Roman about missing components. > > the official server for this collaboration is kopernik. > > for people doing tango development: you still have to run > tango. you must do your development work using another > instance of netscape. if you have de-installed netscape > 3.01 already, please, get it back. > > this order is effective tomorrow morning. please, acknowledge > receipt of this message as soon as you get it. > > Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Fri Nov 07 11:27:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id KAA07145 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:38:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA07140; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bernhold@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA05545; Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:37:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711071537.KAA05545@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: bernhold@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Roman Markowski cc: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu, roman@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu, gcf@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] Re: executive order re tango use In-reply-to: <346324CA.41C6@npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 10:37:58 -0500 From: "David E. Bernholdt" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 I think it is a very good idea to have a stable "production" release and an active "development" release. Does this need to happen for both the server as well as the clients (i.e. a separate "development" server running somewhere other than kopernik)? > 1. Each version must be clearly marked by a version number X.Y > X - major changes > Y - small changes and fixes > > Versions with the same "Y" must be compatible. I would suggest that all versions with the same "X" should be compatible -- it is easier to tell a user (in documentation or in support email) that 3.x is not compatible with 2.x than to explain that 2.4 is not compatible with 2.3, but 2.3 is compatible with 2.2. Alternatively, maybe you should consider x.y.z version labeling. You might also want to give some thought to exactly what you want to track with version labels -- a single version label for server+clients+BV? Separate? Protocols? And how many of these do you want to expose to a user who might wonder if server 3.1 works with tango clients 3.3 and BV 3.7, or if something needs to be upgraded? My personal opinion from working on NWChem (large parallel comp. chem. code) is the following (not all implemented, mind you): 1) version numbers of protocols and external/persistent data structures are useful to developers. And it is nice if the implementation can at least nicely report "incompatible versions: expected protocol 2.4, got 1.1" (i.e. true backward compatability may not be necessary, but at least fail gracefully & informatively when there is an incompatability. 2) from the user point of view, fewer version labels to keep track of is better, but "internal" version numbers on individual components can also be useful. This is of course complicated by interdependencies between components, but in NWChem we DON'T do this so our only reference point is changes made to a component on a given date -- assuming you can remember accurately! 3) There is a balance between the frequency of releases and the amount of quality control testing that should (must) be done. I think NWChem releases too rarely at this state, but perhaps the schedule suggested by Roman for Tango is too frequent? Will releases be adequately tested in just two weeks? From - Mon Nov 10 15:30:18 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA19060 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:00:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA19045; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:00:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA06812; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:57:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199711101957.OAA06812@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, cpsedu@wingnut.npac.syr.edu cc: gra@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] Teaching Tools 97 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:57:58 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, I'd like to thank the following graduate students for helping out at the Teaching Tools conference last Thursday: Konrad Olszewski Deepak Ramanathan Meryem Ispirli Tomasz Jurga Jen Lee I hope I didn't forget anybody. If I did, please let me know. Thanks again, Tom Scavo From - Mon Nov 10 15:30:19 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA19309 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:13:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from poseiden.npac.syr.edu (poseiden.npac.syr.edu [128.230.21.132]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA19304 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:13:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by poseiden.npac.syr.edu with Microsoft Mail id <01BCEDEA.FB935C00@poseiden.npac.syr.edu>; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:11:55 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-ID: <01BCEDEA.FB935C00@poseiden.npac.syr.edu> From: Neil Jasper To: "'fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu'" Subject: Scheduled downtime for NT server Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:11:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Neil Jasper Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 On Wednesday, November 12, 1997, the Windows NT server "HERACLES" will = be down between 8:00 a. m. and 12:00 noon. Replacement of a power = supply and installation of networked software is required. Even though = there may be periods when the server shows on the network, do not login = until after 12:00 p. m., for there are reboots that must be done. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Neil Jasper Data Systems Administrator Syracuse University-NPAC 111 College Place Room 3-217 Syracuse, New York 13244 Phone (315) 443-4557 FAX (315) 443-1973 --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Wed Nov 12 09:26:09 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id JAA20206 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:22:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA20199 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:22:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA20654 for ; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:19:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199711121419.JAA20654@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] JSU lecture 11/11/97 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:19:53 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, Thanks to David and Marek, yesterday's lecture went off without a hitch. The server at CEWES functioned perfectly AFAIK and Tango behaved itself very well. (Why didn't it do that at Teaching Tools?!) Not only that, but bandwidth between nodes seems to be very good, and let us hope that that continues! I did notice a few small things about this version of Tango, however: -- If I highlight a running application in the scrollable list of applications in the Tango control panel, press "Remote Open" and then press "Cancel", the dialog is dismissed (as it should) but then the application is no longer hightlighted in the scrollable list. This is different (and confusing) behavior from what it was before. -- What is supposed to happen when I double-click an application in the scrollable list of applications in the Tango control panel? We tried that and nothing happened. Whether or not something happened on the client side, I don't know, of course. -- Suggestion: In the audio window, reduce the two buttons to just one button whose label toggles from "Start" to "Stop" (or vice versa) when pressed. -- There are still too many Tango windows. (I know you're thinking of ways to eliminate unneeded windows, but I wanted to mention this anyway.) -- A window of diagnostic messages kept appearing on our desktop. Even after BV was killed and restarted from the console, these (distracting) messages kept appearing. -- As you know, the SharedBrowser has become an indispensable tool. I only wish it were easier to navigate in the SharedBrowser. The "Back" button doesn't always (in fact, seldom) go back to the previous page, and so we find ourselves fumbling with the history list all too often. -- The SharedBrowser does not display an applet properly on the master. (Fortunately, applets *are* displayed properly on clients.) Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Thu Nov 13 14:13:12 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA02814; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:00:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id WAA17317; Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:01:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199711130301.WAA17317@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Jake Kim cc: roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Statistics Improvement In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 04 Nov 1997 16:17:09 EST." <345F90D4.77AA28F0@npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:01:14 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8013 So thanks for improvements I suggest you change labels as follows: Archive should be called Individual Pages Subject should be called Subdirectory Trees Please add after Access statistics for the NPAC server. Accesses counts shown here do not include graphics files. This gives a smaller, but more useful figure, representing the number of documents requested. The full number of accesses is about 3 times the number of documents requested. I suggest sorting Subdirectory Trees by number of hits like Individual Pages Reply by Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu, Phone 3154432163(3154431723 npac central) Fax:3154434741 From - Thu Nov 13 14:13:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id AAA04660 for tango-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:41:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id AAA04654; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:41:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id AAA02027; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:42:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199711130542.AAA02027@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, mjlee@trurl.npac.syr.edu, zeynep@trurl.npac.syr.edu, yjchang@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] new tango CA Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 00:42:55 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 has been installed. it is available from the usual link http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tango/newCA/Tango.html compared to previous version, new CA implements several new features: - double click on user name brings up extended user panel. from this panel one can ping other users (to check if they are alive) and to hail them - double click on the session name sends focus to the this application window - in the Configuration tag, double click on the application name brings up help panel for this application - click on tango icons plays tango tune - application folders have been re-arranged - new icons have been installed - CA now recognizes PC and Unix applications. it will only show applications running on the platform you are using. Please, note that the newCA adds support for MC application sharing. there are also few new apps, including PointPlus PowerPoint Viewer from net-scene, and few games, SmartDesk, OO whiteboard, and NPAC slide viewer. in the background, BuenaVista has been upgraded NPAC-wide to version 2.3. all these improvements are results of work by Tom J. (CA), Bart (MS shared apps), and Tom S. (BuenaVista). application works has been done by Tom M., Zeynep , Michael Chang, and Jen Lee. thanks, guys! Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Thu Nov 13 14:13:12 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id JAA09609 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:18:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA09604 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:18:07 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-Id: <199711131418.JAA09604@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Subject: Osprey1-4 reserve time Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:18:06 -0500 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi Tuesday Nov 25 from 8:45 - 11:00 osprey 1, 2, 3, 4 will be reserved for benchmarking. All non benchmark processes will be killed starting at 8:45 If this causes a problem for your work, please let us know soonest. Regards, Todd --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Thu Nov 13 15:37:13 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA16333; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:04:39 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <346B5DC2.994EBF8@npac.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:06:26 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoffrey Fox CC: Jake Kim , roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Statistics Improvement References: <199711130301.WAA17317@boss.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 > I suggest you change labels as follows: > Archive should be called Individual Pages > Subject should be called Subdirectory Trees > I've changed them. > Please add after > Access statistics for the NPAC server. Accesses counts shown here do not include graphics files. This gives a > smaller, but more useful figure, > representing the number of documents requested. > The full number of accesses is about 3 times the number of documents requested. > Current access statistics already reflect those concepts. In 'wwsstat' perl file, "$NotArchive" variable includes "\.(gif|GIF|jpg|xbm|map|class)\" which mean some graphic, database, and applete file forms do not count on the statistics. However, some other extensions may have other type of graphic or dabase forms, e.g. 'jpeg', 'bmp', 'dvi', 'mpg', and 'wrl'. I'll add on "$NotArchive" 'jpeg' and 'bmp' first. If you felt the other animation or other type should be removed, please let me know. > I suggest sorting Subdirectory Trees by number of hits like Individual Pages > This will be reflected from tomorrow. > Reply by Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu, > Phone 3154432163(3154431723 npac central) Fax:3154434741 Thanks, Jungkee (Jake) Kim From - Thu Nov 13 15:37:13 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA16374 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:06:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA23226 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:06:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199711132006.PAA23226@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Jake Kim Subject: Re: Statistics Improvement In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:06:26 EST." <346B5DC2.994EBF8@npac.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:06:36 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8013 I want you to add the wors I gave. Figures are fine Important to say displayed hits are 30% of normal "hits" Reply by Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu, Phone 3154432163(3154431723 npac central) Fax:3154434741 From - Thu Nov 13 15:37:13 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA16766 for tango-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:30:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA16761; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:30:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id PAA10055; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:31:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199711132031.PAA10055@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: yjchang@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu, scott@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] Othello game Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:31:32 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Michael, thanks for porting your games to tango. i have one observation: on SGIs running IRIX 6.3, Othello applet does not run very well. when it comes to the point of plotting dots on the board, it causes X server to gran 80% of the CPU time, and it keeps doing so even when the applet was killed. you must kill netscape to get rod of the hog. i have observed a similar behavior of the net-scene power point viewer. i understand this is technically not a bug, but it perhaps would be useful to understand which graphics operation in java causes this behavior. can you take a look at it? thanks, Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Thu Nov 13 16:38:26 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA17977 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:35:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA23645 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:36:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199711132136.QAA23645@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Jake Kim Subject: Re: Statistics Improvement In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:08:59 EST." <346B6C6A.3DB1843F@npac.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 16:36:01 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8019 come to my office Reply by Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu, Phone 3154432163(3154431723 npac central) Fax:3154434741 From - Fri Nov 14 12:52:47 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id AAA24019 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id AAA27108 for jake@presenter.npac.syr.edu; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:54:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:54:11 -0500 (EST) From: daemon@npac.syr.edu Message-Id: <199711140554.AAA27108@nova.npac.syr.edu> To: jake@presenter.npac.syr.edu Subject: printer job Content-Type: text Status: O X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8008 Your printer job (studapp.pdf) could not be printed Messages from output filter: unprintable character (0xe2)! From - Fri Nov 14 12:52:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id HAA27616 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 07:47:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA27611 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 07:47:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA18873 for ; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 07:47:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711141247.HAA18873@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: trscavo@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] SharedBrowser Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 07:47:31 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text Status: O X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, Most of the problems we had yesterday were a result of human error (mine), but there was one thing you should know about. About halfway through the lecture I tried to resize the frames in the SharedBrowser window, and when I did, the SharedBrowser loaded the HTML document from the lower into the upper frame. Thus the control frame was gone and I had two copies of the HTML document! I had to dispose of this instance of the SharedBrowser and start another session (which fortunately is fairly easy to do). Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Fri Nov 14 12:52:48 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id KAA29736 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:47:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA29730; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:47:21 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bartw@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA11800; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:48:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:48:22 -0500 (EST) From: Bartlomiej Winnowicz To: Marek Podgorny cc: Tango User , Roman Markowski Subject: [tango] moving new CA and applets to laptops Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 I'm taking care of moving new version of CA and recent applets to the laptops going for SuperComputing97. There are some Questions I would like to ask Marek, as well as other members of Tango team, if they can answer them. Q1: Why end.html in .../newCA/ directory has hardwired links to trurl (2 of them)? First one points to http://trurl/tango/tango.jpg, while it could point just to tango.jpg in .../newCA/ directory (this JPG sits there anyway). I updated it on NEC laptop but it would be good to update it in our 'mother' CAs. Another trurl link is completly obsolete poining to .../tango/CA/ directory. !!!There is also a link to kopernik in this file (counter of Tango users since March 1997...). When I left CA on Nec laptop, the counter was showing something like 267 Tango users, while the same counter on my PC more than 2000. Is the counter CA-dependent? What kind of bug is it? Can Netscape hang on this page (end.html, because of NPAC links) if we are disconnected from NPAC or DNS? Q2. Which version of Talking Heads should I have on laptops. There are three possibilities: trurl\tango-test\thbis, trurl\tango\applets\th, versagcf\tango\applets\th? Q3. Mapping Toolkit, Tom Major's Whiteboard, 3D chess: Should I move them from trurl or versagcf? 3Dchess can be moved from tango/.../krzysztof/ dir or /tango/applets. My concern is if it can be moved without changing some comfiguration or hardwired information. This question relates to all applets and apps being moved!!! Q4. tango/tangosim applets. Any impact by moving applets on other computers? Q5. SlideViewer, Point Viewer, Membrane, Othello, Smartdesk, Rubic Cube - CA conf file on laptop points now to trurl directories of these applets. Which can be just copied? Basically, NEC versa laptop has CA properly installed with newest applets. In some cases of applets described above I made the decision to download them from local /applets directory (3DChess, Talking Heads). If the newer version can be copied from trurl, it's good. If the older version works fine and very similarly to newer one, I would prefer to put it away. Waiting for answers, we close setup today at 2pm Bartek """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" " Bartek Winnowicz Telephone Number: (315) 443-3554 " " Northeast Parallel Architectures Fax Number: (315) 443-1973 " " Center (NPAC), Syracuse University E-mail: bartw@npac.syr.edu " """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" From - Fri Nov 14 16:15:01 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id NAA01763 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:04:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA01758; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:04:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA12766; Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:05:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199711141805.NAA12766@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, gcf@trurl.npac.syr.edu, roman@postoffice.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] TANGO for Netscape Communicator Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:05:23 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Konrad and Remek report that TANGO for Communicator is operational as of today. there will be a release next week. it should be available for demonstrations during SC'97. Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Mon Nov 17 11:11:54 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id KAA09580 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:56:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA09575; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:56:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bartw@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) id KAA16449; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:57:18 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:57:17 -0500 (EST) From: Bartlomiej Winnowicz To: Piotr Sokolowski , Tomasz Jurga cc: Tango User Subject: [tango] something wrong with versions? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 In file ...\thbis\index.html, I found a link to old \th directory. Could you please correct it and send me an ack? """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" " Bartek Winnowicz Telephone Number: (315) 443-3554 " " Northeast Parallel Architectures Fax Number: (315) 443-1973 " " Center (NPAC), Syracuse University E-mail: bartw@npac.syr.edu " """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" From - Mon Nov 17 17:22:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id LAA10470 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:45:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA10462; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:45:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from roman@localhost) by merkury.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) id LAA07166; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:58:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:58:50 -0500 From: Roman Markowski Message-Id: <199711171658.LAA07166@merkury.npac.syr.edu> To: tango@merkury.npac.syr.edu, bartw@merkury.npac.syr.edu, marek@merkury.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] problems Cc: roman@merkury.npac.syr.edu Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 A few problems with tango. I need immediate comments. Setup: Tango server is running on Compaq with Win NT HTTP server on Versa 6200 with Win95. IP addresses and names (domain changed), I left 'deleware' (misspelled) and 'versagcf2' as aliasses. 1. 3Dchess - chess board appears with only 2 kings (black and white) 2. None of Mehmets applets work after local installation 3. Smartdesk- merkury:3768 is limitted to npac.syr.edu smart dest is unavailable, hidden behind password. (sorry, I meant newton, not merkury). Newton is not opened to the world by design and should stay in this way 4. Netmeeting: how to change to collaborative mode ?? 5. VisibleHuman: cannot move the plate cutting the body (the rest works) 6. VoD: What happened with Cheetah ? It is a pity I do not have any instruction about changes. VoD does not work from Tango. The player starts - but does not play... 7. I added 'pcwebwisdom' to hosts file on trurl. Without this change shared browser does not work. (pcwebwisdom=deleware=Versa6200) 8. Raisedhand started after rebooting NT. 9. Lots problems with BV audio: It only works when started (as master) on Win95 and opened remoteely on NT. If started on NT with 95 joining later on, NT must be rebooted. (Att+Ctl+Del does not work) It happened each time. I have limitted access to computers. I will leave at 12pm (3pm of your time) Exhibit hall will be closeed 12-6pm. Officail opening 7pm of my time roman c ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Mon Nov 17 17:22:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id LAA10709 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:58:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from mpgate.npac.syr.edu (mpgate.npac.syr.edu [128.230.163.130]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA10704; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:58:00 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Message-ID: <347069D0.5CD2@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:59:12 -0500 From: Marek Podgorny Reply-To: marek@npac.syr.edu Organization: NPAC, Syracuse University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aurora Sanchez Garrido CC: tango Subject: [tango] Re: How make the Tango System work ? References: <199711171545.QAA25069@arpa.it.uc3m.es> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Aurora Sanchez Garrido wrote: > > Hello Marek ! > > When I connected to your server, I was delighted with Tango System. > So, I decided trying the demo version in order to show it to my boss. > > I downloaded the server and intalled it on my LINUX computer. > Everything was OK: the java classes were loaded and the server started > lisening for connections on port 9500. I have installed the Win95 > plug-in in order to be able to test your tango system demo version. > > In order to connect to my server, I followed these steps: > > From my browser (Netscape 3.01), I wrote the URL: > > http://lmserv2.it.uc3m.es:9500 > > where lmserv2.it.uc3m.es is the httpd server..., but nothing happend ! > > What I'm doing wrong ?. about everything :-) except that you are probably the 1st person that braved installation of tango server under LINUX - thank you! now, tango server is NOT an HTTP server. with one exception, you dont refer to it explicitely - it just sits in the background and does its job. the only case you refer to tango server is when you configure your plugin. if you installed '95 plugin is standard way, you will have a file C:\Program Files\Natscape\Navigator\Program\plugins\Tango\conf\plugin.conf this file points to the tango server you wish to use. by default, it, points to tango server in npac kopernik.npac.syr.edu 9500 8000 you may want to comment out this line //kopernik.npac.syr.edu 9500 8000 and add the line pointing to your tango server lmserv2.it.uc3m.es 9500 8000 save the file, and restart netscape browser. go to help:about plugins and check if your plugin is correctly installed. tango plugin handles the MIME type hej/hop. it must be listed by netscape. if you got it, go back to npac page and click in the link "Start Tango" what will happen now is that tango system will be downloaded to your browser, setup communicationm with the plugin, then setup communication with your tango server. to have your own independent installation of entire system, so that tango starts from a URL on your own http server, you would have to get entire system from us. this requires a license agreement. you do not need it however to test and demo the system. good luck, and please let me know how did it work for you > > > Thank you, > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Aurora Sanchez Garrido Lda. en Informatica > Area de Ingenieria Telematica E-mail: aurora@it.uc3m.es > Dpto. Ingenieria Tel: +34 1 624 99 59 > Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Fax: +34 1 624 94 30/65 > Butarque 15, E-28911 Leganes URL: http://www.it.uc3m.es/~agarrido > Spain > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~ > > From - Mon Nov 17 17:22:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA14349 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:10:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA14344 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:10:47 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bartw@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) id PAA17167; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:11:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:11:49 -0500 (EST) From: Bartlomiej Winnowicz To: Tango User Subject: Re: [tango] problems In-Reply-To: <34709B22.2684@npac.syr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Why, when I start CA from trurl (newCA), and log to PC tango server (on Versagcf2), console log produces error (CA error: Bad date format)? It happens just after starting CA (after msg to server 11, from server 12 and 7)? Roman gets also 'Bad data format' error in 3Dchess started from local laptop CA. Anybody has a clue? """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" " Bartek Winnowicz Telephone Number: (315) 443-3554 " " Northeast Parallel Architectures Fax Number: (315) 443-1973 " " Center (NPAC), Syracuse University E-mail: bartw@npac.syr.edu " """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" From - Mon Nov 17 17:22:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA14557 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:24:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from avala.npac.syr.edu (avala.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.36]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA14551; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:24:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from toju@localhost) by avala.npac.syr.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.6) id PAA10162; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:23:58 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f From: "Tomasz Jurga" Message-Id: <9711171523.ZM10160@avala.npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:23:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: Bartlomiej Winnowicz "Re: [tango] problems" (Nov 17, 3:11pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: Bartlomiej Winnowicz , Tango User Subject: Re: [tango] problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 On Nov 17, 3:11pm, Bartlomiej Winnowicz wrote: > Subject: Re: [tango] problems > > Why, when I start CA from trurl (newCA), and log to PC tango server (on > Versagcf2), console log produces error (CA error: Bad date format)? > It happens just after starting CA (after msg to server 11, from server 12 > and 7)? > > Roman gets also 'Bad data format' error in 3Dchess started from local > laptop CA. Anybody has a clue? > yep, actually you don't have to worry about it. it is not an error in terms of Java errors (should be Exception, shouldn't it) , it's just an error MESSAGE produced by CA. it means an exception has been caught during processing the date received from versagcf. the date formats on pc and unix are different in Java. yet everythjing should work OK. TJ > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > " Bartek Winnowicz Telephone Number: (315) 443-3554 " > " Northeast Parallel Architectures Fax Number: (315) 443-1973 " > " Center (NPAC), Syracuse University E-mail: bartw@npac.syr.edu " > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > > > >-- End of excerpt from Bartlomiej Winnowicz -- ***************************************************************** * Tomasz Jurga * * * * Graduate Student of * * L.C. Smith College of Computer Science, Syracuse University * * Syracuse, New York, USA * * * * E'mail: toju@npac.syr.edu * * WWW: http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tomj/ * * Daytime phone: (315) 443 1052 * * * * Address in Syracuse: * * 143 Redfield pl * * Syracuse, NY 13210 * * tel. no. (315) 425 59 52 * ***************************************************************** From - Mon Nov 17 17:22:42 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id QAA15147 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:03:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA15142 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:03:37 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-Id: <199711172103.QAA15142@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu From: njasper@npac.syr.edu Subject: Windows NT Administration passwords Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:03:36 -0500 Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: njasper@npac.syr.edu Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 The following Windows NT users, must provide their Workstation Local Administrator Passwords to Neil Jasper In 3-217. To maintain individual security: >> Place the local administration password inside a sealed envelope. >> On the outside of the envelope write the DNS system name and IP address as shown below. >> If you change your password, you must repeat these steps and bring it to Neil Jasper for the masterfile. ** This sealed envelope will ONLY be used IF there is an emergency on the NT workstation, requiring the local Administrator and you are unavailable. ** If your envelope is opened, I will tell you so that you may reassign the new password and repeat the above procedure. YOUR COOPERATION IS REQUIRED ! Node Number DNS Name User Password Received 128.230.021.181 Clarabel Wojtek Furmanski Received 128.230.021.154 Erix Pitor Sokolowski NOT 128.230.021.183 versagcf2 Geoffrey Fox Received 128.230.021.164 Think2 Marek Podgorny NOT 128.230.021.131 Fatso NPAC Received 128.230.021.184 Tapetus Wojtek Furmanski Received 128.230.021.172 Audix Tomas Stachowiak NOT 128.230.021.133 Hera Deepak NOT 128.230.021.189 Leto Chao-Wei Ou Received 128.230.021.179 Perseus Wojtek Furmanski Received 128.230.021.170 Czesc Bart NOT 128.230.021.160 Kain Gregor Lewandowski Received 128.230.021.157 Lem Marek Podgorny NOT 128.230.021.171 Harem Tom Major Received 128.230.021.199 Colorado Konrad Olszewski NOT 128.230.021.200 Connecticut Paul Roman Received Neil Jasper Data Systems Administrator Syracuse University-NPAC 111 College Place, Room 3-217 Syracuse, New York 13244 Phone: (315) 443-4557 Fax: (315) 443-1973 --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Mon Nov 17 18:55:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id RAA17095 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:56:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA17089; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:56:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id RAA17576; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:57:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199711172257.RAA17576@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] TH Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:57:13 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 i wonder if something changed today in TalkingHeads? it still works on PCs, but on my SGI it kills netscape every time i try to load it, 10 on 10! Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Tue Nov 18 21:19:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id SAA04455 for tango-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:33:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA04443 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:33:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA05677 for ; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:33:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711182333.SAA05677@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: trscavo@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] JSU lecture, 11/18/97 Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:33:38 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, Except for some choppy audio early on, the JSU lecture went well today. Here are a few comments/observations: -- Too many windows, too many windows, too many windows ... what more can I say? :-) -- The SharedBrowser is one of my main tools, but it's still difficult to navigate in the SharedBrowser control frame. To keep things simple, navigation in the SharedBrowser should be just like navigation in Navigator. I'm afraid I'll never get used to the SharedBrowser's history list (and Back button)! -- Double-clicking a tool name in the Tango control panel works well except for those tools with multiple layers of windows, for example, WebWisdom and RaiseHand. Try it...double-clicking one of these tool names brings up the wrong window! -- Double-clicking the tool name of a minimized tool window does not work. The tool's icon should be expanded in this case. -- A modified double-click (say, shift-double-click) on a tool name in the Tango control panel should bring the corresponding window to the front on ALL workstations. -- The scrollbars in the Tango control panel are buggy. When using the scrollbars, sometimes the contents of the scrollable list disappears! Moreover, clicking a scroll arrow in the control panel gives focus to the exit button! Similarly, clicking a scroll arrow in the chat window gives focus to the textfield. Wierd! Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Tue Nov 18 21:19:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id TAA04890 for tango-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:14:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from mpgate (mpgate.npac.syr.edu [128.230.163.130]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA04885; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:14:24 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Message-ID: <3472219C.50A4@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:15:40 -0500 From: Marek Podgorny Reply-To: marek@npac.syr.edu Organization: NPAC, Syracuse University X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Scavo CC: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] JSU lecture, 11/18/97 References: <199711182333.SAA05677@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Tom Scavo wrote: > > Hi, > > Except for some choppy audio early on, the JSU lecture went well > today. Here are a few comments/observations: i checked the bandwidth - it is not so good any more. i was getting ~50 KBps each way. it should be sufficient for good audio, though. > > -- Too many windows, too many windows, too many windows ... what > more can I say? :-) > > -- The SharedBrowser is one of my main tools, but it's still > difficult to navigate in the SharedBrowser control frame. To > keep things simple, navigation in the SharedBrowser should be > just like navigation in Navigator. I'm afraid I'll never get > used to the SharedBrowser's history list (and Back button)! i will remove the piece of code that takes care about uniqueness of the stored URL. our customer is our master. > > -- Double-clicking a tool name in the Tango control panel works > well except for those tools with multiple layers of windows, for > example, WebWisdom and RaiseHand. Try it...double-clicking one > of these tool names brings up the wrong window! this is very difficult to solve. basically, there should NOT be multiple window tools. > > -- Double-clicking the tool name of a minimized tool window does > not work. The tool's icon should be expanded in this case. yes it does - on PCs! on SGIs, it brings the icon forward.... i do not know how to solve this off hand. a study of window manager details is necessary. > > -- A modified double-click (say, shift-double-click) on a tool > name in the Tango control panel should bring the corresponding > window to the front on ALL workstations. that's certainly a good idea > > -- The scrollbars in the Tango control panel are buggy. When > using the scrollbars, sometimes the contents of the scrollable > list disappears! Moreover, clicking a scroll arrow in the > control panel gives focus to the exit button! Similarly, > clicking a scroll arrow in the chat window gives focus to the > textfield. Wierd! we know. for this reason, we decided to move away from symantec developer toolkit. all these scrollbars are COMMERCIAL symantec widgets. and they ar buggy all right, more than you think. > > Cheers, > Tom Scavo From - Tue Nov 18 21:19:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id TAA05050 for tango-outgoing; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:29:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA05045; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA19608; Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:30:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199711190030.TAA19608@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] raise Hand Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:30:41 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 applet needs one modification: there should not be two windows in the master mode. the other window is just garbage. i would also remove the "lost" button. one signal is enough. ideally, raise hand should be integrated with CA Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Wed Nov 19 14:25:04 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id IAA12511 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:56:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA12506; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:56:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA01669; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:54:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199711191354.IAA01669@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: marek@postoffice.npac.syr.edu cc: tango@tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] JSU lecture, 11/18/97 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Nov 1997 18:15:40 EST." <3472219C.50A4@npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 08:54:19 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 >> -- Double-clicking a tool name in the Tango control panel works >> well except for those tools with multiple layers of windows, for >> example, WebWisdom and RaiseHand. Try it...double-clicking one >> of these tool names brings up the wrong window! > >this is very difficult to solve. basically, there should NOT be >multiple window tools. I definitely agree with that! Cheers, Tom From - Wed Nov 19 14:25:05 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA13163; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:45:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA23876; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:46:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199711191446.JAA23876@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Stats failed Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 09:46:42 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8003 I note stats did not correctly run today Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Wed Nov 19 15:24:58 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA17409 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:32:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA17403; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:32:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA21075; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:33:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199711191933.OAA21075@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Tomasz Jurga" Cc: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny Subject: [tango] Re: new applet for tango In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:29:12 EST." <9711191229.ZM12264@avala.npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:33:01 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 looks pretty useful to me. few suggestions: - fields should be different width, with more space for comment - absent should be upper case - ABSENT and PRESENT should be green and red, respectively - changing state of the "is" field should automatically clear comment field - entries should be sorted by user name >i implemented a new applet: Yellow Sticker. The purpose of it >is to deliver information about the presence of npac people. >it consists of a simple table, two buttons: absent, present and >a text field where you can write things like: out for lunch, back at 2:00. > >So graphically it is very simple but contains some functionality >previous applets didn't have, namely the current master of the >Sticker sessions sends update information to a new participant, >i.e. information about the initial state. I'd like to ask you to >test it as much as possible, because this sending of update info >may cause some synchronization problems, etc. I tested it for 4 >participants and it worked. > >it is available for testing in ncatest. I put it into NPAC local >folder 'cause it's supposed to be a sticker for NPAC team. > >No longer will you have to go to sb's office and look for a sheet >of paper saying: back at 4. Just start tango, connect to sticker >session and look for information about a person you need. Then >click on "absent" and go to Cosmo. > >Tomek Jurga > > >-- > ***************************************************************** > * Tomasz Jurga * > * * > * Graduate Student of * > * L.C. Smith College of Computer Science, Syracuse University * > * Syracuse, New York, USA * > * * > * E'mail: toju@npac.syr.edu * > * WWW: http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tomj/ * > * Daytime phone: (315) 443 1052 * > * * > * Address in Syracuse: * > * 143 Redfield pl * > * Syracuse, NY 13210 * > * tel. no. (315) 425 59 52 * > ***************************************************************** > Reply by Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Wed Nov 19 15:24:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA17697 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from avala.npac.syr.edu (avala.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.36]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA17692; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:52:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from toju@localhost) by avala.npac.syr.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.6) id OAA12411; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:52:01 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f From: "Tomasz Jurga" Message-Id: <9711191451.ZM12409@avala.npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:51:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: Marek Podgorny "Re: new applet for tango" (Nov 19, 2:33pm) References: <199711191933.OAA21075@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: Marek Podgorny Subject: [tango] Re: new applet for tango Cc: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 On Nov 19, 2:33pm, Marek Podgorny wrote: > Subject: Re: new applet for tango > > looks pretty useful to me. few suggestions: > > - fields should be different width, with more space for comment tough, SYmantec MultiList is said to be able to adjust the column sizes, but this doesn't work... > - absent should be upper case > - ABSENT and PRESENT should be green and red, respectively ok, that's what i wanted too, but it is impossible in MultiList component to set the Font color in one cell to Red and in another to Green. The color applies to the whole component. And that's why PRESENT is upper case and absent is lower case - to differentiate between them. > - changing state of the "is" field should automatically clear > comment field > - entries should be sorted by user name will do that. > > >i implemented a new applet: Yellow Sticker. The purpose of it > >is to deliver information about the presence of npac people. > >it consists of a simple table, two buttons: absent, present and > >a text field where you can write things like: out for lunch, back at 2:00. > > > >So graphically it is very simple but contains some functionality > >previous applets didn't have, namely the current master of the > >Sticker sessions sends update information to a new participant, > >i.e. information about the initial state. I'd like to ask you to > >test it as much as possible, because this sending of update info > >may cause some synchronization problems, etc. I tested it for 4 > >participants and it worked. > > > >it is available for testing in ncatest. I put it into NPAC local > >folder 'cause it's supposed to be a sticker for NPAC team. > > > >No longer will you have to go to sb's office and look for a sheet > >of paper saying: back at 4. Just start tango, connect to sticker > >session and look for information about a person you need. Then > >click on "absent" and go to Cosmo. > > > >Tomek Jurga > > > > > >-- > > ***************************************************************** > > * Tomasz Jurga * > > * * > > * Graduate Student of * > > * L.C. Smith College of Computer Science, Syracuse University * > > * Syracuse, New York, USA * > > * * > > * E'mail: toju@npac.syr.edu * > > * WWW: http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tomj/ * > > * Daytime phone: (315) 443 1052 * > > * * > > * Address in Syracuse: * > > * 143 Redfield pl * > > * Syracuse, NY 13210 * > > * tel. no. (315) 425 59 52 * > > ***************************************************************** > > > > > Reply by Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu >-- End of excerpt from Marek Podgorny -- ***************************************************************** * Tomasz Jurga * * * * Graduate Student of * * L.C. Smith College of Computer Science, Syracuse University * * Syracuse, New York, USA * * * * E'mail: toju@npac.syr.edu * * WWW: http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tomj/ * * Daytime phone: (315) 443 1052 * * * * Address in Syracuse: * * 143 Redfield pl * * Syracuse, NY 13210 * * tel. no. (315) 425 59 52 * ***************************************************************** From - Wed Nov 19 15:24:59 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA17861 for tango-outgoing; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:05:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA17855; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:05:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bernhold@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA06595; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:05:23 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711192005.PAA06595@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: bernhold@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Tomasz Jurga" cc: Marek Podgorny , tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] Re: new applet for tango In-reply-to: Message from "Tomasz Jurga" of "Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:51:58 EST." <9711191451.ZM12409@avala.npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:05:22 -0500 From: "David E. Bernholdt" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Although I can't think of it off the top of my head, I suspect there's a better name for this than "yellow sticker". Borrow an office supply catalog (from Nora or Neil?) and look for the physical version of such an in-out board. "yellow sticker" makes me think of a geneal post-it note, not something so specific as you have created. I think this is a case where the "wrong" name may cause people to overlook a useful function. -- David E. Bernholdt | Email: bernhold@npac.syr.edu Northeast Parallel Architectures Center | Phone: +1 315 443 3857 111 College Place, Syracuse University | Fax: +1 315 443 1973 Syracuse, NY 13244-4100 | URL: http://www.npac.syr.edu From - Wed Nov 19 16:03:20 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA18491; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:01:02 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34735403.B52E2BF9@npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:03:00 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gcf@npac.syr.edu CC: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Stats failed References: <199711191446.JAA23876@boss.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Dear Dr. Fox: I can nothing to do in "nova" system today. It might be caused by the full of '/tmp' subdirectory or the adjustment of 'quota' on "nova" system. What you saw is the yesterday's result. Actually, I did not change on statistics files yesterday. I'll ask to 'system' administrators by e-mail. ("Clyde" running files were generated properly.) Geoffrey Fox wrote: > I note stats did not correctly run today > > Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu > Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science > Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Wed Nov 19 23:22:26 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id XAA23241; Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:20:18 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3473BAF7.97CA1F4C@npac.syr.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 23:22:15 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gcf@npac.syr.edu CC: roman@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Statistics Error Fixing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Dear Dr. Fox: What I predicted is right. I requested one of who use "/tmp" subdirectory to remove his files and I confirmed a test program running. The statistics will be run properly from tomorrow. However, I suggest "/tmp" subdirectory be cleared. Jungkee (Jake) Kim From - Thu Nov 20 14:23:45 1997 Received: from gromit.npac.syr.edu (gromit.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.50]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id GAA27025; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 06:54:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kbecker@localhost) by gromit.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id GAA23586; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 06:54:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199711201154.GAA23586@gromit.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: gromit.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Jake Kim cc: systems@postoffice.npac.syr.edu, kbecker@gromit.npac.syr.edu, tapulika@gromit.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: "nova" may not be normal condition In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Nov 1997 16:13:21 EST." <34735670.B8EDB1B5@npac.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 06:54:47 -0500 From: Kathy Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Hi Jake, I have removed the core file as you requested. The problem with /tmp being full is a direct result of Tom Pulikal putting the following file in /tmp and leaving it there: -rw-r--r-- 1 tapulika 3129344 Nov 18 14:30 webflow0.0.5.tar.gz Tom, please don't put something like this in /tmp. You should be using /scratch. Because you used up much of /tmp on nova, the webserver stats failed to run. This can make Geoffrey Fox very unhappy. Regards, Kathy > Dear system administrators: > > I can nothing to run perl programs on "nova" system. The error > message is > "/: write failed, file system is full". I think it may be caused by the > insufficient space on > "/tmp" subdirectory. Please fix it as soon as possible. The official > statistics web site running > everyday has been corrupted from today. Please remove "core" file on > "/project/npac_srvtools/bin/stats", too. > Thanks, > > Jungkee (Jake) Kim > From - Thu Nov 20 14:23:45 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id LAA00103 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:28:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA00092 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:28:01 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-Id: <199711201628.LAA00092@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu From: njasper@npac.syr.edu Subject: FW: Steam Shut down Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:27:59 -0500 Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: njasper@npac.syr.edu Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 This will mean there will be NO HEAT until about 8:00 am ---------- From: East Zone Maintenance[SMTP:ezone@phpl.syr.edu] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 1997 5:51 AM Good morning! I've just been notified that the steam will be shut off to the=20 building from 3:30 a.m. until 7:30 a.m. TOMORROW (11/21) for an emergency repair. Thanks- --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Fri Nov 21 10:31:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id HAA13125 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:31:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id HAA13119 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:30:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA19401 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:30:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711211230.HAA19401@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: trscavo@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] JSU lecture, 11/20 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:30:57 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text Status: O X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, Once again the current system (software, network, etc.) worked well for us. Here are a few comments (most of which have been mentioned before, so just consider this a reminder): -- The SharedBrowser still does not display a Java applet in the master window. Applets on participant machines display fine, however. -- The WhiteBoard needs a locking mechanism so a user (presumably the master) can lock out participants. -- Perhaps there should be a Text tool in the WhiteBoard, in the same way there's a Draw tool or a Rectangle tool. Also, there should be a cursor that indicates the text insertion point. Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Fri Nov 21 10:31:53 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id KAA15010 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:14:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from gromit.npac.syr.edu (gromit.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.50]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA15005 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:14:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kbecker@localhost) by gromit.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA02287 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:14:39 -0500 Message-Id: <199711211514.KAA02287@gromit.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: gromit.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: fyi-onsite@gromit.npac.syr.edu Subject: This virus is a HOAX, Look at what McAfee's Web Site has to say! Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:14:39 -0500 From: Kathy Becker Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Kathy Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 "Join The Crew" E-mail Hoax This is NOT an actual virus. Below is a copy of the actual text which was passed around. Take note ! Someone got an e-mail, titled as JOIN THE CREW and it has erased his hard drive. Please do not open up any mail that has this title. This is a new e-mail virus and not a lot of people know about it, just let everyone know, so they won't be a victim. Please e-mail this to everyone you know!!! Remember the title : JOIN THE CREW - Make sure you do not "JOIN THE CREW" that have lost there entire HD Please ignore and delete this message. This is a hoax because viruses are not carried in e-mail messages. Viruses must be transmitted as an attachment to a message. By receiving the message you are not in any danger. Every attachment should always be saved and scanned before executing. Delete any "JOIN THE CREW" e-mail message and DO NOT forward it to anyone. You will only propagate the hoax. Neil Jasper Data Systems Administrator Syracuse University-NPAC 111 College Place, Room 3-217 Syracuse, New York 13244 Phone: (315) 443-4557 Fax: (315) 443-1973 --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Fri Nov 21 14:22:22 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id NAA18260 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:36:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA18255; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:36:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA01495; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:37:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199711211837.NAA01495@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, zeynep@trurl.npac.syr.edu, deepak@trurl.npac.syr.edu, rlbaker@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] PowerPlus viewer Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:37:35 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 as you may have noticed, Zeynep ported Net-Scene powerpoint viewer to tango. it is available form Virtual University folder. i tested it and had a lot of problems with startup. it turns our that most of these peoblems disappear if TANGO's audio is turned off. apparently, the viewer tries to grab the audio device already in loading phase, causing control applet load to fail if audio is not available. so, to use this applet, audio MUST be off in CA. i also tried the applet on SGIs. sadly, on my O2 the applet is unusable. it takes a minute or so to paint each foil, during which time 80% of CPU is taken by the Xserver, bringing the entire machine to a halt. few other applets are causing similar effect, including Michael Chang's Othello game. i will report these findings to Net-Scene. Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Fri Nov 21 17:40:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA19294 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:36:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from sandman.npac.syr.edu (sandman.npac.syr.edu [128.230.162.17]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA19287; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:36:18 -0500 (EST) Received: (from bartw@localhost) by sandman.npac.syr.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id TAA01092; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:34:38 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:34:37 -0500 (EST) From: Bartlomiej Winnowicz To: Marek Podgorny cc: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu, marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu, zeynep@trurl.npac.syr.edu, deepak@trurl.npac.syr.edu, rlbaker@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: [tango] PowerPlus viewer In-Reply-To: <199711211837.NAA01495@trurl.npac.syr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 > i tested it and had a lot of problems with startup. it turns our that > most of these peoblems disappear if TANGO's audio is turned off. > apparently, the viewer tries to grab the audio device already in > loading phase, causing control applet load to fail if audio > is not available. > > so, to use this applet, audio MUST be off in CA. Tomek Jurga has recently made few extensions to CA<->applications protocol. He is going to describe them after he is done with his master thesis. For this applet there is one new message of utmost importance: AUDIO OFF (numeric value 121). If sent to CA, it causes CA to turn CA's audio off. Future CA implementation of this message is going to resend this message to all local applets, to ask them to switch their audio off (e.g chat sounds). This message should be sent to CA from PowerPlus viewer before the applet does anything with audio. Probably there should be AUDIO ON message too (not implemented yet). Bart From - Fri Nov 21 17:40:47 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA19188 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:33:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA19183 for ; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:33:07 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-Id: <199711211933.OAA19183@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Subject: Health insurance Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:33:05 -0500 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Todd Olson Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 >From: Marek Podgorny i think that this message may be of interest to some, and, as it is urgent, i use the channel reserved for urgent technical messages. starting January 1st, health insurance rates for anybody not enrolled in either Blue Point or Orange Point go up be 65-85%. for instance, healthsource premium for a familty of 3+ will go up by >$800/year. human resources extended the deadline for plan changes until wedensday (next week) 5pm. you can get forms and plan comparisons at Bowne Hall 121 noon - 2pm every day. Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Fri Nov 21 20:14:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id SAA22312 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:19:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from avala.npac.syr.edu (avala.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.36]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA22307; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:19:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from toju@localhost) by avala.npac.syr.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.6) id SAA01520; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:19:16 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-tango using -f From: "Tomasz Jurga" Message-Id: <9711211819.ZM1518@avala.npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:19:15 -0500 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.2 10apr95 MediaMail) To: marek@avala.npac.syr.edu, tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] today problem with newCA Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 was caused by an error in the format of the configuration file in newCA/conf. one # was missing and the loop was interpreting the file infinitely. This happened after one applet was added at 14:58 PM today. that's why all the systems hung. It tells me two things: - CA will have to display a text warning in case sth like that (a bad format of conf file) happens. - It would be great to have a small parser which would check the correctness of the format. I will try to address these two things asap. Tom -- ***************************************************************** * Tomasz Jurga * * * * Graduate Student of * * L.C. Smith College of Computer Science, Syracuse University * * Syracuse, New York, USA * * * * E'mail: toju@npac.syr.edu * * WWW: http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tomj/ * * Daytime phone: (315) 443 1052 * * * * Address in Syracuse: * * 143 Redfield pl * * Syracuse, NY 13210 * * tel. no. (315) 425 59 52 * ***************************************************************** From - Fri Nov 21 20:14:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id SAA22492 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:36:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA22487; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:36:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA02165; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:37:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199711212337.SAA02165@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Tomasz Jurga" cc: marek@avala.npac.syr.edu, tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu, marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny Subject: Re: [tango] today problem with newCA In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:19:15 EST." <9711211819.ZM1518@avala.npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:37:33 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 this is my fault. i added yellow sticker to the CA just before the meeting, and had no time to test it! usually, errors in the config file were causing an exception.... >was caused by an error in the format of the configuration file >in newCA/conf. one # was missing and the loop was interpreting the >file infinitely. This happened after one applet was added at 14:58 PM >today. that's why all the systems hung. > >It tells me two things: > >- CA will have to display a text warning in case sth like that (a > bad format of conf file) happens. > >- It would be great to have a small parser which would check the > correctness of the format. > >I will try to address these two things asap. > >Tom > >-- > ***************************************************************** > * Tomasz Jurga * > * * > * Graduate Student of * > * L.C. Smith College of Computer Science, Syracuse University * > * Syracuse, New York, USA * > * * > * E'mail: toju@npac.syr.edu * > * WWW: http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tomj/ * > * Daytime phone: (315) 443 1052 * > * * > * Address in Syracuse: * > * 143 Redfield pl * > * Syracuse, NY 13210 * > * tel. no. (315) 425 59 52 * > ***************************************************************** > Reply by Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Fri Nov 21 20:14:26 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id SAA22545 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:39:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA22540; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:38:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA02178; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:40:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199711212340.SAA02178@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Tom Scavo" cc: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu, marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny Subject: Re: [tango] JSU lecture, 11/20 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Nov 1997 07:30:57 EST." <199711211230.HAA19401@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:40:01 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 >Hi, > >Once again the current system (software, network, etc.) worked >well for us. Here are a few comments (most of which have been >mentioned before, so just consider this a reminder): > >-- The SharedBrowser still does not display a Java applet in the >master window. Applets on participant machines display fine, >however. Tom - could you please send me the URL of one of your demo pages? i may have a moment during to week to find the reason for this abnormal behavior. > >-- The WhiteBoard needs a locking mechanism so a user (presumably >the master) can lock out participants. > >-- Perhaps there should be a Text tool in the WhiteBoard, in the >same way there's a Draw tool or a Rectangle tool. Also, there >should be a cursor that indicates the text insertion point. > >Cheers, >Tom Scavo Reply by Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Fri Nov 21 20:14:27 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id SAA22611 for tango-outgoing; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:43:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA22605; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:43:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA02187; Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:44:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199711212344.SAA02187@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] yellow sticker Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:44:05 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 applet has been added to standard CA FYI, i was responsible for tango not coming up during the metting - i screwed up the config file whenn adding the line for yelow sticker.o my apologies to Tom! Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Sat Nov 22 20:08:44 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id LAA29524 for tango-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:09:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA29519; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:09:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id LAA03262; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:10:26 -0500 Message-Id: <199711221610.LAA03262@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "Tomasz Jurga" cc: marek@avala.npac.syr.edu, tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu, marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny Subject: [tango] Re: today problem with newCA In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:19:15 EST." <9711211819.ZM1518@avala.npac.syr.edu> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:10:25 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 >was caused by an error in the format of the configuration file >in newCA/conf. one # was missing and the loop was interpreting the >file infinitely. This happened after one applet was added at 14:58 PM >today. that's why all the systems hung. > >It tells me two things: > >- CA will have to display a text warning in case sth like that (a > bad format of conf file) happens. > >- It would be great to have a small parser which would check the > correctness of the format. > >I will try to address these two things asap. i implemented a bunch of perl scripts to manipulate config files. a complete web interface will be ready by monday. if you wish, take a look at trurl/tangobin/selectca.pl > >Tom > >-- > ***************************************************************** > * Tomasz Jurga * > * * > * Graduate Student of * > * L.C. Smith College of Computer Science, Syracuse University * > * Syracuse, New York, USA * > * * > * E'mail: toju@npac.syr.edu * > * WWW: http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/tomj/ * > * Daytime phone: (315) 443 1052 * > * * > * Address in Syracuse: * > * 143 Redfield pl * > * Syracuse, NY 13210 * > * tel. no. (315) 425 59 52 * > ***************************************************************** > Reply by Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Sun Nov 23 18:47:31 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA07785; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA04247; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:07:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199711231407.JAA04247@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: roman@boss.npac.syr.edu, jake@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Stats did not run ..... Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 09:07:04 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text Status: RO X-Status: A X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Sun Nov 23 18:47:31 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA08514; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:19:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jake@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA07486; Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:19:31 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nova.npac.syr.edu: jake owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:19:31 -0500 (EST) From: Jungkee Jake Kim To: Geoffrey Fox cc: roman@boss.npac.syr.edu, jake@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Stats did not run ..... In-Reply-To: <199711231407.JAA04247@boss.npac.syr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Dear Dr. Fox: It ran, but delayed. It was finished about 10 o'clock. As the log and html file sizes grew larger and hosts were busy, the finish time goes to late. You can see the result now. From - Mon Nov 24 13:42:24 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id MAA21048 for tango-outgoing; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:49:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA21043; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:49:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA06330; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:50:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199711241750.MAA06330@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny cc: marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] more improv. requests for CA Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:50:24 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 geoffrey had these comments after the SC'95 demos: - the sc'97 network was very frigile. physical disconnections were rampant. he observes that tango does not have any mechanism to notify client about network disconnect. it definitely should have a notification from plugin about lost socket, the same way as telnet ot ftp teel us that the connection has been lost. - if we could identify this condition, it might be possible to try to re-establish it. i realize that current protocol probably cannot handle it, so this is probably a remark for tango2 - tango must be able to make a distinction between client that orderly left, and the client that crashed. in particular, is is not acceptable that if a client that runs few master instances crashes, all instances on other machines die. the CA or the server must be able to differentiate. if a client left w/o saying good bye, the master status of his application MUST be transferred to a randomly chosen user - sometimes tango must be exited when OS starts complaining about low virtual memory. there should be a button in CA that automatically transfers the master status of ALL applications for which exiting used is currently a master to a randomly chosen user. - icon double click handling: double (or multiple) click on an application icon Should NOT start multiple copies of the application. it is unlikely that somebody start 2 instances in 2 seconds. the application button should be de-activated for at least 5 seconds after it was clicked, so we avoid people crashing tango by inadverenbtly starting mutiple instances. Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Mon Nov 24 15:23:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA22369 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:01:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from gromit.npac.syr.edu (gromit.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.50]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA22364 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:01:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kbecker@localhost) by gromit.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA05573 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:01:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199711241901.OAA05573@gromit.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: gromit.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: fyi-onsite@gromit.npac.syr.edu Subject: master thesis defenses Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:01:30 -0500 From: Kathy Becker Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Kathy Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Sender: marek@npac.syr.edu On Monday Dec. 15th we will have five master thesis defense seminars. everybody is invited to the public part of the proceedings. i attach the schedule. ===================================================================== Monday, Dec. 15th, '97 9am: Tomasz Jurga: "Session Management in Web Collaboratory Systems." 10am: Lukasz Beca: "Message routing & state management in collaborative environments." 11am: Pawel Roman: "Architecture and Functionality of 3D Collaborative Environments." 13pm: Tomasz Stachowiak: "Multiplatform Desktop Videoconferencing System for the Internet." 14pm: Grzegorz Lewandowski: "Comparison of architecture and performance of low-bitrate multimedia codecs for Internet applications." ===================================================================== --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Mon Nov 24 15:23:36 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id OAA22956 for fyi-everyone-outgoing; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:20:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA22949 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:20:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-everyone using -f Message-Id: <199711241920.OAA22949@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Subject: osprey1-4 reserved Tuesday Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:20:40 -0500 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-everyone@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: systems Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi >From 0845 - 1100 Tuesday 25th Nov 1997 osprey1-4 will be reserved for benchmarks. All non benchmark processes will be killed at that time. Regards, Todd --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC systems staff to inform NPAC users about system (un)availability or usage policy Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Mon Nov 24 21:25:01 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA00127; Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:21:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <347A3698.6EEDCFF0@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:23:20 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: systems@npac.syr.edu, roman@npac.syr.edu CC: jake@npac.syr.edu, gcf@npac.syr.edu Subject: Request for killing proccesses of Statistics on nova Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 To whom may concerned "httpadm": I request you who read this letter first kill the process running on 'nova'. The processes concerning 'statistics' web pages are still running. I should be finished this morning but still running for some unknown resons. I guess it may be caused by busy nova system. However, it would be useless after midnight and I am afraid it will make a side effect on today's statistics. Due to the heavy loading on nova I reduced some processes in statistics and expect it will finish successful tomorrow morning. The process numbers are "16426(it can be changed, please check), 9424 and 9396". Thanks, Jungkee (Jake) Kim From - Tue Nov 25 11:23:56 1997 Received: from gromit.npac.syr.edu (gromit.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.50]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA06195; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 07:17:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kbecker@localhost) by gromit.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA06502; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 07:17:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199711251217.HAA06502@gromit.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: gromit.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: Jake Kim cc: systems@postoffice.npac.syr.edu, roman@postoffice.npac.syr.edu, gcf@postoffice.npac.syr.edu, kbecker@gromit.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Request for killing proccesses of Statistics on nova In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Nov 1997 21:23:20 EST." <347A3698.6EEDCFF0@npac.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 07:17:05 -0500 From: Kathy Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 The processes you mentioned were no longer running this morning. > To whom may concerned "httpadm": > > I request you who read this letter first kill the process running > on 'nova'. The processes concerning 'statistics' web pages are still > running. I should be finished this morning but still running for some > unknown resons. I guess it may be caused by busy nova system. However, > it would be useless after midnight and I am afraid it will make a > side effect on today's statistics. Due to the heavy loading on nova > I reduced some processes in statistics and expect it will finish > successful tomorrow morning. > The process numbers are "16426(it can be changed, please check), > 9424 and 9396". > > Thanks, > > Jungkee (Jake) Kim > From - Tue Nov 25 11:23:56 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id IAA06811; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:18:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id IAA13936; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:20:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199711251320.IAA13936@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Statistics Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:20:26 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 I note that statistics did not finish monday. In particular "subdirectory tree" files were unchanged from Sunday This may explain nova processes Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Tue Nov 25 11:23:57 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA09101; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:56:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA14372; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:59:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199711251559.KAA14372@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: No stats today Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:59:00 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 see: -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 14996 Nov 23 09:40 montharch9.gif -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1765 Nov 23 09:40 montharch9-chip.gif -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 8466 Nov 23 09:40 monthdom.gif -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1015 Nov 23 09:40 monthdom-chip.gif -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 8243 Nov 23 10:00 monthsel1.gif -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1128 Nov 23 10:00 monthsel1-chip.gif -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 7720 Nov 23 10:00 monthsel2.gif -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1050 Nov 23 10:00 monthsel2-chip.gif -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 30903 Nov 23 10:01 stats.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 8431 Nov 24 10:22 country.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1096 Nov 24 10:23 country-chip.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 13719 Nov 24 10:30 archive.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1298 Nov 24 10:30 archive-chip.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 11534 Nov 24 10:30 daily.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 2433 Nov 24 10:31 daily-chip.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 9790 Nov 24 10:31 hourly.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 2159 Nov 24 10:31 hourly-chip.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 9871 Nov 24 10:32 weekly.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1765 Nov 24 10:32 weekly-chip.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 8706 Nov 24 10:32 monthly.gif -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1853 Nov 24 10:33 monthly-chip.gif -rw-rw-r-- 1 asm g_jake 2653 Nov 24 20:37 index.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm g_jake 15309438 Nov 25 05:35 wwwstats_28.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm nhttpown 13781490 Nov 25 06:38 wwwstats.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm nhttpown 13781553 Nov 25 07:49 month.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm g_jake 8596 Nov 25 07:49 wwwpulsar.html -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1233747 Nov 25 07:52 wwwday.html -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 39 Nov 25 07:52 dayspider.dat Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Tue Nov 25 13:38:46 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA10892; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:34:19 -0500 (EST) Sender: roman Message-ID: <347B0F2A.FF6@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:47:22 -0500 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gcf@npac.syr.edu CC: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: No stats today References: <199711251559.KAA14372@boss.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8013 One of students created his directory with files in /tmp instead of /scratch on nova. I expect that there was not enought disk space in /tmp to run statistics scripts. The /tmp directory has been cleaned and Jake will restart gwstat script. roman Geoffrey Fox wrote: > > see: > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 14996 Nov 23 09:40 montharch9.gif > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1765 Nov 23 09:40 montharch9-chip.gif > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 8466 Nov 23 09:40 monthdom.gif > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1015 Nov 23 09:40 monthdom-chip.gif > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 8243 Nov 23 10:00 monthsel1.gif > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1128 Nov 23 10:00 monthsel1-chip.gif > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 7720 Nov 23 10:00 monthsel2.gif > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1050 Nov 23 10:00 monthsel2-chip.gif > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 30903 Nov 23 10:01 stats.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 8431 Nov 24 10:22 country.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1096 Nov 24 10:23 country-chip.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 13719 Nov 24 10:30 archive.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1298 Nov 24 10:30 archive-chip.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 11534 Nov 24 10:30 daily.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 2433 Nov 24 10:31 daily-chip.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 9790 Nov 24 10:31 hourly.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 2159 Nov 24 10:31 hourly-chip.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 9871 Nov 24 10:32 weekly.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1765 Nov 24 10:32 weekly-chip.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 8706 Nov 24 10:32 monthly.gif > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1853 Nov 24 10:33 monthly-chip.gif > -rw-rw-r-- 1 asm g_jake 2653 Nov 24 20:37 index.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm g_jake 15309438 Nov 25 05:35 wwwstats_28.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm nhttpown 13781490 Nov 25 06:38 wwwstats.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm nhttpown 13781553 Nov 25 07:49 month.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm g_jake 8596 Nov 25 07:49 wwwpulsar.html > -rw-rw-r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 1233747 Nov 25 07:52 wwwday.html > -rw-r--r-- 1 httpadm httpadm 39 Nov 25 07:52 dayspider.dat > > Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu > Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science > Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 -- ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Tue Nov 25 13:38:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id MAA11463 for tango-outgoing; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:48:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA03844; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 13:37:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA20956; Sun, 9 Nov 1997 13:37:11 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711091837.NAA20956@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: trscavo@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: cpsedu@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu, tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] WebCT Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 13:37:11 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, The most interesting talk I attended at Teaching Tools last Thursday was about World Wide Web Course Tools (WebCT) given by Beth Mahoney of the School of Information Studies. WebCT includes a conferencing system, online chat, student progress tracking, group project organization, student self-evaluation, grade maintenance and distribution, access control, navigation tools, auto-marked quizzes, electronic mail, automatic index generation, course calendar, student homepages, course content searches, and more. See the WebCT home page for more information: http://homebrew1.cs.ubc.ca/webct/ IST uses WebCT in a number of courses this term and plans to continue its use next semester. They chose WebCT over its competitors (which are few) because of the chat tool and its comparative low cost. (Cost is $3,000 for an unlimited single-server license.) Except for the conferencing system (similar to USENET news and other BBSs), IST students all over the world have had little difficulty using WebCT. I have a copy of a handout that Beth distributed at her talk if anyone's interested. Cheers, Tom Scavo From - Tue Nov 25 13:38:46 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id MAA11787 for tango-outgoing; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:50:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from wingnut.npac.syr.edu (wingnut.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.71]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA19045; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:00:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (trscavo@localhost) by wingnut.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id OAA06812; Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:57:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199711101957.OAA06812@wingnut.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: wingnut.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@wingnut.npac.syr.edu, cpsedu@wingnut.npac.syr.edu cc: gra@wingnut.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] Teaching Tools 97 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 14:57:58 -0500 From: "Tom Scavo" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Hi, I'd like to thank the following graduate students for helping out at the Teaching Tools conference last Thursday: Konrad Olszewski Deepak Ramanathan Meryem Ispirli Tomasz Jurga Jen Lee I hope I didn't forget anybody. If I did, please let me know. Thanks again, Tom Scavo From - Tue Nov 25 16:42:14 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id PAA15205 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:56:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA15200 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:56:20 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: postoffice.npac.syr.edu: majordom set sender to owner-fyi-onsite using -f Message-Id: <199711252056.PAA15200@postoffice.npac.syr.edu> To: fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Subject: Maintenance on Windows NT Print Server 'Ventana' Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:56:18 -0500 From: Todd Olson Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Todd Olson Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 From: Neil Jasper On Wednesday, November 26, 1997, Ventana will be shutdown from 8:30 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. for upgrades. **THIS WILL EFFECT PRINT SERVICES ON THE NPAC NT NETWORK** Please contact me Immediately, if there is some reason this maintenance should NOT take place tomorrow... Neil Jasper Data Systems Administrator Syracuse University-NPAC 111 College Place, Room 3-217 Syracuse, New York 13244 Phone: (315) 443-4557 Fax: (315) 443-1973 --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Tue Nov 25 16:42:14 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA15488 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:08:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA15754 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:11:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199711252111.QAA15754@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Page http://www.npac.syr.edu/stats/ Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:11:01 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8003 seems funny. It does not have new format with "yesterday" Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Tue Nov 25 16:42:15 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA16032; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:39:56 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <347B4626.F7D1F2EA@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:41:59 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roman Markowski CC: gcf@npac.syr.edu, jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: No stats today References: <199711251559.KAA14372@boss.npac.syr.edu> <347B0F2A.FF6@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Dear Dr. Fox: As Roman mentioned it earlier, no enough disk space on '/tmp' subdirectory must have interfere the normal operation. When I checked 'nova' system this morning (after your mail), 'statistics' perl program was still running. After Roman deleted some files on '/tmp' at 'nova', the disk capacity on '/' is still only 20M byte. At the same time the last perl process which generates monthly 'Subdirectory trees' started 9:41AM and some temporay files showed as 0 byte size meant still in the middle of the process. Anyway, I started perl programs manually and finished about 3:30PM. At 3:28PM, I saw the automatic running perl program also finished. (Because of lack of temporay subdirectory space, only the last one generated.) New generating files were moved to the web pages and you can see today statistics now. Additionally, 'nova' had many zombie processes which could not be killed even by an owner and system manager. That might cause the delayed perl program running. I saw the system administrator had tried to shutdown nova and I expect all the statistics programs run well tomorrow. Jungkee (Jake) Kim Roman Markowski wrote: > One of students created his directory with files in /tmp > instead of /scratch on nova. I expect that there was > not enought disk space in /tmp to run statistics scripts. > The /tmp directory has been cleaned and Jake will restart > gwstat script. > roman > > ********************************************************************** > * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * > * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * > * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * > * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * > * email roman@npac.syr.edu * > ********************************************************************** From - Tue Nov 25 16:49:42 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA16234; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:47:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <347B47EF.636B2B1E@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:49:35 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gcf@npac.syr.edu CC: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Page http://www.npac.syr.edu/stats/ References: <199711252111.QAA15754@boss.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Dear Dr. Fox: I removed a column which is 'Recent 28 days' because recent 28 days similar to this month now and 'statistics' seemed run very late since last Sunday. Actually, 'Recent 28 days' statistics are generated by previous version and it do not reflect your new demands for the statistics. Instead of 'recent 28 days', I will generate previous monthly versions before the new month start. Jungkee (Jake) Kim Geoffrey Fox wrote: > seems funny. It does not have new format with "yesterday" > > Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu > Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science > Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Tue Nov 25 16:59:45 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA16257 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:48:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA15860 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:51:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199711252151.QAA15860@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Jake Kim Subject: Re: Page http://www.npac.syr.edu/stats/ In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:49:35 EST." <347B47EF.636B2B1E@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:51:26 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 THanks! Reply by Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu, Phone 3154432163(3154431723 npac central) Fax:3154434741 From - Tue Nov 25 18:20:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id RAA17157 for tango-outgoing; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:40:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (tarkovsky-164.npac.syr.edu [128.230.164.139]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA17152 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:40:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (bernhold@localhost) by tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA02066 for ; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:40:54 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199711252240.RAA02066@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu: bernhold@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu Subject: [tango] Tango vs Habanero Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:40:53 -0500 From: "David E. Bernholdt" Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 I've just been looking at Habanero because it looks like that's what a collaboration I'm part of will settle on. I just wanted to raise a couple of things as food for thought. These are things which immediately struck me w.r.t. the the flexibility of the two packages and seemed to favor Habanero. 1) Habanero servers are pretty lightweight. Clients & server are packaged together, and anyone can start a server. This makes it quite easy for any two (or more) people with Habanero to start collaborating "instantly" without the need for a centralized server. 2) Habanero has an interface to send (real) email inviting people to a meeting, giving required server details. 3) Habanero can easily connect to any server right from their "CA". Of course with their lightweight server this is more or less mandatory, but to me the agility would be good even if there were a handful of "permanent" servers you wanted to access regularly. I think this scenario is quite likely if Tango is adopted more widely. I can personally easily imagine having to switch among servers at: PNNL, ARL, ASC, CEWES, NPAC I'd be interested to hear your take on these things. -- David E. Bernholdt | Email: bernhold@npac.syr.edu Northeast Parallel Architectures Center | Phone: +1 315 443 3857 111 College Place, Syracuse University | Fax: +1 315 443 1973 Syracuse, NY 13244-4100 | URL: http://www.npac.syr.edu From - Tue Nov 25 18:20:05 1997 Received: from merkury.npac.syr.edu (merkury.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.25]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA17230; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:45:08 -0500 (EST) Sender: roman Message-ID: <347B5805.6201@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:58:13 -0500 From: Roman Markowski X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jake Kim CC: gcf@npac.syr.edu, jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: No stats today References: <199711251559.KAA14372@boss.npac.syr.edu> <347B0F2A.FF6@npac.syr.edu> <347B4626.F7D1F2EA@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 These zombie processes were very strange. They were dying and restarting every few seconds making them unremovable. Nova was rebooted roman Jake Kim wrote: > > Dear Dr. Fox: > > As Roman mentioned it earlier, no enough disk space on '/tmp' > subdirectory must have interfere the normal operation. When I checked > 'nova' system this morning (after your mail), 'statistics' perl > program was still running. After Roman deleted some files on '/tmp' > at 'nova', the disk capacity on '/' is still only 20M byte. At the same > time the last perl process which generates monthly 'Subdirectory trees' > started 9:41AM and some temporay files showed as 0 byte size meant still > in the middle of the process. Anyway, I started perl programs manually > and finished about 3:30PM. At 3:28PM, I saw the automatic running perl > program also finished. (Because of lack of temporay subdirectory space, > only the last one generated.) New generating files were moved to the web > pages and you can see today statistics now. > Additionally, 'nova' had many zombie processes which could not > be killed even by an owner and system manager. That might cause the > delayed perl program running. I saw the system administrator had tried > to shutdown nova and I expect all the statistics programs run well > tomorrow. > > Jungkee (Jake) Kim > > Roman Markowski wrote: > > > One of students created his directory with files in /tmp > > instead of /scratch on nova. I expect that there was > > not enought disk space in /tmp to run statistics scripts. > > The /tmp directory has been cleaned and Jake will restart > > gwstat script. > > roman ********************************************************************** * Roman Markowski, IS Manager * * Northeast Parallel Architectures Center, Syracuse University * * 111 College Place, Syracuse NY 13244-4100 * * tel 315 443 3921 fax 315 443 1973 * * email roman@npac.syr.edu * ********************************************************************** From - Tue Nov 25 18:20:05 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id SAA17648 for tango-outgoing; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:16:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from trurl.npac.syr.edu (trurl.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.26]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA17643; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:16:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (marek@localhost) by trurl.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA09846; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:17:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199711252317.SAA09846@trurl.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: trurl.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: "David E. Bernholdt" cc: tango@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu, marek@trurl.npac.syr.edu From: Marek Podgorny Subject: Re: [tango] Tango vs Habanero In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:40:53 EST." <199711252240.RAA02066@tarkovsky.npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:17:44 -0500 Sender: owner-tango@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 >I've just been looking at Habanero because it looks like that's what >a collaboration I'm part of will settle on. > >I just wanted to raise a couple of things as food for thought. These >are things which immediately struck me w.r.t. the the flexibility of >the two packages and seemed to favor Habanero. > >1) Habanero servers are pretty lightweight. Clients & server are > packaged together, and anyone can start a server. This makes it > quite easy for any two (or more) people with Habanero to start > collaborating "instantly" without the need for a centralized > server. anybody can start tango server as well. you can have one up and running in 5 minutes. and it NEVER dies. >2) Habanero has an interface to send (real) email inviting people to a > meeting, giving required server details. in the making for tango >3) Habanero can easily connect to any server right from their "CA". > Of course with their lightweight server this is more or less > mandatory, but to me the agility would be good even if there were a > handful of "permanent" servers you wanted to access regularly. I > think this scenario is quite likely if Tango is adopted more widely. > I can personally easily imagine having to switch among servers at: > PNNL, ARL, ASC, CEWES, NPAC this is planned for tango2, albeit in a little different fashion, with room as a locality, not a server. > >I'd be interested to hear your take on these things. >-- >David E. Bernholdt | Email: bernhold@npac.syr.edu >Northeast Parallel Architectures Center | Phone: +1 315 443 3857 >111 College Place, Syracuse University | Fax: +1 315 443 1973 >Syracuse, NY 13244-4100 | URL: http://www.npac.syr.edu Reply by Marek Podgorny, (315) 443-4879, http://trurl.npac.syr.edu From - Tue Nov 25 19:13:48 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id TAA18424; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:11:38 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <347B69B3.AB0FE1CB@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:13:40 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: systems@npac.syr.edu CC: roman@npac.syr.edu, gcf@npac.syr.edu, jake@npac.syr.edu Subject: Nova problem Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 Dear system administrator: I would like to report you that I can do nothing in nova. A guy whose ID is "rmahesh" used up all the "/tmp" file and left his position. Please delete his file in "/tmp" and send him a warning mail. I think it may be caused by using "netscape" and "perl". nova% ls -l /tmp total 21856 -rw------- 1 rmahesh 22355968 Nov 25 18:21 nsform347B5D6C00500EB -rw------- 1 rmahesh 0 Nov 25 18:22 nsform347B5D9800600EB nova% df | grep dev /dev/sd0a 30807 27734 0 100% / nova% top last pid: 1454; load averages: 0.44, 0.24, 0.01 19:07:08 59 processes: 58 sleeping, 1 running CPU states: 2.8% user, 0.0% nice, 1.6% system, 95.7% idle Memory: 115M available, 56M in use, 59M free, 4316K locked PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 235 rmahesh 1 0 8280K 4804K sleep 2:18 0.00% 0.00% netscape 234 rmahesh 5 0 676K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% perl From - Tue Nov 25 22:49:46 1997 Received: from rmgate (rmgate.npac.syr.edu [128.230.163.131]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA20441; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:09:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <347AEBD0.3B0A@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:16:32 -0500 From: Roman Markowski Organization: NPAC SU X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jake Kim CC: systems@npac.syr.edu, gcf@npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Nova problem References: <347B69B3.AB0FE1CB@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Mahesh, I removed all nsform* files from nova:/tmp. I also interrupted your perl script which probably produced these files. Please remember, that /tmp directory shouldn't be used for huge temporary files. Nova:/scratch which has today 0.5 GB of free space is better place. Nova:/tmp has only 30 MB, not enought to keep your 22 MB files. Please use nova:/scratch in future thanks roman Jake Kim wrote: > > > nova% ls -l /tmp > total 21856 > > -rw------- 1 rmahesh 22355968 Nov 25 18:21 nsform347B5D6C00500EB > -rw------- 1 rmahesh 0 Nov 25 18:22 nsform347B5D9800600EB > > nova% df | grep dev > /dev/sd0a 30807 27734 0 100% / > > nova% top > last pid: 1454; load averages: 0.44, 0.24, 0.01 > 19:07:08 > 59 processes: 58 sleeping, 1 running > CPU states: 2.8% user, 0.0% nice, 1.6% system, 95.7% idle > Memory: 115M available, 56M in use, 59M free, 4316K locked > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 235 rmahesh 1 0 8280K 4804K sleep 2:18 0.00% 0.00% netscape > 234 rmahesh 5 0 676K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% perl From - Wed Nov 26 11:12:04 1997 Received: from gromit.npac.syr.edu (gromit.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.50]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA25444; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:10:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kbecker@localhost) by gromit.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA07875; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:10:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199711261210.HAA07875@gromit.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: gromit.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: rmahesh@gromit.npac.syr.edu cc: systems@gromit.npac.syr.edu, jake@gromit.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Nova problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:10:20 -0500 From: Kathy Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Mahesh, You were not on the original distribution to receive this message. Jake, When reporting problems like this, it is also best to try and contact the user concerned. Regards, Kathy ------- Forwarded Message Received: from rmgate (rmgate.npac.syr.edu [128.230.163.131]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA20441; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:09:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <347AEBD0.3B0A@npac.syr.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 10:16:32 -0500 From: Roman Markowski Organization: NPAC SU X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jake Kim CC: systems@npac.syr.edu, gcf@npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Nova problem References: <347B69B3.AB0FE1CB@npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 1140 Mahesh, I removed all nsform* files from nova:/tmp. I also interrupted your perl script which probably produced these files. Please remember, that /tmp directory shouldn't be used for huge temporary files. Nova:/scratch which has today 0.5 GB of free space is better place. Nova:/tmp has only 30 MB, not enought to keep your 22 MB files. Please use nova:/scratch in future thanks roman Jake Kim wrote: > > > nova% ls -l /tmp > total 21856 > > -rw------- 1 rmahesh 22355968 Nov 25 18:21 nsform347B5D6C00500EB > -rw------- 1 rmahesh 0 Nov 25 18:22 nsform347B5D9800600EB > > nova% df | grep dev > /dev/sd0a 30807 27734 0 100% / > > nova% top > last pid: 1454; load averages: 0.44, 0.24, 0.01 > 19:07:08 > 59 processes: 58 sleeping, 1 running > CPU states: 2.8% user, 0.0% nice, 1.6% system, 95.7% idle > Memory: 115M available, 56M in use, 59M free, 4316K locked > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > 235 rmahesh 1 0 8280K 4804K sleep 2:18 0.00% 0.00% netscape > 234 rmahesh 5 0 676K 0K sleep 0:00 0.00% 0.00% perl ------- End of Forwarded Message From - Wed Nov 26 11:12:04 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA25760; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:48:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA17371; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:51:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199711261251.HAA17371@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu cc: roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Didnt see Nov 26 statistics ... Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 07:51:02 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text Status: RO X-Status: A X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 /tmp on nova seems empty! BTW why wouldnt you use /scratch for your jobs if more space! Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Wed Nov 26 11:12:04 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id IAA26464; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:50:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jake@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA05850; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:50:43 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nova.npac.syr.edu: jake owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:50:43 -0500 (EST) From: Jungkee Jake Kim To: Geoffrey Fox cc: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Didnt see Nov 26 statistics ... In-Reply-To: <199711261251.HAA17371@boss.npac.syr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Dear Dr. Fox: The statistics perl program is still running and processes on the last module - generating monthly subdirectory trees. However, other graphs are generated about 8:30. Please see the web page. As you remember, the statistics finished at 10 AM last Sunday. From - Wed Nov 26 11:12:05 1997 Received: from nova.npac.syr.edu (nova.npac.syr.edu [128.230.51.195]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA26766; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:12:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jake@localhost) by nova.npac.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA06089; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:12:22 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nova.npac.syr.edu: jake owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:12:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jungkee Jake Kim To: Geoffrey Fox cc: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Didnt see Nov 26 statistics ... In-Reply-To: <199711261251.HAA17371@boss.npac.syr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Now finished. As you suggested before, I can change work directory as '/scratch' subdirectory. However, some modules will still use '/tmp' subdirectory. For example, graph 'convert' execution programs always use '/tmp' directory as a working area. Monday delay was caused when 'convert' module ran. It generates 'magika...' and 'magickb...' temperary files on '/tmp'. It uses several Mega bytes but there was no enough space and one of those files generated incomplete form and it ran again and delayed. I cannot change this case. When I run test perl version, the working directory is not '/tmp' but 'magik...' files are still generated on '/tmp'. On Wed, 26 Nov 1997, Geoffrey Fox wrote: > /tmp on nova seems empty! > BTW why wouldnt you use /scratch for your jobs if more space! > > Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu > Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science > Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 > From - Wed Nov 26 11:12:05 1997 Received: from boss.npac.syr.edu (boss.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.20]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA27273; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:46:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (gcf@localhost) by boss.npac.syr.edu (950413.SGI.8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA17654; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:49:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199711261449.JAA17654@boss.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: boss.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Reply-to: gcf@npac.syr.edu To: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu cc: deepak@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Next Steps Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:49:01 -0500 From: Geoffrey Fox Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 8003 1)I would like to implement "differences" in configuration file eg projects minus tutorials+2D+3D vishuman nac users - gcf 2)Current plots of pages and subdirectory trees are dominated by first 2-4 entries and so one cannot get any information on later entries as squashed at bottom Note pages/diectories on second page are plotted on a scale so can see whats going on as no large numbers. Solutions are 1)Log plots 2)Plots with first few entries opff scale 3)Add numbers to plots Also note plots would be easier to read if had tick marks 3)Should use Illinois resource to resolve 30% unknown domains. Deepak knows how to do 4)I have discussed with deepak various datamining ideas -- please get together and make a joint plan Thanks Geoffrey Fox gcf@npac.syr.edu, http://www.npac.syr.edu Director of NPAC and Professor of Physics and Computer Science Phone 3154432163 (Npac central 3154431723) Fax 3154434741 From - Wed Nov 26 14:01:28 1997 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) id MAA29625 for fyi-onsite-outgoing; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from gromit.npac.syr.edu (gromit.npac.syr.edu [128.230.117.50]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA29620 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:24:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kbecker@localhost) by gromit.npac.syr.edu (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA08863 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:24:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199711261724.MAA08863@gromit.npac.syr.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: gromit.npac.syr.edu: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/11/95 To: fyi-onsite@gromit.npac.syr.edu Subject: ventana is back on line Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:24:22 -0500 From: Kathy Becker Sender: owner-fyi-onsite@npac.syr.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Kathy Becker Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8001 From: Neil Jasper The Print server VENTANA is back on-line Neil Jasper Data Systems Administrator Syracuse University-NPAC 111 College Place, Room 3-217 Syracuse, New York 13244 Phone: (315) 443-4557 Fax: (315) 443-1973 --------------===============--------------- This list is for use by NPAC staff to inform NPAC onsite users (ie located at CST) about local issues Other postings to this list will fail PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR CC: --------------===============--------------- From - Fri Nov 28 11:45:26 1997 Received: from rmgate (rmgate.npac.syr.edu [128.230.163.131]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA24806; Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:06:48 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <347E44F0.150D@npac.syr.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 23:13:37 -0500 From: Roman Markowski Organization: NPAC SU X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake Subject: please review References: <199711271407.JAA28711@clyde-008.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8003 This message is sent by cron. Warnings can be ignored. At the end of this message, chmod compalins anbout "not owner" roman Httpd Administrator wrote: > > [Thu Nov 27 04:00:07 EST 1997] Starting: run.sh > [Thu Nov 27 04:00:07 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: Starting > Normal day 27 Nov 1997 > [Thu Nov 27 04:10:55 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: searched log files > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971031.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971101.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971102.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971103.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971104.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971105.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971106.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971107.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971108.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971109.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971110.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971111.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971112.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971113.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971114.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971115.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971116.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971117.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971118.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971119.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971120.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971121.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971122.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971123.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971124.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971125.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971126.gz > /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971127.gz > 2645842 /e/s/log/tmp/log.25447 > [Thu Nov 27 05:45:28 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: built 28 day log > [Thu Nov 27 07:05:43 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: built this months log > [Thu Nov 27 08:28:12 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: built new months log > [Thu Nov 27 08:28:17 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: built for pulsar > [Thu Nov 27 08:32:15 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: built new yesterday log > [Thu Nov 27 08:32:29 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: Finished > [Thu Nov 27 08:32:36 EST 1997] Starting: gwstat.sh > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than 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older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: 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10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 has older revision than expected 10 > chmod: day.gif: Not owner > [Thu Nov 27 09:07:23 EST 1997] Finished: run.sh > > ************************************************* > Cron: The previous message is the standard output > and standard error of one of your cron commands. From - Sat Nov 29 12:56:51 1997 Received: from rmgate (rmgate.npac.syr.edu [128.230.163.131]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA06645; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:43:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <347FAD06.4E1F@npac.syr.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:49:58 -0500 From: Roman Markowski Organization: NPAC SU X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jake Subject: [Fwd: cron output] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Mozilla-Status: 8003 Received: from clyde-008.npac.syr.edu (clyde-008.npac.syr.edu [128.230.8.5]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA04535 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 07:28:53 -0500 (EST) Received: (from httpadm@localhost) by clyde-008.npac.syr.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/8.6.6) id HAA14549 for httpadm; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 07:28:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 07:28:52 -0500 From: Httpd Administrator Message-Id: <199711291228.HAA14549@clyde-008.npac.syr.edu> To: httpadm@clyde-008.npac.syr.edu Subject: cron output Content-Type: text [Sat Nov 29 04:00:07 EST 1997] Starting: run.sh [Sat Nov 29 04:00:07 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: Starting Normal day 29 Nov 1997 [Sat Nov 29 04:10:24 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: searched log files /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971102.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971103.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971104.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971105.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971106.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971107.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971108.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971109.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971110.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971111.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971112.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971113.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971114.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971115.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971116.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971117.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971118.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971119.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971120.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971121.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971122.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971123.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971124.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971125.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971126.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971127.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971128.gz /e/s/log/log_archive/access_log.971129.gz 2805600 /e/s/log/tmp/log.13911 [Sat Nov 29 05:37:01 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: built 28 day log [Sat Nov 29 06:56:21 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: built new months log [Sat Nov 29 06:56:26 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: built for pulsar [Sat Nov 29 06:58:55 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: built new yesterday log UX:cp: ERROR: Illegal option -- f UX:cp: INFO: Usage: cp [-ir] f1 f2 UX:cp: INFO: cp [-ir] f1 ... f2 dir [Sat Nov 29 06:59:03 EST 1997] wwwstat.sh: Finished [Sat Nov 29 06:59:09 EST 1997] Starting: gwstat.sh ld.so: warning: /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 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From - Mon Dec 01 00:30:45 1997 Received: from npac.syr.edu ([128.230.21.197]) by postoffice.npac.syr.edu (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id AAA23854; Mon, 1 Dec 1997 00:28:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <34824B7B.CC44959F@npac.syr.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 00:30:35 -0500 From: Jake Kim X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gcf@npac.syr.edu CC: jake@boss.npac.syr.edu, deepak@boss.npac.syr.edu, roman@boss.npac.syr.edu Subject: Re: Next Steps References: <199711261449.JAA17654@boss.npac.syr.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status: 8011 Dear Dr. Fox: I would like report about current statistics. I found that today's 'this month' graphs showed only last 28 days. That's why the previous 'wwwstat.sh' does not generate proper monthly data after 29th day of a month. However, the monthly archive data are generated from 'wwwstat_month.sh' and it had been generated correctly until the last month's archive html file. Additionally, the previous version only produced the recent 28 day graphs. Sorry for your inconvenice. Anyway, I fixed some shell scripts temporarily for tomorrow's statistics and will fix them as general codes. I discussed resolving domain name and data mining with Deepak. He has good ideas and they seem very useful. However, implementing to our current system may cause some problems. I'll explain it one by one below sentences of your previous letter. Geoffrey Fox wrote: > 1)I would like to implement "differences" in configuration file > eg projects minus tutorials+2D+3D vishuman > nac users - gcf I considered only the single case (ex. users - gcf) but no multiple cases.I need to think about the multiple cases. > 2)Current plots of pages and subdirectory trees are dominated by first 2-4 > entries and so one cannot get any information on later entries as squashed at bottom > Note pages/diectories on second page are plotted on a scale so can see whats > going on as no large numbers. > Solutions are 1)Log plots 2)Plots with first few entries opff scale 3)Add numbers to plots As you saw, I added some codes and 'Subdirectory trees' graphs have alreadyshown with their request number. The first graph page of 'Individual Pages' will have numbers from tomorrow. > Also note plots would be easier to read if had tick marks Not changed yet. > 3)Should use Illinois resource to resolve 30% unknown domains. Deepak knows how to do He suggested good methods referred 'AccessWatch'. Any IP address can be resolvedfrom 'whois' service and can be known the location from some web sites. In NPAC system, it can be resolved from "whois -h rs.internic.net ddd.ddd". For example, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ % whois -h rs.internic.net 202.102.13.243 No match for "202.102.13.243". The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information (Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's). Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information. % whois -h rs.internic.net 202.102.13 Asia Pacific Network Information Center (APNIC2) Tokyo Central Post Office Box 351 Tokyo 100-91 JAPAN Netname: APNIC-CIDR-BLK Netblock: 202.0.0.0 - 203.255.255.0 Maintainer: AP Coordinator: Conrad, David Randolph (DC396) davidc@APNIC.NET +81-3-5500-0480 (FAX) +81-3-5500-0481 Domain System inverse mapping provided by: NS.TELSTRA.NET 203.50.0.137 TECKLA.APNIC.NET 202.12.28.129 NS.KRNIC.NET 202.30.64.21 NS.RIPE.NET 193.0.0.193 MOZART.TECHNET.SG 192.169.33.107 *** please refer to whois.apnic.net for more information *** *** before contacting APNIC *** *** use whois -h whois.apnic.net